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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K0N on June 22, 2004, 07:24:02 AM
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"What if" they execute a women?
What if terrorists behead a women on video, how will the world react?
Is it just a matter of time until this act happens?
This is a scenario that really could get ugly!
IKON
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It's already ugly. They've shown no compulsion to avoid nor remorse for killing all sorts of innocents, women and children in the pot, to date. I already consider them capable and willing to do so in the manner they've decided gets them "results" lately. Mad dogs are shot on sight for the good of the community in general.
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Then they'd be terrorists AND bad spellers!
Daniel
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LOL :)
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Dere God to spell bad...oh the fediddleing horror...THE HORROR of bad spelling.
M'rons
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Well, look who's mr grumpy bottoms today, go have an OJ and a waffle and put a smile back on that long face!
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aren't women equal?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
aren't women equal?
lazs
im saving this page to prove you really said that once
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Originally posted by lazs2
aren't women equal?
lazs
LOL
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I didn't say they were... I asked the question.
lazs
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isn't it against their religion to just look upon a women minus her rags let alone cut her head off?
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They execute women in the middle east quite frequently, sometimes for being a bad cook. Guess maybe they ain't all bad. ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
aren't women equal?
lazs
If it happens we will see I guess!
IKON
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I believe they prefer stoning in these compassionate countries.
lazs
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Originally posted by AKIron
They execute women in the middle east quite frequently, sometimes for being a bad cook. Guess maybe they ain't all bad. ;)
Hmmm you have me reconsidering my values.
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Originally posted by lazs2
aren't women equal?
lazs
No, but woman is....are...
:confused:
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Wasn't there an article written by a Saudi cleric recently that outlinied the proper ways to beat a wife?
IKON
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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — An Indonesian maid who killed her employer's wife by beating her on the head with an iron pipe was beheaded Monday, the Interior Ministry said.
It said Warni Samiran Awdi was convicted of killing Fatima Ibrahim al-Firaydan after an argument.
She was executed in the eastern Saudi city of al-Ahsa.
The execution brings to at least 60 the number of people beheaded in Saudi Arabia this year. At least 99 were executed last year.
About two-thirds of those executed are foreigners. Saudi Arabia is an oil-rich nation of 18 million, about 6 million of whom are foreigners, mostly laborers from the Indian subcontinent.
Punishment in Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islamic law that mandates death sentences for murder, rape, drug trafficking and armed robbery. Executions are carried out with a sword in a public square.
Human rights organizations have condemned the executions.
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from 2000. Just thought it would be good to know that the goverment of Saudi Arabia is big on beheading and always has been.
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Originally posted by Pongo
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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — An Indonesian maid who killed her employer's wife by beating her on the head with an iron pipe was beheaded Monday, the Interior Ministry said.
It said Warni Samiran Awdi was convicted of killing Fatima Ibrahim al-Firaydan after an argument.
She was executed in the eastern Saudi city of al-Ahsa.
The execution brings to at least 60 the number of people beheaded in Saudi Arabia this year. At least 99 were executed last year.
About two-thirds of those executed are foreigners. Saudi Arabia is an oil-rich nation of 18 million, about 6 million of whom are foreigners, mostly laborers from the Indian subcontinent.
Punishment in Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islamic law that mandates death sentences for murder, rape, drug trafficking and armed robbery. Executions are carried out with a sword in a public square.
Human rights organizations have condemned the executions.
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from 2000. Just thought it would be good to know that the goverment of Saudi Arabia is big on beheading and always has been.
Public beheadings never work because eventually society tends to pack a lunch and bring the kids after say 100 or so beheadings.. I got this from the history channel so you know it has to be true LOL....
IKON
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Glad im not these guys for lots of reasons.
"A court in Qunfuda sentenced nine Saudi alleged transvestites in April 2000: five drew prison terms of six years and 2,600 lashes, and the other four were sentenced to five years and 2,400 lashes. The floggings reportedly were to be carried out in fifty sessions, with a fifteen-day hiatus between each punishment"
They have executed people for "sorcery" in the last 5 years..lol
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Personally I don't see the difference..
but I know that alot of people think there is one..so it'll be interesting to see how freaked out the media types get.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I didn't say they were... I asked the question.
lazs
i were laughing at fact that woman in western word should be equal, so we shouldnt react more nor less ... if they are realy equal :)
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Originally posted by Pongo
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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — An Indonesian maid who killed her employer's wife by beating her on the head with an iron pipe was beheaded Monday, the Interior Ministry said.
It said Warni Samiran Awdi was convicted of killing Fatima Ibrahim al-Firaydan after an argument.
She was executed in the eastern Saudi city of al-Ahsa.
The execution brings to at least 60 the number of people beheaded in Saudi Arabia this year. At least 99 were executed last year.
About two-thirds of those executed are foreigners. Saudi Arabia is an oil-rich nation of 18 million, about 6 million of whom are foreigners, mostly laborers from the Indian subcontinent.
