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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on June 05, 2004, 03:05:24 PM
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"That being said, we share one and the same conviction today, namely that there is no alternative to restoring peace and therefore to restoring security and development in Iraq and that no effort must be spared in achieving this," Chirac said.
So he beleives no effort must be spared, yet refuses to help? Nice! What is he saying? The guy continues to be repulsive.
"I have always said that I have no information that would lead me to believe that there were or were not for that matter weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," Chirac said.
I guess he would have rather continued to "not know" and just trust that Saddam didn't have them. What a man of action Chirac is. what bold leadership he provided in the situation.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040605/D8311V600.html
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I thought America didn't need any help from Europe or the UN?
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
I thought America didn't need any help from Europe or the UN?
That was not the point in case. The point is that Chirac says that no effort must be spared, yet what has he done ?
The point is that Chirac didn't know either way if Iraq had WMD, yet was happy to sit by and let Iraq continue to snub inspections.
The Point is that Chirac is a hypocrite.
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Here's thinking out of the box for you....maybe he thinks his actions will cause Bush to lose the election in Nov thereby creating an opportunity for peace in the middle east?
Bet that makes your head hurt!!
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Here's thinking out of the box for you....maybe he thinks his actions will cause Bush to lose the election in Nov thereby creating an opportunity for peace in the middle east?
Bet that makes your head hurt!!
Maybe if he thinks he can help create peace in the middle east and that no effort should be spared, he could put aside politics and focus on the job at hand?
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well that what I mean - maybe he thinks regime change in America is the best way to achieve lasting peace in Iraq and in the wider M/E.
Anyway it's just conjecture on my part - I just don't think that the
major powers - France, Germany, Russia (Of Europe) are willing to help Bush in any way, do you?
What will be interesting of course is if Kerry wins in Nov whether they'll change their tune.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
well that what I mean - maybe he thinks regime change in America is the best way to achieve lasting peace in Iraq and in the wider M/E.
Anyway it's just conjecture on my part - I just don't think that the
major powers - France, Germany, Russia (Of Europe) are willing to help Bush in any way, do you?
What will be interesting of course is if Kerry wins in Nov whether they'll change their tune.
It's not about helping Bush, its about helping Iraq. They put politics ahead of what is the right thing to do. I bet that concept makes your head spin.
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To most of the world getting rid of Bush is "The right thing to do"
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
To most of the world getting rid of Bush is "The right thing to do"
thats the beauty, the rest of the world has no say so....
does that hurt?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
thats the beauty, the rest of the world has no say so....
does that hurt?
lol....no :D
Bush is managing to mess things up himself so we can just sit back and watch him fail. The really sad thing is that US troops and the Iraqi people has to suffer for Mr Bush's politics.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Here's thinking out of the box for you....maybe he thinks his actions will cause Bush to lose the election in Nov thereby creating an opportunity for peace in the middle east?
Bet that makes your head hurt!!
There has been no peace in the middle east since Balfour, and Lawrence fought along with the Arabs before that. It was strife torn long before George W. Bush.
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"Major powers of Europe"
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Originally posted by Lizking
"Major powers of Europe"
yep the one Bush and the boys are kissing bellybutton now begging for help in Iraq.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
thats the beauty, the rest of the world has no say so....
does that hurt?
nope not at all - all the rest of the world has to do to see Bush get thrown out is not lift a finger to help him - which do you think will happen?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Bush is managing to mess things up himself so we can just sit back and watch him fail.
Just curious.
What are all you naysayers going to do if it all works out just fine?
There will be a transfer of power on June 30. There will be free elections to follow.
What are you going to say if 2-3 years from now Iraq HAS a relatively smooth-running elective government and is making good strides towards becoming one of the most progressive countries in the Middle East?
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I think at best it will be like Lebanon - at worst a Muslim Theocracy, am trying to think of one democratic Middle Eastern - ie Arab Muslim country - maybe Egypt? Can one count Turkey - probably not too secular.
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Maybe.
But what if all you naysayers are wrong?
What tune will you be singing then?
In light of this, I mean:
we can just sit back and watch him fail
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
nope not at all - all the rest of the world has to do to see Bush get thrown out is not lift a finger to help him - which do you think will happen?
So the rest of the world does not care to help Iraq simply because President Bush is in power? What a concept.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
yep the one Bush and the boys are kissing bellybutton now begging for help in Iraq.
You mean the same powers that drafted the "last chance" resolution regarding Iraq? The same powers that we have asked to help all along?
LOL
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I got news for you Schadenfreude....there will never be peace in the Middle East. Those folks over there have been fighting each other forever.
