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Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 02:00:47 AM
Will you:

Rally behind your president

or

Become anti-american?
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:04:12 AM
when? lol

what do you mean by "rally behind the president"?
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 02:07:36 AM
"When" is playing off of Grun's post of the same title.

"Rally" means support.

Any other sort of weak questions or are you ready to sign up and say something? ;)
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:09:27 AM
Yeah, rally behind him? as in everything he does?
 I dont rally behind anyone for all causes. You must be specific, unlike Kerry himself.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 24, 2004, 02:10:04 AM
Rally:
   1.  To call together for a common purpose; assemble: rally troops at a parade ground.
   2. To reassemble and restore to order: rally scattered forces.
   3. To rouse or revive from inactivity or decline: paused to refresh themselves and rally their strength.

damnit Nash :D
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:11:49 AM
Nash, what exactly does Kerry offer America in your opinion? Name a few things Kerry will improve for us.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 02:13:01 AM
What's with all the Webster rip-n-pastes lately?

Y'all just discovering words for the first time?

Yeah it's an exciting journey and a bit humbling to some here I would imagine... but lets try and keep up.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 02:14:56 AM
No no no Nuke.

Two choices:

Main Entry: 1two
Pronunciation: 'tü
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English twa, two, from Old English twA (feminine & neut.); akin to Old English twEgen two (masculine), tu (neuter), Old High German zwEne, Latin duo, Greek dyo
1 : being one more than one in number
2 : being the second -- used postpositively


Support?

Or....

Unamerican?

Kinda like... black.... AND.... white...

Simple huh?

Pick.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:15:14 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
What's with all the Webster rip-n-pastes lately?

Y'all just discovering words for the first time?

Yeah it's an exciting journey and a bit humbling to some here I would imagine... but lets try and keep up.


what does "y'all" mean ?:p
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:17:42 AM
Since you are making zero sense Nash, I say goodnight brother

I love you!
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 02:19:48 AM
I hate you Nuke you nazi-dog. :)
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: NUKE on June 24, 2004, 02:21:01 AM
well Nash, I could never hate you ...you make me smile :)

Take care
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nilsen on June 24, 2004, 03:29:04 AM
Someone should make a cartoon strip with characters from the o'club. Every week one pair of posters could get their conversation drawn.
Title: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: sling322 on June 24, 2004, 07:48:04 AM
I will have to put a roof on the pig pen because if that happens pigs flying is surely next.
Title: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nilsen on June 24, 2004, 07:57:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by sling322
I will have to put a roof on the pig pen because if that happens pigs flying is surely next.


better start hammering then and get the camera ready
Title: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: lada on June 24, 2004, 08:01:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by sling322
I will have to put a roof on the pig pen because if that happens pigs flying is surely next.



hehe well Bush already show, that he can win election even if he will get less Votes, so im not wondering about your point of view :D
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Otto on June 24, 2004, 08:15:20 AM
I'll 'Rally' behind the country and hope it's here four years later.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: lazs2 on June 24, 2004, 08:31:22 AM
lada... yes you can win an election with less votes.  end of civics lesson.

nash.. name something kerry would do and I will make a decision..  I do not believe that I have ever insinuated that anyone who disagrees with government is "un American".  I do not believe big government is very "American".

I have however pointed out that some are "not Americans" and "anti American foriegn socialist tools" people like yourself.

I have pointed out that said anti American foreign socialist tools do not get to vote in our elections but are bitter and jealous that we do and are obsessed by America.  

lazs
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Gunslinger on June 24, 2004, 08:38:43 AM
Kerry will:

1. Raise Taxes
2.  turn our troops over to the UN
3.  Screw the economy
4.  Hamper Big businiess
5.  create more welfare and less jobs
6.  raise the minimum wage wich makes everything more expensive for everyone.
7.  Attempt to create the socialist utopia that has never worked
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Wolf14 on June 24, 2004, 08:51:21 AM
Kerry will:

TAKE AWAY MY PROJECTILE TOYS!


