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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LeadGen on June 24, 2004, 09:10:48 PM
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A quick note to say goodbye to all my friends, and foes..
Aces High II just isn't fun any more, the program clearly wasn't ready to be forced on people, and I just don't enjoy AHII like I did AHI. The icons suck, the trees suck, the frames rates are rediculous unless you reduce your vis range to so close you can't see the enemy firing on you ( GV and PTs). Whats with a 17 frame rate sitting in the tower?? Screen flickering, and yes I downloaded all the new video drivers..I have a very decent computer too not some Emachines piece of crap. Joystick calibration in AHII is a step back from AHI.. and I had hoped too that HT would do something about 2-account cheating bastages by now but they don't seem to care.
I wasn't much of a fighter pilot or a very good bomber but I did enjoy flying drunks around ( #1 rank for field captures with a goon last 4 tours ). In AHII its just not the same, and it's definitely not better, and no longer worth paying for.
I will definitely miss alot of you, especially my squad but also those of you I flew with the rest of the time. I probably won't miss getting shot down by Taki
Maybe I'll check back in 6 or 8 months and to see if HT ever gets it right.
Salute Rooks! ok nits and bish too..
LeadGen
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whenther or not it was ready for full release is a matter of opinion, but I assure you HTC is no where near done with making improvements to the game. Its only been out for maybe a week, Perhaps you just need to take a lil brake while they work out some issues. Or maybe take this opportunity to improve your fighter/bomber skillz which you stated need improvement.
I am sure HTC will soon address the base capture issue, you are not the only one un-impressed. I guess I'm just sayin you might wanna give it a lil more time before you make this decision, its still REAL early.
Im still tryin to get into the game with my dinosaur CPU, I havent gotten as far as you, & I haven't given up yet-:)
Anton
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OR, reopen AH1 and let them finish AHII:eek:
Then when it's truly ready do a weekend {mainly because #'s are up then} test with the AH community, get the feedback, see what's up.
Then when Monday rolls around HTC can say A}we need to work out this or that
B}We nailed it, AHII now open for business
Just hate to see player after player leaving the game:(
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Yep, it is totally lame. Sad to see those leave that have been playing for so long.
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LeadGen - Hope you have not left yet! Give it some time - It grows on you like some kind of fungus - Really give it some time.
Always enjoy workin' with ya!
:)
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I too have the same feelings as LeadGen. On the AHII subject, this final release was no better then the first beta, only difference was choices...AH was fine the way it was and I begged on many occasions to Skuzzy or HiTech..."Please leave AH open for $10 a month, and open AHII for $19 a month and give ppl the right to choose. This way HTC gets their money either way and long time vets dont feel like they need to buy a new pc to play it. Personally, my pc plays it fine and I have no problems with it, but this is like when Coke came out with the New Coke, sure maybe it was a great idea in the beginning, but nothing can replace the original. Improvments to AH would have been much more viable solution rather than releasing a new game.
I have flown with you many times Mr. LeadGen and many of you pilots know me from my ex/squad RT. It is extremely sad to see good and decent players leave because HTC had a baby that not everyone thought was that cute...
I have cancelled my membership/subscription as well, not because I am upset or my pc wont run AHII....but there was just a sad feeling of goodbye when I went to log into AH and it told me I needed to download the latest version(because I deleted AHII...just couldnt do it again. So to my fellow pilots, I am honoured to have flown with a great group of guys rooks, bish and knight! I hope you all enjoy the new version. In the meantime, I have found City of Heros and now am putting my 15 a month towards that = )
If anyone see's an RT member in the game let em know my decision and tell to keep flying high!!! Thanks for the fun!
RTDarksn / Darksun6
Darksun@cableone.net
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AH1 is dead. Its gone. Get over it.
It was past time for HTC to upgrade the graphics engine and that is what they have done with AH2. It would be stupid for them to leave AH1 open and devote time to maintaining it when all their time could be spent improving and developing AH2. It would be a total waste of resources. Remember, there are only 7 people in that office. Its not like they have a large staff of programmers and artists working there.
