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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: BTAirsol on June 15, 2004, 12:09:07 PM
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I'm currently running a Dell Dimensions 4100 with Windows ME. The Video card is an ATI 16 MB Ragepro 128. Can you advise what card would work on my system for AH2? I checked the Dell video support and got several choices; nvidia 32mb geforce2 mx, or 64mb geforce2 GTS or Ultra?
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ignore the dell support those cards are at the bottem of the pool and wont play ah2 .
you could get by with a gf 2 mx 400 64 mb .
but id suggest at least a fx 5200 128 mb providing that you have an AGP port . you need to open the case and look .
A fx 5600 or ati 9550 / 9600 would be better .
some system spec's would be nice to know too , cpu size ,ram amount, operating system.
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My system specs:
Windows ME 4.90
Intel Pentium III 860mhz
128 MB Ram
I have AGP Port.
4X on graphic
Will the FX 5200/5600 run on this?
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oh yea drop a 5600 in it if thats in your budget ... that way when you upgrade later you'll have a pritty decent card for the new system later
i would add some ram too, 128 is alittle low n slow
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Thanks, but I have a stupid question. My AGP is 4X and isn't the FX5600 8X? how can this be compatable or does the upgrade on cpu from 128 to 512 take care of this?
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The bottleneck is gonna be you're CPU, The performance gain going from 4x to 8x AGP is not that much anyway and with your current CPU you wont even be using the full potential of 4X.
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I may be wrong, but I think most 8x cards are backwards compatible all the way to 1x AGP slots.
DJ229 - AIR MAFIA
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the ram upgrade will give it more memory for running programs and your pc's basic operating stuff (the more stuff you have running in the start up the more memory you will need )
AE win 98 needs 32mbs of ram to run
win me uses from 32 - 56 mbs to run
win XP uses 96-120 mbs to run
mainboards with onboard video use 32-64mbs of this ram also .
add a antivirous program and a firewall there goes anouther 5-30mbs .
without enough ram when you start larger programs they fill up your ram and have to wait for the ram to refresh or they just lock up your pc .
the 8x video cards run in 4x mode when thats all the mainboard is set up for , you get some performance loss but its not that big of a deal .
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Hello Roscoroo :)
Presently I'm unable to play AH2 as the msg states I don't have Hardware T & L. :p My computer specs are as follows:
Dell Dimension 4300 Windows XP Home Edition
Video: 16MB ATI RAGE 128 ULTRA
MaxRes: @16bit @ 75Hz
Chip Type: RAGE 128 PRO II (AGP4X/PCI)
DirectX9.0b
RAM: 256MB
PROCESSOR: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1600MHz
Planning to purchase & install (first timer):
ATI Radeon 9600/325MHz 128MB DDR/400MHz
Bus: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
MaxRes: @32bitColor 2048X1536 @ 85Hz
Support 3D API. DirectX9.0 OpenGL 2.0
Would this Video Card be able to run AH2? Is this a good deal?
Thx for ur assist & advice ;)
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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Yes Happy that card will run AH2 just great .
also check out the 9600 pro card its been on sale alot for 99- 130 dollars . (its a little faster )
Now i have a 9600 pro in my pc @ work and it plays ah2 just fine
the only thing i notice is it has a little lower fps then my ti4600
But then again it may have to do with the old 21 in monitor that i run with it . (its about 15 fps less in a furball )
amd 2500+ oced on water cooling
1 gig ram
9600 pro cat 4.5 drivers dx 9.0b (i think the fps was better w/ 4.3's but ah2 was still freezing back then its way better now)
dual 36 gig scsi hd's
80 gig storage hd
10 gig hd with xp on it (getting close to dumping this and running linux on it instead just for the hell of it )
98se w/ sp 1.5 is the normal os
Auto cad 2004 (thanks Boss )
so in my opinion the 9600 card runs just fine but i think the nvidia based cards have a small edge still in ah2 .
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I am on the verge of buying a graphics card to run AH2 but i have no clue when it comes to things like that.
What would be best for my system?
