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Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Krusher on June 21, 2004, 11:47:31 AM
I bet they don't hold them for very long.


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran said Monday it had confiscated three British naval vessels and arrested eight armed crew members. The Royal Navy acknowledged it had lost contact with three small patrol boats on a routine mission in the waterway between Iraq and Iran.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 01:07:01 PM
I'm betting you're right. Unless they're looking to start WWIII.
Title: Re: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Eagler on June 21, 2004, 01:14:25 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
I bet they don't hold them for very long.


TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran said Monday it had confiscated three British naval vessels and arrested eight armed crew members. The Royal Navy acknowledged it had lost contact with three small patrol boats on a routine mission in the waterway between Iraq and Iran.


we can always hope
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 01:18:08 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I'm betting you're right. Unless they're looking to start WWIII.


How is it related to WWIII ?

edit.: actualy they claim to confiscate these boats include weapons and maps

I dont thing they will give these things back, i guess they will just realese "sailors"
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 01:46:04 PM
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Originally posted by lada
How is it related to WWIII ?

edit.: actualy they claim to confiscate these boats include weapons and maps

I dont thing they will give these things back, i guess they will just realese "sailors"


I don't imagine the Brits will stand by and allow their troops to be held captive for long. An invasion perhaps? Where do you think this would lead?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:06:42 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I don't imagine the Brits will stand by and allow their troops to be held captive for long. An invasion perhaps? Where do you think this would lead?


LOL

since british troops enter their waters w/o permition, they made a mistake...

London will use pure diplomatic way as german did, when one young german guy got death penality for his stupidity. (it took 2 years)



Name me one country whitch has been invaded, because sutch thing.

Dont you think, that London should appologize and apply sincerely for release of their troops instead of brave  words ?

Or should they be cool and move there some of their funny jets?


What should be proper attitude of London in this case in your opinion ?


btw.: forget seals and sutch crap, US did try once in past
:D
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:12:44 PM
Who said the Brits were in Iran's waters? Wars have been fought over such matters.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:23:45 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Who said the Brits were in Iran's waters? Wars have been fought over such matters.


Wow im sorry to be missinformed by Iranian national news agency
link (http://www.irna.ir/?LANG=EN&PART=_NEWS&TYPE=GE&id=20040621173616F01&start_grd=)

btw lets see who make bussines with most evil regimes on the earth... i wonder where did they take that F-14s
F14 (http://www.irna.ir/?LANG=EN&PART=_NEWS&TYPE=GE&id=20040621174052F01&start_grd=)

Can you name me one war between non-thirdworld countries  whitch started coz of similary problem ?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:28:07 PM
You're kidding right? I can name a lot of wars that started over territorial disputes. That is what this is and if Iran wants to get their butts kicked in a big way they'll try to hold on to those troops. Of course who knows what may happen in the process.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Yeager on June 21, 2004, 02:33:27 PM
non issue.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:36:29 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
non issue.


I agree but only because I think Iran will return those guys pretty quick.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:36:35 PM
So i hope you agree to know nothing about this problem, since you didnt even know that they were probably armed and they entered Iranian waters.

Iranian guards showed they good habbits, since they didnt blow them.

If you were one of those iranian guards, i guess these brits were probably history now.

If Brits will cross national water of ZAR and they will be arested, they should do the same... appology and apply for release.

You seems to be blinded by hate. Whats wrong with you ?


btw.: Name me one war, whitch started by sutch thing and i will be happy. Im not kidding, but i realy can not recall even one.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:38:13 PM
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Originally posted by lada
So i hope you agree to know nothing about this problem, since you didnt even know that they were probably armed and they entered Iranian waters.

Iranian guards showed they good habbits, since they didnt blow them.

If you were one of those iranian guards, i guess these brits were probably history now.

If Brits will cross national water of ZAR and they will be arested, they should do the same... appology and apply for release.

You seems to be blinded by hate. Whats wrong with you ?


btw.: Name me one war, whitch started by sutch thing and i will be happy. Im not kidding, but i realy can not recall even one.


