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Title: New US Army uniform...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 14, 2004, 05:20:52 PM
(http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/uploads/medium/ACU2004-06-14.jpg)


(http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/uploads/medium/zipper2004-06-14.jpg)

I wonder how effective itv will be?

http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=6042

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/14/army.new.uniform.ap/index.html


But they do look more like evil futuristic B movie villans! So thats a good thing for som of you! :D
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Post by: Rafe35 on June 14, 2004, 05:25:32 PM
UGLY! Sorry I couldn't help myself, but its UGLY!
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Post by: Drunky on June 14, 2004, 05:27:37 PM
The new uniform is a-okay with me as long as they continue to give every soldier a beret  to increase morale and make sure that the beret is made in China.  Go Army.
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Post by: Otto on June 14, 2004, 05:29:43 PM
Boy, that's worse than having everyone wear a Beret.  It's sure not a fashion statement.....

BTW, what type of background is it supposed to blend into..?  A city maybe...?
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Post by: Charon on June 14, 2004, 05:30:22 PM
That really sucks.

[even the poor guy modeling it is about to cry. It was funny when the AF did it, but this is just sad.]

Charon
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 14, 2004, 05:30:28 PM
This and the M8 rifle will make the US soldier look a lot different by next year..

(http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/mil-leimages/xm8_rightmed.jpg)
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Post by: VOR on June 14, 2004, 05:31:00 PM
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Originally posted by Drunky
The new uniform is a-okay with me as long as they continue to give every soldier a beret  to increase morale and make sure that the beret is made in China.  Go Army.


LOL! We collectively did a "rolly eye" emoticon when we made the change. Yeah, pretty silly when you think about it. I don't know anyone who doesn't want the plain ol' patrol cap back. More practical.
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Post by: Charon on June 14, 2004, 05:33:19 PM
doh
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Post by: VOR on June 14, 2004, 05:36:11 PM
(http://www.costumecostumecostume.com/kirkW.JPG)
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Post by: Charon on June 14, 2004, 05:38:28 PM
LOL VOR, that is it EXACTLY! New Class A's :)

Charon
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Post by: rpm on June 14, 2004, 05:41:04 PM
How much did we pay the French to design this?
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Post by: Rafe35 on June 14, 2004, 05:42:18 PM
LOL Vor :D :D
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Post by: Charon on June 14, 2004, 05:51:18 PM
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This and the M8 rifle will make the US soldier look a lot different by next year..


It's an improvement over the M-16/M-4 I guess, but the same old round apparently. The design does look like it should have an orange cap on the muzzle and Mattel on the side.

The transformer generation has found it's way into weapons design too - Look, it's an SMG... "Transformer, sniper rifle in disguise!" http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm


Charon
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Post by: SunTracker on June 14, 2004, 05:53:40 PM
I think the uniform looks cool.
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Post by: AKIron on June 14, 2004, 05:55:03 PM
Gotta be happy about the velcroed patches. Do the uniforms come with the velcro when bought? Having the patches sewn on was always a big expense and took the better part of a week unless you did it yourself.
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Post by: Pongo on June 14, 2004, 06:15:09 PM
:aok
It looks kind of imperial marineish at first but getting rid of unnessary tabs and buttons is good.
Love the bellowed shoulders on the back of the blouse.
I havent worn armour for anything like the terms that troops are now but I know that the stuff I wore was not made to wear under armour. You had to undo the armour to get at most anything.
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Post by: Gunslinger on June 14, 2004, 06:28:41 PM
wow cant wait to see the navy's new uniform....they're the only service left that hasnt wanted somthing new.....

Of all the services so far this has to be the worst.....the thing should be a shade of green or brown or somthing.  I'm sure there is some kind of desert varient.


SO far the Marines have done it right as far as new uniforms are concerned.
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Post by: vorticon on June 14, 2004, 06:38:37 PM
wow...right out of a classic space opera!
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Post by: Kanth on June 14, 2004, 06:44:36 PM
It's all good until the first few people trying to fight in close proximity get velcroed together.

hell in order to stop our troops all they'll have to do is lay a sheet of that fluffy stuff out and and instant quagmire.

Also at night someone adjusts his uniform and RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP nice loud velco noise..

first the beret idea, now it's this gay looking velcro outfit.