Things like the economy always seem to go up and down. Other things that they make laws for to restrict or take away seem to be more permanent. Only later they may realize the error of their ways but they are to arrogant to admit they were wrong.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: lazs2 on June 24, 2004, 08:52:12 AM
well...yeah.  

but, that is what makes him a plus for the American bashing liberal socialist foreigners on this board.   I mean... klinton did all those things and we managed to get out of most of em with only 4 years of Bush so what would be the harm?

let kerry screw things up for 4 or more years or untill the public gets wise and then a Republican can fix it in a couple of years and we can start all over.

lazs
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Torque on June 24, 2004, 08:59:38 AM
He'll pronounce Abu Ghraib correctly?
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Eagler on June 24, 2004, 09:12:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Torque
He'll pronounce Abu Ghraib correctly?


he wouldn't have to, after Nov it will drop like a stone from the radar screen - no matters who wins

why don't we talk about walking on Mars? same chance as herman winning in Nov

LandSlide Bush
(http://www.onlineathens.com/images/092101/bush.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: TheDudeDVant on June 24, 2004, 09:20:49 AM
Quote
Originally posted by sling322
I will have to put a roof on the pig pen because if that happens pigs flying is surely next.


I thought it was pigs would fly outta your ass... Not outta your barn... Less your bellybutton is as big as a barn... Then I can understand...
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: TheDudeDVant on June 24, 2004, 09:24:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Torque
He'll pronounce Abu Ghraib correctly?



lmao! did you see that interview! Was almost like he had to reboot his operating system after he realized he said it wrong.. hahahahaha

Abu Garef........................ ............................. ....
............................. ............................. ........
............................. ............................. ........
............................. ............................. .........
............uh............... .......situation.............
Title: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 24, 2004, 10:50:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Will you:

Rally behind your president

or

Become anti-american?


Not one person answered your question...not one...


[thread hijack on]
On another note, it's wonderful to know that we're now negotiating with North Korea..we're actually giving them money to play nice and do away with their nukes...WTF is that about?

would that constitute a, "flip flop?"

I don't expect an answer, either...

[thread hijack off]
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: muckmaw on June 24, 2004, 11:14:07 AM
How can you rally behind someone when you don't know what they're going to do?

If Kerry takes us to war, then I would rally behind him, simply as a show of solidarity against whomever our enemy is.

If Kerry raises taxes and swells the welfare rolls, and further restricts gun laws, then I would be against him, though I hardly see being against a president on domestic issues as Un-American.
Title: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: muckmaw on June 24, 2004, 11:15:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Not one person answered your question...not one...


[thread hijack on]
On another note, it's wonderful to know that we're now negotiating with North Korea..we're actually giving them money to play nice and do away with their nukes...WTF is that about?

[thread hijack off]


Ask Bill Clinton....

Better yet, maybe it's in his book.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 24, 2004, 11:21:14 AM
Now, that's an answer, free of foolish yet colorful metaphors

Muckmaw, why would I ask Bill Clinton when it's Bush Administration that just made the decision? I don't recall Clinton threatening to go to war with NK, although maybe he did, I can't remember.
Title: Re: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: sling322 on June 24, 2004, 11:33:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
I thought it was pigs would fly outta your ass... Not outta your barn... Less your bellybutton is as big as a barn... Then I can understand...


I believe that would be "monkeys flying out of my butt" that you are thinking of which is not the same as "when pigs fly" that I was referring to.

And Nilsen and lada....last time I checked you dont get a vote in the US election, do you?  I didnt think so.....so STFU.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: midnight Target on June 24, 2004, 11:37:32 AM
Ummm. yes?

What was the question?











(We can all only hope that things go half as well as they did the last time we had a Democrat running the show.)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: TheDudeDVant on June 24, 2004, 11:39:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by sling322
I believe that would be "monkeys flying out of my butt" that you are thinking of which is not the same as "when pigs fly" that I was referring to.

And Nilsen and lada....last time I checked you dont get a vote in the US election, do you?  I didnt think so.....so STFU.


lol  fair nuff 8)
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Toad on June 24, 2004, 11:49:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I don't recall Clinton threatening to go to war with NK, although maybe he did, I can't remember.


