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Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Ltairforce on June 22, 2004, 05:33:30 PM
The last few days Bish have been out numbered 2 to 1 against Knights and Rooks and 3 to 1 overall. Unfortunately it has hurt us in the last two maps, big time. Myself and FATE love a challenge as do the rest of the Bish, but the few Bish that are on just cant overcomer the numbers. Seems like during the recent AH transition Bish suffered the most in terms of players. Any thoughts?




Spaatz
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: AKFokerFoder+ on June 22, 2004, 06:28:23 PM
I log off when the Bish are vastly outnumbered and being pounced on by hordes of Rooks and Knights.  You are outnumbered, they have bombed out your radar, and you get tired of the unbalanced game play

I imagine there are a few others that do the same or switch sides.

I have no answers other than to make perkie rides dirt cheap. Say 10 pts for a 262, and 3 pts for a Tempest or F4U-4 when your side has less than half of the largest side.  I am serious, we need to stop the one sided play.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: SLO on June 22, 2004, 07:25:55 PM
its our turn too take it in the butt.....

each team has gone thru that same thing
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Post by: mechanic on June 22, 2004, 07:41:55 PM
lmao

you should have tried being a knight in AH1

always on the recieving end of a beating

only way i know how to play is being outnumbered :)

(apart from when i flew rooks for a few months, then i was the only pilot under 20k :D  )
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Overlag on June 22, 2004, 09:34:04 PM
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Originally posted by SLO
its our turn too take it in the butt.....

each team has gone thru that same thing


its been "our turn" for the past 6-8months
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Post by: Broes on June 22, 2004, 09:49:39 PM
When I joined AH (version 1.05) rooks were in the bucket... and it lasted up till somewhere 1.08 or 1.09 and then the knights took over being the outnumbered species.

During all these times it was not uncommon at times for bish to outnumbered the knights AND rooks combined....

Each and every time a rook or a knight complained about this unfairness bish people told them to shut up and take it in the 4ss because every now and then it happens to all the teams....

:p Watch me gloat :D

Broesy
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Post by: Hyrax81st on June 22, 2004, 10:40:08 PM
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Originally posted by mechanic

only way i know how to play is being outnumbered :)



I remember reading a quote somewhere from a German pilot who survived the war asking why there were so many German Aces. He said (and I paraphrase heavily), "well... we were vastly outnumbered. Any time we took off from a field we didn't have to fly very far to encounter the enemy. We had many more opportunities to fight than the allies did".

Translation... outnumbered means you are benefiting from a "target rich environment". Hang in there, I am sure it will balance out eventually.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Morpheus on June 23, 2004, 12:25:26 AM
went in to say hi to my squadies...

100 Rooks

100 Nights

60 Bishops

I might be making a switch to the bish for a while to help in my own little way.

Thats if I decide to even play again. lol
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Hyrax81st on June 23, 2004, 12:40:37 AM
Morpheus,

Your Avatar still needs "support"...

Ouch !
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Post by: MadSquirrel on June 23, 2004, 02:03:57 AM
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Hyrax81st:
I remember reading a quote somewhere from a German pilot who survived the war asking why there were so many German Aces. He said (and I paraphrase heavily), "well... we were vastly outnumbered. Any time we took off from a field we didn't have to fly very far to encounter the enemy. We had many more opportunities to fight than the allies did".


There was another little phrase as I recall.  

As german fighter pilot ace Gunther Rall (275 kills) said in an interview many years after World War 2, such endless combat activity simply meant that "It was either the Iron Cross or the wooden cross" - a medal or a grave.


LTARsqrl  

:aok
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Hyrax81st on June 23, 2004, 02:34:58 AM
LOL !!!

I love that quote... great sense of humor (or fatalism).
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: rpm on June 23, 2004, 03:42:27 AM
Well this current situation started about 9am yesterday. Bish outnumbered Nits and Ruks and the Nits and Ruks were busy fighting each other. We had the town next to HQ (17 I think) flat and could not capture because the goons were being sniped by an m8 while every single fighter was vulching. No amount of pleading would get them to go to the town and kill 1 measley m8. We lost 2 goons in less than 5 minutes.

Meanwhile 20 or more bish were milkrunning empty Ruk bases in the south and would not stop and help reclaim the HQ bases.

I have been Bish from Day 1 and never considered switching. What I watched today I made me sick. We Bish deserve this reset. :(

HotDogMn
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Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Replicant on June 23, 2004, 05:59:10 AM
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Originally posted by Broes
When I joined AH (version 1.05) rooks were in the bucket... and it lasted up till somewhere 1.08 or 1.09 and then the knights took over being the outnumbered species.

During all these times it was not uncommon at times for bish to outnumbered the knights AND rooks combined....

Each and every time a rook or a knight complained about this unfairness bish people told them to shut up and take it in the 4ss because every now and then it happens to all the teams....

:p Watch me gloat :D

Broesy


It simply goes around.  From 2000 - late 2001 the Knights were the strongest and most populated country in AH.  Bish didn't even win a rest until mid-2001!  So when nits complained they had very short memories since they gangbanged everyone for the first 1 1/2 years.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Adogg on June 23, 2004, 08:19:28 AM
Its true some of the activity last night was unbecoming. But there was some real heroics around P7 at about 10-10.30p EST.