Who makes these decisions?
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Post by: VOR on June 14, 2004, 06:58:07 PM
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Originally posted by Kanth
It's all good until the first few people trying to fight in close proximity get velcroed together.

Who makes these decisions?


:rofl  Like the bar-room game where you jump at the wall wearing a velcro suit!

Educated leaders at top levels make these decisions, btw. They know what's best...they always do! The "good idea" people strike again!

:D
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Post by: capt. apathy on June 14, 2004, 07:11:03 PM
it's ugly as hell, but looks practical.

the camo pattern seems good.  kinda like those t-shirts that are printed to look blurred.  it's almost uncomfortable to look at.  which is definitely a good thing if someone is trying to shoot you.
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Post by: SLO on June 14, 2004, 07:14:33 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
it's ugly as hell, but looks practical.

the camo pattern seems good.  kinda like those t-shirts that are printed to look blurred.  it's almost uncomfortable to look at.  which is definitely a good thing if someone is trying to shoot you.


looks russian:rofl
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Post by: Gunslinger on June 14, 2004, 07:28:07 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
.  it's almost uncomfortable to look at.  which is definitely a good thing if someone is trying to shoot you.


except for a trained marksmen.  A trained marksmen will see a clear front sight tip and a blurry target either way.  


I just dont think it will blend with anything.  even a city....I think of one thing it will blend with.

Edit:  after actually reading the army article I realize I was wrong.  
They come in three different color patters.  

It has an actual pen pocket

interchangable patches

Inserts for knee and elbow pads

Sounds pretty functional to me.  The collar can be worn up or down wich is cool cause you dont have to look like an idiot w/ a collar like that or you can seal off your body from sand or an NBC attack.
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Post by: Otto on June 14, 2004, 07:28:18 PM
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Originally posted by SLO
looks russian


That's what I was thinking....:eek:
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on June 14, 2004, 07:34:37 PM
It blends in with the sky Gunslinger, so it must be coming with a mandatory jet pack.

Rocket Avengers AWAY!
-SW
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Post by: acepilot2 on June 14, 2004, 07:59:22 PM
(http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/uploads/medium/zipper2004-06-14.jpg)
 

(http://www.salon-digital.de/particles/paradocs/paradays/symbols/big/plus.gif)
(http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/military-le/mil-leimages/xm8_rightmed.jpg)

(http://ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/chasing_eclipse/equals.jpg)

(http://zedvdlist.free.fr/jaq-big/starship-troopers_face.jpg)

just my opinion.
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Post by: Kanth on June 14, 2004, 08:07:37 PM
I actually went to the site and read what they did to the uniform..some really good stuff..

they have pockets on the arms instead of the front of the top so when you wear your body armor you can still get to your stuff, they also canted the leg pockets so you can reach in them when squatting or sitting down without as much hassle..

Sounds like they actually made the thing to work well...

I still don't like the color or the velcro but the way they set the rest of it up sounds good.

Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Sounds pretty functional to me.
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Post by: Thrawn on June 14, 2004, 11:04:36 PM
You're welcome for the digital camoflage pattern.  :D

http://www.hyperstealth.com/CADPAT-MARPAT.htm
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Post by: Saurdaukar on June 14, 2004, 11:13:43 PM
(http://www.freewebs.com/alienspredator/marines.jpeg)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 14, 2004, 11:25:06 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
How much did we pay the French to design this?


Well that would be French Cnadians according to Thrawn.. :)

And not much, we paid them $7.32 US. It was the largest military purchase in recent Canadian history.. :rofl
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Post by: NUKE on June 14, 2004, 11:26:23 PM
The guy that's wearing it in the 1st pic looks like he's about to cry....

what an ugly uniform...

God help us all.
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Post by: Vulcan on June 14, 2004, 11:42:30 PM
Hmmm with all that velcro the sheep won't have a chance!
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Post by: Octavius on June 14, 2004, 11:53:52 PM
Looks like some of those "uniforms" found in horrible B movies - with huge excessively fiery explosions and they use recreational 'military helicopters' that look like they've been rented for the day.

Whats with the colors though?  They looking to only find htemselves in urban combat or rock quarries?