E-Machines 160
Intel celeron 1.3ghz
40gb Hard drive
384mb sdram
3D AGP Graphics, Intel direct AGP
Thanks Guys :aok
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Say hey Roscoroo :) Thx ever so much for ur promptness in replying to my queries. That was exactly the kind of info I needed
to know to make an educated purchase, which I might add that I did buy the ATI Radeon 9600/325MHz 128MB DDR, an hour ago :D
from http://www.atacom.com for $89.95 + tax + S&H. Molto Grazie
;)
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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Originally posted by A1000
I am on the verge of buying a graphics card to run AH2 but i have no clue when it comes to things like that.
What would be best for my system?
E-Machines 160
Intel celeron 1.3ghz
40gb Hard drive
384mb sdram
3D AGP Graphics, Intel direct AGP
Thanks Guys :aok
open up your case and check to see if you have an AGP slot (ussually brown and and offset alittle more forward from the white pci slots)
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Ok, I've been to the stores locally and now have purchased 2 new video cards based on advice Ive gotten either here in the BBS or online in the game. Neither card has worked for me and before I go and have another knockdown/dragout fight with a store clerk to get my money back and try something else, maybe someone can give me some advice that works? Here goes.
I have a homemade system running a 1.5 Ghz Athalon processor (1800 XP+). 512 MB of DDR RAM (2700 series), SB 5.1 Live! Soundcard, and a Nvidia GeForce MX440 64MB video card (4xAGP).
Win98SE, and (possible suspect) 300W power supply.
This setup WILL run AHII.........but only with everything video-wise turned way down and heaven forbid I actually want to fight someone. Framerates drop into the toilet. And yes, I downloaded the newest drivers from Nvidia (5-2004). So, I thought, I've had the video card for about a year, no real harm in upgrading. I saw advice in the BBS that steered me away from any Radeon based cards, and reccomended the Nvidia ones. Since I already had one, simple matter to buy a newer version with more RAM and a hotter processor. So I bought the FX5700. Installed it, and AHII still ran like crap. Matter of fact, it ran worse. It would have a slight freeze and then give a staticky "pop" and surge forward. Almost made me ill watching it. So I asked for help, figuring maybe I missed something on the install or setup. Then I hear people telling me how bad the FX series cards are and no wonder it wont work and blah blah blah. GREAT. I just blew 200 bucks for someone to tell me I was stupid. Even the people who didnt agree with the assessment couldnt help me. So I took the card back, argued with the store and got my money back (since all they sold were FX based Nvidia cards and ATI Radeon cards). Went to the gamer's store downtown, found a deal on an MX4000 card with 128MB of RAM. Bring it home, install all the drivers, make sure everythign is working right, and try to play AHII. Now the game reboots my comptuer when I try to launch from the runway!! If anyone can come up with something, I'd love to hear it. Oh, and the icing on the cake............while sitting in the tower, my fps on this new MX4000 are in the 20s. Even my 440 does better than that. Thanks.
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here is mine:
HP Pavilion 061
Intel Celeron CPU 2.70 Ghz
246 MB RAM
DirectX 9.0b
Intel Corp.
Intel 82845G Graphics Controller
64 MB
is this chip ghetto? i used get somewhere a long time ago on the Beta, as the beta version number got higher i ran into the ground. Now when i try to run AH2, it says that my video adapter wont run it. Now im not at all smart with computers, can someone help me figure it out?
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Here's a good place to see how the card you have (or plan to get) ranks with other cards:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html
Be sure to check this out also:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-02.html
^^That's the info on the system they used while testing.
