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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chairboy on June 15, 2004, 11:42:51 AM
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An interesting review, for anyone interested in the film:
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,122678,00.html
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great review!:aok
can't wait to see it in a couple weeks!
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damn liberal network ;)
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WOW! That is the first "Fair and Balanced" story I've seen from FauxNews. Kudos to FNC.
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Originally posted by rpm371
WOW! That is the first "Fair and Balanced" story I've seen from FauxNews. Kudos to FNC.
ditto
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A film maker sinks a president...Hail cinema!!
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daisy+chain&f=1
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Umm, not a bad read
But...
Roger Friedman is more into worshipping Streissand and whose party was best over the weekend. Read his previous columns. I wouldnt attribute any sort of Conservative label on him. He's out there covering the beautiful people and telling us about the life we wish we could have if we were good enough. His 411 is interesting if you follow the various scandals, like Michael Jackson, etc
Heh...when I read his column, I always hear that Mr Hallowell voice (Rich socialite that was in "Gilligan's Island) :)
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Let the debunking of Fox News begin!!!! :D
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Originally posted by LePaul
Heh...when I read his column, I always hear that Mr Hallowell voice (Rich socialite that was in "Gilligan's Island) :)
LePaul...I'm shocked! His name was Thurston Howell III.
"Oh, Lovey!"
(http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/09/13/thurston.jpg)
Howell, Thurston III
Age: 60
Source: Howell Industries
Net Worth: $8 Billion
Hometown: Pacific Island
Marital Status: Married, no children
Eccentric Harvard grad fled U.S. on eve of indictment on accounting fraud charges. Rumored to be living on private island in Pacific with wife Lovey and skeletal staff of trusted associates. Known for his bare-knuckled boardroom style, despite socialite manners. Once said that anyone believing a businessman should refuse to resort to thievery is simply "naïve." Congressmen and prosecutors looking to drag him home to ask him what he meant. Member of Forbes Fictional Fifteen since 1964.
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lol...when was the last time I thought of them?
(http://www.aloha.com/~lifeguards/malihini.jpg)
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lol..watchin all the Bush-Babies run for cover..Hey,It's only a film..:D
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daisy+chain&f=1
Butt..Aren't you the one that said"...really..We really shouldn't have invaded Iraq without a UN resolution.."
:rolleyes:
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LOL funked, that is just about perfect, but everyone on this thread is a dude.....
That image is disturbing....
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hehe. Fox sends the society/gossip specialist to go review a movie. Hell he talked more about who was at the release party than the movie itself.
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I hate what they have done to foxnews.com. The order in which they now have things arranged on the web site makes no sense at all.
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no it's not slanted.
"F9/11" isn't perfect, and of course, there are leaps of logic sometimes. One set piece is about African American congressmen and women voting against the war with Iraq and wondering why there are no Senators to support them. Indeed, those absent senators include .John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Ted Kennedy, among others, which Moore does not elaborate upon. At no point are liberals or Democrats taken to task for not speaking out against the war, and I would have liked to have seen that
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daisy+chain&f=1
Did anyone read the sample sentence?
"hey mandy" cried out reinhard "come and join this daisy chain, we're just about to pop."
:D
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So making fun of homos exempts you from being a cornhole?
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"The film's images include a public beheading in Saudi Arabia, Iraqis burned by napalm and a grisly scene of an Iraqi man dumping a dead baby into a truckbed loaded with bodies. "
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040615/ap_en_ot/film_fahrenheit_911_8
Didn't think we were using napalm anymore.....
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find it humorous moore is complaining about the "R" rating
think's children should go see his film ...
trying to start the brainwashing early ... LOL
(http://www.dynamictruth.com/enemies/michaelmoore2.jpg)
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Hows your brainwashing going Eagler?
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Originally posted by Pongo
Hows your brainwashing going Eagler?
who rattled ur cage?
oh forgot, we are talking bad about ur mentor LOL
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Ahh the zany liberals and their new mantra, November is coming the pendulum swings.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Hows your brainwashing going Eagler?
I've always suspected they scrubbed a little too hard on that one. ;)
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On the other hand, there are more than enough moments that seemed to resonate with the huge Ziegfeld audience. The most indelible is President Bush's reaction to hearing on the morning of September 11, 2001, that the first plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. Bush was reading to a grade school class in Florida at that moment. Instead of jumping up and leaving, he instead sat in front of the class, with an unfortunate look of confusion, for nearly 11 minutes. Moore obtained the footage from a teacher at the school who videotaped the morning program. There Bush sits, with no access to his advisers, while New York is being viciously attacked. I guarantee you that no one who sees this film forgets this episode
Of all things this is one that tops the list of stuff that pisses me off. On 9/11 we did not know we were under "attack" untill the second plane hit the tower. Librals want to make a big deal that bush was reading to school children at the time....like that was such a hanus act.
Anyhow....I'll see the film and take it w/ a grain of salt. Like you librals say considering the source what would you expect.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Of all things this is one that tops the list of stuff that pisses me off. On 9/11 we did not know we were under "attack" untill the second plane hit the tower. Librals want to make a big deal that bush was reading to school children at the time....like that was such a hanus act.
Anyhow....I'll see the film and take it w/ a grain of salt. Like you librals say considering the source what would you expect.
I'll see it when it comes on at 0400 on IFC. no way that gelatinous mass of communisitically laden latent homosexual tendencies is getting one cent of my money.
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Eagler. Why would you get offended if someone calls you brainwashed when you just called over half the population brainwashed? Conservilatives can call people names and do it with a clear mind..Call them brainwashed and its some kind of attack.
strange.
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wonder what kerry was doing for 11 minutes after the attack... he probly figured out right away it was an attack and being a congresman he was calling his governor to help in any way he could to help with the fight right? probly calling in and aranging for a transportation to the emergency meeting of congress he was organizing? Or maybe just arranging transportation for the meeting he knew must surely come?
lazs
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Originally posted by Pongo
Eagler. Why would you get offended if someone calls you brainwashed when you just called over half the population brainwashed? Conservilatives can call people names and do it with a clear mind..Call them brainwashed and its some kind of attack.
strange.
pongo
who is talkin to you? I am not ...
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Originally posted by Eagler
pongo
who is talkin to you? I am not ... bzzzt
I am not ... bzzzt
I am not ... bzzzt
I am not ... bzzzt
:cool:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
:cool:
funny bro :)
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I've always suspected they scrubbed a little too hard on that one. ;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by lazs2
wonder what kerry was doing for 11 minutes after the attack... he probly figured out right away it was an attack and being a congresman he was calling his governor to help in any way he could to help with the fight right? probly calling in and aranging for a transportation to the emergency meeting of congress he was organizing? Or maybe just arranging transportation for the meeting he knew must surely come?
lazs
Conservitiles cant decide from one day to the next and one thread to the next whether Bushes poor record is a good reason to vote Kerry or not. Here we have a conservitile saying that
Bush did bad..but Kerry might have done the same thing.Like any reasonable person would have babbled on with drool dripping out of his mouth for 11 minutes while his country sustained its most severe attack in history.
reality check Anyone could have done better. Powell, Chenny, Ruhmsfeld, either Clinton, hell lazs you would have done better.
That is Bush.
We all know that Bush cant even respond to an unscripted question so why the suprise that he cant respond to an unscripted attack? The man is an idiot. He thinks slowly and poorly and his speach reflects that disability.
Besides. it was the first novel he had read since Old Yeller and he wanted to see how it ended. Maybe chenny finished reading it to him on Air Force One.
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Originally posted by Pongo
reality check Anyone could have done better. Powell, Chenny, Ruhmsfeld, either Clinton, hell lazs you would have done better.
That is Bush.
I'm not sure he did much of anything...Here's how I break it down.
Bush:Puppet Pres
Ruhmsfeld:The party whip who didn't resign
Powell:A great man caught in the crossfire of politics
Chenny:The man who brought us all the "Pre-emptive strike" doctrine
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Originally posted by Eagler
trying to start the brainwashing early ... LOL
Seems to work for the tobacco industry....:lol
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Originally posted by Pongo
Conservitiles cant decide from one day to the next and one thread to the next whether Bushes poor record is a good reason to vote Kerry or not. Here we have a conservitile saying that
Bush did bad..but Kerry might have done the same thing.Like any reasonable person would have babbled on with drool dripping out of his mouth for 11 minutes while his country sustained its most severe attack in history.
reality check Anyone could have done better. Powell, Chenny, Ruhmsfeld, either Clinton, hell lazs you would have done better.
That is Bush.
We all know that Bush cant even respond to an unscripted question so why the suprise that he cant respond to an unscripted attack? The man is an idiot. He thinks slowly and poorly and his speach reflects that disability.
Besides. it was the first novel he had read since Old Yeller and he wanted to see how it ended. Maybe chenny finished reading it to him on Air Force One.
and I suppose you were not like the rest of the world...YOU KNEW unlike EVERYONE ELSE in the first 11 minutes that it was an ATTACK....YOU did not have to wait for the second plane to hit.
And who says this guy is a conservative.....he's a columnist....not a journalist. I thank God at least once a week that Al Gore did not win the election.....I cant even fathom his response....He'd probably appologize to the terrorists and ask them nicely to stop.
Clinton would have just lobbed a few more cruise missles and then bombed a few Iraqi anti aircraft missle sites.
Keep making a mountain out of a molehill
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Actually.
I dont know why I turned on the news that morning. I dont often. They were reporting the first hit and I called my sons to see the news.
how the hell can that happen accidentally i asked them.
I didnt get everyone to the basement..I didnt black out the windows. But I didnt go about brushing my teeth either. And Im not the president of the United States.
The man did nothing.
Dont make it seem like the danger of airliners as weapons had never been thought of before. It was well known and documented.
The man did nothing. It is pathetic. Its repulsive. Like he wasnt even curios. Defend him all you want. If it had been a liberal you would be roasting him for it. Over a slow fire and forever.
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And your right. Bushes intelligence, honesty and leadership are all mole hills. I agree. What are those things smaller then moles?
Voles? Little mouse things..do they have hills? Thats bushes capabilities right there.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Actually.
I dont know why I turned on the news that morning. I dont often. They were reporting the first hit and I called my sons to see the news.
how the hell can that happen accidentally i asked them.
I didnt get everyone to the basement..I didnt black out the windows. But I didnt go about brushing my teeth either. And Im not the president of the United States.
The man did nothing.
Dont make it seem like the danger of airliners as weapons had never been thought of before. It was well known and documented.
The man did nothing. It is pathetic. Its repulsive. Like he wasnt even curios. Defend him all you want. If it had been a liberal you would be roasting him for it. Over a slow fire and forever.
"Mr. President a plane just crashed into one of the WTC towers...we'll let you know when we have more info"
Why would he need to do anything after that.
11minutes later
"Mr. president a second plane crashed into the WTC we beleive we are under a terrorist attack"
Time for action.
Keep digging my friend
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pongo
why do you care?
I do not know who runs ur country nor do I care...
do you think ur opinion means anything to someone living in the states?
save your breath
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Well documented? As in Douglas Adams' definition of "on display"? Hmm.
If I was the Prez and I heard about a plane crashing into a building, I would have donned my firesuit (the one with the big S on the front) and rushed to the scene with a hose and a bucket. It's what the Prez is SUPPOSED to do!
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Originally posted by Eagler
pongo
why do you care?
I do not know who runs ur country nor do I care...
do you think ur opinion means anything to someone living in the states?
save your breath
And we wonder why people from around the world want to kill us?
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Originally posted by Eagler
pongo
why do you care?
I do not know who runs ur country nor do I care...
do you think ur opinion means anything to someone living in the states?
save your breath
who runs my country doesnt impact the lives and liberty of the rest of the world. Maybe if you stopped global power projection people would stop carring who had their finger on the trigger.
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Originally posted by rpm371
And we wonder why people from around the world want to kill us?
or why we want to kill ppl around the world :)
you can get a grip too rpm...
po-go
what happens in your country doesn't impact anything, as is the fact of many here who slam the US - some sort of envy as far as I can figure
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Originally posted by Pongo
who runs my country doesnt impact the lives and liberty of the rest of the world. Maybe if you stopped global power projection people would stop carring who had their finger on the trigger.
I believe you are suffering an identity crisis. Come become a naturalized American and participate. We take just about anyone the proof is that we accepted me. :)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
"Mr. President a plane just crashed into one of the WTC towers...we'll let you know when we have more info"
Why would he need to do anything after that.
11minutes later
"Mr. president a second plane crashed into the WTC we beleive we are under a terrorist attack"
Time for action.
Keep digging my friend
Keep digging? How long do you think these 2 planes were being tracked before they impacted the WTCs?? Have you done any reading on protocal for airliners that unexpectedly divert from their normal flight path?? Notice I wrote 2, not 1.. There is a protocal and it goes very high in the chain of command.. With 2 planes diverted and essentially out of control, it could be known as fact the country was under attack after the first impact.. Infact, many high level officals were following protocal that day. Many were not.. This is just ignoring the 3rd and 4th planes..
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Eagler, did you ever wonder what got that hate cycle started? I'm more concerned with finding a way to turn it off.
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Pongo, that whole psuedo-issue of what the President did during the first few minutes of the 9-1-1 attack never was of any significance. The Bush administration's decisive response to the terrorist attack is prima facie evidence.
I think you got out all the juice to be had in the first week it hit the internet, and that was months ago. Isn't it about time to pull that wad of of used gum out of your mouth and stick it on the bedpost? Or are you trying to make it last until November??
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Originally posted by Eagler
or why we want to kill ppl around the world :)
you can get a grip too rpm...
po-go
what happens in your country doesn't impact anything, as is the fact of many here who slam the US - some sort of envy as far as I can figure
eagler. Why are you so confused then why people care what leader you chose?
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Originally posted by Gunthr
Pongo, that whole psuedo-issue of what the President did during the first few minutes of the 9-1-1 attack never was of any significance. The Bush administration's decisive response to the terrorist attack is prima facie evidence.
I think you got out all the juice to be had in the first week it hit the internet, and that was months ago. Isn't it about time to pull that wad of of used gum out of your mouth and stick it on the bedpost? Or are you trying to make it last until November??
I think it has longer legs then you give it credit for. Some people do care that Bush left the US so open to attack and then responded like a slack jawed idiot when it happend.
If you dont care then thats your issue.
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who is confused? besides you ....
Gunthr - they rather talk about that than the actions Bush took including grounding the entire airline fleet which prevented additional attacks
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Originally posted by Eagler
who is confused? besides you ....
Gunthr - they rather talk about that than the actions Bush took including grounding the entire airline fleet which prevented additional attacks
I wonder if he had acted quicker...
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ya they made most of the overseas ones divert to canada. go figure.
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ya they made most of the overseas ones divert to canada. go figure. - Pongo
Not too hard to figure out :lol
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Originally posted by rpm371
I wonder if he had acted quicker...
and let me guess - shot one down???
I can hear the left howling about that one even louder...
you guys are 20/20 hindsight experts aren't you..
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Some people do care that Bush left the US so open to attack
Stop spewing non-sensical bull**** w/ no basis in fact.
How exactly did Bush leave the U.S so wide open to attack?
You are as tranparent as they come: another limp dicked liberal firing outrageous insults at a wall, seeing what sticks and what people are willing to ignore.
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Originally posted by Eagler
and let me guess - shot one down???
I can hear the left howling about that one even louder...
you guys are 20/20 hindsight experts aren't you..
The sad thing is we will never know if any lives could have been saved because he stayed to find out if Curious George found his way home to the Man in the Big Yellow Hat.
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Originally posted by rpm371
The sad thing is we will never know if any lives could have been saved because he stayed to find out if Curious George found his way home to the Man in the Big Yellow Hat.
anything else and the cry from the lefties would be that he "panicked!"
face it, he can do no right - everything he does is wrong and grates on your last nerve
face it, you only have four years and 5 months more to whine about him - LOL
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why did boosh say (on video tape, in front of a live audience) that he saw the first plane go into WTC tower #1 and THEN go speak to the kids?
If you remember, that tape of the first plane crash did not surface until the 12th.
I'm guessing you brainiacs haven't seen this little gem (yet)?
