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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Vermillion on January 07, 2000, 02:03:00 PM
With word that the HTC crew are pushing to get the game outta beta,( good luck guys  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) There has been much discussion about pay to play, and the current feature set.

So here is what I would personally like to see in the game before I pay for it.

Expecting to see me list alot of new features and Aircraft? Nope, not a single one. Basically I would just like to see two current features finished, and I would be happy to call it a version 1.0

1.) Plane Flight Models: One thing I think is critical is to get the current planeset totally fleshed out. Fine tune the FM's. Put the little quirks of each aircraft in, and get each planes individual damage attributes finish. Simple ain't it?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

2.) Strategy Model: Here is where I think AcesHigh has so much potential, but is sorely in need of some fine tuning. Here are a couple of ideas.

a.)Fine Tune the Radar/Sector count effect as it deals with the HQ complex. Currently, its an all or nothing effect tied to the destruction of the HQ. How about staging the effect? If 50% is destroyed you lose your radar, If 75% is destroyed you lose your enemy sector counters. And if totally destroyed you friendly sector counters.

b.)Give us the ability to "CLOSE" an enemy airfield.

c.)In conjunction with b.) give us the ability to "hurt" the defenders (currently its just offensive operations you can hurt) thru the strat model, so that it is possible to take airfields, without dealing with a constant stream of instant replaning pilots with full strength aircraft. Right now I have to fly 10-15 minutes with an aircraft to get to a field we are trying to take, when a defender can launch over and over even if the field is bombed flat. Eventually he will get me. Plus its way to easy for them to defend against C-47's with the current model.

C.) Change Icons so that if you are under DAR (under 500ft) they are only effective out to half the distance. This will help out goonie drivers, low alt buff raids especially with the B26 coming, and generally give low alt operations a meaning.

d.) This is the closest thing to a new feature that I think should be finished. I would like to see the AAA Field Defense Models completed. High Alt 88mm's for those stratosphere B-17's, Medium altitude 40mm, and low alt 20mm and .50 cals. Right now the current field Ack is totally ridiculous.

Thats it...  With these features fleshed out, I think it is a complete game in its current configuration.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

So what do you think? What are your expectations?? Be reasonable since we know they want to leave beta very soon.

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WB's: (verm--), **MOL**, Men of Leisure,
"Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires ;) "
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 07, 2000, 02:06:00 PM
And all these years of Warbirds, I thought MOL stood for Men of Lesions..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: blur on January 07, 2000, 03:08:00 PM
I'd like to see the end-of-millennium before the end-of-beta.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Westy on January 07, 2000, 03:21:00 PM

A real decent strat model Vermillion.
That is what would tie it all togther for me.

Furballing is fine. But I'd really like to hunt jabos that are going after trains, supply convoys and our boys on the ground.
 Then again I'd love to also be a jabo hunting trains, roasting tanks and all thew while trying to avoid the c.a.p.

  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

-Westy
-Westy
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: TT on January 07, 2000, 03:32:00 PM
 I would like to see a more net friendly gunnery model. Ive shot down over two thousend planes. I know when ive really hit something, and when ive just pinged it. Being a cannon junki. I often bet everything on one solid pass. When I obliterate the wing of a spit with hit sprites. 30mm nose gun and 20mm wing mounts  from 330 yrds til I get to 100 yards. and the guy turns and chases me down and kills me. This aint getting it. BTW this exact thing happend last week. The player was 1999.

 Second I want all kill messages. The constant "did I get you" is taking up more buffer space then the message would. Not two bring up a sore subject. But when the whole FH thing was going on. I new it was no big deal, Because there were no kill messages. AH has half the same problem itself.

