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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Cerceuilvolant on June 16, 2004, 12:40:39 PM
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Time to eventually skip AH:
Dinant, Meuse valley, before:
(http://209.234.184.99/images/dinant-before.jpg)
After:
(http://209.234.184.99/images/dinant-after.jpg)
The programmer's word, Killer:
Let me explain :)
Before is the current wwiiol 1km DEM satellite data. That's the terrain resolution we play on now.
After is the new 90meter DEM data from the space shuttle SRTM radar mission where they mapped the earth's elevation with radar.
That is a high resolution terrain data set for the meuse valley somewhere around Dinant using the new SRTM shuttle data.
Forget textures, it's just got a default texture stamped on it.
It's the elevation data that is new.
It still needs new river technology, new road technology, new coastline technology and new texturing methods and 3D buildings and trees.
It's also already coded for multithreaded loading, ridding it of annoying pauses as terrain data streams in.
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It looks like a quilt.
-Sik
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Its just a higher res terrain map, what does that have to do with skipping AH. What a stupid statment. We have terrain with that resolution now.
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I'm trying, honestly.
I'm doing infantry, not flying.
I'm playing in a squad (250 Hispana, 30+ members, good coordination).
I'm trying to get into it.
Trying to get the most of my 30-day trial.
I've been promoted, and killed 20+ in a single mission as a rifleman.
But:
WW2OL bores me to death as of today as a soldier
WW2OL makes me laugh histerically as a pilot
Dunno, people like it. It must be me.
Daniel
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Are you talking about the contours of the hill? that looks ok, the actual look of the fields is pretty lame looking.
Does the flight model still blow goats?
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The second pic really looks bad. Really bad.
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I do like the elevation, and it does say "forget textures" on quoted part.
I think that's a really cool addition to immersion, that the topography is being taken from real life data, and not just sculpted form guesswork. I think that's a very cool feature.
When they get to 1942/43 Pacific, then maybe I'll give them another try.
-Sik
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The elevation looks "ok" but so what many games have terrains like that.
I will gladly forget the textures, they do look bad.
But:
WW2OL bores me to death as of today as a soldier
WW2OL makes me laugh histerically as a pilot
Dunno, people like it. It must be me.
You arent alone. We differ in that after long breaks from playing I return and get "into it" for a few weeks then the boredom sets in. Flying is a joke.
It just doesn't sustain the fun factor for me.
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I like 'before' more than 'after'...
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Killer wrote "Forget the textures" as they are just the default ones and have not been changed for the terrain. The picture is showing the terrain only. Obviously the side of a cliff does not have a farmers field on it.
If you say you hate the textures after this post then you are just confirming you can't read.
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poor farmers
:(
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Was the 1.4.1 patch released today?
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
poor farmers
:(
You mean cliff divers.
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
WW2OL bores me to death as of today as a soldier
WW2OL makes me laugh histerically as a pilot
Dunno, people like it. It must be me.
Daniel
Seconded ... nothing more boring for me...
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I cancelled too.
Not that it was a bad game. I had fun, but there's not enough room in my day for AH, AND WWIIOL along with the rest of my stuff.
And being that I enjoy being a pilot more than a rifleman, I stick with AHII.
Maybe someday, one game will do BOTH ground AND air combat well. They'll get my subsciption.
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
I'm playing in a squad (250 Hispana, 30+ members, good coordination).
I'm trying to get into it.
Daniel
How about telling your squad that official language in "Origin" is english. People are getting tired to listen Spaniards using origin as their chat ch.
Thank you.
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Anyone else get the Welcome back soldier email? Giving us another 2 week free trial. Well my old password doesnt work any more so I email support stating I needed my password reset so I can take advantage of the trial. 13 days later I get a email back telling me that my password will be reset and emailed to me in 48 hours. Well there goes the the 2 week free trial. Their customer support is a friggin JOKE. Too bad too cause I really wanted to give it another try the ground terrian is really looking good.
