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Title: landing at airfields
Post by: rogerdee on June 06, 2004, 12:00:23 PM
ok is  there  any chance  that   a  landing  at  a  airfield  other  then  on the  runway  could  be    called susceful.
   Any one making  it  back  to there  field  after  combat  should  be  able to land  in  the  air field  aera  ok.
   if its  about  bout  then  half  them  for not being on a runway  but  i think  ditched  is  a little extrem
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: RTR on June 06, 2004, 01:01:43 PM
Practice, practice, and more practice.

If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.

Well, actually it is pretty easy, once you get the hang of it.

That is where the practice comes in.

RTR
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Icer on June 06, 2004, 01:17:58 PM
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Originally posted by RTR
Practice, practice, and more practice.

If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun.

Well, actually it is pretty easy, once you get the hang of it.

That is where the practice comes in.

RTR


I see his point though.. I 've come into a base dead stick with 4-5 kills and rolled to a sstop 25 feet from the runway and get a ditch.. Should be a range at the base to be able to land successfully.. like D500 or so..
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Murdr on June 06, 2004, 02:09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Icer
I see his point though.. I 've come into a base dead stick with 4-5 kills and rolled to a sstop 25 feet from the runway and get a ditch.. Should be a range at the base to be able to land successfully.. like D500 or so..


Always felt that way myself.  The runway rule originated in AW...any runway even enemy.  Kinda liked it back when you could land on enemy runways here :) lol
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Batz on June 06, 2004, 02:10:36 PM
Then why have runways at all?

Why not just a "safe circle". But when you 10ft from the "circle"  folks will say "man if I get close as I did it should be a successful landing".

Pretty soon the "circle" will be as wide as the arena.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: RTSigma on June 06, 2004, 06:03:59 PM
Oh that whole bubble being as big as the arena is rediculous.

Although theres times where you can't control your descent and rudder control and you land a tad off the field, and it says you ditched.

I would favor towards something that is about D50-100 away from the strip itself, nothing else.

Or why not award 5 point landings? To encourage practice and if you miss the strip and land within that 50-100 you lose points.

After landing and missing the strip from a bounce and coming to a stop 101D away from the strip, the field ack automatically opens up on you for being a horrible pilot.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: RTR on June 06, 2004, 06:53:36 PM
I agree Batz, at what point does it end?

Leave the succesfull landing area on the runway.

Just my 2 cents worth.

RTR
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Cobra412 on June 06, 2004, 09:28:07 PM
Anywhere on the field should be considered a successful landing.  I could see if you crash landed outside the airfield somewhere of in the distance.  But anywhere directly at the field should be successful.  They could even change it so landing successful would mean landing at the airfield and mission complete by landing on the strips themselves.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: DipStick on June 06, 2004, 10:27:55 PM
I think it should be 'successful' any where on the field. If you wanted to tack on a .5X extra on perks for landing on the runway that'd be fine too. Silly to say 'ditched' when your're sitting 50' from the tower. :rolleyes:  <-- for nopoop
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 06, 2004, 10:49:14 PM
Actually You can land anywhere. but you must end your mission on the runway  or other hard area taxi way, Hangar, Rearm pad,on the feildfor it to be successful.
So. land then just taxi to one of the hard areas and end mission
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: beet1e on June 07, 2004, 02:07:10 AM
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Originally posted by DipStick
I think it should be 'successful' any where on the field.
I agree. Last week I landed on a carrier but missed the last arrester cord - I think the CV had started to turn or something. I slid along the deck and ended up as a mangled piece of scrap metal, but alive just. In response to .ef I got You have landed successfully. :p
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Leslie on June 07, 2004, 06:54:47 PM
You can land successfully at the VH area.  Doesn't matter if it's down or not.



Les
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: jay1988 on June 07, 2004, 10:44:18 PM
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Originally posted by Batz
Then why have runways at all?

Why not just a "safe circle". But when you 10ft from the "circle"  folks will say "man if I get close as I did it should be a successful landing".

