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Title: Smarty Jones?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 11:00:52 AM
Triple Crown?

Yes.

Beats Rock Hard Ten by a nose
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Post by: Jester on June 04, 2004, 12:36:43 PM
Bet he does too.

Saw him run at the Arkansas Derby at Oaklawn. Hell of a horse!
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Post by: Saurdaukar on June 04, 2004, 12:44:31 PM
He will lose... you are forgetting a key point here... the horse is from Philadelphia.  We never win anything, didnt you guys see Rocky?
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 12:55:44 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
He will lose... you are forgetting a key point here... the horse is from Philadelphia.  We never win anything, didnt you guys see Rocky?


:mad:
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Post by: rpm on June 04, 2004, 01:10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
He will lose... you are forgetting a key point here... the horse is from Philadelphia.  We never win anything, didnt you guys see Rocky?
I've seen a LOT of Cowboys / Iggles games and you are right.
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Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on June 04, 2004, 01:55:54 PM
he is from philly, he will finish 2nd.
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Post by: Otto on June 04, 2004, 02:19:46 PM
He's going to win but the final odds will be so bad you'd have to be a fool to bet on him.  When that crowd at Belmont if finished shoving money through the windows he'll probablity go off at 2:7
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 02:31:33 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
He will lose... you are forgetting a key point here... the horse is from Philadelphia.  We never win anything, didnt you guys see Rocky?


Quiet, all of yas...:mad:
Yall won your share in the 80's....

I'm a Redsox fan...you guys have no idea...no idea at all...
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Post by: slimm50 on June 04, 2004, 02:33:39 PM
Heh, Red...they don't call us the Houston "Lastros" fer nuttin.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on June 04, 2004, 02:57:52 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
:mad:


Nothing personal, its just the mentality of the city.

Our mythical hero is a boxer that comes from nothing to become something and them loses it all.  Our sports teams finish in the top three for decades at a time - but never win - and the people here still have a chip on their shoulder for the same reasons.

Philadelphia used to be the capital.  Now were not as big or as strong as New York, nor as we as important as DC.  Our only refuge is to pretend that a broken bell is the most important object in the country and to make fun of New Jersey and Delaware on a consistant basis.

Its a mentality that Ive not encountered anywhere else.  Its almost like the people here appreciate a loser - who tries as hard as he can but still doesnt make the grade - more a winner.
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 04, 2004, 03:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Nothing personal, its just the mentality of the city.

Our mythical hero is a boxer that comes from nothing to become something and them loses it all.  Our sports teams finish in the top three for decades at a time - but never win - and the people here still have a chip on their shoulder for the same reasons.

Philadelphia used to be the capital.  Now were not as big or as strong as New York, nor as we as important as DC.  Our only refuge is to pretend that a broken bell is the most important object in the country and to make fun of New Jersey and Delaware on a consistant basis.

Its a mentality that Ive not encountered anywhere else.  Its almost like the people here appreciate a loser - who tries as hard as he can but still doesnt make the grade - more a winner.


Good read, thanks for the insight. I don't know about what life in the city, but I damn sure won't be wearing any Cowboys hats to another game in Philly. I still have knots on my head from 1992. god beer, good fights, just not fond of the gangbang :(
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Post by: Saurdaukar on June 04, 2004, 03:53:48 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I don't know about what life in the city, but I damn sure won't be wearing any Cowboys hats to another game in Philly. I still have knots on my head from 1992. god beer, good fights, just not fond of the gangbang :(


LOL!  You wore a Cowboys hat to an Iggles game?

Sorry our fans werent  more 'hospitable,' it must have been "Duracell night" at the Vet.  :D
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Post by: SKurj on June 05, 2004, 10:59:25 AM
He maybe from Philly but a Canadian will be steering him to victory!!! +)


SKurj
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Post by: AdmRose on June 05, 2004, 11:27:51 AM
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Originally posted by SKurj
He maybe from Philly but a Canadian will be steering him to victory!!! +)


SKurj


Thus summarily explains my mixed emotions on this issue.
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Post by: StabbyTheIcePic on June 05, 2004, 06:47:21 PM
He proved that he truly is from philly.
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Post by: Lizking on June 05, 2004, 06:50:58 PM
He proved that the fix was in.
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Post by: Dnil on June 05, 2004, 07:13:38 PM
I agree liz....30 thirtysomething to 1 odds horse wins....waaaay to much money made on that win.
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Post by: NUTTZ on June 05, 2004, 07:24:11 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Good read, thanks for the insight. I don't know about what life in the city, but I damn sure won't be wearing any Cowboys hats to another game in Philly. I still have knots on my head from 1992. god beer, good fights, just not fond of the gangbang :(


SO that was YOU  I hit with that battery!!!:)

NUTTZ<---Philly boy, but just moved out to the burbs
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Post by: Toad on June 05, 2004, 07:33:47 PM
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The winning time in the nine-horse race was 2:27.5 over a fast track, well off Secretariat's Belmont Stakes record of 2:24 in 1973, the year he won the Triple Crown.


So, is 3.5 seconds dogging it in the Belmont? I don't know.
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Post by: Lizking on June 05, 2004, 07:52:02 PM
As a youth, I was exposed to the ins and outs of horse racing.  It is fixed, count on it.
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Post by: Sixpence on June 05, 2004, 11:36:33 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
So, is 3.5 seconds dogging it in the Belmont? I don't know.


I was listening to a guy on the radio who was interviewing a horse analyst and he said that the first part of the race was run very fast, and that the jockey had said that the horse wanted to run so he let him go. The point being that the horse may have run out of gas at the end. I have no idea myself, I did not see the race.
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 06, 2004, 10:20:31 PM
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
SO that was YOU  I hit with that battery!!!:)

NUTTZ<---Philly boy, but just moved out to the burbs


LOL Saradauker and Nuttz...good times..good times...

I still get chills reviewing the race..I was  wondering at first if he was gonna pulla horizon job (see Secretariat in '73) when he entered first turn, but he looked tight...I saw him (Smarty) fighting the bit all through the back stretch..

I was really rooting for Smarty, but it's great to see an unknown steal a win. Prado played the spoiler before, and won 2 earlier races that day. Just a great race, and I don't know if anyone else noticed, but those two horses completely destroyed the field. I thik they were 12+ lengths ahead of the field..

to both steeds...
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 06, 2004, 10:24:55 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
As a youth, I was exposed to the ins and outs of horse racing.  It is fixed, count on it.


Not this time. A 50 million dollar bid was On the table for breeding rights if Smarty won. The owner said this isint about money, so let's hope we still hear about smarty in a few years, or if there's a rendering truck w/ his name on it somewhere :(
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Post by: Lizking on June 06, 2004, 11:53:36 PM
Owners don't rig races.
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 07, 2004, 09:37:05 AM
So, it comes down to the jockeys? I doubt elliot would have bit the hand that fed him in this case, since they saved his career by giving him a second chance.

I hope you're wrong if you're suggesting Stuart Elliot had something to do with it.
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Post by: Lizking on June 07, 2004, 09:44:08 AM
I don't know any of the people involved in this race, just that it happens, and a 36/1 over a heavily favored horse is a very good opportunity for someone to make a lot of money.
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Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 07, 2004, 10:43:13 AM
He's had bad luck, lost a shoe in Kentucky...didnt run in breeders cup...no one really knew this horse...maybe if he didnt have to be reshod at the derby he could have won there, who knows?

yea it IS a crooked business, I don't disagree with you on that fact...