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Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 11:03:12 AM
Damn...another boring race, and the same winner AGAIN :rolleyes:

getting tired of this.














Now...lets see if my prediction is correct. hope not. Enjoy it if you have a chanse to see it live :)
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Monk on June 20, 2004, 11:16:20 AM
It will be.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: DrDea on June 20, 2004, 11:50:06 AM
Was watching the qualifying yesterday.Thats a great job they did of setting that up in 2 weeks after Indy.Afraid I wont be watching it tho except for spot checks.Im watching MIS and the Nascar race :)
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 12:31:19 PM
Typical.....following the race on http://www.f1.com i read about crashes and other entertaining elements. Cant wait to get F1 back to europe. :)
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 01:45:21 PM
oh well, atleast my guy got 4th.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Dinger on June 20, 2004, 01:46:52 PM
shocker in gloomtown!
Gotta suck for JPM too.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 01:54:46 PM
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Originally posted by Dinger
shocker in gloomtown!
Gotta suck for JPM too.


Yeah...

ROFL.....McLaren managed to sneak past Sauber in the constructors championship :lol
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: cpxxx on June 20, 2004, 02:35:31 PM
Boring? Not today OK Michael won again but there was plenty of action for once.  Poor Ralph will have to watch the replay to see what happened to him.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: FUNKED1 on June 20, 2004, 02:47:25 PM
Sato pwn5
Title: Re: F1 Usa
Post by: Gh0stFT on June 20, 2004, 03:29:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
the same winner AGAIN :rolleyes:

getting tired of this.


Hey ban M.Schumacher?!!! LOL


Schumi is unbelievably, i mean who else
wins after win after win... and this in F1!
not a 2nd class race sport.

R
Gh0stFT




Schumi first, everything else simply to slow
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 03:36:54 PM
Not saying he isnt a good driver, its just that any sport with one very dominant athlete is bad for the sport in the long run and makes it less entertaining.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Otto on June 20, 2004, 03:45:06 PM
What type of Transmission are they using?  It looks like some type of Automatic with an electric shifter on the Steering Wheel.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 20, 2004, 03:48:47 PM
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Originally posted by Otto
What type of Transmission are they using?  It looks like some type of Automatic with an electric shifter on the Steering Wheel.


no idea, but today it looked like several of them had Ctrl+Alt+Delete on the wheel :p
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Staga on June 20, 2004, 03:52:46 PM
Semi-automatic with up- and downshift buttons in steering wheel + a button or two for pre-selected shifts like straight from 6 to 3 etc.
Damn steeringwheel costs more than a familysedan.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Gh0stFT on June 20, 2004, 03:53:13 PM
Nilsen, i just think oposite, ok as a german naturaly i'm Schumi fan,
but i really wish to see another race driver who can beat
Schumi, but right now there is just no one.
Once i was a BIG Senna Fan and didnt liked the new one
called "Schumi", and today he is the new Senna, dominating
everything and fascinating us fans. But dont forgett he is simply
a human being and not a god, F1 is dangerous.

R
Gh0stFT
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Otto on June 20, 2004, 05:23:05 PM
Thanks Staga,  I knew there was something going on that I didn't understand.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Lizking on June 20, 2004, 05:39:02 PM
You can't call a driver dominant in a series that allows so much differention in the cars.  It doesn't make it a bad series, it just means that a monkey could drive that car and win.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 20, 2004, 06:46:50 PM
God help the rest of the field when Kimi gets a car that works.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: DrDea on June 20, 2004, 07:40:51 PM
Yo mazz check the sig:aok
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 20, 2004, 09:09:59 PM
LOL!  :D
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: DrDea on June 20, 2004, 09:46:50 PM
I just today found that thread and those 2 lines cracked me up.I figgured they were worth seeing a few more times.God that thread was a riot  :)
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 21, 2004, 02:22:08 AM
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Originally posted by TW9
yah micheal jordan and wayne gretzky really hurt their sports too.. and um the yankees hurt baseball.. :rolleyes:


Dont know about those fellas, but the interest in F1 worldwide in numbers of viewers are down. :rolleyes:
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: DrDea on June 21, 2004, 02:33:18 AM
Not big on F1 but I respect the talent.Those guys got HUGE balls.200 + at talladegha AINT 200+ at a road course
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: -tronski- on June 21, 2004, 02:55:05 AM
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Originally posted by Lizking
You can't call a driver dominant in a series that allows so much differention in the cars.  It doesn't make it a bad series, it just means that a monkey could drive that car and win.


Hardly, Shuey performs in cars that are lesser than it's rivals, like last years 2003GA and more so Shuey dominates because of the way he drives. No-one can pull the required consistant laps like he can especially in the cruicial few laps before a pit stop. Ross Brawn and Ferrari can plan race winning strategies because of Schumacher's ability to drive the way the team needs him too.

