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Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Cobra412 on June 07, 2004, 12:25:05 AM
Prior to the patch I had no issues with my frame rates.  I was steadily above 60 now I can only get that when nothing is near me.  I've taken my sliders and shoved the all the way to the right.  I've lowered my amount of textures. I have no clue whats up with this.  I'm also now getting white blocks when bringing up the map or initially launching an aircraft.  I wasn't having this problem prior to the latest patch.

MSI KT4V Motherboard
1.5gig 333Mhz RAM
XP 2700+ CPU
ATI 9800XT
SBLive Audigy 2 Platinum
Windows XP Pro
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Kev367th on June 07, 2004, 01:57:58 AM
Ditto
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Kweassa on June 07, 2004, 05:38:54 AM
The same.

 Personally, the last beta was absolutely perfect with the frame rate. Incredibly smooth..

 and then, with the coming of Beta39, everything goes haywire.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Batz on June 07, 2004, 06:21:53 AM
Same here fps is high for me but jumps about from 70 to 100....
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Easyscor on June 07, 2004, 08:44:46 AM
That discribes what's happening to me except I'm also seeing white or yellow blocks painted before each set of text display for the icons, auto takeoff, the gunsight glass and parts of the clipboard. I've even seen the mouse cursor drawn this way.  Once the text etc. is drawn, it calms down.

Beta 39 came out while I was in the arena, lots of things started going wrong until I finally had a hard lockup with lots of cpu protests upon hitting the restart button i.e. insert boot disk!
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: ZZ3 on June 07, 2004, 09:42:33 AM
Cobra I believe we spoke in AH arena bout this.

Try this...

Open your display properties, click on the settings tab, click on advanved.
Click on the 3d tab. (You should be running catylyst 4.5 driver) If not d/l it here. http://www.atitech.ca/support/drivers/winxp/radeonwdm-xp.html?type=xp&prodType=graphic&prod=productsXPdriver&submit.x=16&submit.y=7
Check the use custom settings box, click the custom button.
Anti aliasing use App preference.
Anisotropic filtering use App preference
Texture and Mipmap, set both to performance by moving the slider.
Wait for verticle sync, turn it off, slider to far left.
TRUFORM App preference, slider far right.

ZZ3
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: dracon on June 07, 2004, 09:45:41 AM
Agreed!

Beta 39 couldn't be worse!  After looking at Beta 38, I decided to have squad night in AH2 last night.  Beta 38 was excellent.  I had 2 members promptly quit.

Members complained of:

Stuttery mess with mini lockups

Big white block over gunsights and over Instrument panels

Bad FRs over fields

Custom Skins not working unless very very close.

Fuel Multiplier is goofy (unrealistic)

HTC - Please go back to Beta 38.  Take a big deep breath and relax.  I don't know what the hurry is but this SOUP ain't ready!  You rush this change over and you're going to lose "Big Time".
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: hitech on June 07, 2004, 09:49:23 AM
Dracon, how about you just tell me what you see , and let the programing discisions to me.

There were some major changes in both 38 and 39. These realy are needed to lower the studdering issues. It happen to have a few bugs, thats why it is still called beta.

HiTech
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: dracon on June 07, 2004, 11:25:49 AM
OK fine...and done.  Apologies Sir

Understand hitech, that I am also trying to avoid losing 50% of my squad and as of last night.......

I feel like the skipper in "Mutiny on the Bounty"
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Kev367th on June 07, 2004, 11:35:09 AM
Understand your concerns Dragon, quite a few of us are conscerned about the rush to release.
Still getting all the things described in this thread and others plus -

Since when can F6F/P47 take a hit from osty and keep on flying, witnessed by myself, karaya and waffle last night at P21.

TBM getting pings from rear gun at 1K! while doing 500+.

109/190 doing serious damage from >800 when effective range for their cannon is around 400.

Ponys doing 180 flat turns and gaining e.

Round ballistics seem way hosed, drop off for hispanos is ridiculous.

etc etc etc
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: dracon on June 07, 2004, 02:00:19 PM
Kev367th

cc I hear ya...
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Easyscor on June 07, 2004, 02:11:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by dracon
Fuel Multiplier is goofy (unrealistic)
Actually the Fuel burn Multiplier is exactly the same, whats changed slightly on most planes is the more realiatic impact of MP and rpm and the display of that info on the E6B. It's a welcome change and we still have an over simplified engine management system so this at least shouldn't be a cause for complaint.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Mathman on June 07, 2004, 05:35:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Since when can F6F/P47 take a hit from osty and keep on flying, witnessed by myself, karaya and waffle last night at P21.


So a 37mm round is supposed to blow up what are arguably two of the most survivable piston engined fighters built during WW2?
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Mugzeee on June 07, 2004, 07:10:50 PM
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Originally posted by dracon
OK fine...and done.  Apologies Sir

Understand hitech, that I am also trying to avoid losing 50% of my squad and as of last night.......