Easy enough, the waterway these guys were in, dividing Iraq and Iran, was one of the reasons for the Iraq/Iran war.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:39:30 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I agree but only because I think Iran will return those guys pretty quick.


And 70 mil. people in Iran hope that Brits will explain what their armed ships did in their national waters w/o permition.

I do not see any reason why should it be done quickly..

It should be done properly and it will be done so, coz UK nor iran are not offensive agressors.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:40:46 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Easy enough, the waterway these guys were in, dividing Iraq and Iran, was one of the reasons for the Iraq/Iran war.


LOL

hehee... Saddam Hussein claimed a bit diferent things when war started.
Are you sure ?

i just googled this
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 War between Iran and Iraq, lasting from 1980 to 1988.
The background for the war was disagreements on the borderline between the two countries, stemming back to 1971, when Iran occupied a couple of Iraqi islands in the Persian Gulf near the outlet of Shatt El Arab. Iraq was also objecting the Islamist propaganda that was transmitted from Iran to Iraq, and Iraq's government feared that there could be a revolution among the Iraqi Shi'is in the south. In 1980 Iraq expected that Iran was weak after the Iranian Revolution, so that Iraq would face little resistance when occupying Iranian territory.


seems no fish were involved :)
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: NUKE on June 21, 2004, 02:42:52 PM
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Originally posted by lada
So i hope you agree to know nothing about this problem, since you didnt even know that they were probably armed and they entered Iranian waters.

Iranian guards showed they good habbits, since they didnt blow them.

If you were one of those iranian guards, i guess these brits were probably history now.



and rightly so. If a group of armed Iranians entered US or UK waters, you can almost be sure they are there to blow something up or kill somone...not the case the other way around I'd bet.

I havent seen proof that the Brits even entered Iranian waters.... I wouldn't be suprized if the Iranians didn't pluck them from international waters.

The bad guys are not the Brits.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:44:37 PM
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Originally posted by lada
LOL

hehee... Saddam Hussein claimed a bit diferent things when war started.
Are you sure ?

i just googled this


seems no fish were involved :)


Yeah.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761580640/Iran-Iraq_War.html

"More recently, when Iraq was made a separate state in the aftermath of World War I (1914-1918), Iraq and Iran disagreed sharply over the precise border between them, especially in the area of the Shatt al Arab, a river channel providing Iraq's only outlet to the sea, via the Persian Gulf."
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:51:08 PM
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Originally posted by NUKE

and rightly so. If a group of armed Iranians entered US or UK waters, you can almost be sure they are there to blow something up or kill somone...not the case the other way around I'd bet.




I havent seen proof that the Brits even entered Iranian waters.... I wouldn't be suprized if the Iranians didn't pluck them from international waters.



The bad guys are not the Brits.


SInce you are lazy to read and not worth of informing by UK nor Iranian goverment, you will never find any proof.

btw Bush didnt proof that he is agains Genocide yet.


Nobody said that Brits are bad guys. They probably made mistake.
If you were googling about this matter, you would find, that UK claim that boats were on the way to Iraq, they are supposed to be for Iraqi coast guards.

So there is not problem at all. UK diplomats will solve it easily. Actualy they already meet in Tehran with Iranians.


And those brits are lucky that iranian coast guards are not as fanatics as you were on the top of your post
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:53:58 PM
Now lada don't try to twist my words. I didn't say anyone was going to war just yet. However, if the Iranians follow their past example of illegally kidnapping and holding citizens from foreign countries then yes, they will get spanked and it could set off a chain of events we all may regret.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: babek- on June 21, 2004, 02:55:27 PM
About the border of Iran / Iraq.

When the western nations England and France created this artificial thing called Iraq they defined that the river between Iran and Iraq is 100% iraqui territory.

After WW2 the imperial Iran was an ally of the USA - so the Shah as an US-puppet feeled strong enough to start a campaign to make the middle of the river the new border.

For Iran this river is important because one of the most important oil cities - Abadan - is reached by this river.

The Shah supported the iraqui kurds with heavy weapons and also with retreat zones to regroup on iranian territory.

