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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Swoop on June 06, 2001, 07:31:00 AM
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Balls to custom skins. Too much trouble, like HT says, it takes longer to check each skin than it would for HTC to create them...........ok, now read that again, especially what HT said. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
HT, how bout this:
You guys create 3-4 different skins for each plane/vehicle (or let players do it for ya, I'm sure somebody would). In the hanger, add a skin choice button and allow pilots to pick which of the 4 skins they want to use. Shouldn't effect netcode much since only 1 more variable has to be sent.....which skin # being used.
This could also be a golden opportunity to add seasons to the global environment. Winter camo.....desert paint scheme.....whatever. This would seriously add to the immersion factor and allow players to make more tactical decisions.......a skin that matches the current season for low vis or a skin that totally clashes for hi-vis "come and get me" kinda pilots. (um.....only really effects GVs cos of icons but you get the idea).
The important thing here is allowing pilots to pick their own skin without having to approve multiple skins from loadsa different pilots.
whadda ya think?
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[This message has been edited by Swoop (edited 06-06-2001).]
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I agree 100% on the immersion factor of different skins. I don't have the vaguest idea regarding the technical issues of this but I would love to see a choice of skins!
The whole immersion thing is a tough nut to crack... As I sit in my dining room, the kids in the background, my wife watching TV, the fridge 6 feet away stocked with cold beer, IMMERSION is a toughy!
That said, every little bit helps. Be it skins, terrain, changing seasons, whatever.
Damned Augie
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Not to play devils advocate but you are now asking more of each persons machine requirements. Each of those machines will now have to store 4 times as many texture maps for all those new skins than our machines have to store now.
-Ding
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Um.....Dingy, you kidding?
We're only talking HDD space here.
Dunno how much space you've got but I'm up to 60 Gb. I think I can just about squeeze in a few extra skins that take up.....um.....dunno, havnt looked.....but as AH is only 17Mb I doubt very much it's a gigabyte each. ;)
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Great idea! I think 3 skins for each aircraft would be plenty... Hell, even 2 would be great. It would not be a burden on anybody's system.
I'd be willing to donate artwork for it too. :) Just get me a template...
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Bring on the Gabby's late war P47-D25 with the invasion stripes!!! :D
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<punt_MAW>
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Nuther <PUNT> just for the hell of it.
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good idea :) <punt>
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I disagree. Custom skins = cheat skins.
Heck, what a way to open the game to let guys put a BRIGHT PINK skin on my runstang!
What I would like to see is a 'skin' selector - pre-packaged paint jobs available from the Hangar. If I want an invasion or a camo job on my ride, then it would be cool to make that choice.
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[ 06-08-2001: Message edited by: Vruth ]
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Er.....Vruth......have you actually read this thread?
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<punt>
desert skins,winter skins,
PLEASE HTC
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Originally posted by Vruth:
I disagree. Custom skins = cheat skins.
Heck, what a way to open the game to let guys put a BRIGHT PINK skin on my runstang!
Did you notice this bright red icon on your plane ?
And yes your deserve a pink mustang :D (J/K)
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Firstly, what the hell is a cheat skin? "Oh no Feldwibble, the oppertunists have painted leaves on their planes!"; is that what you mean?
Secondly, What's wrong with a pink Spitfire? Have you all forgotten the Red Baron, _and why his plane was painted_ so soon?
The historical accuracy is that some planes were painted brightly, with bright personal customisations, by some pilots.
Now go and eat some Old Crow.
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LOL swoop can you beleive this has turned into the 'PINK PLANE' arguement again?
CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT READ ?
skins for a few aircraft APPROVED BY HTC!!
I think we mean P47 in D-Day scheme,FW190 in winter colours,109s in desert camo,B26's and Spits in desert camo tanks in euro theatre colours ( ;) hehe)
'i don't want a pink spitfire!!!'
WHO SAID WE DID?? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Swoop:
Um.....Dingy, you kidding?
We're only talking HDD space here.
Dunno how much space you've got but I'm up to 60 Gb. I think I can just about squeeze in a few extra skins that take up.....um.....dunno, havnt looked.....but as AH is only 17Mb I doubt very much it's a gigabyte each. ;)
Actually you are wrong here. We are talking more than hard drive space, we are talking system memory and video memory.
Granted, there should be more than enough memory available on your vid card to hold about 25 planes each with a different paint scheme... maybe more.
But, what about loading the skin from the hard drive?
As is, the system does not pre-load anything. When it comes into view, it loads. If you get into a fight with every one and their mother flying custom skins you are looking at a hard drive load time you previously would of blown a piston over... for some skins that you'll very rarely even get close enough to see?
Well if you want that, fine, but I want an option to disable that garbage..
EDIT: We are also putting more information across the network... "player x is using plane#10 skin#20" Eventually keeping track of each person, his plane and the skin he is using is going to put a big hurt on your computer.
-SW
[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]
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the bandwidth wouldnt be any greater than the noseart req we have now, though true the mem req would be higher
besides which ofu tards still doesnt have agp? :) memory should be an almost non issue
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Okay, but you still have the image loading from the hard drive everytime a new paint scheme and/or plane comes into view.
Isn't worth it. Your system gets bogged down as it has to track more planes with different paint schemes. THere's more to it than just memory Zig.
-SW
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Agree about 3-4 different camo for each plane with camo selector.
Also, as I posted already, some planes were flown by more than 1 country. Having 1 VVS camo for Spit IX could be nice too -- there are were a lot sent to USSR by lendlease.
Fariz
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i have 512 mb of ddr ram, i could put my entire AH install on a ram disk no problem
and i got that 512 mb for only 120 bucks...
fact is i am getting close to 100 fps in AH. do i want ag to turn into the unplayable fpsexperience like ww2ol? no. but id like to see more variety.
ive always said skins should be an optional thing. you could either choose to view others skins (which would be approved by a group of players chosen by htc like CM group) or just leave it with the default skin we have now.
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:D ah! give it up, lets have all white planes that way it wont tax the systems at all,better yet, lets play it in a snow landscape with a snow storm :) we can just fly icons around.
just eye candy i know but id love to see it. how about only usable offline or in a special arena where schemes are chosen just like maps? you pick a scheme and a time of year and start a special event.
if superfly etc is already overtaxed let those 'skin artists' ( ;)not me!) among us who can produce lovely models submit a few 'historic' winter or desert schemes for HTC to approve?
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