Oh well screw um they still owe me 45 duckets for that piece of crud game they sold me.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Does the flight model still blow goats?
Yes. But its the "battle" thats fun.
I don't know why CRS went for a terrain update, theres so much more they could work on.
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tere was this old miscosoft motocross game that came hidden on the win98 disc. the demo of that game had better textures, and better "curves" or whatever LOL
seriously, those patches of color look like they were done with a crayon tool in MS paint or something.
these posts come around every few months, and i truly feel sorry for the fanboys of those other games. they love it and are trying to promote it or something, and we stomp all over them. it is almost sad to see how evil the flurry of rips are, and how fast they come, and here i joined it lol. now i feel sad.
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ye cods that terrian is craptacular. I can throw something better then that togeter with USGS dmas and Vue4 demo in less then 5 minutes
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I remember the WW2online days....
Sit down after walking all day.
Launch WW2online
Spend 30 minutes searching for some fun
Spend 2 hours walking to a destination only to be killed by an unseen enemy..
Of course I exagerated about 30 minutes of that.
Ohh yeah theres the planes that you can fly...?! except at 3FPS I have troubles not hitting the ground..
Though the pictures of the Sheep in the screen shot make WW2online more appealing now :O
IKON
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Originally posted by Staga
How about telling your squad that official language in "Origin" is english. People are getting tired to listen Spaniards using origin as their chat ch.
Thank you.
Sorry, not in there anymore.
Oh, and I also find the chat system cumbersome.
Daniel
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Originally posted by 1K0N
I remember the WW2online days....
Sit down after walking all day.
Launch WW2online
Spend 30 minutes searching for some fun
Spend 2 hours walking to a destination only to be killed by an
It's a hard place for noobs...
Once learns it, gets some kills before dies, or RTB's with kills.
Takes generally longer to get into the action, but at least not every corner is the same and you don't know whether theres enemy ambushing on the route or where they are in the objective
..or alternatively player can ambush others.
Thats what makes it exciting for me.. theres room to do different things.
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still looks smoother and better than AHII terrain imo, plus it has way better foliage. Ignoring the textures, IMO its better terrain than ahII...
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i try hard to enjoy ww2ol but i just don't (i finally got it working now, no thanks to CRS).
Whenever i have come back to ww2ol the gameplay is still the same... and thats what i don't like about it. When i come back i usually play it for several days, then i just get start getting annoyed by the game. They could spend years making the game look pretty and i wouldn't like the game any better.
My gripes are mainly these-
The 32 limit (or is it 64?) and it's biasing. For me this completely destroys the game.
I assumed this bug was squashed but on my 1st misison the bedford that i was riding in blinked out, so i fell to the floor, then it blinked back a couple of seconds later.... leaving me stranded in the middle of nowhere.
I'm also seeing the ID circles but no vehicle/plane.... how the bloody hell am i supposed to shoot them?? I also see warp in general with planes so that does't really matter anyway.
Not getting awarded kills. This annoys me like crazy. Half the time i don't get kills even tho i see blood on enemy infantry and they fall down and despawn. But i manage to get a kill awarded on a panzer IV as a rifleman just taking pot shots at it. (the commander wasn't up, i was just trying to get it's attention away from a sapper).
The gameplay for me is just not to my taste either. Far too much sitting around doing nothing. For me it's an fun as watching Big Brother on TV.
When CRS starts to look to improve gameplay rather than graphics i'll guess i'll have another go.
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Originally posted by acepilot2
still looks smoother and better than AHII terrain imo, plus it has way better foliage. Ignoring the textures, IMO its better terrain than ahII...
Thats because its visibility is extremely limited, around 3 miles. Compared to the up to 17 miles AH2 does. So in WW2OL they're rendering a 9 mile square area around you, AH2 can render 289 square miles around you, thats 32 times as much terrain. And on my PC AH2 does it at 1.5x the resolution and double the framerate.