Iraq was not able to win against these kurds - and so there was an official treaty where Iran and Iraq agreed that the middle of the river was the border between both countries. If I am right it was called treaty of Algier - but I am not sure about this.

The important thing on this treaty was the inofficial part: Iran stopped immedeately any support for the kurds - and as often in their history the kurds were betrayed and lost against the Iraquis.

Later Saddam (at this time a friend of the US :) ) revoked the treaty and started the Iran-Iraq-War.

After the Iran-Iraq-War this question was not solved.
But before the Desert Storm Saddam tried to get iran as an ally and accepted officially the middle of the river as the border between Iran and Iraq. This idiot really believed that Iran would support him and sent during the war 150 of his fighters to Iran (which he never got back).

Back to the today news:
So - some british soldiers have entered iranian territory and were arrested. **** happens - and its good that they were captured unhurt.

And I dont think that they will be taken to a infamous prison where they are tortured or forced to perform homosexual practices while stupidly smiling soldiers take thumbs-up-pictures from their comrades.

This thing will be solved in typical british-iranian diplomacy:
GB will pay some corrupt fat mullahs money and the british soldiers will be released with their equipment within some hours.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 02:58:12 PM
At least you got the part about the quick release right babek. I really wouldn't mind seeing Iran get spanked though.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Habu on June 21, 2004, 02:58:30 PM
Man look at lada do everything he can to start a flame.

Sorry Lada the fuel is wet. No one cares what you think.

No fish are biteing today.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 21, 2004, 02:58:50 PM
Christ...
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 02:59:41 PM
naaah ok Iron, it were kind of odd statement with hot head. (please not that there is not d*ck word in front of head)


If you mean things after revlution, i think that it only proof that sutch things can not be solved by military power.


And one more thing. Iran in 74+ and iran today are 2 very very diferent countries.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 03:04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Habu
Man look at lada do everything he can to start a flame.

Sorry Lada the fuel is wet. No one cares what you think.

No fish are biteing today.


what do you consider flame ? agression of other posters or what ?


If you have something to say regarding our theme, post it
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 03:05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Christ...


i doubt he were not involved
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Habu on June 21, 2004, 03:07:59 PM
strike strike

those matchs just will not light


Keep trying, I am sure someone will bite. Remember if your fire does not start just keep adding fuel.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: NUKE on June 21, 2004, 03:08:12 PM
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Originally posted by lada
i doubt he were not involved


so you are saying Christ was involved?

That takes the cake!
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Eagler on June 21, 2004, 03:28:31 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
non issue.


we can always hope

sounds like a good excuse as any to take out their nuke facility ... for starters
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 21, 2004, 03:33:13 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
At least you got the part about the quick release right babek. I really wouldn't mind seeing Iran get spanked though.


You mean the same way we're spanking Iraq? maybe all those rose petals got shipped to Tehran in anticipation to our visit...

I wouldn't mind seeing some closer ties with iran as well, but given regime change from a logistical standpoint, how do you account for that mssion being carried out in terms of men, financing, and material?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 21, 2004, 03:36:32 PM
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Originally posted by lada
i doubt he were not involved


In America, using the name of the Lord in vain is often used to show disbelief - usually as a result of listening to someone say something stupid - that they think is smart.

For example:

Joe:  "NO WAR FOR OIL, BUSH IS HITLER!"

Bob:  "Christ..."

In this case, the comment is reserved for you.  :)
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 03:38:36 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler

sounds like a good excuse as any to take out their nuke facility ... for starters


well my plain math say.
If our country with 10 mil. people need 2 nuke-powerplant, how can modern nation with heavy industry work w/o any nuke-powerplant ?

If you spend time whitch you give to listen sci-fi about iran to some nice vacation or trip over there, you would may be stop to fear that much.

Actualy why do you fear them so much ? I can not recall any offensive speach by Ir goverment.

edit.: some inspiration
trip (http://arizonapersian.com/irantravel/_disc6/00000137.htm)
trip 2 (http://www.travelandleisure.com/invoke.cfm?objectID=76785115-A61B-11D5-826A0002B3309983)
trip 3 (http://www.theculturedtraveler.com/Archives/JUL2002/Iran.htm)
as well they see diference between goverment and people (http://www.bootsnall.com/travelstories/me/nov01anger1.shtml)
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 03:45:42 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
You mean the same way we're spanking Iraq? maybe all those rose petals got shipped to Tehran in anticipation to our visit...

I wouldn't mind seeing some closer ties with iran as well, but given regime change from a logistical standpoint, how do you account for that mssion being carried out in terms of men, financing, and material?


Not the same at all. While we did "spank" Iraq's military pretty quickly and thoroughly, I suspect you're implying that somehow the attacks our rebuilding efforts have encountered indicate otherwise?

Should Iran hold those guys for too long the Brits (no doubt with US help) may go in and get their guys with no plans to do any rebuilding.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 03:52:52 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
In America, using the name of the Lord in vain is often used to show disbelief - usually as a result of listening to someone say something stupid - that they think is smart.

For example:

Joe:  "NO WAR FOR OIL, BUSH IS HITLER!"

Bob:  "Christ..."

In this case, the comment is reserved for you.  :)


you may be wondering, but we use it as well in same way.

You didnt get my joke.. :p
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 21, 2004, 03:53:30 PM
Dont feel bad, I dont get alot of jokes.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 04:09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444


I wouldn't mind seeing some closer ties with iran as well, but given regime change from a logistical standpoint, how do you account for that mssion being carried out in terms of men, financing, and material?



Regime in Iran has change so much in past 15 years. Current president is quite wise guy who keep religios leader under certain preasure. He achieved a lot of things whitch they didnt like, but they had to allow them. He walk slowly but w/o thousands of wasted lives.

Religios goverment is loosing popularity slowly but surely. It will be gone or tranformated in 10 years. Because of current goverment even islam as religion is not that popular as it were before. But moral attitude of islam is still nature of those people.

I said before, you will meet many people who will speak like this.: " I dont like our goverment, i hope they will be gone soon.  But if US invade iran i will fight agains US. If they will come as tourist i will be happy to invite them to my house"
Sutch point of view will be held by majority in next few years.

Its funny that they still didnt foget how many bad things US did overthere regarding domestical politic in 70's. And they know very well friends of SH from 80's.

Actualy US support most odd goverments in ME.
SH (dictator), SA (kingdom), UAE (kindom)....  




If world will be open to Iran, Iran will be open to world. If world will be agressive to Iran, Iran will stay closed.
Actualy people of Iran are allowed to travell where ever they want. You can not see them much, because they are not welcome since US started to spread so many 'accurate' informations about them.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 04:19:06 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron

Should Iran hold those guys for too long the Brits (no doubt with US help) may go in and get their guys with no plans to do any rebuilding.


They will not attempt sutch things because Iran is not 3rdworld country.

Just check Bush statements toward Iran and Iraq. You will find that most evil thing he recommand regarding Iran are some sanctions. He never mentioned to use military power.
Coz French could be worried about their Peugot factory. :D

Just check discusion about it all around world, you will find that most diplomats say sutch things.

Well Iron why shouldnt they pay for they mistake if they done it.
You are too furious regarding this problem. Leave some time for investiagation, im sure they will not shot them tomorow morning.

Brits are not barbarians, they know how to make international politic. At least they have no problem to travell to Tehran to have a speach about it. US administration is so cool that it speak with Tehran trough Swiss.... Its kinda like a 6 years old children, whitch is too good to speak with the others.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 21, 2004, 04:23:33 PM
Neither you nor I can speak for the Brits lada but I'm sure the normal diplomatic procedures will be exhausted before force is used. Iran is probably just testing the "waters" here. Let's hope they have enough sense not to wade in too deep.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 04:53:14 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Neither you nor I can speak for the Brits lada but I'm sure the normal diplomatic procedures will be exhausted before force is used. Iran is probably just testing the "waters" here. Let's hope they have enough sense not to wade in too deep.