I don't think there were any publicy announced threats. However, launching preemptive military strikes against North Korea's nuclear installations was considered prior to the 1994 agreement. The Clinton administration developed contingency plans for such attacks.

From what I've read so far, the US offer to the NK's was generated because the "regional partners" in the talks threatened to pull out if we didn't offer something right now. I support Bush's first position; let 'em starve, I don't care.

However, I think this move was clearly politically/election driven.

As for Nash's question, I'd do what I'm doing now. Read about the issues, make up my mind and write to my Reps as necessary.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Furious on June 24, 2004, 11:54:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
well...yeah.  

but, that is what makes him a plus for the American bashing liberal socialist foreigners on this board.   I mean... klinton did all those things and we managed to get out of most of em with only 4 years of Bush so what would be the harm?

let kerry screw things up for 4 or more years or untill the public gets wise and then a Republican can fix it in a couple of years and we can start all over.

lazs

I love that a "libertarian" is such a bush/rep shill.

Especially since you have to know that both these guys would **** your life just to get/stay in office.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: MrLars on June 24, 2004, 12:57:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
I do not believe that I have ever insinuated that anyone who disagrees with government is "un American".
lazs


Not saying you did Laz but in the event JK does win I suspect that this UBB's search function will get a good workout with people looking up phrases like "Unpatriotic", "Support the President", "Wartime President", "Aid to the enemy" and so on.

I wonder who will be labeled as the most hypocritcal poster here?

BTW, if you want to criticize JK, if he becomes President, by all means do so since it's your right. Just don't complain when someone exposes the hypocrisy.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nilsen on June 24, 2004, 01:02:26 PM
search function does not work
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: MrLars on June 24, 2004, 01:19:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
search function does not work


It works for me.
Title: like this pix so much think im going to put it everywhere
Post by: Eagler on June 24, 2004, 01:36:21 PM
(http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/MichaelMooreStupid.jpg)
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nilsen on June 24, 2004, 01:49:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MrLars
It works for me.


For me too now for some reason. Didnt use too, must be new firefox version or something.

Check this one: :rofl

http://www.blogumentary.org/video/banjobush.mov

here is more:

http://www.jameswjohnson.com/movies/bushman.htm
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: lazs2 on June 24, 2004, 02:28:03 PM
lars... I don't believe I have called anyone unpatriotic either.   I agree with you that you should... no... it is your duty to criticize government.

I have however, pointed out that some of the criticism is pretty lame and hysterical.   I have also pointed out that those who seem the most critical are not even citizens of this country.   They of course would be... non-American?  Most are blatantly anti anything American too.

as for the question... I would buy the DVD set of all the past munster series shows in order to show my support.

As for anything specific... give me a specific and I will tell you yay or nay about the "rally behind" thing.

lazs
Title: Re: like this pix so much think im going to put it everywhere
Post by: Sixpence on June 24, 2004, 02:33:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
(http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/MichaelMooreStupid.jpg)


He looks like Rush Limbaugh with glasses. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: VOR on June 24, 2004, 04:24:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Not one person answered your question...not one...


I was reading a similar thread (think it even has a similar thread title) and thinking the same thing.

Bush isn't my first choice for prez, but I'm inclined to vote for him because he isn't Kerry. Apparently the "ABB" syndrome works in reverse, and I feel like a buffoon for giving serious consideration to casting my vote for A because he isn't B. It's embarassing to admit it, honestly.

To answer your question: If Kerry wins, I'll back him up 100% (nevermind that I won't have a choice anyway). They say false motivation is better than no motivation.
Title: Re: Re: like this pix so much think im going to put it everywhere
Post by: VOR on June 24, 2004, 04:27:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sixpence
He looks like Rush Limbaugh with glasses. Hmmmm.


They're the same guy with two separate Zurich accounts. :D

The difference for me is that once in a while Rush says something that I agree with or I can see some logic in. Moore..well..he's just Moore.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Otto on June 24, 2004, 07:07:26 PM
I should add...., I'll 'Rally' behind John Kerry just like the Liberal's have 'Rallied' behind George Bush.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 07:28:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Otto
I should add...., I'll 'Rally' behind John Kerry just like the Liberal's have 'Rallied' behind George Bush.


