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Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Toad on June 05, 2004, 03:28:32 PM
US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs (http://cio-today.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_title=US-Economy-Adds---------New-Jobs&story_id=24432)

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For the ninth consecutive month, the US economy appeared to be on the upswing, with 248,000 jobs added in the month of May.......

.....May's increase of 248,000 payroll jobs exceeds market expectations and is the 9th straight month of job creation. 1.4 million jobs have been created since August 2003....

.."In the last 4 months, 91,000 manufacturing jobs have been created, reversing a 42 month job decline in manufacturing employment. Also, manufacturing employment was revised upward from the previous two months: 14,000, for a positive 23,000 jobs gained in March, and by 8,000 in April for a positive gain of 29,000," Chao stated...




Spinmeisters?
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: mietla on June 05, 2004, 03:31:03 PM
Bad news.....  for Kerry and the rest of the libs.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: capt. apathy on June 05, 2004, 03:37:33 PM
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.."In the last 4 months, 91,000 manufacturing jobs have been created, reversing a 42 month job decline in manufacturing employment. Also, manufacturing employment was revised upward from the previous two months: 14,000, for a positive 23,000 jobs gained in March, and by 8,000 in April for a positive gain of 29,000," Chao stated...


could be good news.  except that the bulk of 'manufacturing jobs created'  where created by reclassifying food-service jobs as 'manufacturing' jobs.

no need to spin it, the numbers where already spun to get those results.

"I work in the manufacturing industries, building cheeseburgers" :rolleyes:
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 05, 2004, 03:44:02 PM
It's not the economy, it's Iraq stupid......
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Gunslinger on June 05, 2004, 03:45:58 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
could be good news.  except that the bulk of 'manufacturing jobs created'  where created by reclassifying food-service jobs as 'manufacturing' jobs.

no need to spin it, the numbers where already spun to get those results.

"I work in the manufacturing industries, building cheeseburgers" :rolleyes:


And were did you get that info?
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Morpheus on June 05, 2004, 04:02:05 PM
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Originally posted by mietla
Bad news.....  for Kerry and the rest of the libs.



Any bad news for those scumbags is good news to me.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: NUKE on June 05, 2004, 04:07:43 PM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
It's not the economy, it's Iraq stupid......



even better then. Iraq has been a complete success so far.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: SOB on June 05, 2004, 04:10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
And were did you get that info?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml

Interpret it how you see fit.  Some see it as fishing for a reaction to the possibility of re-classifying fast food employees from service to manufacturing workers.  Others see it just as an observation in the economic report that the definition of manufacturing workers is "fuzzy."

As far as I know, though, they haven't actually started counting Fast Food employees as manufacturing workers.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Nilsen on June 05, 2004, 04:31:17 PM
and the bbs war starts all oave again :rolleyes: :) :D :o :p :cool:
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: DmdNexus on June 05, 2004, 05:23:58 PM
The price of plywood went up because of Iraq.

I guess this war is making benefiting someone body.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Toad on June 05, 2004, 05:25:26 PM
Yeah, I hear the Canucks make most of the plywood now. Well, them and the Asians.

Maybe the economy is recovering just on plywood profits alone?
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 05, 2004, 05:26:50 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
even better then. Iraq has been a complete success so far.


Well the majority of Americans appear to disagree....

• Fifty-six percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy and 41% approve. That is the highest disapproval number and lowest approval number of the Bush presidency.

• Fifty-five percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, and 42% approve. Again, the approval number is the lowest and the disapproval number is the highest of any survey Gallup has taken on the question, dating back to late October 2002. On foreign affairs overall, Bush gets 42% approval and 53% disapproval — again, a record low on approval and a record high on disapproval.

Think your boy can go into the high 30's for approval ratings? I'm thinking of a about a 38 or lower by Nov - he's not going to get voted out of office he's going to be laughed out of office.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: lada on June 05, 2004, 05:29:25 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
And were did you get that info?


yeah its probably 6 months old info... they used to plan this change for loong time... nobody realy know why
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: DmdNexus on June 05, 2004, 05:54:52 PM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Well the majority of Americans appear to disagree....

• Fifty-six percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy and 41% approve. That is the highest disapproval number and lowest approval number of the Bush presidency.

• Fifty-five percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, and 42% approve. Again, the approval number is the lowest and the disapproval number is the highest of any survey Gallup has taken on the question, dating back to late October 2002. On foreign affairs overall, Bush gets 42% approval and 53% disapproval — again, a record low on approval and a record high on disapproval.

Think your boy can go into the high 30's for approval ratings? I'm thinking of a about a 38 or lower by Nov - he's not going to get voted out of office he's going to be laughed out of office.


Riddle me this batman - what does it mean when the majority of the "polled" Americans agree or disagree with anything?

The Americans these polsters poll seem to flip-flop every month.
And really, are they experts in anything? What does the average American know about running an economy?

