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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: kj714 on June 21, 2004, 02:40:56 PM
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Well, heck, shoot me for being a crab now and then.
Getsome was complaining he couldn't see GV's, so I gave him a quick rundown on the sliders on range channel. Whole thing took maybe 5 exchanges and less than 30 seconds. Then Cobraeye gets on and tells us in sort of a snotty way to knock it off on range, cause him and his squad cant communicate over our little convo. Him and the one other Gravedigger that was on.
Quote, with thinly veiled putoutedness, "Please keep the range channel chatter to a minimum now, because I can't talk to my squad, you keep interrupting us."
So I kind of chewed him out back, being tired of the little general syndrome so prevalent these days.
Can range be squelched somehow?
Anyway, I took considerable offense to that guy having an annoynism, sorry.
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That's why there's a squad channel. You should have started talking about the weather, rather than get offended.
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Range channel shouldn't be used as a gen. chat channel.
You could have just asked the guy to tune to channel xxx and then you could have taken time to answer his questions there.
There's a lot of pointless chatter over range and for those of us who fly with our squads some it inteferes with our communications.
I started another thread asking that squad/tuned channels be biased over range.
But if you must have a conversion then just tuning to a private channel is not to much to ask.
So yeah, you were out of line. It has nothing to do with "generals" or squelching range. Consider the fact that others around you cant communicate if theres a lot of chatter on range. Just tune to private channel.
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Originally posted by Wotan
Range channel shouldn't be used as a gen. chat channel.
You could have just asked the guy to tune to channel xxx and then you could have taken time to answer his questions there.
There's a lot of pointless chatter over range and for those of us who fly with our squads some it inteferes with our communications.
I started another thread asking that squad/tuned channels be biased over range.
But if you must have a conversion then just tuning to a private channel is not to much to ask.
So yeah, you were out of line. It has nothing to do with "generals" or squelching range. Consider the fact that others around you cant communicate if theres a lot of chatter on range. Just tune to private channel.
So in the middle of furball island, I'm supposed to auger and then help out Getsome so he could get a vis on the GV that was pounding him because of his video settings. I don't think that's "pointless chatter" or "general chat" nor is it a "conversation". Especially since many people are in a learning mode right now.
Let me rephrase my earlier statement a little, over thirty seconds time, we had 5 personal exchanges, the first one being a general request for assistance, probably totalling less than 10 seconds talk time.
Getsome: I can't see this tank firing at me!
KJ714: What are your video slider settings? I had that problem.
Getsome: Mine are all to the right.
KJ714: Move 'em to the left, you'll see the GV.
Getsome: Thanks
Getsome: It worked!
Get real, man. I fly with my squad 90% of the time and we get the same interference, can't recall anybody getting too upset.
I thought we were supposed to help each other out in the game? Oh, that's a different situation, I guess.
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Originally posted by SOB
That's why there's a squad channel. You should have started talking about the weather, rather than get offended.
huh?
edited - Oh, haha, yeah I should have!
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You did the right thing in helping. That squad should know they have their own private vox.
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Ah, screw it. I think I'm still p.o.'d at myself for being a dik to the guy.
Sorry Cobraeye.
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Is there a range squelch?
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quote:
You did the right thing in helping. That squad should know they have their own private vox.
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Currently, local range channel overrides (steps on) tuned VOX channel. .
Sun
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Originally posted by kj714
So in the middle of furball island, I'm supposed to auger and then help out Getsome so he could get a vis on the GV that was pounding him because of his video settings. I don't think that's "pointless chatter" or "general chat" nor is it a "conversation". Especially since many people are in a learning mode right now.
Let me rephrase my earlier statement a little, over thirty seconds time, we had 5 personal exchanges, the first one being a general request for assistance, probably totalling less than 10 seconds talk time.
Getsome: I can't see this tank firing at me!
KJ714: What are your video slider settings? I had that problem.
Getsome: Mine are all to the right.
KJ714: Move 'em to the left, you'll see the GV.
Getsome: Thanks
Getsome: It worked!
Get real, man. I fly with my squad 90% of the time and we get the same interference, can't recall anybody getting too upset.
I thought we were supposed to help each other out in the game? Oh, that's a different situation, I guess.
So you didnt really want an answer to your question. You just wanted some one to pat you on the head and say "You go girl"...
To change vox channel you just type .radio 5 XXX or just type it in.
How hard is that?
I don't care how upset you are. Range channel has to much pointless chatter. You asked for an opinion and you got one.
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Is there a range squelch?
No, the only way to do it is to squelch every one individually that shows up in the vox box on range. But as more folks come into range they are not squelched.
HT has said before that he doesnt want to range to be squelched.