Another thing....if you are having problems with screen flickers, frame rates, etc and you have a "very decent computer", maybe you need to check if its your machine causing the problems and not the software. My computer isnt all that hot: AMD2400, 512 PC133 RAM and an ATI 64meg DDR vid card, but I can crank out frame rates in the 30s pretty much all the time in the MA. I know it could be higher if I put in DDR ram and a better vid card. I will probably be called a smartass or something for making that suggestion like I was in another thread, but I am just getting tired of people complaining about the software and just chalking it up to HTC's fault. With minimal effort and a little time spent in the beta, most people could probably have figured out what they needed to do to run it. Its not like we didnt have plenty of warning that the game was changing....hell we were in beta for like 9 months werent we?
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Originally posted by RTDarksun
On the AHII subject, this final release was no better then the first beta, only difference was choices...
:eek:
-Sik
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What you guys don't realize is that AH2 at it's release is WAY better and WAY less buggy then AH1 was at it release
The problem here is the the change in gameplay that comes with the improvements
If your framerate sucks, first thing to do is turn the textures down to 256, it makes a huge difference at a smll cost in "eye candy"
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Originally posted by MOIL
OR, reopen AH1 and let them finish AHII:eek:
Then when it's truly ready do a weekend {mainly because #'s are up then} test with the AH community, get the feedback, see what's up.
Then when Monday rolls around HTC can say A}we need to work out this or that
B}We nailed it, AHII now open for business
Just hate to see player after player leaving the game:(
where were you during the Beta?
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Matter of opinion I guess. Playing AH2 last night (for the first extended period) was the most fun I've had in AH for a long time. If the icons, etc are really a deal breaker then not much that can be said -- to each his own and have fun wherever you land
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But if performance is more the issue than it might be worth working with it some more if you have a reasonable system already. If it's not close to today's common gaming machine then unfortunately, progress marches on. I certainly sympathize. I've had to upgrade my system a quite few times since 1988 to play a new game (really the only thing that has forced me to upgrade -- certainly not the next edition of MS Word). The only difference today is that it's easier and cheaper than ever. You can get a new video card (top of the line) for what a 4 meg ram update used to cost.
Charon
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I have noticed that if I dont have 100+ posts by my name I am considered a noob. Alot of what you all are refuting has nothing to do with what I stated. Let me state it again...
I liked AH...
I dont like AHII...
My pc runs it fine...
I have played it since beta and anxiously awaited the final product...
I didnt mind paying 15 bucks a month for AH...
I do mind paying 19 bucks a month for a game I dont enjoy...
And once again, this is my opinion...and as you may be getting tired of hearing it, others may benefit from it.
I saw a post by someone I flew with, I agreed and stated that opinion in text...thats it, nothing mean or bad, just responding to a post. If in 2-4 months HTC gets the game finished in a final product maybe I would rejoin, but for now, I cant see paying for something I do not enjoy. Maybe you enjoy it, maybe it is the best game out there, but I dont and...that's ok = )
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I do mind paying 19 bucks a month for a game I dont enjoy
I do not understand this line? Do you think the price changed?
HiTech
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Wow, what a difference in opinion we have. I personally thing that AH2 is a 1000 times better than AH1. Sure there are a few bugs, and I need to upgrade the puter, but guess what, My puter is 2 and a 1/2 years old, and it needed doing anyways. Every release the game is better, and it has become more challenging. IMHO, AH2 is great, and will be awesome in time.
lol, bet ole "wild dickweed" is quaking in his boots over this one...
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Originally posted by Bodhi
lol, bet ole "wild dickweed" is quaking in his boots over this one...
Eh, Wild Bildo is probably trying to figure out who to sue over this.
-Sik
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Originally posted by MaddogWx
LeadGen - Hope you have not left yet! Give it some time - It grows on you like some kind of fungus - Really give it some time.
Always enjoy workin' with ya!
:)
MaddogWX,
Thanks for the kind words, I always enjoyed flying with you as well. Yes I did already cancel, I wasn't threatening to cancel, I was saying good bye. I will however check back from time to time and see if things have improved, perhaps in a few months.