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Originally posted by Eagler
anything else and the cry from the lefties would be that he "panicked!"
face it, he can do no right - everything he does is wrong and grates on your last nerve....
you're right the left always cries "Foul Ball" about Bush.... and the Right always cries "Good". That's why the politics in america are so screwed up. The prosperity of the parties are put before the prosperity of the country.
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why did boosh say (on video tape, in front of a live audience) that he saw the first plane go into WTC tower #1 and THEN go speak to the kids?
I hadn't heard this, please refer me to the link.
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how exactly is a president supossed to react to an airliner crashing into a building? How bout a train derailment? your aunt fanny crashing into a bridge abutmant in her prius?
3 different children all drowning in 5 gallon bucket in their own backyards all in the same day?
lazs
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Steve your hurting my feelings you brain dead narrow minded conservilative.
Have you looked into what bush knew or aught to have known at all? or are you just being a retarded idiot?
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Pongo. I have to agr... agre.... agree with the republiclowns on this one. The 11 minute lag time is pretty much a non-issue AFAIC. Confusion reigned, and I think anyone would have had to take a "wait and see" stance for a short time anyway.
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Originally posted by lazs2
how exactly is a president supossed to react to an airliner crashing into a building? How bout a train derailment? your aunt fanny crashing into a bridge abutmant in her prius?
3 different children all drowning in 5 gallon bucket in their own backyards all in the same day?
lazs
Probably find some way to blame it on Clinton and the liberal media...:lol
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Probably find some way to blame it on Clinton and the liberal media...:lol
Well, now that you mentioned it....
If only Slick hadn't bombed those baby food and aspirin factories the babies wouldn't have cried and the parents might not have been so grumpy without the headaches.
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Originally posted by lazs2
how exactly is a president supossed to react to an airliner crashing into a building? How bout a train derailment? your aunt fanny crashing into a bridge abutmant in her prius?
3 different children all drowning in 5 gallon bucket in their own backyards all in the same day?
lazs
He's suppossed to say something that makes us FEEL better about it all :p
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Pongo. I have to agr... agre.... agree with the republiclowns on this one. The 11 minute lag time is pretty much a non-issue AFAIC. Confusion reigned, and I think anyone would have had to take a "wait and see" stance for a short time anyway.
Then your worse then them! Hey if it doenst bother some people that he is so slow on the uptake. Thats fine. But that doenst make him less slow on the uptake.
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Steve your hurting my feelings you brain dead narrow minded conservilative.
Answer my question, plowhead. Here, let me repeat it for you.
How exactly did Bush leave the U.S so wide open to attack?
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Originally posted by Steve
I hadn't heard this, please refer me to the link.
I have seen this video clip 3 times now...the most recent just this past week when our CBC TV network aired a show called the 5th Estate (repeated by request). I also saw it once on US TV.
here is one link...referring to CNN etc (read for yourself)
Source (http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/bush_911am.htm)
It is about half the way down this long page under the column heading: BUSH
(9:01 a.m.)
Exceprt:
Bush later makes the following statement: "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.' But I was whisked off there - I didn't have much time to think about it."
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Originally posted by Pongo
Actually.
I dont know why I turned on the news that morning. I dont often. They were reporting the first hit and I called my sons to see the news.
how the hell can that happen accidentally i asked them.
I didnt get everyone to the basement..I didnt black out the windows. But I didnt go about brushing my teeth either. And Im not the president of the United States.
The man did nothing.
Dont make it seem like the danger of airliners as weapons had never been thought of before. It was well known and documented.
The man did nothing. It is pathetic. Its repulsive. Like he wasnt even curios. Defend him all you want. If it had been a liberal you would be roasting him for it. Over a slow fire and forever.
ya jump up and scare the hell out of the 8 year-olds he was sitting with.
He has a military staff whom were monitoring the situation. Beside correct me if I'm wrong but how long does it take to scramble an intercepter? to take down the second plane, He had only 11 minitues to get it up and to the plane that he didn't know exsisted or were it was going?
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August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Brief: Bin Ladin determined to strike the US
What actions were taken by Bush in response? Apparently, not very much.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Then your worse then them! Hey if it doenst bother some people that he is so slow on the uptake. Thats fine. But that doenst make him less slow on the uptake.
hmmmm, let me put it another way.
