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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Capt. Pork on June 19, 2004, 04:49:52 PM
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This is a carry-over from the other thread.
Just wanted to know how everyone felt about the practice to decrease the desireablity of martyrdom. The Israelis were toying with the idea of hanging bags of pork fat in busses to dissuade potential suicide bombers from setting off explosions, inevitably bathing their own body parts in the substance which they hate.
There were also rumors of the Russian government burying the Chechen terrorists responsible for the Moscow Theater Hostage crisis in pig skin.
The idea is to deny them entry into heaven, since that's the driving force behind the actions of those who actually commit the actions.
Opinions?
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Sounds good.
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much of the abuse in abu GaRuB prison was to shame the religious sensibilities of suspect muslims. The idea of burying these terrorist scumbags in pigskin or bathing their bodies in pigblood appeals to me. Im all for it. Shame those rotten bastards into hell.
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We should develop some sort of Pig's Blood Bullet for the troops to use.
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You guys make an assumption here, ie: the suicide bombers really believe that "72 virgins" stuff.
Has the Israeli "pig fat" idea actually decreased the rate of bus bombings? I sure don't now.
However, if they're not sending their "best and brightest" to do the suicide bombing... and I suspect they send their slowest, dumbest and most mentally challenged (or maybe they have in flagrante delicto pictures of them with the"Pigboy Sow of the Month" if you catch my drift).... then this idea may not work.
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I'm pretty sure that if they believe their god will reward them for the murder of infidels, then they could probably be convinced he will forgive them for being painted in pig parts postmortem.
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Originally posted by Toad
You guys make an assumption here, ie: the suicide bombers really believe that "72 virgins" stuff.
Has the Israeli "pig fat" idea actually decreased the rate of bus bombings? I sure don't now.
However, if they're not sending their "best and brightest" to do the suicide bombing... and I suspect they send their slowest, dumbest and most mentally challenged (or maybe they have in flagrante delicto pictures of them with the"Pigboy Sow of the Month" if you catch my drift).... then this idea may not work.
Well im not sure about the pigfat in the bus thing. I mean after we capture them dead or alive. Either pour pig blood on them or bury them with pigs, and that would maybe be a way of making them think twice... maybe
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Originally posted by Toad
You guys make an assumption here, ie: the suicide bombers really believe that "72 virgins" stuff.
Has the Israeli "pig fat" idea actually decreased the rate of bus bombings? I sure don't now.
However, if they're not sending their "best and brightest" to do the suicide bombing... and I suspect they send their slowest, dumbest and most mentally challenged (or maybe they have in flagrante delicto pictures of them with the"Pigboy Sow of the Month" if you catch my drift).... then this idea may not work.
First off, I don't think the Israelis ever went through with the Pig Fat idea because for one thing, devout Jews aren't too fond of the substance either.
Secondly, I really don't think it takes an Islamic scholar to believe in this concept--quite the contrary, actually. Anyone enthused by the idea of giving their life is clearly hoping for something better on the other side, because why do it if all you're gonna get is dead? If they're indoctrinated enough to be so certain of paradise(the 72 virgins is but one interpretation of the concept of heaven, and not widely accepted. Heaven, on the other hand, is universal to any Muslim), which, again, doesn't require brains so much as blind devotion, then they're probably also familiar with the hatred and fear of pork products--which quite basic in Islam.
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I think it's incorrect to assume religion is either the sole or primary motivator.
There've been "suiciders" in many conflicts. The Japanese in WW2 for example. There were US pilots that dove into targets. IIRC, Doolittle told his raiders that he would do that if it became apparent he wasn't going to be able to keep flying.
This idea might slow some of them down. Maybe. But today I saw a Moslem girl in traditional dress working behind the deli counter at the grocery. She was manually piling up the smoked ham for a customer. Was it the little latex glove that allowed this? What if it tore or slipped?
I'm sorry, I'm just unconvinced.
I am convinced of this, however. The world outcry over the US using the pig parts as shields would be fun to watch.
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"Pig blood on the bodies of extremists "
If some new young band doesn't pick that for their band name they are missing the boat big time.
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Captain Pork,
This has to be one of the stupid ideas I've ever heard of.
Ravs
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The idea is to deny them entry into heaven, since that's the driving force behind the actions of those who actually commit the actions.
