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Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Rafe35 on June 20, 2004, 06:06:51 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.main/index.html
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on June 21, 2004, 02:08:39 AM
What's with this beheading stuff, shooting not good enough for anyone anymore?
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 21, 2004, 07:11:27 AM
It's an Islamic terrorist tactic. Started again recently with the murder of journalist Daniel Pearle. It is not really beheading in the "normal" sense of the term. It is a slow decapitation. They start with the throat and cut towards the spine with a knife, as opposed to a single stroke with an ax or large sword from the spine to the throat. Just a horrific way they like to kill people, because they like to kill people. They feel it has more shock and horror value. They do not realize it pisses off the rest of the world, and deepens the resolve to wipe them off the face of the earth.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: SunTracker on June 21, 2004, 09:21:55 AM
South Koreans have gotten soft in the last 40 years.  But I do hope they send troops (special forces) to hunt down the guys holding this hostage.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: stiehl on June 21, 2004, 09:53:01 AM
the ROK has had troops in Iraq for at least a year
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Yeager on June 21, 2004, 10:17:16 AM
I wonder if Korea will pull a "Spain Special"....
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 10:23:41 AM
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
What's with this beheading stuff, shooting not good enough for anyone anymore?


Its kinda sensation for US's media and their costumers as you can see. It makes them very excited somehow.


Most interesting will be comment of ROK goverment about it.
Title: Re: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Krusher on June 21, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
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Originally posted by Rafe35
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.main/index.html


It would be intersting if they decided to increase the troop level based on this threat.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Sikboy on June 21, 2004, 10:56:39 AM
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Originally posted by stiehl
the ROK has had troops in Iraq for at least a year


Those being the Troops Sun Tracker hopes they will send to find the guy.

-Sik
Title: Re: Re: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 11:01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Krusher
It would be intersting if they decided to increase the troop level based on this threat.


or they will leave sooner because of shifting of power.
Untill power transformation it were favour for US

Actualy Iraqi goverment seems to be interesting, they already b|tch US for killing many civilians in Faludja
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: muckmaw on June 21, 2004, 11:05:39 AM
Terrorists playing up th get more media attention.

This is front page stuff here, folks.

I wonder what would happen if they committed another atrocity and the media simply refused to report the gory details.

I wonder what would happen if an errant cruise missle knocked out Al-Jihaada.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Pollock on June 21, 2004, 11:12:16 AM
Not sure on the accuracy of this report but it sounds like the right course of action.

HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS......  it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S.  history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped.  It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen.  John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison.  There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style.  The U.S.  soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat.  Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood.  This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies.  The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others.  This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah.  Like Gen.  Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Eagler on June 21, 2004, 11:21:07 AM
the SK is toast - once you make the video, you're done

but the beheadings will work against the terrorists as anyone with half a brain who they claim to represent, realizes they do not want their religion or themselves represented by such animals and their barbaric acts..
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 11:23:42 AM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
I wonder what would happen if they committed another atrocity and the media simply refused to report the gory details.

I wonder what would happen if an errant cruise missle knocked out Al-Jihaada.


One thing is refuse to report it and second thing is to put it on front page.

Since we read about sutch article and watch all those adv. all around we can say that it suport economy :D
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: midnight Target on June 21, 2004, 11:32:09 AM
RE: Pershing and the Pigs Blood

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In one sense, messages such as the ones quoted above could be considered as silly as Muslims' proclaiming that a good way to throw the USA into disarray would be to "bomb" America with juicy steaks on Fridays, because "Americans are Christians," and "everyone knows Christians who eat meat on Fridays go to Hell."  


http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm
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We haven't eliminated ruling out the possibility that Pershing at some point chose to deal with a group of "Mohammedan fanatics" in a manner similar to the one described above, but so far all we've turned up are several different accounts and nothing that documents Pershing's involvement.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: muckmaw on June 21, 2004, 11:51:58 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
RE: Pershing and the Pigs Blood

 

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.htm



Saw that on Snopes, MT..

Too lazy to cut and paste, though.

Thanks.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Pollock on June 21, 2004, 11:56:15 AM
Obviously we cant do what Pershing did.  I was just talking mad.  I have alot of hate for these animals and want them erased from the earth.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: -MZ- on June 21, 2004, 12:21:39 PM
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Originally posted by Pollock
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style.  



Women and children also.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: captg on June 21, 2004, 03:10:29 PM
If they are fanatics and would kill others...yep.  It is a mindset we need to exterminate not just "men of Islamic faith"...it is the radical few (men and women) who use religion to justify killing of innocent women and children that need dealing with...and if it takes slaughtering pigs to make a point...so be it.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: -MZ- on June 21, 2004, 04:10:49 PM
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Originally posted by captg
if it takes slaughtering pigs to make a point...so be it.


You'd have made a good nazi.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Tex68 on June 21, 2004, 05:03:10 PM
So you see these people as rational???  You have ideas on how to deal with them in a humane way which will in turn get them to return the favor?

I'd love to hear your suggestions...
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Tex68 on June 21, 2004, 05:05:30 PM
Wait...I get it...you are a Liberal...you ignore the substance of the post and pick out the worst part, take it out of context, and use it for your own purposes...check...now I understand...

Would still love to hear ideas as long as they don't involve going through the UN...
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: captg on June 21, 2004, 05:08:42 PM
Spot on Tex...couldn't have said it any better...

I'd like to hear his/her ideas too...:aok
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:31:55 PM
There is some process, how to produce some kind of sweet.
You take death annimals and put them into something what we call "cafileria" and then small sweets like "Haribo" come out.
Im not sure if they adding death pigs as well, but it would be interesting to add some extremist there as well and eat them.