I agree with you except testing. They didnt comment this situation much. But it will be intersting to see how fast will things occure.

I expect 1 or 2 days and then will British troops refuse to leave iran because of their cuisine :D
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:20:38 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
AWAY! Blow them AWAY! (OMG the mental image!)


just several Blow **** things came on my mind .. not sure whitch one you mean :D
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Arlo on June 21, 2004, 05:36:19 PM
Even taking into account that English isn't lada's first language ... he comes off like a total retard to me.

"Wow im sorry to be missinformed by Iranian national news agency"

"You seems to be blinded by hate. Whats wrong with you ?"

"And 70 mil. people in Iran hope that Brits will explain what their armed ships did in their national waters w/o permition."

"btw Bush didnt proof that he is agains Genocide yet. "

Well Bob ... he appears to be bouncing al over the place.

Yes, Chuck ... and quite adamantly.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 05:44:51 PM
Thank you for your suggestion.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Slash27 on June 21, 2004, 05:45:22 PM
btw lets see who make bussines with most evil regimes on the earth... i wonder where did they take that F-14s


Im still working on this one.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Gunslinger on June 21, 2004, 05:56:40 PM
Lada reminds me of DmdNexus.....Alot of posting about absolutly nothing.  Plus we havnt seen him in a while on this board so who knows.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 21, 2004, 06:02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Lada reminds me of DmdNexus.....Alot of posting about absolutly nothing.  Plus we havnt seen him in a while on this board so who knows.


hehe no not realy. Im not DmdNexus.


its interesting that i were able to speak with Iron.
He is proably Half-God that he were able to speak with me.

And he is the one who contributed something interesting into this thread. Im wondering why other wasting time overhere with pointless post w/o meaning.


but if you like it, enjoy it
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Gunslinger on June 21, 2004, 06:12:13 PM
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Originally posted by lada
hehe no not realy. Im not DmdNexus.


its interesting that i were able to communiace with Iron.
He is proably Half-God that he were able to speak with me.



so if he's a "half-god" what does that make you?

I figure I'm gonna stay out of this threads "topic" Posting would be a waist of time since any post I make will be responded to by what sounds like iranian tourism propaganda
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Pongo on June 21, 2004, 06:14:28 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Neither you nor I can speak for the Brits lada but I'm sure the normal diplomatic procedures will be exhausted before force is used. Iran is probably just testing the "waters" here. Let's hope they have enough sense not to wade in too deep.


If the Brits strayed across a line in the gulf and got picked up 24 miles out at sea, I hope that they are quickly turned over to the consulate minius what ever gear they had. I suspect this is what will happen.

If they were captured under more aggressive circumstances, I hope they like being in prison because I doubt the Iranians will feel compelled to release them.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Arlo on June 21, 2004, 06:30:32 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
.... since any post I make will be responded to by what sounds like iranian tourism propaganda


(http://www.netiran.com/logo.gif)

"Giving the world the REAL truth, by Allah!"
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AWMac on June 21, 2004, 07:02:27 PM
Screw it.... the gloves come off... call it what you want. But we, the FREE WORLD, can in a moments notice turn the Middle East into 1 BIG sheet of flat glass... So keep hiding behind yer table cloth rags, we know yer afraid to show yer faces.  Come out and playyyyaaaa..... Warriors.. "clinking lil bottles*.

To talk alotta uneducated, misinformed rehteric Lada... you picked yer name well... except you forgot to add the last part... Lada Chit.

Bet you never served in the Military and you are unwilling to state what Country you live in... He's  Mr. Black...

Ohhh BTW there isn't 72 Virgins waiting for those in Martydum, Hell bet ya couldnt find 72 Virgins in all the Middle East above the age of 18.

So Lada go back to yer lada crap, yer lil dream world and someday you find the end.  *Huh? where's the Light?*

:D

I come in Peace.

:rofl
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Trell on June 21, 2004, 08:20:34 PM
My thoughts on this is that Iran is trying to flex there mussles.

I am guessing that they will be glad to give back the troops and boats,   but then you will hear from them  that they are now a developed nation,  and by giving back the troops and boats they should be alowed to join as a nuclear nation.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Momus-- on June 22, 2004, 02:14:32 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Screw it.... the gloves come off... call it what you want. But we, the FREE WORLD, can in a moments notice turn the Middle East into 1 BIG sheet of flat glass... So keep hiding behind yer table cloth rags, we know yer afraid to show yer faces.  Come out and playyyyaaaa..... Warriors.. "clinking lil bottles*.

To talk alotta uneducated, misinformed rehteric Lada... you picked yer name well... except you forgot to add the last part... Lada Chit.

Bet you never served in the Military and you are unwilling to state what Country you live in... He's  Mr. Black...

Ohhh BTW there isn't 72 Virgins waiting for those in Martydum, Hell bet ya couldnt find 72 Virgins in all the Middle East above the age of 18.

So Lada go back to yer lada crap, yer lil dream world and someday you find the end.  *Huh? where's the Light?*

:D

I come in Peace.

:rofl


You are a shining example of all that is wrong with your dumbed-down lowest-common-denominator country.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Gh0stFT on June 22, 2004, 02:20:04 AM
Didnt the Brits confiscated Iran patrol boats near the english coast 4 years ago? ;)
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 04:39:31 AM
well AWMac you should reread Good slodier Svejk, as Boroda mentioned few weeks ago.


Do you have any special reason why do you show us your lack of knowledge about Iran in sutch way ?

Most people around me is having fun reading your post and they agree that your age could be around 15 yrs.

If you could provide something what made you think sutch things, it could explain your attitude.


Gh0stFT: lol
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKcurly on June 22, 2004, 05:29:48 AM
No radical Arab country is currently able to thumb its nose at the West.  Iran just thumbed their nose at the West.  Think this brings joy to radical Arab hearts?

Whoa, Tom Clancy time.   United Islamic Republic.  

Nah, Iran isn't making weapons grade plutonium, what a foolish thought. :)

culry
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 06:06:52 AM
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Originally posted by AKcurly
No radical Arab country is currently able to thumb its nose at the West.  Iran just thumbed their nose at the West.  Think this brings joy to radical Arab hearts?

Whoa, Tom Clancy time.   United Islamic Republic.  

Nah, Iran isn't making weapons grade plutonium, what a foolish thought. :)

culry



actualy we produce same stuff for our power plants, so i do not have any problems with it.


I didnt get your trough about Arab hearts. What do you mean by
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 Iran just thumbed their nose at the West.  Think this brings joy to radical Arab hearts?

?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Arlo on June 22, 2004, 06:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by lada
actualy we produce same stuff for our power plants, so i do not have any problems with it.


I didnt get your trough about Arab hearts. What do you mean by

?


Weapons grade plutonium for powerplants. You just like to type. I've seen more sense out of a random word generator. :D
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 06:31:56 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Weapons grade plutonium for powerplants. You just like to type. I've seen more sense out of a random word generator. :D


Can you post some links that they prodce it ?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Staga on June 22, 2004, 06:54:11 AM
Iran could keep those boats and troops for years and Britain wouldn't do anything. Reason is that in Iran the modern president is trying to develope the country more western way while religious leaders are waiting their chance to jump in and steer country back to the era of Ajatollah Khomeini.
I don't think anyone wants that.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKcurly on June 22, 2004, 07:10:48 AM
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Originally posted by lada
actualy we produce same stuff for our power plants, so i do not have any problems with it.

I didnt get your trough about Arab hearts. What do you mean by

?


You don't produce weapons grade plutonium for power plants.  It's not clear (at the moment) that Iran is producing plutonium of that quality, but if they did, then it's certainly possible elements of radical Islam would have access to it.

I meant that Radical Arabs are pleased when they see any Western country in a compromised position.

curly
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Arlo on June 22, 2004, 07:14:50 AM
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Originally posted by lada
Can you post some links that they prodce it ?


Will you at least try to stay on track with your ill-formed arguments? Can you? No? :lol
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 08:12:23 AM
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Originally posted by AKcurly
You don't produce weapons grade plutonium for power plants.  It's not clear (at the moment) that Iran is producing plutonium of that quality, but if they did, then it's certainly possible elements of radical Islam would have access to it.

I meant that Radical Arabs are pleased when they see any Western country in a compromised position.

curly


Its clear that Iran have technology whitch could produce it. However, they claim to not produce it, coz they dont need.

Why do you think that Iranian goverment could provide sutch technology to Radical Arabs.

Do you know whats relation ship between Iranian and Arabs ?

Radical Islamis are support over there as much as radical tards hiding behind religion all around world, include UK and your country.

What is source of
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I meant that Radical Arabs are pleased when they see any Western country in a compromised position.

?

its seems to me quite off regarding Iran, non-arabaci nation
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 22, 2004, 09:25:11 AM
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Originally posted by lada
Do you know whats relation ship between Iranian and Arabs ?


That one is pretty easy. They are both muslims and want to drive the infidels from their lands.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 11:27:00 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
That one is pretty easy. They are both muslims and want to drive the infidels from their lands.


cant speak for arabs, but regarding persian its pure BS.

Who told it to you ?


Actualy my host in Kermanshash had Jew neighbour for several years. You can meet some catholic in Iran as well. ( i did)
I were not after religion things, but there are some churches as well.

Im wondering what is source of sutch informations.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Yeager on June 22, 2004, 11:37:34 AM
Iranians are by persians mostly.  Related to arabs?  dont know, but I thought it was an insult to call an Iranian an arab.

Looks like Iran might be looking for trouble with the brit sailors, anyone remember Dieppe.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 11:54:26 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
anyone remember Dieppe.


whats that ?


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The British detainees have accepted their illegal foray into
Iranian waters and have expressed gratitude on their humane treatment
by the Iranian Armed Forces.


So as we can see all those brave words are not quite correct for this case.
http://www.irna.ir/?LANG=EN&PART=_HOME&TYPE=HP&id=200406222004210&start_grd=
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Monk on June 22, 2004, 12:06:23 PM
Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA)..........you got to be kidding me.  Lada you are quoting from them?  :aok
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 12:14:24 PM
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Originally posted by Monk
Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA)..........you got to be kidding me.  Lada you are quoting from them?  :aok


Yes. If you have better source of information inside Iran, post it please, and explain whats wrong with Irna.com please.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Monk on June 22, 2004, 12:18:25 PM
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Originally posted by lada
Yes. If you have better source of information inside Iran, post it please, and explain whats wroing with Irna.com please.
So, if that is the only info coming from Iran (The Gov. official news agency), it's true.  Na...there is nothing wrong with IRNA.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 22, 2004, 12:19:20 PM
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Originally posted by lada
whats that ?




So as we can see all those brave words are not quite correct for this case.
http://www.irna.ir/?LANG=EN&PART=_HOME&TYPE=HP&id=200406222004210&start_grd=


What brave words are not correct lada?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 12:21:34 PM
here are some more, but i didnt find any better that irna
http://www.irna.ir/?SAB=OK&LANG=EN&PART=_PRESS&TYPE=_PRESS_LOCAL

http://www.irna.ir/?SAB=OK&LANG=EN&PART=_PRESS&TYPE=_PRESS_OTHER
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Monk on June 22, 2004, 12:23:35 PM
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Originally posted by lada
here are some more, but i didnt find any better that irna
http://www.irna.ir/?SAB=OK&LANG=EN&PART=_PRESS&TYPE=_PRESS_LOCAL

http://www.irna.ir/?SAB=OK&LANG=EN&PART=_PRESS&TYPE=_PRESS_OTHER
Notice who publishes them.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 12:26:16 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
What brave words are not correct lada?


Invasion, attack, WW3 and stuff like that.

Brits simply made mistake, they admited it and they are not loking for troubles.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 12:26:53 PM
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Originally posted by Monk
Notice who publishes them.


wow you posted replay faster that first 3 of them opened at my browser.... save me some time and tell me please
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 22, 2004, 12:36:51 PM
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Originally posted by lada
Invasion, attack, WW3 and stuff like that.