Right, which would be just like how the Neo's here on this BBS rallied behind Clinton before that .

Same thing, round and round. But I don't think I ever heard anyone here accuse anyone of being "unamerican" for their dissent.

As far as I'm concerned, the neo's invented this sort of political hate... and they are reaping what they've sowed. As far as so-called respect for the office, the neo's have trampled it. This level of vitriol didn't exist before Clinton. I'm afraid it's here to stay. Pretty sad.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: rpm on June 24, 2004, 07:40:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Right, which would be just like how the Neo's here on this BBS rallied behind Clinton before that .

Same thing, round and round. But I don't think I ever heard anyone here accuse anyone of being "unamerican" for their dissent.

As far as I'm concerned, the neo's invented this sort of political hate... and they are reaping what they've sowed. As far as so-called respect for the office, the neo's have trampled it. This level of vitriol didn't exist before Clinton. I'm afraid it's here to stay. Pretty sad.

Yet another great quote ther Nash!:aok
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: J_A_B on June 24, 2004, 08:50:30 PM
"As far as I'm concerned, the neo's invented this sort of political hate... "

Look up the hate in the time of Jefferson and Adams, or better yet during Jackson's presidency, or even the stuff directed at Van Buren.

And how about the election of 1860 and several entire states threatening to secede if Lincoln were to win (and actually going so far as to follow through with their threats)?



It's nothing new.  Really.  It just seems different because we're living it instead of reading about it in the history books.  I don't usually involve myself in political discussions anymore due to the pointlessness of it, but claiming that political hate never used to exist....is simply erroneous.

J_A_B
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 08:58:35 PM
Okay let me rename it. Neo-hate.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Otto on June 24, 2004, 09:25:49 PM
Well...., I don't 'hate' anyone, but I do agree with you that's exactly what Liberals have for George Bush.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 09:43:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Otto
"... that's exactly what Liberals have for George Bush."


Fight fire with fire I guess.

Are there any other options? Play dead? I think not.

You folks are good at hate. And it did catch a lot of poeple off guard. But it turns out, you aren't that clever nor creative about it. With you, it's more about the sledgehammer approach. Which, I'll admit... has been workin' like a charm. I think mostly because it was new territory.

Now I think two can play at that game, and one can play better. You will have to drift ever further afield to play upon fringe-like ignorance, fear and hate... because people get desensitized. So your strat will either implode or alienate you from...well... normal people.

Anything close-minded people can do, open-minded people can do better. Including hate. Game on.

 :lol :confused: :aok :rofl :( :o :D
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Yeager on June 24, 2004, 10:54:41 PM
If Kerry is elected President I will support him.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: Nash on June 24, 2004, 10:55:46 PM
Really?

That's nuts.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: MrLars on June 25, 2004, 04:33:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
lars... I don't believe I have called anyone unpatriotic either.   I agree with you that you should... no... it is your duty to criticize government.

I have however, pointed out that some of the criticism is pretty lame and hysterical.   I have also pointed out that those who seem the most critical are not even citizens of this country.   They of course would be... non-American?  Most are blatantly anti anything American too.

as for the question... I would buy the DVD set of all the past munster series shows in order to show my support.

As for anything specific... give me a specific and I will tell you yay or nay about the "rally behind" thing.

lazs


I liked Fred Gwynn, the compairison is funny. He is a likeable guy.

I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to debate points before November.

The next few months are going to be very interesting. Events comming to light in the next week to ten days will keep this UBB very busy.
Title: Re: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: storch on June 25, 2004, 05:14:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
Will you:

Rally behind your president

or

Become anti-american?


The Liberty Bell will spontaneously melt down and the Washinton Monument will take off like a Saturn V and land on the moon.

As with the above kerry becoming President will never happen.
Title: When John Kerry becomes President
Post by: AKIron on June 25, 2004, 08:20:52 AM
Should the worst happen I'd take it stoically, already have 8 years of practice. Maybe he can lead us to destruction with less embarassment and hoopla than his mentor.