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Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Gixer on June 08, 2004, 06:55:54 PM
Given the recent D-Day celebrations I took a moment to phone my Uncle in England who was a Royal Marine Commando during World War 2 and vetern of D-Day. When I was a kid I once asked him what his favourite weapon was during WW2.

His first choice was this.

(http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/SMG/thompsonM1.jpg)


And his 2nd favourite.

(http://users.mo-net.com/nixit/shovel.jpg)



I also recently asked him if you could take one modern weapon from today for use back then what would it be. He simply answered "The Helicopter".



...-Gixer
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: hawker238 on June 08, 2004, 07:04:48 PM
What can a helicopter do that a light observation aircraft (a la storch) can't?
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Gixer on June 08, 2004, 07:10:15 PM
Oh for those that might be interested in a little more information on the Royal Marines. There is an excellent book titled:

FROM OMAHA TO THE SCHELDT: The Story of 47 Royal Marine Commando

http://www.tuckwellpress.co.uk/bookpages/fromomaha.html


47 being my uncles Commando.



...-Gixer
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 08, 2004, 07:12:03 PM
Thompson is my fav machine gun of WWII hehe. Was an allied soldiers best friend. Same as the MP40 was the axis. Another cool looking gun.

The shovel was multipurpose. Digging of course, I've heard rare occasions they were used to heat up food on. And for a swift bash to the head if in close proximity to an unsuspecting axis soldier. Aye!
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Gixer on June 08, 2004, 07:12:21 PM
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Originally posted by hawker238
What can a helicopter do that a light observation aircraft (a la storch) can't?


You have to be kidding?

I dunno I can think of a hundered or so. How about hovering landing and insertion of commandos at almost any location? Unless you would prefer a glider?



...-Gixer
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: VOR on June 08, 2004, 07:12:32 PM
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Originally posted by hawker238
What can a helicopter do that a light observation aircraft (a la storch) can't?


Short answer: alot. For example, insert troops by the squad/platoon and pick them up again. Granted, a fixed-wing bird can do this under certain conditions, but vertical takeoff/landing into confined spaces is something an airplane can't do. Also resupply and dustoff come to mind. Also, a helo can mask itself in terrain when available while keeping an eye on things. Tons more, but these come immediately to mind.
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: hawker238 on June 08, 2004, 07:15:13 PM
I'm more concerned with the types of models they had then.  Obviously, a Huey or something would be of a hell of a lot of use back then, but what could a Kolibri or something of the like do?  Short loiter times, low speeds, vulnerable to ground fire.  How many men could those choppers haul?  Two?
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: VOR on June 08, 2004, 07:17:57 PM
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also recently asked him if you could take one modern weapon from today for use back then what would it be. He simply answered "The Helicopter".


And Gixer..watched a show the other day about British Commandos WW2 era. The Tommy gun and spade both seem to fit the concept of getting close and nasty...ugly business.

to your granddad!
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Pongo on June 08, 2004, 07:18:14 PM
"I also recently asked him if you could take one modern weapon from today for use back then what would it be. He simply answered "The Helicopter".
"
what part of the question didnt you understand. LOL
modern weapon from today
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: hawker238 on June 08, 2004, 07:20:55 PM
:o  Oh well, was just wondering.  With a modern chopper comes a lot of technology, not sure if that was implied.
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Gixer on June 08, 2004, 07:22:34 PM
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Originally posted by VOR
And Gixer..watched a show the other day about British Commandos WW2 era. The Tommy gun and spade both seem to fit the concept of getting close and nasty...ugly business.

to your granddad!



Wrong on both accounts. I said my Uncle not my grandad. My grandad was in WW1.

Secondly if you read the book his name is Sgt Raymond Esther. If you like I can give you his phone number happy to chat with you.


...-Gixer
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: VOR on June 08, 2004, 07:28:05 PM
Doh..egg on my face. Read one thing and wrote another. What I really meant to say was... to your granddad and uncle!

Not sure I follow about the book part...which book?

edit: I missed your second post. Got caught up in talking helicopters.
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: GtoRA2 on June 08, 2004, 10:05:03 PM
Gixer
 Sounds like a good read, thanks for the link.


to your uncle!
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Pongo on June 09, 2004, 12:01:06 AM
Still dont understand what use a canteen is as a weapon.
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: Fishu on June 09, 2004, 03:52:02 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Still dont understand what use a canteen is as a weapon.


Thats just an extra in the picture, ignore it!
Shovel.. now thats a weapon.
Title: A Commando's Favourite Weapon of WW2
Post by: AdmRose on June 09, 2004, 07:00:00 PM
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
Thompson is my fav machine gun of WWII hehe. Was an allied soldiers best friend. Same as the MP40 was the axis. Another cool looking gun.

The shovel was multipurpose. Digging of course, I've heard rare occasions they were used to heat up food on. And for a swift bash to the head if in close proximity to an unsuspecting axis soldier. Aye!


In the battle reenactment I saw in Reading this weekend, not one Allied soldier had a Thompson...mostly Garands, a .45 or two, and one .30 caliber machine...no freakin' Thompson :mad: