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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Nilsen on June 21, 2004, 05:39:59 AM
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For all you fellow jug fans out there.....how does the feel and performance of the jugs seem to you guys in AH2 compared to AH1? Has it changed for the better or is it about the same?
Also looking for screenies of the jugs in AH2 if any of you have any :)
id also like to hear from you wildcat fans.
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Oh yeah, nothing like the performance of a nice pair of jugs.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Oh yeah, nothing like the performance of a nice pair of jugs.
PERV! :D
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Originally posted by Nilsen
PERV! :D
Perv?
Liking a good set of Jugs seems perfectly natural to me.
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I wonder how long that angle is gonna get milked?
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I cant tell much difference, now that the bug is squashed. I have heard others say they are different. Most of the people told me they thought the P-47's were not as good in AH2.
The planes that I can tell a difference in are the P-51D (seems much better than before), F4U (better), F190A (worse), G10 (better). I haven't flown everything though, and these are only my perceptions!:)
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Ok, you have hijacked it........any chanse we can get back on track? :p
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D11 seems a bit too light..Maybe Pyro has to add some weight.?
:D
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Thx ammo and SirLoin.
No Sir....no extra weight is needed thank you :D
Doesnt anyone have any screenies of the AH2 jugs?
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Okay I have flown the P47D11 and P47D40 a bit. And I like them better in AH2.
I find the P47 a touch more maneuverable than before. I was able to give some spits and LA7s a seriously hard time in them down low. Yes, the Spit eventually pulled away and got on my six but they had to work for it a lot more than usual.
So overall feel is they are a bit more responsive when you have speed. When you don't have speed they feel a bit more sluggish to me.
In dives they definitely have gained over AH2 .. they dive now like nobodies business and zoom climbs are something to see.
Their ruggedness also now really comes into play. With the new more exacting GM basically overall I can count on nme planes getting less sustained burst on me. Resulting in a hit or two with shells. So far I have flown home from several encounters with Spits at 200 yrds on my six. Before at the 200-400 yard range in AH1 and I was dead. Now with some jinking I am able to hold them off until the P47 starts to pull away. Plus, a single or two hits while damaging is not enough to kill the P47. In AH1 at that range they would be lighting me up like a xmas tree.
Overall I like the jugs in AH2 and so far have done with the best with them in combat (well them and the F4U-1C).
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I have only played around in the d-11 but I find it equates about the same as in AH1. The differences I see after the damage fix is mostly due to the overall change to FM for all models and the changes to gunnery. With the longer range hits being less easily obtained you have more chance to manuever with the normal turners. Of course this might change when everyone has more of a chance to adjust from AH1 "tactics" to AH2 "tactics".
In short, the P47 is just as fun as it always was with the bonus of having to learn it again.
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Differences from AHI are small but are generally for the better.
Inertia seems somewhat better in all planes which is good for the jug. Many planes have nasty stalls and dangerous spins while the jug is very gentle and easy to recover. Throttle management is necesery if you want to fly light. Yes you can load up the fuel and go full throttle across the map, but then you are a flying whale. it eats the fuel at 550 gallons/hour while most fighters drink 300-350 GPH. (fuel burn multi is 2). With the harder gunnery, having 8*0.5 and 3400 round for them is great.
Bozon
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Funny - I thought this was gonna be something about MORPHEUS's avatar....:D
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The P47 has always had the reputation of being a stable/docile aircraft even at stall speeds.. In AH2 with the better stall model, this attribute is very noticeable during hammerheads, rope a dopes and bleeding energy turns into full flap turns to out radii the enemy for a gun solution...
Compared to the super torque 109 its night and day in regards to handling at stall speeds... (not to say the p47 outturns the 109 it just lumbers around as opposed to the squirelly behavior of the 109 or any other super powerful engine mounted on a light airframe...)
Gunnery with the 8 50's is better because the newer dispersion model makes gunnery tougher in general.. With 8 50's staggered at 275 and 300m (4 guns each) I have no problem landing solid hits on enemy aircraft.. your throwing alot of lead thru the air so go figure..
Proformance from AH1 in regards to accel and topspeed remains unchanged imo..
2 cents..
DoctorYO
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thx all :)
Now...how about those screenies pretty please.
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i still i get forced to land because of pilot wound 8 out of 10 times in the jug
im not joking i get more pliot wounds in that plane then anyother plane:rolleyes:
the 109G-6 seems to handle alot better
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Haven't compared the jug in a climb yet. But have head that the P47D40 performs better now .. paddle blade?
As for pilot wounds and front end damage seems to me that I take more oil hits and pilot wounds in the P47D11 than in the P47D40. But could have just been bad luck over last couple of days.
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I didn't noticed a difference in either performances or gunery. But my Ah1 days are far away now:)
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I haven't had a chance to really truly explore the AH2 P-47 flight model. I did notice a gain in climb rate (better than 4,000 fpm with 25% fuel from sea level).
I do know that in AH1, configuration was everything. I would fly the P-47D-30 (now the -40) with 50% internal fuel and the belly tank. I would select the 6 gun option and also select the short clip of 267 rounds per gun. Agility was substantially improved, and climb rate was terrific once the drop tank was dumped (about 3,800 fpm at 50% fuel, 3,950 at 25% fuel from sea level).
Therefore, since the P-47D-40 climbs better, it probably accelerates better as well. Adding in improved stall behavior, I suspect that all P-47s are a bit more capable than in AH1.
Note also that if you use auto-climb for climb-out, you will see a substantial increase in climb when you pass 4,000 feet.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
I would fly the P-47D-30 (now the -40) with 50% internal fuel and the belly tank. I would select the 6 gun option and also select the short clip of 267 rounds per gun.
:confused: I'd rather fly a P51.:rofl
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Pictures damnit :D
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Originally posted by Lazer
Pictures damnit :D
lol yeah.
So.....we have the D40 not and not the 30?. Interesting :)
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So.....we have the D40 not and not the 30?. Interesting
no nilsen.
we HAD the D40 and not the D30...
Bozon
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Originally posted by bozon
no nilsen.
we HAD the D40 and not the D30...
Bozon
Aha, so HTC just made a mistake calling it the D30 when it actually had the specs of a D40?