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Originally posted by RTDarksun
I have flown with you many times Mr. LeadGen and many of you pilots know me from my ex/squad RT. It is extremely sad to see good and decent players leave because HTC had a baby that not everyone thought was that cute...
Darksun@cableone.net
RTDarksun,
Enjoyed flying with you as well and I'm sure you'll be missed. The entire Rapid Thunder crew was an honor to work with.
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Bodhi wrote:
I personally thing that AH2 is a 1000 times better than AH1.
I completely agree! And it will become better... :aok
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Originally posted by MOIL
OR, reopen AH1 and let them finish AHII:eek:
Just hate to see player after player leaving the game:(
LtarMoil,
I'm with you, I'd come back if they would reopen AH and get back to work on AHII. I'd even pay more for AHbut right now I'm not paying for AHII. On the last day AH was available there were still 250+ players in the MA, that says something to me about AHII.
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There are alot of people who have no clue as to what it would take for HT to maintain and balance 2 code bases (AH I and AH II are 2 different animals) ... nor do they realize the $ cost of maintaining multiple (duplicate) servers to run both AH I and AH II at the same time.
If AH I were kept alive, which version gets the attention of HT. I can see the mayhem when HTC annouces new plane additions to AH II and the AH I crying for the same planes ... again ... remember that planes in AH II cannot function in AH I, so HT would have to duplicate the effort for AH I.
Key word in all of this is DUPLICATE. Duplication in the software world is STUPID and guaranteed to cause more problems than its worth and results in loss of money. I don't know about you, but I don't think that HTC goal is to lose money at the rate that "duplication" would create.
Then when it's truly ready do a weekend {mainly because #'s are up then} test with the AH community, get the feedback, see what's up.
Then when Monday rolls around HTC can say A}we need to work out this or that
B}We nailed it, AHII now open for business
You're kidding Moil .. right ?
We did the Beta thing ... a lot of us ... and from that statement, it appears that you didn't.
The logic in your statement is exactly what the Beta accomplished as far as HTC was concerned, so feel comfort in the fact that this was covered by a whole lot of Beta testers over the last month or so.
There is a magic point in software development/deployment where you just have to throw the switch and at that point you don't look back. I am a software developer by profession, and IMO HTC was not premature in their decision to go live with AH II.
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Originally posted by sling322
AH1 is dead. Its gone. Get over it.
Sling322,
I did, I voted with my $ and left, I'm over it. Its sad because I spent thousands of hours enjoying AH but couldnt find much enjoyment in AHII
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Originally posted by Flit
What you guys don't realize is that AH2 at it's release is WAY better and WAY less buggy then AH1 was at it release
The problem here is the the change in gameplay that comes with the improvements
If your framerate sucks, first thing to do is turn the textures down to 256, it makes a huge difference at a smll cost in "eye candy"
Flit,
I guess part of my problem is that a game like AHII shouldn't have been jammed down our throats and forced on us. Yes we all knew it was coming, that doesn't make the new version any better and I dont think HTC should have forced this one on us untill it was ready, and IMO its not even close. Another part of my problem is that I personally enjoyed the land grab, I was good at base captures, with my squad and other squads, or even solo captures. I didn't enjoy furballing or vulching, for me the game was about winning the war and you do that by capturing bases. In AHII capturing bases is no longer fun.
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Originally posted by LeadGen
I'm with you, I'd come back if they would reopen AH and get back to work on AHII.
How hard is it to understand that that isnt possible? AH is an ever-evolving game. Every new version since AH1 beta goes through the same process. The game is released, bugs are found, bugs are squashed, game improves. If you dont like this process or dont agree with it, then maybe you would be better off playing boxed games that dont have any updates because every online game I have ever played does the same thing that HTC is doing here.
Answer me this....how long have you been playing? Were you here when AH1 was in its developmental process and we were getting new versions and new planes every 6 months?