Brits simply made mistake, they admited it and they are not loking for troubles.


Brits have not admitted anything of the sort. First off, your source is at best, unreliable. Secondly, even if the guys did "accept" Iran's claim that they violated Iran's border they could have been coerced.


Probably what they admitted to is simply acknowledging where they were, not that it was in fact Iranian territory and that they knew they were violating Iran's border. Like I said, unless they were coerced. It will interesting to watch this play out.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 01:47:15 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
First off, your source is at best, unreliable.  


Why do you think? Can you proof that they posted some unreliable information in past ?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 22, 2004, 02:16:14 PM
Sure, Iranian news sources/government claimed it was rebel students holding Americans hostage for over a year and that the government of Iran could do nothing about it. At least this time they won't have that lie to hide behind. If they know what's good for 'em they will turn those guys loose real quick, in the name of bettering international relations of course.

No point in debating this further. Let's just watch and see, shall we?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Eagler on June 22, 2004, 03:33:04 PM
to to pull an Israel on them ... 1981 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm)
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 03:39:37 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
to to pull an Israel on them ... 1981 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm)


hehe check Russian-Iranian nuclear contract.
You will find why its not possible in that way.


And i better dont ask about your rational reason to deny them nuclear power plants.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Slash27 on June 22, 2004, 05:34:38 PM
And i better dont ask about your rational reason to deny them nuclear power plants.


  A rational reason to deny Iran nuclear power? Because they cant be trusted with a windmill let alone a reactor.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 22, 2004, 05:49:14 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
And i better dont ask about your rational reason to deny them nuclear power plants.


  A rational reason to deny Iran nuclear power? Because they cant be trusted with a windmill let alone a reactor.


Sure .. thats usual answer... But how did you reach this point ?
Where are you getting sutch informations?

Somehow it seems that you belive to be No.1 on some imaginar "To remove list"

heeee ?


Iron if you can post some News from IRNA about problems at US embassy in 70's, it would be nice. Then we will see how they present news. If Goverment or Politics claim something, they usualy just post what they said.
I check it sometime since 2002, but i didnt find any trolls there.
And often i can find a lot of interesting information from all around world over there, whitch are not covered in our media. Specialy from Asia.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AWMac on June 22, 2004, 06:01:45 PM
Heh loved it when the Isrealies took out the Iraq Nuclear Reactors supplied by the French....  Wait there is NO proof of a French-Iraqi connection... that is simply foolish...

*posting smiley flippin the bird*
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Monk on June 23, 2004, 11:01:41 AM
Lada here you are,  Points 1 and 2 are good.  This is from the IRNA site mind you.
http://www.irna.ir/en/about/guide.shtml
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 23, 2004, 11:10:19 AM
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yes they have.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3831715.stm


Did you ignore the coerced part? I'll reseve judgement until they are home and can speak freely.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 23, 2004, 11:14:51 AM
"The UK Ministry of Defence said the men were training the Iraqi river patrol service, and may have mistakenly strayed over the maritime border."

Won't deny it's possible, however, will wait to see. At least the Iranians had enough sense to release them quickly it would appear.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: Dowding on June 23, 2004, 11:16:19 AM
So there's no war between Iran and Britain? No WWIII? Where have all the drama queens gone?
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: AKIron on June 23, 2004, 11:18:16 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
So there's no war between Iran and Britain? No WWIII? Where have all the drama queens gone?


Let them keep them and we shall see. However, I always agreed that they would be released quite quickly.
Title: Iran confiscates patrol boats
Post by: lada on June 23, 2004, 01:14:24 PM
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Originally posted by Monk
Lada here you are,  Points 1 and 2 are good.  This is from the IRNA site mind you.
http://www.irna.ir/en/about/guide.shtml


thanks for link
It is National agency, so i dont get whats wrong there.
ad point 1. sure they will post news regarding Iran
ad point 2. US promote 'democracy', they promote their culture. Is it some problem ?

However i agree that formulation of point 2 is kinda funny.


edit ... btw check latest news about Brits at their web