Punishment in Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islamic law that mandates death sentences for murder, rape, drug trafficking and armed robbery. Executions are carried out with a sword in a public square.
Human rights organizations have condemned the executions.
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from 2000. Just thought it would be good to know that the goverment of Saudi Arabia is big on beheading and always has been.
It doesnt seems that USA had good influence on SA in past 30 years.
At least we know where Iraq could be in next 30 years.
Viva Democracy
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Originally posted by Pongo
They have executed people for "sorcery" in the last 5 years..lol
I guess the Harry Potter movies don't do well there?
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Wasn't there an article written by a Saudi cleric recently that outlinied the proper ways to beat a wife?
IKON
yup it happen in France.
They kicked him back to Algeria.
Actualy the one who need to beat his wife will find some justification everytime.
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Originally posted by lada
yup it happen in France.
They kicked him back to Algeria.
Actualy the one who need to beat his wife will find some justification everytime.
Unfortunantly I suspect that every country in the world has a few of these guys...
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Originally posted by 1K0N
Unfortunantly I suspect that every country in the world has a few of these guys...
Positively true, but how many of them are within their legal rights to do so is another matter.
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lada? are u saying that the U.S. influence is what is making the saudis stick to strick isalmic law and execute people by public beheadings and floggings?
are you saying that left to themselves they are kind and gentle folk with human rights a high priority and not the murdering amoral barbarians that they appear to be?
lazs
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A few years back, I remember a story that went around in my old town (In Tinley Park, IL) about an Islamic man that beat his daughter to death for not having her head cover on. He was 'confused' as to why he got sent to jail.
As I alway say, welcome to my country, speak my language and obey the laws.
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Originally posted by RTSigma
A few years back, I remember a story that went around in my old town (In Tinley Park, IL) about an Islamic man that beat his daughter to death for not having her head cover on. He was 'confused' as to why he got sent to jail.
As I alway say, welcome to my country, speak my language and obey the laws.
Not only islamist are doing that.. some africans (non-islamists) are as well.
Sometimes you wounder why they come to europe and say they came to seek for a safe place to live in.
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Originally posted by lazs2
lada? are u saying that the U.S. influence is what is making the saudis stick to strick isalmic law and execute people by public beheadings and floggings?
are you saying that left to themselves they are kind and gentle folk with human rights a high priority and not the murdering amoral barbarians that they appear to be?
lazs
No.
I say that US do support non democratic goverment, whitch do not lead their countries to prosperity. Check progress of SA economy since they become friends of US. Who benefit from it in SA, US and how doest it touch average people.
USA supported 2 kingdoms and 1 dictator in ME in past 25 years.
When your president speak about Freedom and democracy im sorry but i have to laugh.
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Back to the first question.
The news media here will go NUTS, we will here about it for months.
Will it make a difference to me? Maybe a little, but it shouldn't.
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They have no problem executing women for their own 'crimes' why not do it for political benifit?
I dont think they'd have a problem with it - maybe they'd gangrape her first - but Im sure the only difference would be the neck girth the knife would be required to go through.
These arent exactly "reasonable" people.
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Notice how sometimes Lada spells correctly then purposely mispells words? Mr. Black at his game again... this must be an expieriment... same attitude, same approach at threads, same style of crap.
Don't let Lada fool you. He hasn't fooled me.
Notice that Mr. Black and that other fool with expeiriments are not commenting on the BBS?
Lada get a REAL life Punk.
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OWN3D !!!
:rofl
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IN
Before the Lock....
:p
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Lada has earned a ignore. I am suprised you guys bother with him.
He is clearly a bad troll.
Soneone said he was eagleCZ, and since I had ignored him in the past it sounds right.
calling him Mrb is insulting to MrB lol as sad as that is.
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When your president speak about Freedom and democracy im sorry but i have to laugh.
Lada, Just for Chits and Grins... What Country are you from?
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Originally posted by AWMac
Lada, Just for Chits and Grins... What Country are you from?
Hes from MEEPOS! Just like Balki!
(http://www.kybi.com/80s%20balki.jpg)
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
They have no problem executing women for their own 'crimes' why not do it for political benifit?
I dont think they'd have a problem with it - maybe they'd gangrape her first - but Im sure the only difference would be the neck girth the knife would be required to go through.
These arent exactly "reasonable" people.
The Saudis and Muslim fundimentalists in general execute woman for non crimes.
Usually they stone them to death though.
Men must be tougher then woman. I know I would rather have my head cut off.
Remember last year in Pakistan. They men of one clan sentenced a girl from a lower clan to be gang raped(by you know who) cause her brother had walked down the road with a girl from a higher clan?
Then there was that one that was going to be stoned to death cause she got pregenent out of wedlock..
lol
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IIP
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What I don't understand is why are you so interested if someone slaughters a man or a woman; I thought It happens all the time in US prisons thought not with the sword but by electricity or poison ?