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Originally posted by Wotan
So you didnt really want an answer to your question. You just wanted some one to pat you on the head and say "You go girl"...
To change vox channel you just type .radio 5 XXX or just type it in.
How hard is that?
I don't care how upset you are. Range channel has to much pointless chatter. You asked for an opinion and you got one.
Pretty hard when you're zooming up out of the furball trying to stay alive and get back in. Much easier just to throw it over range quick like. Even though it wasn't the best timed moment, I fight with Getsome quite a bit, didn't want to leave him stranded like that. Nobody else was offering anything to the poor guy.
I not looking for anyone to do anything, jack. Don't patronize me.
Just wanted to get a feel for the water how other people felt about the subject. I'm sorry I griped (on text channel) at the noob, if it was a more seasoned player I probably wouldn't be, just because he's new, at least I think so, because of his ranking time in the game. Who knows, maybe it's some crusty sourlip who just changed his handle around.
Your opinion is noted, so far it's at least 3 to 1 against you. You seem to be the only one who missed the fact it wasn't "general chat", it was game oriented and PDQ. Tell me, what is acceptable range material to you?
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Originally posted by Sundowner
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You did the right thing in helping. That squad should know they have their own private vox.
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Currently, local range channel overrides (steps on) tuned VOX channel. .
Sun
This is true.
I think maybe we should make a request to have this reversed.
All in all he did the right thing. It was quick, to the point And had something to do with the battle at hand.
Typing might have been better but there isnt always time for that.
The real problem comes when your in a heavy combat area and when two people who seemingly havent seen each other since kindergarden decide to catch up on the last 20 years and hog the range channel altogether with extended conversation none of which has anything to do withthe local combat situation. thus blocking anyone else from getting a word in edgewise with what might be important information. Like the 3 goons trying to sneak in from the north.
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Originally posted by kj714
Well, heck, shoot me for being a crab now and then.
Getsome was complaining he couldn't see GV's, so I gave him a quick rundown on the sliders on range channel. Whole thing took maybe 5 exchanges and less than 30 seconds. Then Cobraeye gets on and tells us in sort of a snotty way to knock it off on range, cause him and his squad cant communicate over our little convo. Him and the one other Gravedigger that was on.
Quote, with thinly veiled putoutedness, "Please keep the range channel chatter to a minimum now, because I can't talk to my squad, you keep interrupting us."
So I kind of chewed him out back, being tired of the little general syndrome so prevalent these days.
Can range be squelched somehow?
Anyway, I took considerable offense to that guy having an annoynism, sorry.
It's time like these that I call Silat over to where I'm flying and tell him to sing on range vox.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by kj714
Pretty hard when you're zooming up out of the furball trying to stay alive and get back in. Much easier just to throw it over range quick like. Even though it wasn't the best timed moment, I fight with Getsome quite a bit, didn't want to leave him stranded like that. Nobody else was offering anything to the poor guy.
I not looking for anyone to do anything, jack. Don't patronize me.
Just wanted to get a feel for the water how other people felt about the subject. I'm sorry I griped (on text channel) at the noob, if it was a more seasoned player I probably wouldn't be, just because he's new, at least I think so, because of his ranking time in the game. Who knows, maybe it's some crusty sourlip who just changed his handle around.
Your opinion is noted, so far it's at least 3 to 1 against you. You seem to be the only one who missed the fact it wasn't "general chat", it was game oriented and PDQ. Tell me, what is acceptable range material to you?
With every post you give more details, none which have anything to do with the original question:
"Was I wrong...to get uppity at the guy for asking me to not use range as a conversation channel...?"
My reply is, "Yes you were wrong".
Beyond that I don’t care much about what you were talking about. My point in general is that range channel chatter (of which your 30 sec or whatever contributes) is out of hand.
That guy is probably frustrated by the constant hen clucking that goes on. It does affect folks who are trying to communicate with their friends and squad mates and who care nothing about whatever it is you were going on about.
You can be upset all you want but I would have asked you to shut up as well.
But you go girl...
There, you feel better?
Patronize you? You ran to the bbs "mommy" for validation. You get whats called for...
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Wow, nobody gets to be a little general without seeming LIKE A COMPLETE ARSE in AH. That includes wotans last post. Sure it sucks when you dont get the check six cause somebody is chatting with the guy next to you, but hell, I bet good money wotan has a cell phone.
You shoulda started taking about the weather. Anybody that would ***** about something they have no possible control over needs to get the weather told to them.
"HEY YOU, GET THOSE PLANES OUT OF MY WAY, YOUR BLOCKING MY VIEW OF THE ENEMY" "YEAH, STOP TALKING WHILE YOUR AT IT"
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Originally posted by Wotan
With every post you give more details, none which have anything to do with the original question:
"Was I wrong...to get uppity at the guy for asking me to not use range as a conversation channel...?"
