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Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Turbo11 on June 17, 2004, 02:37:45 AM
Jap. Fighters

Ki-10
Ki-45
Ki-60
Ki-64
Ki-88
Ki-96
Ki-100
Ki-102
Ki-108
Ki-119
Ki-98
Ki-83
Ki-109
Ki-27
Ki-43
Ki-44
Ki-62
Ki-84
Ki-87
Ki-201
Ki-93
Ki-94

Jap. Bombers
BR-20
Ki-32
Ki-48
Ki-66
Ki-91
Ka-1 and Ka-2
Ki-21
Ki-30
Ki-51
Ki-19
Ki-49
Ki-115
Ki-36
Ki-74

Jap. Reconnaissance Planes

Ki-76
Ki-15
Ki-46
Ki-70

Jap. Transports and Glider Planes

Ki-56
Ki-59
Ku-7
Ku-8
Ki-105
Ki-57
Ki-34

Jap. Trainer Planes

Ki-86
Ki-79
Ki-9
Ki-17
Ki-54
Ki-55
Ki-107

Jap. Specials

Ki-78
Ki-77

German Fictitious Types

He-111
Hs-129
Ju-52
Ki-28
B-97
TK-4
AT-27



Jap. Naval Fighters

S1A
He-112
J3K1 and J6K1
J7W
A5M
A6M3
G6M
J2M Raiden
J4M
A7M
J8M
J1N
J5N
A8V1

Jap Naval Bombers

D1A
B7A
G3M
G4M
G5N
B6N
G6N
G10N
B4Y
D4Y
P1Y

Jap. Suicide Attack Planes

MXY7

Jap. Land-Based Reconnaissance and Patrol Planes

Q1W
C5M
C6N
R2Y

Jap. Flying Boats and Seaplanes (Other than fighters)

E10A
E11A
E13A
H9A
E16A
M6A
E7K
H6K
H8K
E15K
F1M
E8N
E14Y
K4Y
H5Y

Jap. Transports

G6M-L2
L2D
L3Y

Jap. Land-Based Trainers

K9W
K10W
K11W
K3M
K2Y
K5Y
D3Y

German/Jap. Fictitious Types

AI-97
AI-104
Fw-200
KI-001
SKT-97
SKT-98

You might not know most of these, the reason why is because they either never made production or they were never flown.

:lol :rofl :lol :aok
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 17, 2004, 02:39:28 AM
Exactly the reason this post is worthless and HiTech ignores these posts:aok
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Turbo11 on June 17, 2004, 02:46:35 AM
Here are some more planes I want to be added...

Me-323
Ba-349
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Sikboy on June 17, 2004, 09:19:34 AM
wow, the noise to signal ration in here is PRENOMINAL!

I've noticed a few posts simply cataloging a large number of aircraft and wonder about them. I mean I guess its as much of a daydream as any other "plane wish" post, but when I look at the effort that goes into the campaign to get planes like the Ki-84, added, with 4 pages of replies, technical data, arguments for utility in the MA, SEA and CT, Anecdotal evidence from History and other sims...

It's just interesting to see the difference between the two types of posts.

-Sik
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Raptor on June 17, 2004, 07:57:11 PM
what good would recon planes be? spot enemy ships, but what would encourage people to fly them instead of something faster like a corsair? its not like your gonna be able to earn perk points for saying "Enemy ships in grid #,# heading south"
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Sikboy on June 18, 2004, 09:16:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01
what good would recon planes be? spot enemy ships, but what would encourage people to fly them instead of something faster like a corsair? its not like your gonna be able to earn perk points for saying "Enemy ships in grid #,# heading south"


It's my hope that in the ToD, MARPAT missions will play a role. In that case, you may not get perk points for finding enemy ships, but you could gain rank, and Hogs wouldn't be available for the mission, but SBDs and (potentially) PBYs could.

HTC stated that they were unsure how many of the current player base would be interested in ToD, and I hope that it is because it will offer something entirely different, such as the Marritime Patrol, and Recce flights.

-Sik
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Kweassa on June 18, 2004, 09:40:32 AM
Hmm..

 This would probably fill out the void in the JP planeset...

 A6M3
 J2M3
 Ki-43
 Ki-44
 Ki-45
 Ki-84
 G4M
 H8K2

 And this fills the very small void in the LW planeset..

 Fw190A-3
 Bf109G-14

 And this, for the single, but gaping large big hole in the RAF set..

 Spitfire LFMk.IXe ('44)

  ...

 This for the FAF

 B-239

 ...

 These for the VVS..

 I-16
 Mig-3
 LaGG-3
 Yak-7B
 Yak-1B
 Yak-9M
 Pe-8
 Tu-2
 P-39N

 ....

 And these, for the USAAF

 P-38G
 P-38J

 

 That about wraps up my choice of 'really needed planes...'
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Karnak on June 18, 2004, 03:25:51 PM
Kweassa,

For the RAF I'd suggest:

Beaufighter Mk X
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Wellington B.Mk III

That would give the RAF an early war strike fighter in the Beaufighter.