I do however dispute the claims of a dramatic drop in the Bish:rook:Knit ratio. When i was on last night we were only down by about 30 players compared to the other two teams.

On the weekend I logged on 4-5 times for 2-3 hours  a piece and the ratios were about 83:86:89. That's hardly uneven.

I don't know if the Bish just can't cope with the new FM, are unable to figure out the meaning of teamwork, or are point-whoring slobberdonkeys.

Possibly a combination of all three. No point in disparing the alt monkeys/hordes etc. IF a tactic consistently kills you then its effective.  End of story. All is fair in love and war. And guess what folks - it's war.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: jaxxo on June 23, 2004, 09:48:15 AM
Gunther Rall (275 kills)..Would love to see what type of aircraft and the time frame of his career starting with his first kill....probably a Bi-plane
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Cooley on June 23, 2004, 11:55:27 AM
http://members.aol.com/DrMondo7/Rall.html
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Post by: 6GunUSMC on June 23, 2004, 02:35:51 PM
Bishops will be back in force when sheep are modeled for AHII.  :D :lol :rofl
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Post by: SLO on June 23, 2004, 04:04:01 PM
you would be welcomed Morpheus....always need good sticks around.....

as for me...It pisses me off....but hey....think about it...I now fly the YAK9u on a daily basis.....now that ain't good for the crooks and nitwits....my gunnery is gettin much much better:rofl
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Overlag on June 23, 2004, 04:37:31 PM
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Originally posted by 6GunUSMC
Bishops will be back in force when sheep are modeled for AHII.  :D :lol :rofl


true...i sure to miss a bit of sheep...... :(
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Post by: MotorOil on June 23, 2004, 04:46:57 PM
Someone on the Bish said, " Let's go Rook" and twenty did.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Morpheus on June 23, 2004, 04:57:57 PM
I know when I left the bish a year or so ago I took about 10 or more players with me. Most are still flying rook along with a large majority of Wax's squad which too me a long while to get him to come Rook.

Its ironic that I may be trying to persuade players to go bish now. One thing I just dont like is flying for the country with the largest numbers. The rooks at night, and at prime time (USA) are nothing short of a hornets nest overtaking nearly every base they swarm to. It can get very frustrating.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Overlag on June 23, 2004, 05:05:25 PM
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I know when I left the bish a year or so ago I took about 10 or more players with me. Most are still flying rook along with a large majority of Wax's squad which too me a long while to get him to come Rook.

Its ironic that I may be trying to persuade players to go bish now. One thing I just dont like is flying for the country with the largest numbers. The rooks at night, and at prime time (USA) are nothing short of a hornets nest overtaking nearly every base they swarm to. It can get very frustrating.



would be nice if more people rotated to the lesser side.........



im more pissed than most because of this, i was a knight when they was stuck in a hole, then my squad disbaned and moved to hornets in bishland, just as bish turned to the weaker side.....so its been like a whole year now being generaly outnumberd (at prime time anyway)

but then thats my own fault lol
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Morpheus on June 23, 2004, 05:08:52 PM
I will be honest.

The few times that I have gone to the bish I have been accused of being a spy along with anyone else I will rotate with. Funny how the Nights dont do this... AND I've switched to nights nearly once a week now. Not lately because Im not playing much anymore but up until a few weeks ago that was the case.

I just dont like the BS of going to the Bishop and having to listen to the "Arm Chair Generals". Which the Bishop have many more of than the Nights and Rooks combined.
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Overlag on June 23, 2004, 05:24:34 PM
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I will be honest.

The few times that I have gone to the bish I have been accused of being a spy along with anyone else I will rotate with. Funny how the Nights dont do this... AND I've switched to nights nearly once a week now. Not lately because Im not playing much anymore but up until a few weeks ago that was the case.

I just dont like the BS of going to the Bishop and having to listen to the "Arm Chair Generals". Which the Bishop have many more of than the Nights and Rooks combined.


68ace flew for a day with us the other day, and most bish was doing this

they moan about numbers, but when someone rotates they call them spys?!?!? :lol :rolleyes:
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: SLO on June 23, 2004, 07:25:03 PM
Morpheus....

this weekend US(Hornets...BOP's...AK's) held the port while we where is deep doodoo....

its not all the Bish that whine....

Christ even Shane was a Bish this weekend:eek: ....go figure that 1 out


like I said....anytime you wanna fly wing....come on over....and trust me...action will be plenty
Title: Where o where are thy Bish?
Post by: Morpheus on June 23, 2004, 08:28:25 PM
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they moan about numbers, but when someone rotates they call them spys?!?!?


LOL I know right!

I love irony. Its just so dam funny!









LMFAO TW!
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Post by: jetb123 on June 23, 2004, 09:05:37 PM
I love it when we are outnumbered its fun. I got 5 kills in a typh before when we had 2 bases I got a whopping 30perks. I was cherry picking bombers trying to get to our hq. It fun when perk rides are really cheap. The funny thing about it is. The other coutry will work its but off to get reset, But they only get 75perks. I made atleast 150 perks that night.
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Post by: Nomde on June 23, 2004, 09:22:38 PM
Morpheus,
I was gonna say something good about that avatar, but with my luck you'd change it to a plumbers crack, nuff said, hehe :D