These fanatics believe that infidels can do nothing to keep them out of paradise. So there would be no deterent effect from a policy like this.
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Originally posted by ravells
Captain Pork,
This has to be one of the stupid ideas I've ever heard of.
Ravs
Why?
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I think you should deface thier dead anyway that makes you feel better. They seem to be doing so to your dead.
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Who’s going to be the first to lead the, Pig Blood Battalion into action?
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Judging by the other thread, AWMac's already got his pig-blood water balloons ready to fly.
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Originally posted by Pongo
I think you should deface thier dead anyway that makes you feel better. They seem to be doing so to your dead.
You seem to think Canada is not involved in this.
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Sure, lets dust their corpses with pig blood. Then they'll feed some journalist his eyes. Then we'll spray their neigborhoods with pigs blood. Then they'll unleash gunmen in the US. Then we'll poison their water supply with blood.
Its the natural progression of the peace process.
You people make me sick. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is no better than the individuals who beheaded Berg.
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Im in favor of taking a lesson from Putin.
Nothing wrong with actually making them afraid to die instead of looking forward to it.
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Originally posted by hawker238
Then they'll unleash gunmen in the US.
You think they wouldn't do that anyway if they had the chance?
Boo Hoo for the poor terrorists. Big bad Westerners are discussing desecrating their remains on a BBS... Real good comparison to cold blooded murderers.
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Originally posted by ravells
Captain Pork,
This has to be one of the stupid ideas I've ever heard of.
Ravs
Oh, I don't know, Ravs. The Brits did it in Afghanistan during the 19th century and the Americans did it in the Phillipines right before WW1.
In both cases, it was extremely effective! Granted, it wouldn't have an impact on the planners of terrorist activities, but the poor boobs serving with them would be terrified of such a death.
curly
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Originally posted by rpm371
We should develop some sort of Pig's Blood Bullet for the troops to use.
This was the direct cause of an Indian uprising against the brits. I don't remember the details, but you had to bite something from the round before you loaded it. Someone started a rumor the round was greased with pork fat and a fair number of brits were killed by Indian/brit troops.
curly
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Sometimes the intellectual level of the O'Club is amazing.
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Originally posted by hawker238
Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is no better than the individuals who beheaded Berg.
Defiling a corpse is pretty retarded, but it's not in the same ballpark as murder, it's not even the same ****in sport.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Sometimes the intellectual level of the O'Club is amazing.
You need to hang out at more trailer parks. The amazement wears off. ;)
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ahhh relativity is a wonderful thing..
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Why?
For the reasons that Hawker and ra gave.
Curly: I don't think you can use 19th Century solutions today (as you well know, you troller you ;) ). To tell the truth I hadn't heard that the Brits had used the 'pig's blood' thing on the Northwest Frontier, although it wouldn't surprise me. I do remember reading in some history book somewhere that when the Brits caught a Pathan on the North West frontier, they would spread him eagled in the parade ground and every soldier passing him was obliged to kick him in the 'Punjabs' as hard as he could. The Pathans would emasculate Brit corpses and put their bits in their mouths. It was all pretty horrible out there.
They say that part of the reason for the Indian mutiny was the paper cartridges that the sepoys (the Indians serving in the British aka East India Company army) were greased with cow's fat, but I think that was only a tiny contributory reason and got a lot of coverage because it made a good story.
Ravs
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
Captain Pork,
This has to be one of the stupid ideas I've ever heard of.
Ravs
but briliant way, how to associate Muslim with Terrorism
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Then they'll unleash gunmen in the US.
Nah, they dont like it when people fight back.
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You know what I mean. The fact that so many of you are considering this is shamefu.l
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Originally posted by hawker238
You know what I mean. The fact that so many of you are considering this is shamefu.l
how? if there blowing themselves up then theres no question that they are terrorists/mass murderers...and "we" wouldent be desecrating there bodies, they would..."were" just hanging a bag of blood on a bus...
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I meant if they actually did it to the bodies directly. Nevertheless, you're still advocating dropping to their level.
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Terrorism will end when everyone has more reasons to live than to die.
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A little pig blood/fat never hurt anyone. If it will stop some lunatic from killing himself along with many innocents then absolutely use it. I have my doubts about it's effectiveness though.