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Originally posted by anton
whenther or not it was ready for full release is a matter of opinion, but I assure you HTC is no where near done with making improvements to the game. Its only been out for maybe a week, Perhaps you just need to take a lil brake while they work out some issues. Or maybe take this opportunity to improve your fighter/bomber skillz which you stated need improvement.
I am sure HTC will soon address the base capture issue, you are not the only one un-impressed. I guess I'm just sayin you might wanna give it a lil more time before you make this decision, its still REAL early.
Im still tryin to get into the game with my dinosaur CPU, I havent gotten as far as you, & I haven't given up yet-:)
Anton
Anton ,
I guess you could say thats what I'm doing, taking a break and waiting to see if the game becomes worth paying for in the future. I expect it will take them months. If HTC addresses the base capture issue it might be worth playing in the future for those of us that who particularly enjoyed or were good at gooning. I'd hope they do something about the FH's regenerating in 2 minutes and the 75% fuel BS too.
Also I want to add that I don't fault HTC for trying to improve their product, there are many good new points about AHII like the CVs, I simply don't feel this one should have been forced on those who wanted and were willing to pay for AH. Personally I liked AH and would like to have seen some minor changes made to it and the addition of alot more maps. With the base capture being what it is in AHII the complaints of "My God when is this map going to change!" are going to be more and more frequent.
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Where o' where is Airhead when he is needed most.
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If HTC addresses the base capture issue it might be worth playing in the future for those of us that who particularly enjoyed or were good at gooning. I'd hope they do something about the FH's regenerating in 2 minutes and the 75% fuel BS too.
What is wrong with the base capture ?
Last night I captured 1 in a goon and flew cap in another capture. I saw no problems. Knock all the buildings and ack down ... kick the drunks out and it's done ... same as AH I.
Last night I also knocked out VHs and FHs and flew cap. Never saw one regenerate before its 15 minute time period.
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Originally posted by sling322
How hard is it to understand that that isnt possible? AH is an ever-evolving game. Every new version since AH1 beta goes through the same process. The game is released, bugs are found, bugs are squashed, game improves. If you dont like this process or dont agree with it, then maybe you would be better off playing boxed games that dont have any updates because every online game I have ever played does the same thing that HTC is doing here.
Answer me this....how long have you been playing? Were you here when AH1 was in its developmental process and we were getting new versions and new planes every 6 months?
I don't play boxed games or any other sim, in fact I normally do not like games. I loved AH the moment I started playing, I was hooked. To answer your question no I haven't been around since the AW days like most of my squad. I joined AH about September of last year and have logged over 1000 hours in the air since then. mostly in C47's. Again I don't fault HTC for trying to improve the game but I happen to see AHII as less enjoyable, for me personally as a goon pilot, and also because of some of the changes that other people have said they like, like the icons and distance ranging which I dont care for, as well as things mentioned in my original post. For those that love the new game, more power to you, have fun furballing and hording.
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Funny how some people just don't get it :( . If one takes the time to think about it, AH1 was never "finished". The game is like a living creature, it must continue to grow and expand (and hopefully, improve). AH1 had reached a point where further expansion was really difficult. AH2 expands the possiblilites of growth for the game. What you see now (and play) is not what we will be playing a year from now. The fact that some can't step back a pace and try to look at the "big picture" is sad.
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It shouldn't be surprising though NB, since AHI has been static during the development of AHII.
I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, just that it happened that way. There are many many players out there who have not been around during times when HTC was upgrading every 3-4 months. They don't know the sheer joy of it all. I hope they stick around long enough to experience that.
-Sik
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I really hate to see people leave, especially guys like LeadGen.
But the came MUST evolve and move on, it simply cannot survive otherwise.
While AH II is not perfect, no game ever will be, it is where the future lies for HTC. It was time to make the move. This is not nearly so bad and so buggy as most games of this type are when they are introduced.
It must also be said that HTC could not possibly be expected to continue to support both AH and AH II. Hell, even Microsoft with all of its wealth and resources, ceases to support older software. And you pay a lot more for Microsoft software than you do for HTC software. And honestly HTC software is often a lot less buggy, and HTC is a lot more pleasant and helpful.