Kinda transformation into food could be a bit more ugly that death, coz you can imagine what you will became :D

how ever i do not belive that its way to suppres it.

If they will lose support from local folk, whitch they have now, it will be much more effective.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:33:49 PM
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Originally posted by -MZ-
You'd have made a good nazi.



i would not call him Nazi.... he is just fanatic, as those guys who support terrorists, but he support diferent terrorist group.

Its funny to see how both think that they are right isnt it ?
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 21, 2004, 05:42:05 PM
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Originally posted by -MZ-
You'd have made a good nazi.


I think you misread what he wrote.

Try again.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: FUNKED1 on June 21, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
And MZ godwins the thread...
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: -MZ- on June 21, 2004, 06:02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tex68
Would still love to hear ideas as long as they don't involve going through the UN...


For stopping the insurgency?  

Send more troops, get the security situation under control.  Send massive aid and make sure it is being spent properly.  Hold elections.  Get out.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: -MZ- on June 21, 2004, 06:04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I think you misread what he wrote.

Try again.


Seemed like a call to repeat America's actions in the Philipines. Perhaps I was reading too much into it by assuming he was even aware of what happend there.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: captg on June 21, 2004, 08:00:08 PM
Let me repeat the part I think you skipped MZ...

"If they are fanatics and would kill others...yep. It is a mindset we need to exterminate not just "men of Islamic faith"...it is the radical few (men and women) who use religion to justify killing of innocent women and children that need dealing with..."

...and for lada...people can believe what they want...I have my opinions, but they are just that...AND they don't require I kill anyone on behalf of my God...as for me being a terrorist...how silly is that.  We make people get naked and take a few pictures, and we have disgraced humanity (for the record I completly think that was wrong...the making them get naked part even if they aren't "lawful combatants" and are afforded no special treatment under the Geneva Convention)...the other side chops off heads and people make excuses and say it is justified (for the record I think that is orders of magnitude MORE wrong).  Liberators are not terrorists...get it straight...TERRORist has a root word and it doesn't carry the definition of "setting people free".

Oh...and MZ...still waiting on your ideas for dealing with that type of person...when you are ready.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: VOR on June 21, 2004, 08:05:29 PM
It never takes long for the so-and-so is a Nazi/Hitler bit to come out of the woodwork.

What national socialism has to do the Phillipines is beyond me! ;)
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Momus-- on June 22, 2004, 02:24:56 AM
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 22, 2004, 06:30:35 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.





:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: VOR on June 22, 2004, 07:57:48 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.


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Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 22, 2004, 08:03:47 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.


Don't you just love how simple minded people like to run their mouths about a country but don't have enough sense or guts to put their location in their profile?
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: lazs2 on June 22, 2004, 08:07:32 AM
you are not gonna hear any "ideas" from the liberals... they either don't have a clue or... they know that they will be laughed off the board if they say what they really think... they have to settle for sniping at any real efforts.  

When people are being tortured and starved the liberals scream that we must do something...  when someone does it is allways a right winger so they get angry and pout.   How many people were tortured every year and what kind of threat was the sadman when we used the liberal "solution" of having the U.N. make speeches and write nasty letters?

lazs
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: storch on June 22, 2004, 09:44:14 AM
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Originally posted by Momus--
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  Where are you from mr simple minds?
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: captg on June 22, 2004, 10:09:16 AM
Most trigger happy nation...you have GOT to be kidding!  Just because we have the biggest gun doesn't mean we are the most trigger happy.  BUT...when we use it, you know it.    

BTW...I too would like to know your country of origin momus....assuming we can get an honest response out of you...

Waiting....


ps.  High-5 to Lazs...
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Yeager on June 22, 2004, 12:01:24 PM
CNN trying to confirm the Hostage has been murdered.  Gotta love those islamic militants.......
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Nilsen on June 22, 2004, 12:28:50 PM
south koreans now says he has lost his head. they have found the body.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Eagler on June 22, 2004, 12:36:20 PM
and they gained what with that, another, senseless slaughter?

they are so ignorant that they do not realize that with each throat they cut, they cut their own as true the Islamic followers run from any association to them and their animalistic actions
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: captg on June 22, 2004, 12:46:55 PM
This is something else I would like lada and MZ to explain...rationalize this for the rest of us, and make us understand how you put us in the same grouping as these animals...???
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Yeager on June 22, 2004, 01:05:41 PM
There's something about citizens of the most trigger happy nation in recent history calling others barbaric that strikes me as curiously ironic if not downright perverse.
=====
here is the rambling of a islamic terror sympathizer.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: jetb123 on June 22, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
They did it.....:(
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 22, 2004, 04:56:18 PM
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Originally posted by storch
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl  Where are you from mr simple minds?


Hey, back off, I'm working this angle. You find your gig.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: -MZ- on June 23, 2004, 11:54:50 AM
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Originally posted by captg
Oh...and MZ...still waiting on your ideas for dealing with that type of person...when you are ready.


No one disputes that members of the Islamic Diaper Head Mafia need killing, but I don't believe in collective punishment of civilian populations.
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: Sikboy on June 23, 2004, 12:07:11 PM
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Originally posted by -MZ-
No one disputes that members of the Islamic Diaper Head Mafia need killing, but I don't believe in collective punishment of civilian populations.


Puss

-Sik
Title: Militants threaten to behead South Korean hostage
Post by: storch on June 23, 2004, 01:31:36 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Hey, back off, I'm working this angle. You find your gig.

duly noted complaint verified.  Please accept my sincere apology.  Go on pounding the dimwits.