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Originally posted by Halo
Terrorism will end when everyone has more reasons to live than to die.
that's the way I see it too Halo
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Arm the troops with support supersoakers full of pig blood :D
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Originally posted by DrDea
Arm the troops with support supersoakers full of pig blood :D
Kinda like pepper spray, only more effective! :D
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Originally posted by AKIron
A little pig blood/fat never hurt anyone. If it will stop some lunatic from killing himself along with many innocents then absolutely use it. I have my doubts about it's effectiveness though.
honestly even if its completly inneffective its worth a shot...and if it doesnt what have we lost? a couple quarts of pig blood (because they would have done it anyway pig blood or no)...
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omg! There's PIG BLOOD on my smoker grill today!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h~
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Hmmmm take a chitload of Hogs.... shove TNT and nails up there Butts...long fuses, light it and send them running thru all the Mosques.... or we can revert to Napalm and Tac Nukes.... But the thought of a watermelon load of running screaming Muslims with AK's dodging squealing exploding pigs arouses me.... could also air drop the pigs...
Pork that's whats for Terror!
Retired Army... yeah it's morbid but so is war... think I need help? bite me!
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Ohhhh better yet... pump rocket fuel up a pigs arse and send the Ham flyin at Mach 4!
Pork Chops for everyone!
Imagine the look on a Al Quada's face seeing a porker screaming, butt trails smokin, heading straight towards his lil hidin place?
LOL Mach OINK... be afraid Terrorist, be very afraid.
And not to mention that the American pig farmers would prosper in the whole ordeal it's a Win-Win situation...
Pig Farmers get rich, Muslium Terrorist never reach Martydom..
Check Mate!
No applause please, throw money...still upgrading to play AH2.
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The pig thing was better... we could also shove a bit o tnt up Hanoi Jane and let her hang on to a Mach 4 Piggy....heehee Biyatch!
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They said that the guy that made the Pet Rock got millions... Just think how much I'd make with Mach4 Oinkers... watermelon paint a few black and launch em at night... Stealth Pork, Pigs on the Wing, Chops Ahoy, Pork Grinds...I'm on a roll here.... Carpet Pig's in a Blanket the AO. Bet they'd scream like Stukas in a dive!!!!
LOL I need help.....NOT!
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Just paint up a billboard with a big ole picture of Oprah on it and have the text "All of the 72 virgins you are getting look like this....or worse. Think before you press the detonator!"
:p
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AWMac, you can't have conversations with yourself here.
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Originally posted by Halo
Terrorism will end when everyone has more reasons to live than to die.
Think about it...
You get married. According to the popular bylaws of marriage you are to be with this one woman for the rest of your life... The idea of sleeping with the same chick for the remainder of your life(30-50) years, scares many guys.
Okay, now you're in eternity. You're there, for the rest of time. God has granted you the gift he promised. 72 virgins who somehow managed to remain virgins while at the same time honing some mind-bending sexual-techniques.
You have a good ole time tagging their brains out for the first couple centuries... But after two or three millenia, maybe four, you'll inevitably grow tired of the six dozen and then what happens? You seek relief in the only way you can by going next door to fool around with some of Abu's freaks. Ten or twenty thousand years down the line everyone's pissed again, just like they were on Earth; the bars are packed with disgruntled martyrs who're looking to get loaded and stick their schlongs into anything so long as it doesn't live under their roof.
Result?
All out war in heaven.
Viola. There's your reason to spend more time looking for unattached virgins(or, at the very least, chicks with mind-bending sexual techniques)here on earth.
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AWmac
Stop it you're killing me.
I could actually visualize most of those things.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Originally posted by hawker238
AWMac, you can't have conversations with yourself here.
Well if you do it in real life you can probably do it in here too....where is Mr Black when we need him?
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Capt Pork,
I'm just wondering if you were strapped to a bus, if it would stop a terrorist.
let me know, thx
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Originally posted by Kanth
Capt Pork,
I'm just wondering if you were strapped to a bus, if it would stop a terrorist.
let me know, thx
Only on Wednesday
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Originally posted by ra
You seem to think Canada is not involved in this.
Sure I know we are involved in it. People forget how they felt when the Iraqis burt a few bodies and dragged em through the streets. People were ready to nuke the whole country.