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Nothin more fun then new stuff.
Looking forward to the updates once again.
Been awhile.
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Leadgen, don't let the door......
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I just don't understand all this account canceling going on. The game itself hasn't changed that much. It seems to me that a lot of people need to get a grip and stop acting like a spoiled four year old told he can't have a toy.
HTC has demonstrated that they continually improve their product.
Anybody here remember AH v1.0? The people stomping ther feet and storming out would have been agast at what AH 1.0 was and yet it developed into AH v1.11 that they now claim was so much better than AH v2.0. Further, they're not even giving themselves time to ajust to the changes in AH v2.0.
AH v2.0 is a new engine. It is going to have bugs. AH has always had bugs and HTC has always worked to squish them. The potential for the new engine is vastly better than the old engine and it will develope.
Now, it is your money and your choice and all, but if you do quit, please, no more whiny "AH2 sucks!!!! I quit!!!!!" melodrama on the board please.
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Well if the cost went to $19 a month no one told me and I would most likely have to drop the old account if it did. Just a dollars vs. Time thing for me.
Anyway that isn't what this is about. Its about hearing for over a year that the game was going to require a complete overhaul of the graphics engine in order to move forward with the concepts and ideas that HTC has been working toward and wanting for a while now.
For those of us who have been here a while we have all seen HTC develop and build on existing software in small cycles with aircraft additions and such. Those things are not at a small cost to the overall game itself and many of them were significant improvements.
The idea of people getting ticked about base capture is somewhat silly even if it is the only reason you play the game. The point being that base capture hasn't changed in one single aspect that I have seen except now you really have to know the layout of the new bases and to me that doesn't really count.
So to you LeadGen good luck and we will see ya if we see ya! !
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Originally posted by Reschke
So to you LeadGen good luck and we will see ya if we see ya! !
Reshke,
Good luck and to you too
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Originally posted by Karnak
I just don't understand all this account canceling going on. The game itself hasn't changed that much. It seems to me that a lot of people need to get a grip and stop acting like a spoiled four year old told he can't have a toy.
Now, it is your money and your choice and all, but if you do quit, please, no more whiny "AH2 sucks!!!! I quit!!!!!" melodrama on the board please.
Karnak, and others..
Look I started this thread to say goodbye to my friends and other people I flew with, using the opportunity to explain to them my personal reasons. IMO the game is no longer as much fun or worth the fee, although I am sure it will eventually get there. If you like the way the game is now, thats great for you and I hope you have fun, seriously.
I didn't ask that anyone agree with or like my personal reasons for leaving, but if you are not a friend or someone I flew with, or at least have something constructive to say, please post on some other thread to someone who gives a dam what you think.
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Originally posted by LeadGen
Karnak, and others..
Look I started this thread to say goodbye to my friends and other people I flew with, using the opportunity to explain to them my personal reasons. IMO the game is no longer as much fun or worth the fee,
See now this is the best and most legitimate reaon for leaving.
If something is no longer fun for someone, then it is no longer worth the fee.
And if its no longer fun or worth the fee then yea. Its time to leave. Totally legitimate reason.
Now the ones who say "this or that needs to be fixed right now or Im leaving" Well Sorry, I dont feel a bit sympathetic for ya.
Im having problems myself with wildly unstable framerates and hiccups , And yes I've tried turning down textures, Adjusting the sliders. Adjusting my card itself to performance over detail. Adjusting the sound card Installing new drivers. installing dirX 9.b and almost every other suggestion I read on the boards
I've made several posts about this and unless I missed it not once hs anyone form HTC responded to me specificaly with a suggestion.
Am I moaning and throwing a tantrum about it? No
Am I making threats to leave? No
I am sure HTC has bigger fish to fry at the moment and respond to who they can when they can.
What I am doing is continuing to scan the boards for ideas and continuing to work on my end on my machine thinking that HTC will work on their end on their software thinking that eventually between them, myself, and the community we will get it all figured out eventually And we will all be one big happy dysfuntional family again.