Of course he's stupid, but the 11 minute lag isn't evidence of that stupidity.
Seawater is undrinkable, but the fact that it shimmers at sunset don't make it poison.
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thought the paraniod left said it was the CIA that flew the planes into the WTC so bush could occupy iraq and we could pay record prices for gas so he and his oil buds could get richer faster
wonder what he'll get the CIA to do in the last weeks in Oct to insure an election victory in Nov ... :rolleyes:
some of you are overdue for your meds..
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Nevermind...
I thought he was reading to the kids when the 1st plane hit. The timeline indicates that he knew about the first plane when the aid whispers in his ear about the second plane.
You're right Pongo... he waited way too long.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Nevermind...
I thought he was reading to the kids when the 1st plane hit. The timeline indicates that he knew about the first plane when the aid whispers in his ear about the second plane.
You're right Pongo... he waited way too long.
at which point he knew for certain it was a terrorist act
before the second one, 99.9% of the pop was not thinking terrorism
if you want a real 9/11 time line - Look HERE (http://www.billstclair.com/911timeline/main/timelinecomplete1.html)
of course this rolls back into the previous admin so the left will not bother with the facts
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Originally posted by Eagler
at which point he knew for certain it was a terrorist act
before the second one, 99.9% of the pop was not thinking terrorism
Exactly.. so why wait 11 minutes after he was "certain" we were under attack?
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from the mouths of babes..
"There is one terrible pilot." lol
What he had to do was show a pulse guys..
Its connecting the dots. Airliner. WTC. Massive potential loss of life. One of the most prominent landmarks in America or the world. How the hell could he walk away from the TV for a readalong.
Easy..Hes a mental midget and his handlers hadnt pulled his strings the right way yet.
if you cant respond effectively in a crisis because of the presence of some 8 year olds what does that say about you as a leader?
The second I saw it I imediatly stopped packing for work etc. How could he not respond the same way? Thats why people are so fasinated with this issue. Its says so much about Bush.
Its why he keeps well out of the public eye except in very very controlled instances. Cause he is stupid and it becomes self evident if hes observed directly for very long.
All hail the chief.
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dang po-go
if we just had half ur brains we'd be alright ...
yep - the leader of the strongest country in the the free world, the envy of the rest of the world, is "dumb as rocks" .. okie dokie - gotcha :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Exactly.. so why wait 11 minutes after he was "certain" we were under attack?
because it was handled? do you think they all stood around in DC playing pocket pool because he wasn't in town or on the phone with giving instructions? Somethings are automatic...
and I guess the same group wonders why he didnt fly straight back to DC, right?
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Its not all the things he didnt do Beagler. Its what he did do.
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I can't fault the guy for his immediate actions on this.
WTF is he gonna do? Jump up, pull out his executive pen and immediately go into action writing up new legislation that outlaws terrible accidents forever?
He has people that were on this and nobody really knew what was going on at that time. So he waited, confused like everyone else, for his people to do thier jobs.
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If I were pres when it happened I woulda said.. "keep me informed" and finished reading to the kids, pretended all was well and excused myself early..... If I were liberal and the pres I might have broke out into hysterical screaming sobs and shouted to the kids "you are all going to die!"
Bush has kids of his own.. he reacted like an adult IMO.
I think this "october surprise" is gonna be a real dissappointment to the lefties... I think they have about shot their wad. I was wondering what the last minute lies would be but I don't think they really have anything compelling.
lazs
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Originally posted by Steve
You are as tranparent as they come: another limp dicked liberal
Originally posted by Steve
Answer my question, plowhead.
Is this board even moderated any more?
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Well...first you gotta define "moderated" and then look at whose doing the said moderating....
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Whats that ice cracking sound I hear? lol
But the day that AH2 goes live isnt the time to expect Skuzzy to be busy babysitting us.
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Is this board even moderated any more?
Need a towel? Your nose is running from all that whining.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Well, now that you mentioned it....
If only Slick hadn't ...
The prosecution rests...:)
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Originally posted by Steve
Need a towel? Your nose is running from all that whining.
I don't care, your little personal attacks weren't directed at me at me anyway. I just want to know the rules.