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when i try runnig ah2 it says d3d9.dll not found what does it mean :( :confused:
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UPDATE TO PREVIOUS POST
Went back to the MX440 card, so I could at least play the game, even if not fully enjoyably. Only problem is, now I cant. Every time I go to takeoff from a runway, the computer reboots. The only variation I have had to this, is twice the screen slowly filled from the bottom to the top with small squares like a rising curtain and once it reached the top, THEN the computer rebooted. I have tried erasing and uninstalling the old drivers, reinstalling the zip files of the older drivers and installing everything up to the point I installed the MX4000 card drivers, leaving them out. Still the same response. I have tried disabling the AGP 4x control in the CMOS, no luck. I have tried different refresh rates all the way down to 42hz with no changes. Always it is the same. Everything is fine even up to me sitting on the runway looking around. At that point I can still use the radio, exit back to the tower, and I can even start and stop the engine. But once the engine stops cranking and is actually at full run, the screen goes black and the computer reboots. The furthest I have gotten is about 2 seconds of rolling down the runway. Usually I dont even get to see things move. Since this came on with the last video card install I tried, I cant tell if this is a separate problem from the video problems, new..............or if it is tied directly to what I have installed and now I cant change it back. I have even tried reinstalling the game just in case I somehow corrupted a file. My last option, that I am about to begin now, is to totally delete the AHII folder and reinstall again, hoping that will kill anything that might be lurking in the folders and give me a clean install.
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the only thing that i want to know is why would you produce a game that no one can play...unless you were to make money off of that massive upgrades~~ :mad:
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NEW UPDATE TO PREVIOUS POSTS
Still no luck, although I have had one change. Now sometimes instead of just causing the computer to reboot, I can start the engine of my "vehicle" (airplane or GV either one), and the second the engine begins to actually "run", the computer locks up. I just sit there, with the sound of the engine running on the speakers, but the game is frozen, the keyboard is frozen, the mouse is frozen............It happens once the computer recognizes the engine as being "running", or in other words, the code recognizes the potential for movement. Since there is no potential to go anywhere until the engine is completely started, the "cranking" is just for show. Once the engine is running, and the program code recognizes a change in status, I get a reaction. Any ideas?
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Originally posted by pr3dat0r
when i try runnig ah2 it says d3d9.dll not found what does it mean :( :confused:
Pr3dat0r, that's the message you get if you don't have DX9 installed - to get it, go here: http://www.microsoft.com/directx
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ok guys /gals ..
your getting stutters or reboots / crash top desktops ect ....
1st have you checked for virouses ???? it only takes a sec to catch one on a hi-speed connect .
if you have the knowledge and a backed up data base have you tried a fresh format after a new video card install ?
and or did you refresh your dxdiag file afterwards ?
are your drivers correct ?is there hard ware conflicts ? how do the other games play ?
as in any good troble shooting it best to start with a good working baseline (same setup and hardware/software ) that worked , then go to the mods .... when they dont work then you go back to the baseline ... now if that doesnt work then that means something else is messed up ... most likely not the video card , but the software/drivers/setup . unless you forgot to plug something in ect.
a quick note on the stutter's / freezes ... i've gotten this on all my pc's until ive played the game for awhile ... and i still get them now and then when a new skin is flown near me or a graphic change is present ... It does go away after a short time .
Beta machines ...
1.0ghz amd
gf2 mx 400 64mb
256 ram win 98se dx 9.0b 56.xx drivers
1.3 ghz amd
gf2 mx 400 64 mb (abit siluro card ) dx 9.0b 56.45 drivers
512 ram
win 98se sp1.5
2500+ amd oced to 2.2ghz
TI 4600 128 dx 9.0b 56.45 drivers (also ran a 9600 pro here )
512 x 2 ram
win 98se sp 1.5 and xp home ed .
also tested a 800 mhz w/ a gf 4 mx440 machine
along with testing a 9600 pro and a 9500 card in various machines
I managed to get ah2 to play on all the machines ... note a few beta's were a mess and ah still stutters and ctds now and then but it isnt unplayable.
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I wondered about this too. I have no problem playing any of my other games, and a couple are pretty graphics intense. Only other odd thing I have noted, is that sometimes after quite awhile working on the comp, it will just shut off and not restart for some time. I'm assuming this is a temperature problem. Even with 2 case fans, double RPM fan on the processor, and one on the video card heat sink as well, I'm still running over 90 degrees inside the case and 110 degrees at the processor. All of this tells me there is a possible heat problem to deal with, but if thats so, then why did this setup work fine to play AHII just days ago, but now it wont? The way I see it, one of three things is happening, and I'm just fishing to see if anyone is experiencing, has experienced the same thing, and what worked or is working for them.