My reply is, "Yes you were wrong".
Beyond that I don’t care much about what you were talking about. My point in general is that range channel chatter (of which your 30 sec or whatever contributes) is out of hand.
That guy is probably frustrated by the constant hen clucking that goes on. It does affect folks who are trying to communicate with their friends and squad mates and who care nothing about whatever it is you were going on about.
You can be upset all you want but I would have asked you to shut up as well.
But you go girl...
There, you feel better?
Patronize you? You ran to the bbs "mommy" for validation. You get whats called for...
actually. I think a "can you guys take to private please?' would have work also;)
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We must get rid of range channel ASAP. I say we replace it with something like Ch245 or maybe like Ch246?
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hehehe.
245. how bout channel 564?
Problem is you want joe newbie to be on range as soon as he gets into the game. Just a vox mute would be fine.
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I know I'm vastly outnumbered here but I say kill "VOX" all the way and let us run some outside "communication" software like the bad old days. Things like BattleCom, Team Sound/Speak/whatever, Roger Blowco/Gator. At any rate then we all had control over what was said over the channels and we could invite whomever we wanted to our private conversations.
OR since that isn't likely to happen I go with Wotan on the bandwagon of having Squadron channels override Range and any other predetermined in game channel. To me it just makes more sense when 90%+ of your ingame chatter is between squad mates and is more than likely only relevant to them in their missions and flights. That way I don't have to listen to the big fish story being told over range channel along with the broken story of how some high school kid kissed this girl and played with her boob.
SO here goes the campaign now...
Permanent Squelch List and Squadron "radio" channel priorities in 2004! OK so we need to shorten it a bit any ideas.
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SYSTEM: Range channel is now 469
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Well, no one "owns" range channel. Last I heard, it was there so everyone in range could communicate. Further, 5 short messages isn't really enough to warrant a complaint. Especially if those messages help a friendly survive or get a kill. That is after all, the object of the exercise. Funny how some people feel they are so important that range channel should be used as it suits them, regardless of anyone else. Sort of tells you what kind of person they are.
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You did the right thing.
I squelch people on range all the time. The guy *****ing at you could have done that way quicker then rag on you.
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Well... I was there when this happened KJ714, and I can understand the frustration with the chatting... though I didn't say anything. Yep, he could have squelched, end of story, and if you were not there... it would sound like whomever asked that was out of line, but in my opinion, there was certainly an understandable reason why this request was made. The 'I can't hear my squad channel' might have been a nicer way to express what was really annoying him. It certainly is nicer than what I was thinking.
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Originally posted by Paxil
Well... I was there when this happened KJ714, and I can understand the frustration with the chatting... though I didn't say anything. Yep, he could have squelched, end of story, and if you were not there... it would sound like whomever asked that was out of line, but in my opinion, there was certainly an understandable reason why this request was made. The 'I can't hear my squad channel' might have been a nicer way to express what was really annoying him. It certainly is nicer than what I was thinking.
See there are always 2 sides...
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What is range channel good for if not talking about NASCAR, guns, and the jug of moonshine that Billy Ray made this week?
I want to know these things!
And damn each and every one of you who steps on dear old Billy Ray's toes for it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Well, after reading all that was posted, and not knowing the entire store, I would say you were both wrong.
First off, Range Channel IMO is for communicating game related information with other players, players that are not on your squad. Which by the way, you stated it was. The other person might have been correct in asking you to move to another channel, however it sounds like his diplomacy was lacking in more than one respect. This is all the more reason to politely tell them that the exchange was finished and thank them for stepping forward to help this person himself.
So, for you:
This is a game. There is no reason to be rude.
For them:
This is a game. There is no reason to be rude.
Yes, it is irritating at times, but if it starts to bother you, just ask the offending party to take it to a private channel. Period. If it is possible to change to another channel, do it in courtesy to your fellow players.
My 2 cents.
LTARsqrl
:aok
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Squad's sometimes have muti-faceted misssion's going on and range channel is needed in addition to squad. Nothing worse than two squaddies screaming check 6 over squad channel when I'm climbing my bomber's out and getting a jack and coke. Range channel fine for talk if no threats are around but please STFU when guys are coordinating wingman manuevers and tryin to tell ya bout the goon 2k beneath your plane while your talking about your pathetic weekend.
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Jaxxo you can set a tuned for joint squad opps, folks can set a channel for defending a base etc... Or set a channel just to chat.
Mission have a "mission channel"
You dont have to use range. The problem is range is used for everything from a meet and great channel to a "home improvement" channel.
Communication between squads can be on a tuned channel etc.