Of course from the ground it works well. But from the air its horrible. CRS are going to have immense problems with later war fighters, a 400mph fighter covers that 3 mile visibility limit in less than 30 seconds.
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Pretty much only smart thing is to fight there where isn't good part of the players killing each other and thereby avoid 32 limitation problems.
It seems to be really 32, not 64.. I bet 64 would make a difference of day and night.
IMO there shouldn't be scores at all, it was more fun without the scores and better yet, nobody complained back then about getting kills :D
scores just... attracts... me.. into.. score .. whooring... dont want it anymore!
Had already more than my fair share of it back in the days :D
Vulcan,
Better FPS? must have something to do with far simplier ground detail requirements of AH enviroment ;)
I'd like to be able to see planes from longer distances though..
Currently it tops out at about 5km.. maybe 6km, where from you'll see them barely with good binocs.
Shouldn't be too hard to see a bomber up in the sky from +6km
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(http://www.lizking.com/bring_hell.jpg)
Put this texture on that map(actually, this is old, the new tress look better), to imagine.
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Well regardless what you guess say I'm enjoying both games. To each their own. They both haves something to offer.
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Well, I have complained about the flight model alot. As a noob in the axis airforce you must fly 110's against hurcs, and it sux. But I will say this about it, you do have engine management, which I think is very nice, and your views are limited, making a dogfight quite a rush. I have become a Lieutenant in the airforce and have access to the good 109's, and those fair much better against spits and hurcs. Dive bombing with stukas can be a blast too. Went on a strategic bombing mission into England last night in 111's, had a blast. Didn't know how to bomb, but I crewed with a guy who didn't have rank to fly a bomber but knew how to bomb, worked out great. When you get rank, it becomes alot better. I think they have too many bombers to my liking, and I say that because there is no weather to impede them, they bomb at will unless you have aa around to help.
The naval part of the game really has my interest, but I can't gain any rank because there are never any missions posted. I have crewed with a destroyer a few times, and it is a blast, I can't wait to gain rank to spawn one. I really would like to see the day they bring in battleships and carriers. That will be very interesting, but seems to be a long way off, for carriers anyway.
I am a Colonel in the axis army and the one thing that I am not is bored. Getting the noobs organized is the most fun for me. They are really lost when they come into the game, and with all the prima donnas and lack of a good comms system, they don't get much help. You can't get anything done alone alone in ww2online, if you try to do that, you will just become frustrated. I suggest joining a squad as soon as you can to learn the game.That's the one thing I think Aces High has over everyone else, a built in voice comms, it doesn't get any better than that. Each side has it's own private teamspeak server, but if you are not in a squad, you do not have access to it. I have a teamspeak server I use to train noobs, if you want access, send me an email.
In aces high you can go out solo and have some fun, in ww2online you will find it to be quite the opposite. You cannot capture a city with 3-5 players, it takes a large effort and alot of teamwork.
Every game has it's pros and cons. I think ww2online is a good game, but I think it is going rather slow. I hope it isn't another 3 years before another front opens up, and don't forget, all other fronts have to open before the pacific will(my favorite one!). I thought I read that africa may come out this year, I hope so.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Vulcan,
Better FPS? must have something to do with far simplier ground detail requirements of AH enviroment ;)
I'd like to be able to see planes from longer distances though..
Currently it tops out at about 5km.. maybe 6km, where from you'll see them barely with good binocs.
Shouldn't be too hard to see a bomber up in the sky from +6km
Actually although AH2 needs a bit of fine tuning in the ground, the complexity is not vastly difference.
At 6km altitude even the ground directly under you begins to disappear the visual rendering range is so limited in WW2OL.
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and in breaking news the latest WW2OL patch series the Hurricane Mk1 outrunning and outclimbing 109E4's.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
and in breaking news the latest WW2OL patch series the Hurricane Mk1 outrunning and outclimbing 109E4's.
LMAO cause we all know those hurris were soo uber in BoB... those carpy 109's were just .303 fodder.