 I would like the ranking page to reflect more what people are interested in(fighters) then trying to force people to Buff.
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: skydiver on January 07, 2000, 03:49:00 PM
I would like to see you get a kill credit even if you get killed first. You know like going HO getting killed , but you also get the other guy, the way it is now even if you did take him down you get no credit if you go down first. Seems to me if you got him you got him and thats the way it should be credited.
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Yeager on January 07, 2000, 04:10:00 PM
In my opinion AH is just about ready.  The recent changes in FMs indicate that the final phase of FM testing/verification is underway and the addition of smoke and debris
nearly completes the base product.  As far as planes and the number available, this will continually grow so thats a moot point.  We have almost enough (need one more bomber) to act as a starting point IMO.

Also.....
At some point in time this thing goes pay-for-play.  We simmers dont have much pull one way or the other on the matter.  One thing that does have a lot of pull is the payroll and being able to meet it.  Although the HTC crew is small (six employees?), these folks need to make a living like most everyone else.  I suspect that either a business loan was financed or someone had a large stash of money and these things either need to start getting paid or the cash runs out.

As far as people leaving once AH goes pay, get ready, cuz the squeaking will be horrible and the insults will be pointed. Fortunately, it will only last a week or two and the community will be more dedicated as a result.  Also, remember that AH has not started its media blitz/advertizing.  

I have a lot of faith in the producers and product.  I decided about three months ago that this is where Im going to spend my money and every day till they start charging is a bonus for me.

Yeager

[This message has been edited by Yeager (edited 01-07-2000).]
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Extreme on January 07, 2000, 04:49:00 PM
1. Improve the startup screen a little..right now it's just UGLY.

2. I'd like to be able to change my password.  I'd also like to be able to check my online times.  I don't want to be paying for someone else to play.

3. Fix the maneuver kill bug.  I've had long fights and not getting kills when the other guy hits the deck.  Kinda intermittent at the moment.

4. Some bug thing I sent to Pyro...did you get my email Pyro??

5. If possible at all, I'd like them to tweak the code a little so my lil' ol PC gets more FPS.

6. Change the terrain.  This terrain is getting boring.

That's all  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)..or at least I can't think of anything else for the moment.

Ex.
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Central on January 07, 2000, 06:26:00 PM
I would like to see.......................... ...........

a P38   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
hehe


Central
Dickweed FG
 http://bombergroup.com (http://bombergroup.com)

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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: iculus on January 08, 2000, 10:39:00 AM
Right now,

I like the veiw system, the graphics (moving control surfaces  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)), the community here is great as well.  The flat rate is another bonus!  

The only thing is that there are many WB squads that want to make the "which sim?" decision as a group.  I hope that the Mac version is coming soon, so that mac squadmates can see what AH is all about  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).

IC
 

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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Minotaur on January 08, 2000, 10:56:00 AM
 
Quote
a P38  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Me too...   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Mino
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: pzvg on January 08, 2000, 12:27:00 PM
I'd like a rail system supplying the airfields from HQ, if 2 trains don't arrive fuel and ammo go 75%,3 trains 50% etc
and a nice shiny bridge on that train track
so I can Jabo the sucker right into the river.
P.S. HT almost forgot my old WB's whine
"I wanna 110 so I can at least shoot at the guy killing me"  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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pzvg- "5 years and I still can't shoot"
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Laika on January 08, 2000, 01:05:00 PM
A historical type arena (with smaller icons)
A couple of different terrains
Some ground vehicles
A good account setup with customer service (none of this "Visa declined" and then no one replys to your emails to find out whats going on stuff)

It will take that before my c-card comes out.  

laika
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Rocket on January 08, 2000, 01:26:00 PM
A way so that IF I can find any extra money in the budget I can play WITHOUT having to have plastic.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Rocket

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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Toad on January 08, 2000, 07:40:00 PM
Features that truly differentiate this game from what has gone before.

Right now, bottom line, is it all that different from the previous effort with respect to gameplay?

Suggestions? Strat would be such a feature as would a HA that truly tried to come up with new solutions to the Icon issues.