Pretty soon the "circle" will be as wide as the arena.




LOL:lol
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: TrueKill on June 07, 2004, 11:12:46 PM
i think any where within 75m of the RW shold be a sucsessfull landing but u only get half ur points iv had 7 kills b4 with a engine oil leak and my engine cut out on final i tryed to roll to the RW and rolled as far as i could witch was about an inch from my front wheels being on the RW and got a ditch now i say thats BS if not 75ms the atleast 20m cuz some squads like to park on the side of the RW like real planes did but cant cuz they'll get ditchs.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Furious on June 08, 2004, 02:20:55 AM
It's simple.  You want a successful landing, land on the runway.  If you can't manage that, then you deserve a ditch.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Dead Man Flying on June 08, 2004, 02:28:49 AM
Shut up, Furious.  Super meanie.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: SunTracker on June 08, 2004, 04:39:11 AM
Should be able to land anywhere on the airfield.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Pooh21 on June 08, 2004, 07:54:27 AM
thats dweeby gotta land on the runway or it dont count.
Though I am glad i can slide in and have it count, FA counted that as crash/kill.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Westy on June 08, 2004, 08:04:06 AM
HTC drew the line for a successful vs failed landing.  I imagine it sucks not to make it but that's the way it goes and it's really poor form to whine about not making the cut.  Try better next time.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: jay1988 on June 08, 2004, 08:50:22 AM
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Originally posted by Furious
It's simple.  You want a successful landing, land on the runway.  If you can't manage that, then you deserve a ditch.


Agreed!!!
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: doc1kelley on June 08, 2004, 09:55:58 AM
Well to stir the pot some... There were definately a lot of airfields used in WWII that were nothing more than fields of grass.  I'm talking about unimproved.  Take a look at a lot of the RAF forward response fields used during the BoB.  Yes you can land an an "unimproved" Vehicle Hanger and get a sucessful land so why not anywhere on the actual airfield?

All the Best...
Jay
awDOC1:D
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: straffo on June 08, 2004, 10:04:23 AM
Give us the option to push back the plane on the runway !!


I want to be able to vulch a poor guy pushing his plane :D
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Grimm on June 08, 2004, 12:08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Super meanie.

-- Todd/Leviathn


LOL!!!!!
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: slimm50 on June 08, 2004, 12:51:49 PM
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Originally posted by Icer
I see his point though.. I 've come into a base dead stick with 4-5 kills and rolled to a sstop 25 feet from the runway and get a ditch.. Should be a range at the base to be able to land successfully.. like D500 or so..

But isn't that part of the realism? I mean, don't you think you should be rewarded for having enough SA and skill (and luck) to make it back safely? Ditches happen:D  Get over it.
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Zanth on June 08, 2004, 01:20:06 PM
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Originally posted by doc1kelley
Well to stir the pot some... There were definately a lot of airfields used in WWII that were nothing more than fields of grass.  I'm talking about unimproved.  Take a look at a lot of the RAF forward response fields used during the BoB.  Yes you can land an an "unimproved" Vehicle Hanger and get a sucessful land so why not anywhere on the actual airfield?

All the Best...
Jay
awDOC1:D


For that matter, we should have stukas available a vh bases, they were forward deployed and used unimproved fields.

also allow m3 refueling of such aircraft that could/were rearmed away from an airfield (like stuka)
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: slimm50 on June 08, 2004, 03:44:49 PM
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Originally posted by Zanth
For that matter, we should have stukas available a vh bases, they were forward deployed and used unimproved fields.

also allow m3 refueling of such aircraft that could/were rearmed away from an airfield (like stuka)

Hijack hijack! :p
Title: landing at airfields
Post by: Pooh21 on June 08, 2004, 04:13:02 PM
cant have stukas forward enable cause then you have stukadweebs with portions of the Stuka Lied in their sigs going A2A and killing all the VH attackers. Whining ensues