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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ravells on June 10, 2004, 11:04:34 PM
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Sorry a little pet peeve of mine. In the UK, it's I couldn't care less, or could not care less....... ie it is so insignificant you could not care less.
Where does this 'could care less' come from? I've seen it at least three times and all from American posters. Do you use the term differently?
Ravs
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They are not using the term correctly.
It's not quite as bad as, "for all intensive purposes." :)
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Not really, we're just lazy. Could has less letters than couldn't. Damn, i'm gonna go take a nap now.
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Originally posted by Sandman
It's not quite as bad as, "for all intensive purposes." :)
or "it's a mute point"
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oh god, don't get me on the 'moot point' thing.
Ravs
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I always wondered about the "could care less" thing too. I wondered if perhaps there was originally an implication that I could care less, but not much, that was at some point lost. Otherwise, I'm with you, makes no cents. ;)
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lol......arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
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Yeah, it's funny isn't it? I just ignore it. If you took the time
to point out those errors and try to teach them better, you'd spend your whole life doing it. Just laugh and move on.
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Do you know, one of the best books on language usage and abusage that has ever been written is the 'Holt's Handbook', it's an absolute work of art and written by Americans - puts the English to shame in terms of how to write properly in the English language.
Why do so few Americans read it? it's on the net!
Ravs
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Ahem... it's the "Holt Handbook".
:D
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F*uck off, smart arse.
Ravs
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Can dish it out but can't take it, eh? :D
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Too bloody, right!
Go on....split an infinitive...I.........dare you
Ravs
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I'm going to quit while I'm ahead. :aok
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Originally posted by Sandman
They are not using the term correctly.
It's not quite as bad as, "for all intensive purposes." :)
"all intents and purposes"
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The one that REALLY gets on my tits is 'Common old Garden'
Ravs
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New one on me. Is it a brit thing?
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It's 'common or garden.
must be a brit thing. Means 'run of the mill'
Ravs
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Got it... think we occasionally hear the term, "garden variety".
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Funny, it's an old enough expression that I thought we would use it in common.
you say tomato...let's call the whole thing off!
Ravs-
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It's not are fault, it must be theres.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo
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Funny about "garden" meaning common in the sense of less than desirable. With the mass production of everything in the world today, garden vegetables are becoming less and less common and more highly valued, at least by me.
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What do you grow in your garden, Iron?
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
What do you grow in your garden, Iron?
Ravs
I don't have a garden just now, I mooch off my Dad. I have grown tomatoes, okra, water melons, squash... all your garden variety vegetables. ;)
Since we're being picky about semantics here I suppose I should acknowledge that some of those are fruit.
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Well it was a literary question which means 'what goes on in your head?'
but I'm a keen gardener and do flowers more than veg, but I do interplant onions and garlic and herbs.
You're way ahead of me!
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Well it was a literary question which means 'what goes on in your head?'
Ah, was unfamiliar with the phrase. Well, I had chinese food tonight and I'm contemplating my fortune which read something like, "live a life of serenity and not regret". The chinese pronunciation for "chili pepper" on the other side was more interesting. :D
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Originally posted by rpm371
"all intents and purposes"
I was going to say, it's all intents and purposes".
Fish or cut bait. **** or get off the pot. Suck me dry and call me Dusty.
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I dont s'pose you have any little tricks for preventing the part of the melon that rests on the ground from getting mouldy AKIron?
Last years haul from my garden netted about two dozen beautiful, dark red, sweet, juicy watermelons......problem was, every single one of 'em had a soft mouldy brown spot where it had rested on the ground. :(
Not really that great a drama, we just cut the bad bits out, but it would be nice to pull off a crop without the mould.
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Well, actually Iron, the one and only time I've heard the question used in that context was when an English master asked me in boarding school. After that.......never. Nobody. Frankly, i think it's a load of bollocks.
This is how intellectual snobbery gets perpetuated.
Quite right you should be unfamliar with the phrase. I suspect the only people who use it are homos in Oxford and Cambridge.
Still, thanks for the Chinese food thought.
I'll tell you what...I'm a big Raymond Chandler fan...and you know how Philip Marlowe always had a bottle of whisk(e)y in his drawer? I have a bottle of chilli sauce.