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Originally posted by NUKE
That was not the point in case. The point is that Chirac says that no effort must be spared, yet what has he done ?
The point is that Chirac didn't know either way if Iraq had WMD, yet was happy to sit by and let Iraq continue to snub inspections.
The Point is that Chirac is a hypocrite.
That's not true NUKE.
The rest of the world didn't get involved (except UK) because the war was illegal. If there is a UN mandate then help from the rest of the world will pour in.
We knew they didn't have WMD...there were teams of authorities searching without restriction for a very long time. Dr. Blix reports were consistant about there being no evidence of WMD in Iraq.
What i suspect you are really angry about is that Chirac has more balls, more insight and more intellect in his left butt cheek than the entire Bush* family tree.
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France....?, is that somewhere East of England but before you get to Germany?
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Originally posted by Toad
Just curious.
What are all you naysayers going to do if it all works out just fine?
There will be a transfer of power on June 30. There will be free elections to follow.
What are you going to say if 2-3 years from now Iraq HAS a relatively smooth-running elective government and is making good strides towards becoming one of the most progressive countries in the Middle East?
Ill say: well done Iraqies.
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LOL!
Yep, all by themselves. Well, without you guys anyway.
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Originally posted by NUKE
It's not about helping Bush, its about helping Iraq. They put politics ahead of what is the right thing to do. I bet that concept makes your head spin.
Im sure if Independent Iraqi goverment will apply Russia for Help, Puttin will shine like candle and will provide it.
Since IS is trying to make private bussines in Iraq, all money sent to Iraq are send to US.
US is so proud that they will not allow other to participate on free trade in Iraq and you still expect some financial help... IMAO
It will be interesting what happen after Iraqi get power back.
I think first think on their to do list will be.. "Who can help us to provide security overhere" .. coz contemporary occupants sux more that ever...
But its point less to speak about it, we will see it in few days.
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Originally posted by Toad
What are you going to say if 2-3 years from now Iraq HAS a relatively smooth-running elective government and is making good strides towards becoming one of the most progressive countries in the Middle East?
Actualy what is most progressive country in ME today ?
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Originally posted by Toad
LOL!
Yep, all by themselves. Well, without you guys anyway.
really?...hmm...
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Amusing the hatered towards Chirac just because he and some others rained on Bush's parade.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
Amusing the hatered towards Chirac just because he and some others rained on Bush's parade.
...-Gixer
Rained on Bush's parade?
France has little more impact on the world than St. Croix.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Amusing the hatered towards Chirac just because he and some others rained on Bush's parade.
...-Gixer
Just some poorly educated people vomiting out what they've been told to think by Fox news.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
maybe he thinks regime change in America is the best way to achieve lasting peace in Iraq and in the wider M/E.
What a peculiar statement.
MiniD
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Just some poorly educated people vomiting out what they've been told to think by Fox news.
You mean commenting on a direct quotes of Chirac from AP news.
"namely that there is no alternative to restoring peace and therefore to restoring security and development in Iraq and that no effort must be spared in achieving this," Chirac said.
Now that he says no effort must be spared to achieve this goal of his, I just wondered what he is going to do about it.
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Originally posted by NUKE
I just wondered what he is going to do about it.
Très simple!
Everything he can possibly think of to obstruct the US.
But you already knew this.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
nope not at all - all the rest of the world has to do to see Bush get thrown out is not lift a finger to help him - which do you think will happen?
4 more years of Bush...
Get used to it...
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This is gonna be a livley place in November :D Skuzzy better get some reinforcements.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
This is gonna be a livley place in November :D Skuzzy better get some reinforcements.
One way or the other, there's gonna be ALOT of screaming. Can't wait! :D
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Vote for Nilsen!(get the hat back!!!)
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Vote for Nilsen!(get the hat back!!!)
LOL :D
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Originally posted by NUKE
So he beleives no effort must be spared, yet refuses to help? Nice! What is he saying? The guy continues to be repulsive.
I guess he would have rather continued to "not know" and just trust that Saddam didn't have them. What a man of action Chirac is. what bold leadership he provided in the situation.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040605/D8311V600.html
Who cares what any of those euros say or think, personally I think the place is an out of control amusement park for the morally challenged.
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Originally posted by storch
Who cares what any of those euros say or think, personally I think the place is an out of control amusement park for the morally challenged.
And we are selling tickets! Want the family pass?
Daniel
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
And we are selling tickets! Want the family pass?
Daniel
:rofl
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Yes, you do indeed sound like one of those Disney tourists...
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Yes, you do indeed sound like one of those Disney tourists...
:rofl