Yeah, they looked to the movies for this one :)
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Post by: Arlo on June 14, 2004, 11:55:43 PM
(http://jollyrogers.info/CAG44/Ohgreat.jpg)
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Post by: JoOwEn on June 15, 2004, 12:15:13 AM
Zippers get stuck and doesnt velcro wear out or make noise?
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Post by: Saintaw on June 15, 2004, 12:38:40 AM
Now, you would expect them to be showin us some new stuff like bullit proof textile, or at least something that changes colours to match the terrain using nanotech.... and they come up with...Zippers?:confused:

I am a bit dissapointed !
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Post by: XtrmeJ on June 15, 2004, 12:44:48 AM
Zippers and velcro.... *ziiiiip* *keeersshh*
Shh. Fritz, ze americanz are right behind that bush.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on June 15, 2004, 12:46:22 AM
Looks like Arlo's got it about right.

Guess we're gonna move away from killing the enemy and just get em to laugh themselves to death
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 15, 2004, 01:15:31 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Now, you would expect them to be showin us some new stuff like bullit proof textile, or at least something that changes colours to match the terrain using nanotech.... and they come up with...Zippers?:confused:

I am a bit dissapointed !


Actually thats a very very appropriate and timelly statement wrt our troubles in the mid east.
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Post by: Thrawn on June 15, 2004, 02:21:13 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well that would be French Cnadians according to Thrawn.. :)

And not much, we paid them $7.32 US. It was the largest military purchase in recent Canadian history.. :rofl



You should be greatful!  That camoflage will help save American lives.


GRUN = WITH TEH TERROIST!  :mad:
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Post by: Staga on June 15, 2004, 03:02:47 AM
New US Army prison guard's uniform... (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/domina.jpg)

J/K !
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Post by: Maniac on June 15, 2004, 03:06:54 AM
Wheres the SS patch and Swastika?

:lol
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Post by: storch on June 15, 2004, 03:07:24 AM
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Originally posted by Drunky
The new uniform is a-okay with me as long as they continue to give every soldier a beret  to increase morale and make sure that the beret is made in China.  Go Army.


They should give them a baguette and........never mind
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Post by: deSelys on June 15, 2004, 03:50:24 AM
I can't wait to see your beloved CinC in his new uniform...

(http://www.scifi-universe.com/upload/galeries/images_film/spaceball_a..jpg)
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Post by: storch on June 15, 2004, 04:10:50 AM
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Originally posted by deSelys
I can't wait to see your beloved CinC in his new uniform...

(http://www.scifi-universe.com/upload/galeries/images_film/spaceball_a..jpg)


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  darkhelmet!!!
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Post by: Fishu on June 15, 2004, 05:42:22 AM
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Originally posted by Charon
It's an improvement over the M-16/M-4 I guess, but the same old round apparently. The design does look like it should have an orange cap on the muzzle and Mattel on the side.


Actually an improved H&K G36 design ;)
And there was talking about it being adaptable for AK ammo with a quick change of barrel and so on, since theres plentiful of ammo around!
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Post by: 101ABN on June 15, 2004, 05:46:37 AM
what kind of crap is this...great another expensive uniform that we have to buy!! will the pentagon make up their friggen minds already!
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Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 15, 2004, 07:06:02 AM
What you want is a baggy jacket, with big pockets, baggy trousers, cargo pants are for spotty teenagers - you can never fit anything useful in the pockets.

Whoever thought that one up has never lived in the field for 12 weeks at a time.
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Post by: 101ABN on June 15, 2004, 07:47:17 AM
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Originally posted by Staga
New US Army prison guard's uniform... (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/domina.jpg)

J/K !


would love to be in that prison........ ive been naughty!!     :aok
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Post by: 101ABN on June 15, 2004, 07:51:11 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
You're welcome for the digital camoflage pattern.  :D

http://www.hyperstealth.com/CADPAT-MARPAT.htm


looks good in green (if youre in a country that has trees) felt sorry for the 3rd PPCLI who i was with in Afghanistan.  green uniforms in the desert.
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Post by: Gunslinger on June 15, 2004, 08:25:11 AM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
What you want is a baggy jacket, with big pockets, baggy trousers, cargo pants are for spotty teenagers - you can never fit anything useful in the pockets.

Whoever thought that one up has never lived in the field for 12 weeks at a time.


actually it's allready been in iraq w/ some stryker brigades.  Those pockets are not designed for anything usfull other than papers or a map or somthing.  Most GIs know you dont keep your smokes in you inside pocket underneith a flack jacket or they will get smashed.  