The Spitfire LF.Mk VIII has very similar performance to the LF.Mk IX and would give us a Pacific Theater Spitfire.

The Wellington B.Mk III would give the RAF an early war bomber that the Axis fighters could actually catch.  I've had the Boston Mk III literally run my Bf109E-4 down and force me to turn, letting the horde of Hurri Is catch up.


The only other thing I can think of would be a Meteor Mk III if HTC wanted to add an Allied jet.  It would, of course, be heavily perked.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Guppy35 on June 18, 2004, 06:43:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Kweassa,

For the RAF I'd suggest:

Beaufighter Mk X
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Wellington B.Mk III

That would give the RAF an early war strike fighter in the Beaufighter.

The Spitfire LF.Mk VIII has very similar performance to the LF.Mk IX and would give us a Pacific Theater Spitfire.

The Wellington B.Mk III would give the RAF an early war bomber that the Axis fighters could actually catch.  I've had the Boston Mk III literally run my Bf109E-4 down and force me to turn, letting the horde of Hurri Is catch up.


The only other thing I can think of would be a Meteor Mk III if HTC wanted to add an Allied jet.  It would, of course, be heavily perked.



What are the odds of getting both a n LFIXe and an LFVIII though?  Probably slim and none.  The howls from the LW fanatics would raise the roof :)

So do you do a broad chord rudder LFIX with a full span Universal wing that allows you to skin it like an LFVIII as the only external difference would be the lack of retractable tail wheel or do you do an LFVIII and pretend they operated them from England and not just the Med and PTO?

I'd happily take both since one could be a full span Universal wing in the LFVIII and the other could be a clipped wing LFIX with the E wing.

That of course lets there be a second batch of skins with the LFVIII getting the desert camo and Aussie skins while the IX gets the ETO skins that could include the D-Day stuff etc.

Dan/Slack
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Karnak on June 18, 2004, 08:56:45 PM
I was advocating the Spitfire LF.Mk VIII be added and leave the Spitfire LF.Mk IX out of the game.

Use the Spitfire LF.Mk VIII as a Spitfire LF.Mk IX in European scenarios.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Guppy35 on June 18, 2004, 10:22:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
I was advocating the Spitfire LF.Mk VIII be added and leave the Spitfire LF.Mk IX out of the game.

Use the Spitfire LF.Mk VIII as a Spitfire LF.Mk IX in European scenarios.


Yep, I understood that part :)

Seems to me that if we have a 190A8 and F8, we could expect the same in Spits though right?

In particular with the different armament, ailerons and potentially wingspan between the normally fullspan wing LFVIII and the more often clipped wing LFIXe which also stands in well for the LFXVIe.

I don't know that the VIII was ever equipped with the wing bomb hardpoints of the LFIXe and XVIe either

Dan//Slack
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: MOIL on June 19, 2004, 11:39:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa
Hmm..

 This would probably fill out the void in the JP planeset...

 A6M3
 J2M3
 Ki-43
 Ki-44
 Ki-45
 Ki-84
 G4M
 H8K2

 And this fills the very small void in the LW planeset..

 Fw190A-3
 Bf109G-14

 And this, for the single, but gaping large big hole in the RAF set..

 Spitfire LFMk.IXe ('44)

  ...

 This for the FAF

 B-239

 ...

 These for the VVS..

 I-16
 Mig-3
 LaGG-3
 Yak-7B
 Yak-1B
 Yak-9M
 Pe-8
 Tu-2
 P-39N

 ....

 And these, for the USAAF

 P-38G
 P-38J

 

 That about wraps up my choice of 'really needed planes...'


Oh, lemme see.......you stated "we don't need anymore stinkin' AA"

Well,  we don't need anymore planes either, the game has plenty of planes to fly:eek:
Interesting you took the time to type out all the aircraft YOU feel is really needed.....................mu st be important to ya:aok
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Kweassa on June 20, 2004, 02:36:54 AM
Well at least I requested planes.

 Not another stinkin' flak vehicle to hug the ground with.

 You know what, you're welcome to have your stinkin' Wirbelwind. If sitting on the ground, doing the "point-and-click" type of fighting in an armoured AA vehicle is so much fun, hell, why not.

 The rest of us will just stay in the air and fight amongst ourselves.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: MOIL on June 20, 2004, 01:26:52 PM
Kweassa states:
Well at least I requested planes.

Not another stinkin' flak vehicle to hug the ground with.

You know what, you're welcome to have your stinkin' Wirbelwind. If sitting on the ground, doing the "point-and-click" type of fighting in an armoured AA vehicle is so much fun, hell, why not.

The rest of us will just stay in the air and fight amongst ourselves.

From HTC website: In the air, on
land, and at sea, the battle rages 24 hours a day
with participants from around the world.