Gameplay is the issue. These guys always do a "better than the average bear" job on the FM's, graphics, etc.  But what makes this one DIFFERENT?
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: K-KEN on January 08, 2000, 09:41:00 PM
OKAY!
Here is my wish list.......short though.
Arenas:  The current, and a Pacific...or watery thing. I think that an arena for PAC planes......zekes, F4U, F6F's and the like is warranted.
Planes:  European and Pacific theaters.
nuff said.
Support stuph:
Trains.  Trains....  Trains.  And then a plane or ship that can carry a tank or FP to the front! (ASAP)  <btg>
KKEN
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Thunder on January 09, 2000, 12:35:00 AM
Yeager stated my views almost to a word. I don't think there needs to be any more hoops before I am ready to pay for this. I feel that HiTech has been very generous. I would like to see them strengthening themselves financialy so they can continue to improve and make things better. This is where I intend to spend my money also.

Thunder

Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: xela on January 09, 2000, 06:39:00 AM
Something which bothers me lately is the unbalancing concept of 3 countries, I suggest get rid of one, preferable the .......  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Next is kills/sortie counter, being hunted sucks hehe
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Dingy on January 09, 2000, 08:49:00 AM
Hmmmm.....what would I like to see?

1.  Some kind of viable high alt defense over strat target for those stratospheric B17s.  88mm Flak would be nice  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

2.  Like has been mentioned earlier, some way to close a base.  

3.  Increase the hard target damage requirement at bases so a single B17 couldnt close a base by itself.  You would need a group of them to completely close it.

4.  Ground vehicles (Flak Panzers, tanks, etc)

- Ding
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: jarbo on January 09, 2000, 03:53:00 PM
TRAINS TRAINS TRAINS... I want to kill trains!

I would be neat to have a "random variable" on the trains some heavily loaded with ack, some not.

While were wishing.........
Jarbo
of the Buccaneers
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Mr.ED on January 10, 2000, 12:08:00 PM
Man, and I thought Christmas was over!
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: nabe on January 10, 2000, 03:20:00 PM
1. Engine management with prop. pitch.

2. Fix the gunsight problem
 bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000011.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/000011.html)

3. Some Special event arenas or dueling arena

4. 8men server  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: gatt on January 11, 2000, 03:38:00 AM

Supply trains and/or ground vehicles to every airfields with 4x20mm flak wagons/trucks. Tanks.

Less severe black-outs.

Engine sound that changes with speed.

Smaller icons.

A medium axis bomber.

Two sides: allies v/s axis.

Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: meza on January 11, 2000, 05:35:00 AM
Instead of smaller icon, how about "delayed icon"?

Icon will appear several second after you see the dot.
Delay time relate to the distance.

In real world, we need some seconds to recognize the object even in a short distance.
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: lasse on January 11, 2000, 05:41:00 AM
The Lancaster !!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


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Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Minotaur on January 11, 2000, 01:57:00 PM
I would like to see the terrain smoothed out.  Particularly the rectangle patches on the hills and holes through the clouds.  Also the way the ICONS dissapear from one angle and not from another, when the plane is below you.

Wah!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Mino
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Ripsnort on January 11, 2000, 02:15:00 PM
More weather.  It would be nice to pick a spot in the US and pipe in the weather for that area directly into the sim, thus if Dallas Tx has  thunderstorms, AH does too.  There is a sim out there on the market(online) that does this, forget which, it's not a war sim though.
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: 0001 on January 11, 2000, 06:30:00 PM
This may be stretching it a bit but rain thunder and lightning and night (obviously each would affect the ID tags)

Imagine haveing a big dogfight at night with thunder and lightning
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: minus on January 12, 2000, 06:21:00 AM
typhon and tempest and is it ready for me :-))
Title: What I would Like to See before the End of Beta, you?
Post by: Batmann on January 14, 2000, 10:06:00 PM
1) Gauges on metric system for Japanese, German, Russian planes

2) Bombers of Japanese, German, Italy and Russian

3) Atack planes like Ju87 and the targets --- trains, trucks, tanks and etc.

4) Rolling Plane Set

5) Complete of engine management model

6) Make diddlyin stall sound be better