Like I said earlier it sounds very funcitonal.
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Post by: Pongo on June 15, 2004, 10:00:09 AM
Honestly. Looks like a natural extension of the policy of wearing body armour 24/7 to me. Ya there are not enough pockets but if your wearing armour you cant get to all those mag pockets that were on the old uniforms anyway. And holding a prone fire position when your hip and chest buttons are digging into the chest armour for 40 minutes was a drag.  If you have to go lite for some reason and leave your webbing..not alot of places to stuff mags and food but how often do you do that?
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Post by: TheDudeDVant on June 15, 2004, 10:49:25 AM
Looks french to me.. 8)
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Post by: Reschke on June 15, 2004, 12:40:37 PM
The stupidest thing I have ever seen was some Ranger wannabe's who had the big OD Green velcro top watch band covers. We were on an FTX in ROTC and these DA's thought they were hot s*** because they had "all the right kit" to quote one of them. These dweebs had basically bought out the US Cavalry magazine to get to looking so cool.

To make a long story short; the ambush we had on them was about screwed up because of where they came walking in was not what we had expected due to a radio failure from our scout element. Anyway we got tipped off on the mixup by two of the dweebs pulling the velcro on their watch bands to check the time. When they did that all we did was rotate our guys 180 and ease up in a slow crawl about 2 meters to where we could see them. We opened up with our two 60's and grenade simulators and had the whole patrol declared dead.

All this from a bunch of first year ROTC cadets in faded ripstop woodland camo fatigues with floppy hats and jungle boots.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 15, 2004, 01:08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
You should be greatful!  That camoflage will help save American lives.


I am greatful! $7.32 was a great deal!
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Post by: Charon on June 15, 2004, 01:16:57 PM
I'm not sure I read it right (even rereading it). Are there three camo color pallets or just an all-in-one? My biggest ***** is the gray color scheme. No more "Army Green..." Looks too bright for woodland environments and too out of place for the desert. Also, the buildings in Iraq "seem" to reflect more yellow/orange. Looks like a good urban uniform for Manhattan.

Yeah Fishu, the M-8 has significantly improved action, I just seem to fall into the "need a bigger round" category. And, it just looks too "space age" with too many space age swappable features that shows how old and set in my ways I've become :)

Charon
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Post by: Pongo on June 15, 2004, 03:08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Reschke
The stupidest thing I have ever seen was some Ranger wannabe's who had the big OD Green velcro top watch band covers. We were on an FTX in ROTC and these DA's thought they were hot s*** because they had "all the right kit" to quote one of them. These dweebs had basically bought out the US Cavalry magazine to get to looking so cool.

To make a long story short; the ambush we had on them was about screwed up because of where they came walking in was not what we had expected due to a radio failure from our scout element. Anyway we got tipped off on the mixup by two of the dweebs pulling the velcro on their watch bands to check the time. When they did that all we did was rotate our guys 180 and ease up in a slow crawl about 2 meters to where we could see them. We opened up with our two 60's and grenade simulators and had the whole patrol declared dead.

All this from a bunch of first year ROTC cadets in faded ripstop woodland camo fatigues with floppy hats and jungle boots.


Cool story. Every been to Ft Sherman(Panama)?
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Post by: Reschke on June 15, 2004, 03:41:05 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Cool story. Every been to Ft Sherman(Panama)?


Didn't continue on with the ROTC commisioning process after my second year. I was given an ultimatum by the Colonel (former Viet Nam SF guy) in charge of the ROTC program when I was in junior college...WELL being a hard headed college football player I chose to stay with playing football rather than pursue my commission as a 2nd Lt. I had two people yelling at me that day one was the Colonel  and the other was my Dad (career Army) who started *****ing at me that night when he called me from Saudi Arabia to see what I decided. If I would have taken the ROTC slot I was scheduled for Jump school at Ft. Benning and Mountain Warfare school that summer.

The only two people on my side in the matter were my head football coach and my Grandad (my Dad's father & WW2 US Army vet from SWPAC Theater). So for the first time since way back in the 1700's (as far as I can trace) my immediate family doesn't have a member in some nations armed forces.
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Post by: bigsky on June 15, 2004, 08:09:20 PM
velcro closures??? what next bubblewrap boot soles. the only thing louder would be using cowbells for dog tags. oh well, like the saying goes; there are two ways to do anything, the right way and the army way.