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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Maniac on June 11, 2004, 02:39:24 AM
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1 day untill IT begins!
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I love tournament football.
Looking forward to seeing France getting trounced on Sunday by England. Best to be optimistic, I find.
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Ya,
Talk about a tough start... France Vs England will be a great game to watch...
Sweden plays Bulgaria on monday...
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Liechtenstein (pop 32,000) gave Engerrrrrrland a scare, France should wipe the floor with us. Funny old game though, game of two halfs etc etc.
My prediction is Scoles and Rooney getting sent off because they'll realise just how ugly they are compared to the French bouffants.
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soccer ball
(http://www.rnw.nl/parceria/assets/images/soccer-ball.jpg.gde.jpg)
football
(http://www.retailrealtime.com/photos/football.jpg)
:)
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The football that you actually kick with your feet... Not the one you carry "handball"...
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Originally posted by Maniac
The football that you actually kick with your feet... Not the one you carry "handball"...
we kick it too..
(http://www.ravenscroft.org/images/library/admin/field%20goal%20attempt.jpg)
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Don't worry Eagler: here is a guide so you can fit in with the round=ball crowd:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3797259.stm
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But...you assume he/we want to fit in.
edit: Ah, I just read the link: "Football Faker". I can do that.
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I don't care who wins...I just want france to loose ASAP, i work with too many frenchmen... had to cope with it in 2000... a man cannot cope with that twice in his life.
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We have to fake soccer knowledge every two months or so when our German boss comes to the states and wants us to go watch some German soccer team in the Champions league or during the World Cup. Hell I really had to fake it when I was in Munich a couple of months ago and Bayerein(sp? Munich team was playing some green team.
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I only check the SOCCER scores when the USA plays Mexico. We beat them last time. I then make a point of asking all the guys in the shop who won the SOCCER match.
I really enjoy that.
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... wouthout us AGAIN...
will try to watch every game tho :)
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Originally posted by bikekil
... wouthout us AGAIN...
will try to watch every game tho :)
I wish Poland was there instead of Russia.
The only question for Russian team is with what score it will lose to Greece. Games with Spain and Portugal will probably be at least 4:0. :(
I think I'll root for Bulgaria then.
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I hope England lose to France. Whenever we do well in our first match we don't ever get past the group stage.
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I wish it wasn't on squealing Pay-Per-View here in the States and just on ESPN like it used to be. If England makes it to the semis or the final, I will probably order it then. I do not think there are any bars around here that give a rat's bellybutton about football/soccer so no going anywhere to see it.
Oh well, I'll just read match reports.
But you're right, football this weekend! USA has a WC 2006 qualifier this weekend and next weekend against... Grenada! :D
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Europe is lucky that the USA doesn't give a damn about soccer or we would domniate it like every thing else.
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right...
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Ah, two games every day for the next 3 weeks. Good thing the weather is lousy around here. :cool:
Our chances have taken a bit of a dive since we will be missing two key players for our first match against Italy. I suspect a clubbing in that game and fear we won't get back up for the next two games vs. Bulgaria and the hated Swedes.
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What you call Football is actually Rugby, cept you play it wearing padding and motorcycle helmets, which is a bit girly if you ask me.
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Yes, but the helmet is used as a weapon. The most violent collisions in any sport are in American football.
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A tooth stuck in head - but hooker plays on
Martin Richards
Wednesday April 28, 2004
The Guardian
Even by the macho standards of rugby league, Shane Millard's battle scar takes some beating. The Widnes Vikings' tough Australian hooker was being treated for a head wound after the match with Castleford Tigers on Sunday, when an opponent's tooth was found embedded in his head...
Full story here (http://sport.guardian.co.uk/rugbyleague/comment/0,10070,1204897,00.html)
Anway, we digress, England 7 France 0 :D
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bigman, you must have missed some of the NHL playoffs. Moving just as fast and there's that whole ice and boards thing vs the grass and no boards thing. :)
hmm, $179 for the entire Euro 2004 on PPV. Not bad for the whole thing, but considering I'm at work when the games are being played, plus saving for the AH Con, I just can't afford it.
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Originally posted by Eagler
we kick it too..
(http://www.ravenscroft.org/images/library/admin/field%20goal%20attempt.jpg)
And its a foot long, Hence the name "football"
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Originally posted by BigMan
Yes, but the helmet is used as a weapon. The most violent collisions in any sport are in American football.
Actually it is illegal to use the helmet as a weapon.
And you do not ever want to teach it to be used as such.
Here in jersey at least on the Pop Warner level (as of a few years ago anyway)
All Pop Warner head coaches have to attend a meeting where such things among others are discussed and films showed about using the helmet as a weapon.
Ive attended these and seen the films and the Xrays.
Ugly ugly stuff
Trust me, you never ever want to teach anyone to use the helmet as a weapon.