1. Coincidence. Something unrelated happened at the same time I was performing my video card switch-out and switch-back that is totally unrelated and just happened to come along right then. Has nothing to do with either video card, the drivers, etc.
2. When I installed the new video card and installed the drivers for it, something in my system changed and I dont know how to change it back. I know for a fact the current card, with the current drivers worked in AHII up to 2 days ago (this was after the beta ended). I know I have scourged my computer of any reference to the drivers that were installed during the swap-out and even my registry has been cleaned of references to that card and/or its drivers. I know that I have uninstalled, and deleted all the folders for AHII and done a clean download and install. And even after all this, and using a card and drivers that worked before, I am having the same problem I had when I first installed the new card.
3. In the process of installing a new card with new drivers, and then uninstalling it, purging my system and reinstalling the old stuff, something changed the way the computer (or at least AHII) sees my video card, and now that whatever old setting WAS there is gone, it will never work again. I see this as highly unlikely, since plenty of other people are using the same processor family of chips on video cards (nvidia geforce4) successfully. Even if the game never saw my card the same again, it should still run.
I am looking for clues. Anyone with similar problems who solved them, or someone who helped someone else solve a similar problem, someone who sees something obvious I missed, etc. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
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Do you have fast writes enabled? - If so switch it off. Try setting to AGP 2x too to check
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Are you using AHII installed sounds? My system SEEMS to have problems with sounds that are not AHII stock sounds. Saw in another thread something about 8 bit vs 16 bit sounds.
I DO NOT know for certain that AHII has problems with non-stock AHII sounds but using only stock install sounds has SEEMED to clear up almost all my problems at this point.
Gonna keep my system this way until I see reports otherwise and hope it continues to function well.
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Currently my fast writes are disabled. I turned them off one step before killing my 4x AGP control. I turned the card all the way down to 1x and still no go.
As for the sounds, everything is whatever was installed by AH. I have added nothing, because up to this time I've been trying to establish a playable baseline with the system and then begin adding extras until its not playable anymore. Havent quite gotten that far yet lol. :)
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Anyone out there that has a PNY nVIDIA Verto GeForce FX 5200 Ultra AGP please let me know what MOBO you recommend? A Bundle CPU/MOBO or any combination...just point me in the right direction.
I'm going thru Aces High withdraws...shakes, sweats...blured vision and headaches...constant sound of "CHECK 6" ringing in my ears...
I have a 300 watt mid tower case but the present MOBO and CPU wont cut it. I need your help guys. I'm begging for your help. The wifey already broke down and authorized me to spend no more that $250 to get me flying again....Help a Brother here....
MacMAW
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If you want a good, cheap motherboard that SHOULD handle what is required........
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=50369&sku=S450-2031
This one should cut the mustard and its only 50 bucks. Your FX 5200 with this motherboard and some decent RAM. It doesnt support the top-of-the-line DDR RAM, but...... Its only 50 bucks! lol
They have others, including some barebones systems with case, processor, power supply and keyboard/mouse and speakers for right at 100 bucks. Make sure what you want though. Socket A is for Athalon type CPUs, 478 is the P4/Celeron setup. Some have built-in audio and video, some dont. The most basic systems are coming with a 300W power supply, 350W on most of the rest. If you go high end on the video cards, you will need more than that. Especially if you use the Athalon style. Be careful of some of the cheaper ones, they use imbedded processors? Never seen that before, but the sound of it scares me.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Anyone out there that has a PNY nVIDIA Verto GeForce FX 5200 Ultra AGP please let me know what MOBO you recommend? A Bundle CPU/MOBO or any combination...just point me in the right direction.
MacMAW
try this:
you can get 2600+ and a7v8x motherboard for 143 dollars. Spend the rest on 512md ram pc2700 will do fine.
http://www.bzboyz.com/store/a7n8x.html
best buy has a rebate on 512mb kingston ram - not the best but certainly workable
regards
Acetnt