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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: weazel on March 09, 2000, 04:25:00 PM
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Here`s some ideas that came to me last night. At the moment there is no real JABO mission for fighter bombers in the arena,and the B-17 can fly too high for effective fighter intercepts. I would like to see 88mm anti-aircraft guns modeled but be only player controlled. If possible make batteries of 4 guns controlled in the same fashion as the bomber guns.Place the batteries of guns in random locations around strategic targets and as protection for these guns use the player manned M16 halftracks. This would give some defense against the high flying buffs and also be a good target for JABO attacks.This would have a desirable effect on strategy as a team wanting to destroy a countrys infra-structure would have to co-ordinate a JABO attack and buff strike to have a reasonable chance of killing the radar or other critical targets. It would also create a more realistic atmosphere for the bomber pilots as they would be dodging high altitude flak bursts <G> (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
What do you guys think? Add your comments or enhancements to this idea below.
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[This message has been edited by weazel (edited 03-10-2000).]
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I likes! I likes!
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Damn good idea.
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Diddo the "Damn good idea." statement.
That would be fabulous. What a break from furball hell. I can see it now. GRab a cooler, 12 little cold friends, and scan the map and sky's for those 30K buffs.
WHUUUUUUUMPH! WHUUUUUUMPH! sounds out of the sub-woofer as a streak of red shells goes up to meet the Buffs, exploding a nice black puff of smoke that throws shrapnel in all directions. Yup, thad be cool.
If AkWabbit did the sound right, I could have the police here within 6 rounds. Cool.
This brings up a interesting question. Would not this math/Art/code programing be much easier than say a simple plane? Hell, I have no idea, I'm amazed HTC can do what they have. It's really incredible. The point would be after achieving these things to this current state, is not a 88 lofting shells pretty easy in comparison?
Anyway, great idea.
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>If AkWabbit did the sound right, I could
>have the police here within 6 rounds. Cool.
If HT gives me the gun, I'm pretty sure I can get you arrested. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Wab
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That's got to be the best suggestion, yet! Wow..really! The only thing I would like to add is, ack ack are still IA and not players....hummm I'm just thinking aloud.
It would be even better if HTC could claim that every hit made was by another player on the web and not by some AI DEAD EYE. (MHO)
Great call Weasel!
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Wow....I like it!!
Might have to get a better chair and stronger coffee for the night shift. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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332nd Flying Mongrels
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I really like the idea of player controlled ack- no computers at all. I would definitely do some target practice between flights. If a field was under attack the call would go out on the country channel and whoever is available would move to the field and take a gun possition. If it was as fun as shooting bandits in a B17 there would be no problem getting them manned.
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RUST
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[This message has been edited by ezrust (edited 03-09-2000).]
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Bring it ON!
Hell I've wanted to be an ack weenie since the first time I dropped into Warbirds Main arena!
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Leave the 20mm/40mm AAA as is, (except that it's accuracy needs to be a LOT less)
Give us manned 88's against the buffs....
As a buff pilot, Just thinking about Torgue down there manning an 88 battery makes the pucker factor rise about 90%.....
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GreyBeard
Flight Commander, Aces High
"Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
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That's gotta be one of the best idea's yet! Would definately add some more atmosphere to the game! Puffs of smoke and shrapnel exploding all around. Also, make it so that if freindly fighters engage, the 88's better shut down or risk hitting their own fighters, that would definately add some atmosphere hehe.
ts
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Just in case HTC is considering the idea and responses to this thread I would like to add
YES to player-controlled ack or aaa.
Fury
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I like it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Excellent idea..The coordinated ack battery one has to be a keeper..Course 88s work against tanks too...Wabbit we would nee a shrapnel on the fuselage sound too...
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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew
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I really like the idea of player controlled ack and adding 88's for infrastructure defense would be awesome!
Add it!
Mox
The Wrecking Crew
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Good one, weazel (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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leonid, Komandir
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I know nothing about programming but I don't see why this couldn't be done.
It seems alot like flying as a gunner in a buff...gun hit by bombs then position is disabled ...someone there already NP just say position not available.
I think this is a great idea.
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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
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Yeah! The coding part of it wouldn't be that bad- just make another halftrack model without the wheels and cab. Make it a box on the ground with an 88.
Then, to heighten the experience- they could let you set the height of the burst. That'd make it cool. Then you could always lower 'em down to point blank the poor bastard halftracks headed your way, hehehe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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-Rebel
JG2 "Richtofen"
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Yep, a definite "must." By the way, didn't I read in Dogfighter or someplace that the half-track would be able to tow an arty piece? It only makes since that this be a duel-purpose gun like the German 88. Imagine taking a few friends and setting up a flak ambush. Then we'd have permanent flak sites around stratigic targets, and mobile batteries for improved point defense of bases and such.
I like the battery-fire idea for the fixed sites. The Germans routinely opperated their 88's in that fashion, firing four at a time in a pattern. All shells were sychronized to go off at the same altitude and close together, for maximum effect. According to accounts by allied aircrew, it was extremely effective...and truly scarey.
One thing, though: to effectively operate high-alt AAA was as much art as science. We'll need winds implemented, both to attenuate AAA accuracy as the target climbs higher, and to attenuate bombing accuracy at the same time. If the buffs climb to improve their survivability against the ack, they'd pay a price in accuracy. There would need to be a GUI that would pop up for controlling such things as ammo selection (AAA/HE/AP/smoke), delay (determines the altitude of detonation) calculater), and an optical sight comparible to the Norden. The Allies also developed proximitey fuse later in the war. This ingenious devise packed a tiny (by WWII standards), short range radar transmitter that would cause the shell to burst earlier then set if it passed in close proximity to an airborn object. I don't believe Germany ever got a like round into mass production, but I'm not positive. Definitely food for thought.
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Sabre, a.k.a. Rojo
(S-2, The Buccaneers)
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I'm just a user not a programer or marketing guru. I do see the odd contrast of the AI ack ack and the buff gunners. I really don't care one way or the other.:> I like the AH setup above all others to date, Just as is I have a great time online (2 pair net permitting). I am just wandering if weazel's idea get's added (I hope it is) would it be that bad if all shots or kills come from online players? AI is needed I'm sure but still if you get hit I'd like for it to come from a player and not an algorithem...hehehe.ok you get my drift? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Luckyone (edited 03-10-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Luckyone (edited 03-10-2000).]
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More Jabo targets.
Less ZSU-23 Radar-Guided Ack!
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Hmm, targets to practice my rocket attacks on inbetween panzer assaults (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Any targets for me to auger my dear old Typhoon firing at are fine by me!
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