Unless that is your willing to take the risk of that person loosing the use of his arms and legs.. or worse.
If your willing to use your helmet as a weapon you shouldnt be playing.
If your willing to teach someone how to use it as a weapon, you have no buisness coaching. Period. End of story. Its not even open to debate
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Originally posted by BigMan
Yes, but the helmet is used as a weapon. The most violent collisions in any sport are in American football.
but I will agree that the most violent collisions in any sport are in American football:)
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We have 270 million + people with almost all races. Our African American population is 35 million + and people of West African origin run and jump better than whites. This is not opinion but fact. If soccer was played in the inner city and rural land in America..Europe would never win a world cup again.
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Originally posted by BigMan
We have 270 million + people with almost all races. Our African American population is 35 million + and people of West African origin run and jump better than whites. This is not opinion but fact. If soccer was played in the inner city and rural land in America..Europe would never win a world cup again.
Trying to put a racial spin on the issue of why the US doesn't dominate football is pretty sad.
Fact is it is all about money. The major $ derived from sports is from television aka advertising revenue...the game of football doesn't stop every two minutes for a time-out, personell change, or simply gaps between "plays". As a result the TV $ in the US are simply not there.
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Curval, tv adds could go away from soccer coverage and nobody would miss much :lol
That game is just painfully boring to view.
Golf and baseball are similar......plain arse boring.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Curval, tv adds could go away from soccer coverage and nobody would miss much :lol
That game is just painfully boring to view.
Golf and baseball are similar......plain arse boring.
The point is that there are very few TV ads in football (soccer). Injuries and half-time, that is about it. It is a fluid game and doesn't work well to generate US style advertising revenue.
Just opinion then I guess. Myself and hundreds of millions worldwide think that it is not painfully boring to watch. Quite the opposite, in fact. Every two years I am fanatical about the Euro championship, and then two years later the World Cup. Other than that I keep up as best I can with highlight footage.
Golf and baseball aren't my favourite sports to watch at all. I play golf and used to be a huge baseball fan, prior to the last strikes. Since then I have no interest whatsoever, so I guess I kind of agree on those two as being boring spectator sports, in general.
Of course, whatching Tiger romp to victory in the Masters a few years back was amazing...and watching the Blue Jays win the world series, twice, was alot of fun.
I guess every sport has its moments.
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Originally posted by Dowding
I love tournament football.
Looking forward to seeing France getting trounced on Sunday by England. Best to be optimistic, I find.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........... ..........
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Originally posted by BigMan
Europe is lucky that the USA doesn't give a damn about soccer or we would domniate it like every thing else.
yep.....those World Series things were you play yourselves would really set you up for playing against other countries!!
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Originally posted by BigMan
We have 270 million + people with almost all races. Our African American population is 35 million + and people of West African origin run and jump better than whites. This is not opinion but fact. If soccer was played in the inner city and rural land in America..Europe would never win a world cup again.
This is funny, totally wrong but very funny. If you listen carefully you can hear a stereotype being reinforced.
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Sterotype? No- its backed up by hard data. The last time a European white even placed in the top 10 in the 100m was 1967. I'm not even talking about winning.
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Originally posted by BigMan
Yes, but the helmet is used as a weapon. The most violent collisions in any sport are in American football.
Nah. Hockey.
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USA did the best they ever had in last years tournament. It was exciting to watch their games, will look forward to see'ing them play again. Gotta go for spain, Raul is the man:)
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Originally posted by BigMan
Sterotype? No- its backed up by hard data. The last time a European white even placed in the top 10 in the 100m was 1967. I'm not even talking about winning.
Valeri Borsov Gold Medal 1972 Olympics.
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and since 1972????
face it Euro's. Your sport will be domnited by inner-city American youth someday. When that happens you won't see all those fake injuries either.......that's un-American..
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Euro land is really really small, only about 6 people live there and they are all white anglo saxons. Africa does not have any footballing nations, because they prefer playing croquet or bridge, depending on the weather.
The only stereotype I was refering to was the size of egos.
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was a interesting day :)
Grece 2 : 0 Portugal <-- first time ever when the "visitors" won the opening game :) WTFG!
Spain 1 : 0 Russia <-- i wish Russia won.. they had some good chances in the first half... it was not 4:0 tho ;) Match was not that nice, but still worth seing... i'm wondering if RAM still reading the BB? ;)
...oh, and btw USA have more folks playing football (the real one) then the population of Poland is, BUT... still hope to see you in WC2006 so out team could beat you AGAIN ;) ...maybe Funked will put a bet on it like the last time? :D
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The international (<--- as in other countries play the sport for you US guys) rugby season has already started. None of that homo ass-clutching rubbish like soccer, and none of that stop start offensive/defensive team padded up with plate armour wussiness of American football.