Ravs
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I only grew melons two years Bluedog and the first was unintentional. :D Don't recall having a problem with any moldy patches on the bottoms though. Of course it is usually pretty dry here in Texas which may be the reason.
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Originally posted by SOB
or "it's a mute point"
Just as bad is
"He cant have his cake and eat it too"
This is incorrect
It should be "He cant eat his cake and have it too"
You can have your cake then eat it.
But you cant eat your cake then still have it
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just as bad is
"He cant have his cake and eat it too"
This is incorrect
It should be "He cant eat his cake and have it too"
You can have your cake then eat it.
But you cant eat your cake then still have it
You can if you have a younger sibling. ;)
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Oh my god............the 'you can't have your cake and eat it too'
Billy Connely did a whole sketch about the insanity of that expression.
Ravs
ps. If you grew Melons, Iron, you'd be a woman.
Ravs
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give everybody over there "my regards"
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oh wow.....now you've lost me....why is 'my regards' gramatically incorrect?
Ravs
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
give everybody over there "my regards"
Brings to mind another, "irregardless".
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And that triggers...Flammable........I nflammable
surely they must be opposites?
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Sorry a little pet peeve of mine. In the UK, it's I couldn't care less, or could not care less....... ie it is so insignificant you could not care less.
Where does this 'could care less' come from? I've seen it at least three times and all from American posters. Do you use the term differently?
Ravs
It started here in the USA maybe almost 300 years ago. It was not to bastardise the language but rather to escape from being POMEs. Now we don't even know why we do it....
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problem is Rogwar, your countrymen are saying that 'could care less' is wrong.
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
problem is Rogwar, your countrymen are saying that 'could care less' is wrong.
Ravs
Well, I could care less about this thread. I would never mind them.
"Never mind" is just as equally baffling to the new world nowadays.
"Never mind" means like "forget about it", but not in a USA mafia sort of context. Maybe we can blame this on the Italians?
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Never you mind...if I read my 'Calvin and Hobbes' correctly.
And that is the the word in Amlish
ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Never you mind...if I read my 'Calvin and Hobbes' correctly.
And that is the the word in Amlish
ravs
While I'm certain you are reading your "Calvin and Hobbes" correctly, I distinctly remember at the moment hearing an educated, albiet edlerly lady that owned and ran a B&B in Wirksworth, in the Derbyshire Dales area, saying, "Oh, I never mind them".
Well, but it was the Peak District....
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rogwar....you're full of surprises!
ravs
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"I could care less"
or
"I care about the subject matter enough to actually mention that I *could* indeed offer less care than is being given. The potential for a state of lesser-caring exists, but it is the case in which I choose more care to be offered." :D
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but it doesn't quite reach 'I couldn't care less'
ravs
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I dont really think that I could care less about you guys caring less that I care less , So do I really care less ? I doubt it .
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but what if you couldn't care less about caring less about .......oh I don't know gnomes.
ravs
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One of my biggest pet peeve's is idiot's who use apostrophe's in the wrong flipping place's.
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oh god, I do that all the time.
I'm terrible with apostrophes
ravs
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What's a apostrophe' ???
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When I was in the 7th grade I heard this coloquilism used for the first time, when my Civics/PE coach used that phrase all the time.
My gut reaction was that it wasn't proper English. At least imo it isn't polite...kinda belittling in a way. (Ref Octavius' post: i.e. someone includes the potential for caring less in the wording, and presumes to to do forewith.) That was an excellent summation of "I could care less" Octavius.
So, it's kinda an arrogant or authoritarian way of saying "I couldn't care less." Definitely rude, crude and never used in polite society. It expresses disdain.
Les
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Originally posted by Bluedog
I dont s'pose you have any little tricks for preventing the part of the melon that rests on the ground from getting mouldy AKIron?
Last years haul from my garden netted about two dozen beautiful, dark red, sweet, juicy watermelons......problem was, every single one of 'em had a soft mouldy brown spot where it had rested on the ground. :(
Not really that great a drama, we just cut the bad bits out, but it would be nice to pull off a crop without the mould.
go out every day and being careful not to break the vine, turn the melons so the same side doesn't sit on the ground for more than a day at a time. be sure to clean the dirt off that tends to stick, while you are at it . :)
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Growing watermelons is one of the most difficult for home gardeners. You have to look at them every day to make sure birds aren't getting to them and pecking holes. If so, put up bird nets.