Diddly squat! All the average American knows, is that Gas prices are higher, Americans are dying in Iraq, and congress is spending Billions on a country most of them would not even know existed or where it was on the map, until the nightly news plastered it all over the TV... EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST 10 years... and I bet you a pay check there are still a lot of Americans who couldn't tell you what Contenant Iraq is even on!

Ok my point.... polls and American opinion are BS - it changes with their pocket book and what happens to be on TV that night.

ok that's my cynical 2 cents.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Silat on June 05, 2004, 07:08:51 PM
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Originally posted by mietla
Bad news.....  for Kerry and the rest of the libs.


I wish those that use the term libs as a slam would please show one example of them wanting failure .
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: strk on June 05, 2004, 07:16:28 PM
Good news for Bush* (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119034)
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Duedel on June 05, 2004, 08:24:04 PM
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Any bad news for those scumbags is good news to me.

The hatred in ur country is very deep and huge. Many of u have to learn what respect means even though one did not agree with the opposite opinion.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: VOR on June 05, 2004, 08:38:24 PM
Truer words were never spoken, Duedel.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 06, 2004, 03:37:49 AM
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Originally posted by DmdNexus
Riddle me this batman - what does it mean when the majority of the "polled" Americans agree or disagree with anything?

The Americans these polsters poll seem to flip-flop every month.
And really, are they experts in anything? What does the average American know about running an economy?

Diddly squat! All the average American knows, is that Gas prices are higher, Americans are dying in Iraq, and congress is spending Billions on a country most of them would not even know existed or where it was on the map, until the nightly news plastered it all over the TV... EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST 10 years... and I bet you a pay check there are still a lot of Americans who couldn't tell you what Contenant Iraq is even on!

Ok my point.... polls and American opinion are BS - it changes with their pocket book and what happens to be on TV that night.

ok that's my cynical 2 cents.


If you look at polls and election results there is a clear indication that to win an election in America, one requires an approval rating over 50% to do so - less than 50% and candidates lose - or so it's been for the last 60 years.

However my response was to Nuke - he called Iraq a great success - obviously there is a difference in the versions of English we speak since as I understand the word it's anything but a success - I was merely pointing out that when asked their opinion on the matter the majority of Americans opinion is that would differ from that of Nuke.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Nilsen on June 06, 2004, 04:24:05 AM
(http://www.buckfush.com/images/bush_India_Jobs.jpg)
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 06, 2004, 04:47:38 AM
Nilsen where do you find this stuff????? You do realise of course you're going to make the righties very grumpy on a Sunday, children will be slapped, wives will be ignored, dogs will be kicked - strong drink will be consumed and it will all be YOUR FAULT!!!

It's very funny - give us the link dammit.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Nilsen on June 06, 2004, 04:50:43 AM
enjoy :
http://www.buckfush.com/Gallery.html

Dont have any liquids in your mouth or your monitor will need some serious cleaning. :D
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 06, 2004, 04:53:17 AM
damn have put a fine spray of early morning coffee all over my puter!!
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: lada on June 06, 2004, 05:36:12 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
enjoy :
http://www.buckfush.com/Gallery.html

Dont have any liquids in your mouth or your monitor will need some serious cleaning. :D


geeeez Nilsen
:rofl
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: strk on June 06, 2004, 07:11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
(http://www.buckfush.com/images/bush_India_Jobs.jpg)


that is funny.  lets send George's job to India!
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Toad on June 06, 2004, 09:37:37 AM
Whats really funny is the lack of historical perspective displayed by otherwise knowledgeable people.

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Now Main Street's whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there ain't nobody wants to come down here no more
They're closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back to your hometown
Your hometown
Your hometown
Your hometown


1980



If you think a President, any President, is going to suddenly reverse nearly three decades of job losses to overseas you really don't understand the "world economy", "free trade", "most favored nation status" and a few other things.

Get used to it; it's not over yet by a long shot.
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 06, 2004, 09:46:15 AM
What is Springsteen doing these days anyway?
Title: US Economy Adds 248,000 New Jobs
Post by: Scootter on June 06, 2004, 11:30:03 AM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Well the majority of Americans appear to disagree....

• Fifty-six percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy and 41% approve. That is the highest disapproval number and lowest approval number of the Bush presidency.

• Fifty-five percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, and 42% approve. Again, the approval number is the lowest and the disapproval number is the highest of any survey Gallup has taken on the question, dating back to late October 2002. On foreign affairs overall, Bush gets 42% approval and 53% disapproval — again, a record low on approval and a record high on disapproval.

Think your boy can go into the high 30's for approval ratings? I'm thinking of a about a 38 or lower by Nov - he's not going to get voted out of office he's going to be laughed out of office.



YEA SO!    68% of Americans Polled cant find Iraq on a map, gotta start polling peps with a brain.

I could go take a poll that would prove Germany bombed Pearl Harbour on Dec 7th.


Good thing these folks don't vote:D