Tell me- mow many times do you see American football players being changed out during play to the Bloodbin?
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An American Football player once chopped off his own finger so he wouldln't miss a game with an injury.
enough said........
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Originally posted by BigMan
An American Football player once chopped off his own finger so he wouldln't miss a game with an injury.
enough said........
If true possibly the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard. Is that supposed to impress me.
Gross stupidity is not impressive...it's just stupid.
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Originally posted by Curval
Gross stupidity is not impressive...it's just stupid.
Nope, thats America! I forget the guys name (played for Pittsburgh, right?), but he broke a finger and was told by the trainer that is was so badly broken that it needed immediate attention to reattach and set it.
His response was to demand the trainer cut it off clean and wrap it up so he could finish the game.
Thats HEART! How can you not admire that?
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This dude flew to the US for the first time from the Uk. He works with me in my office. So I take him to a US football game. He made an intersting observation: "it looks like medieval warfare" he said. It's about territory after all. Protecting yours and invading the opposition. Its brutal yet beautiful.
I'm convinced American football gives us our fighting spirit. We (the US) are warriors-not soccer players.
If I was younger I would be playing football or killing Arabs in Iraq. Ah ..youth..
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It's not Doom III retard, they get to try to kill you too.
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If I was younger I would be playing football or killing Arabs in Iraq. Ah ..youth..
^ Spitting image of Murikan stereotype, I think the others will thank you for that, wtg!
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Originally posted by BigMan
This dude flew to the US for the first time from the Uk. He works with me in my office. So I take him to a US football game. He made an intersting observation: "it looks like medieval warfare" he said. It's about territory after all. Protecting yours and invading the opposition. Its brutal yet beautiful.
I'm convinced American football gives us our fighting spirit. We (the US) are warriors-not soccer players.
If I was younger I would be playing football or killing Arabs in Iraq. Ah ..youth..
Nah, we have 'Rugby Football' for being Warriors! That's Warriors without helmets and armour! :)
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Originally posted by BigMan
An American Football player once chopped off his own finger so he wouldln't miss a game with an injury.
enough said........
so what?
An Aussie rules player had his ring finger removed so he could continue plying due to alleviate a long-running and agonising finger problem which was going to end his career
Tronsky
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Now, Aussie Rules Football, now that is a tough and crazy sport! :)
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Originally posted by Replicant
Now, Aussie Rules Football, now that is a tough and crazy sport! :)
Rugby League is worse.... :)
it looks like medieval warfare. It's about territory after all. Protecting yours and invading the opposition. Its brutal yet like this discription is so very subliminally gay.
I'm convinced Aussie Rules gives us our fighting spirit. We (the Aussies) are not all soccer players.
If I was younger I would be playing Aussie Rules or killing Leprechauns in Ireland. Ah . .youth.. :aok
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Thats HEART! How can you not admire that?
He had his finger cut off so he could play a game. Steroid induced stupidity. Nothing less. No admiration here at all.
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We have a Aussie Rules football player playing here in the USA. He plays for San Diego Chargers. He's the kicker because:
1) He is not Fast enough
2) He is not Strong enough
3) He is not big enough
to play a regular position. He is a tough muther though..I'll give him that. After punting he looks to tear sombody's head off...not your regular punter.
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Originally posted by BigMan
I'm convinced American football gives us our fighting spirit. We (the US) are warriors-not soccer players.
LOL...you are just a chest thumper.
The last two recorded bayonet charges in military history were both made by British (soccer playing) soldiers. The last one was in Iraq, the time before in the Falklands.
I read the story of the one in Iraq, I suggest you give it a read.
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Originally posted by Curval
He had his finger cut off so he could play a game. Steroid induced stupidity. Nothing less. No admiration here at all.
Damn. Fierce hits we all enjoyed from a Pro Bowler is a “steroid induced stupid player?”
WTF league were you watching?
I HATED the 49’ers, but damn, that guy was just a monster to watch.
You can’t be serious?
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Originally posted by Creamo
Damn. Fierce hits we all enjoyed from a Pro Bowler is a “steroid induced stupid player?”
WTF league were you watching?
I HATED the 49’ers, but damn, that guy was just a monster to watch.
You can’t be serious?
I said nothing of fierce hits. The man requested that his finger be cut off to re-join a GAME. That is stupid. Yes, I'm serious.
I'd respect someone who cut off his finger to save his life or something. In this case...what?...he did it because his contract states he wouldn't get paid unless he finnished the game or something? His kid needed surgery? Or did he need to pay back his booky or crack dealer? Or did he do it to be macho and have all of you guys state he was a hero of some sort?
Unconvinced...he was stupid.
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Originally posted by Curval
He had his finger cut off so he could play a game. Steroid induced stupidity. Nothing less. No admiration here at all.