Rest the melons on a bed of pine straw to protect them from the ground and excessive moisture.
Good luck!!!:)
Les
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Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Carry on
Daniel
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It may be easier to grow melons in Spain, but around here it's a major achievement for novice gardners.
I grew a melon one time. Only one reached maturity. It was small and round, about the size of a soccer ball or a bit smaller. The growing period was a long time...something like four months.
I ended up putting it in a still life oil painting along with some other garden produce from my garden and some store bought. It wasn't for eatin', it was for painting.:D
Les
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Best melons I've tasted come from Morocco
Daniel
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Obviously you've never had a watermelon from Irrigon, Oregon.
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Best melons I've tasted came from northern Alabama. Think her name was Laura.
;)
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Best melons I've tasted came from northern Alabama. Think her name was Laura.
;)
Hey! I think that could be my neighbor!!!
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We're talking watermelons here Lazerus, not where the best girls come from.:D
Now if you wanta start another thread...that subject is worthy of its own discussion.
Les
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wow.. i read 5 posts on this thread and immediately got very impatient and angry with it. What does this mean??? :confused:
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This one of the funniest, wittiest threads I've read in here in many moons. Printing it out so's I can let my wife read it. Very clever, all.:aok
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Recently posted by GoFaster: "I think she has some deep-seeded emotional issues."
Sorry, GoFaster, too good to pass up.;)
Correct expression is "deep-seated".
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Best melons I've tasted came from northern Alabama. Think her name was Laura.
;)
LMAO he is hijacking a hijack ;)
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Had an aussie/european guy with not a complete grasp of english working for me a few years back.
I told him he had to let a couple of staff go.
he replied that he was going to let "natural nutrition" look after it.
i cried laughing ... and asked him if he was planning on starving them to death.
Another time I asked him about an upcoming installation of some sort ... and he told me they had been working on a new "implementation mythology"
Another of his favourites - used quite often was ... "oh that guy - he's like a bull at a goat."
And in closing another of his best usually after something had gone horribly wrong ......" with the benefit of 20/20 ironside"
he was clearly a Raymond Burr fan.
Redd
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Originally posted by Redd
Had an aussie/european guy with not a complete grasp of english working for me a few years back.
I told him he had to let a couple of staff go.
he replied that he was going to let "natural nutrition" look after it.
i cried laughing ... and asked him if he was planning on starving them to death.
Another time I asked him about an upcoming installation of some sort ... and he told me they had been working on a new "implementation mythology"
Another of his favourites - used quite often was ... "oh that guy - he's like a bull at a goat."
And in closing another of his best usually after something had gone horribly wrong ......" with the benefit of 20/20 ironside"
he was clearly a Raymond Burr fan.
Redd
You're makin this up, right? Please say you're making it up.:lol
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Originally posted by slimm50
You're makin this up, right? Please say you're making it up.:lol
worked with him for 12 years Slimm
cracked me up many many times , wish I could remember more of them.
Redd
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LOL...the subject of an email from work: "June's Addition of the Salem Safety Gazette."
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You think 'I could care less' is annoying', what about when people, trying to sound grammatically proper, say something like 'that book belongs to Jenny and I', or 'That's Jenny and I's book'?
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Originally posted by ravells
oh wow.....now you've lost me....why is 'my regards' gramatically incorrect?
Ravs
old carlin joke: the only thing worse than sending someone "your best" is sending them "your regards" kinda condisending type of thing
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
You think 'I could care less' is annoying', what about when people, trying to sound grammatically proper, say something like 'that book belongs to Jenny and I', or 'That's Jenny and I's book'?
That book belongs to me and Jenny. :D
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
That book belongs to me and Jenny. :D
Les
Apparently it takes a bachelor's degree in English to master the concept of subject/object.
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No. I'm a badass. Everything belongs to me.
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
My gut reaction was that it wasn't proper English.
Les
only time I get a 'gut reaction' means I'm running into the Bathroom...Toilet...Lavatory to dispense of some unwarranted fecal matter:rofl
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Originally posted by Leslie
That book belongs to me and Jenny. :D
Les
Nope, that book is mine, all mine ,mine I say .:p