I feel like the skipper in "Mutiny on the Bounty"

We have 35 fully active Mafia members, Wizeguys/Enforcers. I wouldnt want to lose a single one. But many are having video/upgrade issues, and may have to leave. :(
PS.the Upgrade issues are on machine's that are well above the "Bench Mark" machine. A "playable" game in the opinion of everyone i talk to wuld be one that can be played right from a fresh D/L and install. ie. All settings at default no muss no fuss and absolutly NO DE-Tuning of video cards and or Dumbing down the Game Graphic settings. :( (slider porkage). With sliders all at Max performance the Base Capture game is porked. You have to be well within ack range before you can ID a Strat target and the ACK can be attacked with ones propeller only. :rofl
Come to think of it. Fuel strat set at 75% max downage? the Kweezy perk proposal, the Average PC running at Max performance. hmmm looks like a Dogfight Sim in the makins. Not much use for  large squadrons. Lest one wants to fight over the Vulches :D
The Min sys req. should be edited before AH2 is released. IMHO of course.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: dracon on June 07, 2004, 09:03:14 PM
Roger that Mugzeee!!

I think many of the Squadron CO's have these concerns.  It's a wait-n-see ballgame.

Pyro's post: "We're getting close to wrapping up the beta of AH2. We anticipate the switchover to AH2 to be made sometime next week."  Convinced me to get as many of the 339th in AH2 as possible so we could sort the samll problems like "What's DX 9.0b?" or "How do I update my video drivers."  Sunday night was to be the showcase.  Beta 38 was smooth as glass for those of us that have been doing the Beta thing.  Last night did not go well.

My comment was more on the line of "Don't rush it, we've waited this long we can wait some more.  I was certainly not into "Stepping on Toes".  It serves no purpose.

Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: DipStick on June 07, 2004, 11:16:55 PM
Quit crying, just post actual bugs and let HT keep working on it for Pete's sake. Then a few months after release when any other bugs are squashed, if you still can't play then find something else. :rolleyes:  <-- for nopoop (http://www.theblueknights.com/rolleyes.html)
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 08, 2004, 04:38:01 AM
i used to play now and than and only AH2.
but beta 40 is gonna make me stay away

il2 fb for me and ill see on the next patch.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: ZZ3 on June 08, 2004, 10:17:15 AM
Most disturbing to see all the crying in this thread. I dont see how that was any help to Cobra's question.
You guys need to stick with the topic, or start in a new thread in the proper place.
I thought this was bug reports...

ZZ3
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: LePaul on June 08, 2004, 11:17:20 AM
Heh, so your squad is threatening to come apart because of a Beta?  What's your squad?  The Uptight Betty Crocker Brigade?  :p

Just teasing...

My FPS soared in this release and played great.  Nvidia GeForce 4 4600 card here.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: MaxDead on December 21, 2004, 07:52:44 PM
Ditto frame rate drop.  6800GT / ASUS Nforce 2 / 512mb / sb Audigy 2

...edit dito the white squares as the textures load up.  the white squares are really bad if you inadvertantly tab out to the desktop and back also.

...note, odd as it may seem the game doesn't seem as framey as the FPS reading would indicate and I haven't tried a 3rd party FPS indicator like FRAPS to confirm the reading.

-Max
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: doobs on December 21, 2004, 11:02:35 PM
Hitech, running 2.26 pent 4, geforce40 card and still going strong,
can't run annimated water as card doesn't support it. Thats OK, because I don't want to yak every time i fly FUI. (flying under the influence). And the non moving water is ok with me. Can't imagine going into a hard roll in my f4 on the deck with animated water and me FUI. It would be dinner awayyyy. Patch hasn't hurt me at all, but the new smog is affecting my lungs at low alt.

Game Rocks, I can't even imagine what this game will look like in five years, ..............full I-MAX cockpits, with force feedback.

I-MAX cockpit with forcefeedback©doobsindustires:aok
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: MaxDead on December 22, 2004, 12:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by doobs

Game Rocks, I can't even imagine what this game will look like in five years, ..............full I-MAX cockpits, with force feedback.

I-MAX cockpit with forcefeedback©doobsindustires:aok


Your making me drool.  I've always wanted to pull apart a FF joystick and wire up some 5hp motors to a chair and see what happens. :)  Talk about dinner awaaayyyy!

-Max
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: Mugzeee on December 23, 2004, 12:53:30 PM
Interesting.....this thread was started on 06/2004
Are we replying to the proper patch?
PS.....the fog “(Smog) effect has helped my FR...But only in open sky conditions. In base cap or other med to heavy traffic conditions my FR is the same as it was 3 patches ago.
I think many have speculated that the fog effect was added in an attempt to improve FR. Is that truly the reason the (Smog) was added? I wouldn’t think so.
Title: Frame Rate Drop after Patch...
Post by: MaxDead on December 23, 2004, 06:04:21 PM
LOL since the thread was so old I hoped nobody would catch that I was responding to the wrong thread, I had both open is my only excuse (both threads and more than a few FYI containers).  BUT  yes, I have just lost 40 some odd FPS... I was running 60 something average and now it shows 20 something average in the CTRL I display.  Again I didn't FRAPS it yet I guess I'll do that tonight.

-Max