So lemme get this right, if you request certain planes you'd like to see added to the game, thats ok? because it's a "plane" ?
But if someone enjoys doing something else other than flying and would like to see certain veh's added to the game.OMFG what a crime this must be:rolleyes:  Until YOU pay my $15 a month to play I'll choose whatever the he11 I wan't to drive or fly.
Sitting on the ground {yes thats where GV's drive} doing a "point-n-click" type fight?  This one I don't get. I guess your saying {please correct me i'm wrong} that GV's are easy? take no skill? You make no sense! {ya like the FM is sooooo real}
Futhermore, it seems you have a real problem with people wanting to do something other than fly? thats your problem. As if AH is some kind of uber "flight Sim" {which it is not}
Not sure if your aware but there was a lot more troops and GV's on the ground in WWII than there was planes in the sky.
Geez what a shame that we have all these people in the game trying to build on it and add more functionality & choices. Rather than hop in a plane {Usually a Spit, LA7, Nik, P38 or P51} and go furballing:(

Oh wait, must just be ME who complains about that no one else:rolleyes:
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Angus on June 21, 2004, 07:15:07 AM
Well, how about the Me410?
Or the tank busters, Stuka with 2x37mm's and Hs129?
FW Condor with torps.
He 111

From the Italian side, the Macci 200 and the Reggiane?
And the Cant....

That should pretty much sum this up.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: -tronski- on June 21, 2004, 07:48:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Kweassa,

For the RAF I'd suggest:

Beaufighter Mk X
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Wellington B.Mk III

That would give the RAF an early war strike fighter in the Beaufighter.

The Spitfire LF.Mk VIII has very similar performance to the LF.Mk IX and would give us a Pacific Theater Spitfire.

The Wellington B.Mk III would give the RAF an early war bomber that the Axis fighters could actually catch.  I've had the Boston Mk III literally run my Bf109E-4 down and force me to turn, letting the horde of Hurri Is catch up.


The only other thing I can think of would be a Meteor Mk III if HTC wanted to add an Allied jet.  It would, of course, be heavily perked.


Totally agree....perhaps even a P-40N Kittyhawk?

 Tronsky
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Shuckins on June 21, 2004, 12:26:53 PM
The fly-in-the-buttermilk for these issues is that you have to have the flight data for these aircraft before they can be modelled.  Much of it simply doesn't exist anymore.

Personally, though, I would like to see the Me-109 K-14 in AH II.  After all, it actually DID see combat.
Title: Re: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Reschke on June 21, 2004, 03:16:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Turbo11



German Fictitious Types

He-111
Hs-129
Ju-52
Fw-200




Wow I didn't know those 4 aircraft were never produced by Germany....Geez some people in trying to set a hook never even notice when they set themselves with it.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: GODO on June 21, 2004, 03:22:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Beaufighter Mk X
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Wellington B.Mk III


Nice list of axis planes :rolleyes:
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Karnak on June 21, 2004, 04:41:48 PM
Axis aircraft I'd like sto see are:

B6N2
Ki-44-II-Otsu
Ki-84-I-Ko
J2M3a

Bf109G-14
Fw190A-2
Ju-188A-2
Me410B-2
Title: Sorry
Post by: Turbo11 on June 21, 2004, 08:45:51 PM
Sorry guys, I don't know what's wrong with this list, I copied and pasted it from a website, obvioulsly it's very crappy.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Puke ver. 2 on June 23, 2004, 12:10:17 PM
And be careful, I once got banned for taking the position that "Jap" is not a dirty word.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: United on June 23, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
Why do people post huge, long wish lists?  Dont they realize that you cant just pop a plane out of nowhere?  It takes weeks to months of programming to get a plane involved.  Why not ask for one plane and give information to back up your request?  Like Sik said, the Ki84 post was a good one.  Lots of information and uses it could have in the different arenas.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: 1K3 on June 23, 2004, 03:37:22 PM
Don't forget that wee need French fighters and bombers

:)
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Raptor on June 23, 2004, 06:13:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
Don't forget that wee need French fighters and bombers

:)

only if we give the french crewmen a white flag to stick out of the window. So as soon as an enemy fighter comes along they can surrender
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Rasker on June 23, 2004, 06:30:51 PM
now, now, one third of the French people were cheering for our forces in Iraq this past go-round, enough bashing an entire nation for the policies of its government.
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: bustr on June 23, 2004, 07:21:12 PM
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Originally posted by Puke ver. 2
And be careful, I once got banned for taking the position that "Jap" is not a dirty word.


When I lived at Wakkinai Japan we were told to call Japanese citizens "JN's" for Japanese National. But there were the JC's. Japanese Communists, every May Day they lined up at the front gate and blocked off traffic.....hmmm days long gone by...:)
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Sikboy on June 23, 2004, 08:00:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by bustr
When I lived at Wakkinai Japan we were told to call Japanese citizens "JN's" for Japanese National. But there were the JC's. Japanese Communists, every May Day they lined up at the front gate and blocked off traffic.....hmmm days long gone by...:)


Were you up there in 1983? Hmmmmm?

-Sik
Title: Some Axis planes we can add.
Post by: Rasker on June 23, 2004, 08:21:06 PM
I dont think of Yank or Yankee as a dirty word, even tho it originally was sarcastic term used in Dutch New Netherlands colony for New Englanders ("Little John" as in John Bull's offspring).  Many from the southern US might object to being termed Yankee's tho, for some reason. :)