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Originally posted by lazs2
lada? are u saying that the U.S. influence is what is making the saudis stick to strick isalmic law and execute people by public beheadings and floggings?
lazs
The House of Saud remains in power through a combination of US military support and the support of the Wahabbi mullahs whom it bribes with oil money to support the regime. The net result of this is that the Saudi middle classes, who would be the natural force for democratisation and liberalisation, are marginalised politically and fundamentalism reigns. This is the price of the US maintaining Saudi Arabia as a strategic regional ally.
So the answer to your question is a qualified yes.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Lada, Just for Chits and Grins... What Country are you from?
Use search and you will find answer
Im wondering who were Mr. Black.
If you somehow belive that im mr. black, you must have fata morgana.
Anyway.. whats up ? You do not have any explanation, why does US support Kingdoms instead of Democracy ?
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Originally posted by Staga
What I don't understand is why are you so interested if someone slaughters a man or a woman; I thought It happens all the time in US prisons thought not with the sword but by electricity or poison ?
Nice sarcasim Staga.... We dont grab woman off the street at random and remove thier heads with a kitchen utensil/steak knife...
Some states allow or provide execution of bad guys but not all, and only after a very lengthy review and or appeals process does the process actually get carried out.... I can only remember 2 women actually getting the death penalty in the US... But I am sure there are a few more, and very uncommon...
IKON
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Originally posted by lada
Use search and you will find answer
Im wondering who were Mr. Black.
If you somehow belive that im mr. black, you must have fata morgana.
Anyway.. whats up ? You do not have any explanation, why does US support Kingdoms instead of Democracy ?
Why are you afraid to answer his question here and now? :D
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lada.. please give us examples of how your country has furthered democracy and freedom in the world and how it is better than the U.S. in that regard?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
lada.. please give us examples of how your country has furthered democracy and freedom in the world and how it is better than the U.S. in that regard?
lazs
Someone who doesn't support a woman's right to vote has no business questioning someone elses support of democracy and freedom.
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so you think that lada has a much more enlightened view on womens rights?
thrawn.. you exclude men (and women)from voting all the time... you are for a womans right to abortion with no input from the man... unions exclude non members from voting. Socialism taxes people who do not wish to participate.
I see no reason why a woman should have a say in what happens to sex offenders say.
but... how is your country better thrawn? What were you doing about the sadman?
lada is, like you, totaly against America but like you, has no solutions. Unlike you, his country probly has an even worse record and the solutions it has come up with are allways barbaric.
lazs
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Someone who gets his paycheck thanks to the taxpayers has no business questions someone elses support of socialism.
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In the end... It really depends on how hot she is. If the news can dig up a really good looking picture of her in her prime, we'll never forget it. If she's just a faceless name, it'll be gone in a week or two.
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oh? I bid on my job like any other contractor. Are you saying that anyone who wins a contract for taxpayer work is a socialist?
you are running out of ammo there canada boy...
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
so you think that lada has a much more enlightened view on womens rights?
thrawn.. you exclude men (and women)from voting all the time... you are for a womans right to abortion with no input from the man... unions exclude non members from voting. Socialism taxes people who do not wish to participate.
I see no reason why a woman should have a say in what happens to sex offenders say.
lazs
clink clinker clink clink.
see the kinds of logic gymnastics a brainwashed person has to go through for the world to make sense to them?
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Originally posted by lazs2
you are running out of ammo there canada boy...
lazs
That's because unlike some I don't rely on corporate welfare to pay for it...commie.
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http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040701-073711-3913r.htm
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Originally posted by lazs2
lada? are u saying that the U.S. influence is what is making the saudis stick to strick isalmic law and execute people by public beheadings and floggings?
are you saying that left to themselves they are kind and gentle folk with human rights a high priority and not the murdering amoral barbarians that they appear to be?
lazs
Why use the word "left", the socialist implications of the sight of it now brings cold spells. :)
Karaya
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Originally posted by 1K0N
"What if" they execute a women?
What if terrorists behead a women on video, how will the world react?
Is it just a matter of time until this act happens?
This is a scenario that really could get ugly!
IKON
well heck! We all know that women like to be treated like crap!
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Evidence is pretty clear that if they do, she'll be just as dead as a man executed in a similar fashion.
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thrawn.. define corprate welfare.
lazs
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If she strips naked they won't be able to look at her and she'll be safe. :cool:
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Originally posted by lazs2
thrawn.. define corprate welfare.
lazs
No, you aren't going to fool me with your liberal high falutin' college tricks.
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Lazs knows college tricks?
Well I be damned....
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not really nash.. I have about a year of community and maybe 40 units over the years that I needed for jobs. That is probly why I have such a hard time debating you smart college kids. (well... canadians are easy but...)
lazs