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Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: NUKE on June 07, 2004, 11:16:52 PM
was watching Band of Brothers...episode where an American risks his life to lift a Luger off a dead German and I remembered as a kid, I thought the Luger was a "cool" looking gun.

As an adult, I find the Luger to look like a sissy gun...... pretty ugly actually. Anyone else have similar views?
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Sandman on June 07, 2004, 11:17:55 PM
I try not to get all wrapped up with the phallic nature of firearms. ;)
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Gyro/T69 on June 07, 2004, 11:27:04 PM
I kind of like the broom handle Mouser.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Rafe35 on June 07, 2004, 11:28:39 PM
I have fire a German Luger once about 4 weeks ago in Gun Club Pistol shooting area and I did not like the Luger, so I prefer 1911 Colt 45.  :D
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: B17Skull12 on June 07, 2004, 11:30:18 PM
in mail Srg proved the colt was better by a long shot than a lugar.

lugar looks cool though.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Rafe35 on June 07, 2004, 11:38:30 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
in mail Srg proved the colt was better by a long shot than a lugar.

lugar looks cool though.
Yeah, R. Lee was firing both guns at the Melon and he really like Colt 45 than Lugar.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: deSelys on June 08, 2004, 05:26:17 AM
The luger was already obsolete at that time, while the 1911 wasn't  (and still isn't!).

But the Luger carries such an imago... I think that a lot of people can recognize a Luger or a Luger replica...even if they're not interested in guns.

The Walther P38 is much better IMO.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: lazs2 on June 08, 2004, 08:15:53 AM
Ok.. back when.. you could get good lugers for about $75 and the ammo was surplus at about 20 bucks a thousand.

We shot a lot of em.   They were accurate but had terrible sights.  they were accurate because the bsarrel was pretty much fixed with the front sight mounted to it like a revolver (barrel actualy moved back about 1/8" before breech block unlocked).   They were very complex and not really safe to carry in any way that would make em useful in a hurry.   Magazines were fragile with wooden floorplates.  the breechblocks would pound themselves into trash with hot loads and the way the firing pin fitted to the breechblock was fragil and would sheer.

They jammed... a lot... if they were dirty they jammed allways.  They were fat for what they were and clumsy.   I thought they looked kinda cool tho and had a facinating togle action that you could see work.

lazs
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Curval on June 08, 2004, 08:26:52 AM
I saw a show on guns recently and they had a Luger on it that was one of the most valuable hand guns in existance.

It was one of two prototypes made...the other was destroyed.  Worth well in excess of $1,000,000.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: lazs2 on June 08, 2004, 08:34:44 AM
curval the only lugers that would fit that description were the .45 caliber conversions that were made for the U.S. trials to compete for the contract for the U.S. military... they were crap too and failed constantly along with one selfdestructing.

slotz... you are right the 08 says evil mastermind in a Austin Powers kind of way... complex and bizzare and not working too well.

lazs
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: deSelys on June 08, 2004, 08:43:51 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
... you are right the 08 says evil mastermind in a Austin Powers kind of way... complex and bizzare and not working too well.
 

:rofl :rofl Sig material, thanks!
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Curval on June 08, 2004, 08:48:51 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
curval the only lugers that would fit that description were the .45 caliber conversions that were made for the U.S. trials to compete for the contract for the U.S. military... they were crap too and failed constantly along with one selfdestructing.


Those are the ones.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: GtoRA2 on June 08, 2004, 10:57:01 AM
I have never shot one, but I never thought much of them, sure they look good but that is all anyone ever says about them.


Did the German army not have test standards like the US army?
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: lazs2 on June 08, 2004, 12:12:51 PM
as someone said... the 08 was obsolete even before the first world war.

The P38 was a much improved replacement.   It was also in 9mm and a little large but was a more conventional and robust design that could be carried with one in the chamber and the hammer down.

lazs
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: VOR on June 08, 2004, 12:17:56 PM
I've always wanted to add one of these to the collection since WW1 and WW2 weapons are what I'm really into. Certainly not for its practicality, more for the mystique. Just say the word "LUGER". Wow..almost like "MUFASA". :D
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: lazs2 on June 08, 2004, 12:20:27 PM
You can buy both the luger and p38 from WWII stores right now for maybe 700 and 400 respectively.   condition good to very good.

lazs
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: VOR on June 08, 2004, 12:24:00 PM
I've seen some nice E German P-38 police pistols on the market lately at a good price too. Problem is actually "household 6". She has a point of sorts..the safe is full. Gotta save up for a bigger one before I can realistically get away with anything else.
Title: German WWII Luger
Post by: Rino on June 08, 2004, 12:55:17 PM
My brother's father in law was a AAA gunner in the wehrmacht.
After being wounded on D-Day , he was sent home
to heal.  After war's end he was given to the russians by the US
and spent 5 years in Siberia building bridges.

     He says he still has his luger in his attic somewhere, I'd just
like to buy it to keep it in the family.  He has a grandson, and I
imagine little Mike would be interested in his grandfather's
stuff :)

     Besides, i already own a Colt .45 ;)
Title: Re: German WWII Luger
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 08, 2004, 01:00:23 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE
was watching Band of Brothers...episode where an American risks his life to lift a Luger off a dead German and I remembered as a kid, I thought the Luger was a "cool" looking gun.

As an adult, I find the Luger to look like a sissy gun...... pretty ugly actually. Anyone else have similar views?


Um... I guess I can understand where youre coming from.

You ever shot one?  Nothing feels better - the Luger is the only pistol that 'points' better than the 1911, IMO.