You are serious.
Whoah.
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Ronnie Lott?
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well aprt from the refs in their little white coats and funny white hats it is...
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Originally posted by Creamo
You are serious.
Whoah.
Seconded.
Strange mentality some people have.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Nope, thats America! I forget the guys name (played for Pittsburgh, right?), but he broke a finger and was told by the trainer that is was so badly broken that it needed immediate attention to reattach and set it.
His response was to demand the trainer cut it off clean and wrap it up so he could finish the game.
Thats HEART! How can you not admire that?
Its indicative of the lack of skill needed to play the game. A rugby player would not have cut it off simply because it would impair his ability to handle the ball to much.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Its indicative of the lack of skill needed to play the game. A rugby player would not have cut it off simply because it would impair his ability to handle the ball to much.
Ah, see thats the difference. In American football, we have players who's sole job is to hurt other people - ball or no ball. :)
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You know...I looked it up. It was Ronnie Lott that was being refered to.
It sure took some time though. Lots of sites dedicated to a guy who clearly deserves alot of respect, not only because of his devotion to the game, but also because of the millions he has donated to help other people. I apologise for any disrespect I have shown in this thread.
But, it took time to find info on the finger thing. Wonder why that is?
Perhaps it is because of one particular quote I found on him, "He didn't care about his own body, why should he care about others." I guess that sort of sums it up. Most sites dedicated to the man make no reference to the very thing that you guys seem to admire him for.
I still think mutilating his body so that he wouldn't miss a couple of games is stupid and certainly a silly thing to bring up in a thread started to discuss Euro 2004.
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But not "Steroid induced stupidity"?
You got rubber knees back peddling ho!
Leave sports to people who know. Go argue if Bush caused the Holocaust chumpy.
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Hey...I got a little "hot under the collar" after Bigman started a willy measuring exercise in a thread that was nothing to do with American football to start out with. When I am am wrong I'll admit it.
Maybe it wasn't steroid induced stupidity...but it was stupidity nonetheless, so realistically I was 50% correct on my analysis.
Being a sports guru who is in the "know" who do you think is going to win Euro 2004?
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Oh, I was being mean, no foul Curv.
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Originally posted by BigMan
An American Football player once chopped off his own finger so he wouldln't miss a game with an injury.
enough said........
Ronnie Lott. San Fransisco 49'ers
He didnt chop it off himslef but had the tip amputated because that would heal faster then the break he suffered
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Originally posted by Curval
I said nothing of fierce hits. The man requested that his finger be cut off to re-join a GAME. That is stupid. Yes, I'm serious.
I'd respect someone who cut off his finger to save his life or something. In this case...what?...he did it because his contract states he wouldn't get paid unless he finnished the game or something? His kid needed surgery? Or did he need to pay back his booky or crack dealer? Or did he do it to be macho and have all of you guys state he was a hero of some sort?
Unconvinced...he was stupid.
It WASNT his whole finger but just the tip.
That rea of the finger was broken. It was less painfull and faster healing to nip it off rather then suffer through it.
If you ever had the tip of your finger broken you know that watermelon HURTS ..alot.
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France beat England...
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Good result for us. Historically we never proceed beyond the group stage if we do well in the first match.
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Originally posted by Maniac
France beat England...
*sigh...*
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Yeah well,
um...
remember Agincourt! :D
Ravs
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All I'm saying is that the USA will never be good at soccer because-soccer- at its core, is Un-American. Taking dives and rolling around on the ground crying and all. We like violent aggressive sports...such is our nature..we are a warrior people.
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Play Rugby or Hurley without all the body armour, and then you might qualify :D
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Play Rugby or Hurley without all the body armour, and then you might qualify :D
Ravs
There is an american world cup rugby team (and even a rugby league team)...it's just their not remotely up to the standard of the English, French, New Zealand or Australian players
ie. France 41 USA 14 in RWC '03
Tronsky
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Originally posted by BigMan
We have a Aussie Rules football player playing here in the USA. He plays for San Diego Chargers. He's the kicker because:
1) He is not Fast enough
2) He is not Strong enough
3) He is not big enough
to play a regular position. He is a tough muther though..I'll give him that. After punting he looks to tear sombody's head off...not your regular punter.
Most rugby/rugby league/aussie rules players have to blend all 3 strengths without being absurdly extreme in one area. This is because we don't have the ability to swap our entire teams at will, and the players must be able to survive a solid virtually uninterrupted 80 mins of play with only a 10 min break in the middle. Its a common tactic against teams with heavy forward packs to boot the ball down the other end of the field to try and tire them out.
I'd like to see how American football teams held up if it was a non-stop 80 minute game, with 1 break in it, and the team changed the same bar bloodbins and only a few reserve swaps allowed.
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Hello MrBlack.
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