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Originally posted by Nilsen
Dont know about those fellas, but the interest in F1 worldwide in numbers of viewers are down. :rolleyes:


In more traditional markets to a certain degree yes but in others not so,  in areas where FIA is pushing F1, the middle east, china, malaysia/indonesia ratings are constantly rising.

 Tronsky
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 21, 2004, 03:26:05 AM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Hardly, Shuey performs in cars that are lesser than it's rivals, like last years 2003GA and more so Shuey dominates because of the way he drives. No-one can pull the required consistant laps like he can especially in the cruicial few laps before a pit stop. Ross Brawn and Ferrari can plan race winning strategies because of Schumacher's ability to drive the way the team needs him too.

 Tronsky


Yes, he may have a slight edge over other drivers, but if you put Fisichella (example) in a ferrari and schumi in a sauber the ferrari would still win. If you had both drivers in the same car i would guess shumi would win but not by a huge margin. The overall skill level of the drivers in F1 today is very high except perhaps for a few drivers that have bought themselves seats. Fisi, Raik, Alonso, Trulli, Montoya, Webber, sato and button are all capable of winning the championship if given the best car AND team.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: rpm on June 21, 2004, 03:32:46 AM
I don't follow F1 closely but I know Schumacher is dominating the sport as of late. It happens in every series eventually where one driver is in the zone and all anyone can do is sit back and watch him win. Steve Kinser, Jeff Gordon, "Hurricane" Bob Hannah, Dale Earnhardt, Emerson Fittipaldi, John Force and Mario Andretti are just a few names that come to mind.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: -tronski- on June 21, 2004, 04:07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes, he may have a slight edge over other drivers, but if you put Fisichella (example) in a ferrari and schumi in a sauber the ferrari would still win. If you had both drivers in the same car i would guess shumi would win but not by a huge margin. The overall skill level of the drivers in F1 today is very high except perhaps for a few drivers that have bought themselves seats. Fisi, Raik, Alonso, Trulli, Montoya, Webber, sato and button are all capable of winning the championship if given the best car AND team.


True, put Fisi in the F2004, and Shuey in the Sauber C23 and Fisi would beat Shuey, but could you be certain that Fisi would beat Shuey everytime and by what margin?

Co-drivers are an excellent way to measure certain drivers. Often I have wondered instead of Barrichello trundling around what if JPM was given the second Ferrari seat. But don't forget, Ferrari weren't the best team when Shuey went to Maranello...far from it.
Ferrari are the team that Shumacher help build, and thats also where Shumacher dominates. Like Senna he is the consumate communicator to team engineers. Put Montoya in the '96 Ferrari/Team and would Ferrari be where it is today?

Alonso, Trulli, Button are all excellent drivers, and imo at least one will be world champion sooner rather than later.

 Tronsky
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: Nilsen on June 21, 2004, 04:52:15 AM
Yup. One of shumis greatests strengths is his ability to work with the team and explain to them what needs to be done etc and help build the team. At that...a "teamdriver" he is truly a great athlete. Its if you only measure pure driving skills that it gets more complicated to find the greatest driver. Shumi does not only drive for his team like so many others do.....he is part of the team from top to bottom.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: J318 on June 21, 2004, 04:32:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
Once i was a BIG Senna Fan and didnt liked the new one
called "Schumi", and today he is the new Senna, dominating
everything and fascinating us fans. But dont forgett he is simply
a human being and not a god, F1 is dangerous.
 


Are you saying that 'don't worry he's got to die sooner or later?' lol  :confused:
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
oh well, atleast my guy got 4th.


teeth or month ?

or kilo ?
:)
Title: Re: Re: F1 Usa
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:09:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
Hey ban M.Schumacher?!!! LOL


Schumi is unbelievably, i mean who else
wins after win after win... and this in F1!
not a 2nd class race sport.

R
Gh0stFT




Schumi first, everything else simply to slow


Maijkl forewer :lol
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: SLO on June 21, 2004, 08:34:09 PM
money put into developement...

Ferrari = 350 million(owns private race track...wind tunnel)

Minardi= 50 million(owns nothing)


oh ya.....good for racing

Chit load of money....good engineers...good driver = good team

Frank Williams is the only one that spends 1/2 what others put for developement and still win races
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: MrCoffee on June 21, 2004, 10:32:51 PM
So you are saying there are lotsa variables in F1 racing? I agree. thought US GP was a good race. Those cars are so dam maneuverable.
Title: F1 Usa
Post by: senna on June 21, 2004, 10:43:03 PM
All the F1 drivers are essentially excellent (best of the best) however... Schumacher is still driving at his best even at his age. Things will start to slow down though. Hes an amazing driver to watch.

Now the US GP was entertaining however I think the US GP should be more grand. I've been thinking about this since Le Mans. I think the US GP should be held on a bigger track like Le Mans between 8-12 miles.