My next step probably later tonight is to uninstall then reinstall AHII, My vid card
My sound card, And DirX and see if that does anything.
If it works, Ill post it, if not Ill post that too and see what happens. And in the meantime I'll have what fun I can.
I understand the frustratiuon of some like myself who have been able to install and run any game they buy smooth as silk. Including some that are far more graphic intencive the AHII without so much as a hiccup, burp, belch or squeal and manage to do so withtout tinkering with their settings at all yet have probs with AHII.
I feel the same frustration.
But there are exeptions to every rule
And I am far from ready to stamp my feet, make demands or give ultimatums.
I understand that this is a brand new game. One that probably didnt have nearly the amount of regular beta testers it needed including myself. So HTC could only go with the input they had and hope to fix everything else as they went along and as the situation arose.
And we as players can only give our feedback in as civil terms as possible and work WITH them to iron things out.
Wont work any other way.
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sling stated:
It was past time for HTC to upgrade the graphics engine and that is what they have done with AH2.:rofl
You bumped ur head
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Why do you guys debate his reasons to leave? If he wants to go let him go. Not your decision. :D
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I feel the same way. It's got 1 more week for me - if the video performance does not improve I'm gone. The video freeze/jitter is unacceptable.
AKPanther
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Hello again, I was just bidding farewell to LeadGen and stating that I too just didnt like the new AHII. I am so happy alot of you do like it!
But if Someone started a post and it said, "I like AH2 better then AH"
I guarantee you someone would immediatly post, "Well you havent given it a chance" or "Maybe if your pc could handle it" or "no AH2 is way better then AH"...
Thats how the BBs work, ppl make statements, and others who agree or disagree tend to post their opinion.
LeadGen, for every 1 person out there that doesnt like AH2, there are 2-5 who do...and thats ok!
I was completely and totally addicted to this game for over 3 years...and maybe this change was likened to buying a new car...
Yeah I own a 97 Camaro RS, I love this car...but just because the 2002 Camaro is more powerful or more eyecatching than my 97, doesnt mean I neccessarily want to give up my 97 and shell out more money for the 2002. Sure I'd love to have both, but the bottom line is, I like the 97, I am happy with it and until I find something better, I will always have it.
Difference is, my 97 was taken away for whatever reason, and now I have the choice of driving the 2002, I take it for a test drive and guess what...I dont like it compared to my 97. So I guess I will wait until the 2002 is what I want, or until then I will drive my wifes Toyota Camry...
I know, many will come back now and tell me its apples and oranges, but basically, my opinion is mine and I dont find AH2 as fun as AH.
HiTech, if I am wrong about it being 19 a month then I apologize. if it was 10 a month, I still wouldnt play simply because in my opinion, AH was a better and funner game. And when/if the new version is all fixed up, I will come back and try it out...until then, I will drive my wife's Camry
All!
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
Why do you guys debate his reasons to leave? If he wants to go let him go. Not your decision. :D
heh, cause you cant just quit.
Ya gotta be paroled:)
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Actually, I figured that regardless of how bugless the AH2 was a large number of players would end up leaving - I can't imagine HT didn't realize the same thing. I knew they'd leave for a number of reasons:
1) Hardware issues - got to admit this one almost pushed me out as well. The fact that PC h/w is changing so fast now that a card you bought 4 months ago can be classed as "slow" or "obsolete" strikes many people as ridiculous. Can you imagine the uproar if you had to upgrade the engine in your car as often as you have to upgrade your PC in order to play games like AH?
Standardization in this field is badly needed guys, you'd actually make more money than if you were constantly taking advantage of the newest bells and whistles (a fact that is proven by the PS2, Xbox, etc.) Not that AH2 didn't need a graphics engine upgrade, but it might have been a good idea to be a little more conservative in setting the typical specs necessary to play the game.
2) Flight model - As soon as I realized the flight model and gunnery had changed I knew many of the mid-range uber pilots would bail (particularly the spitty and nikki types). Going back to "everyone is a newbie now" isn't going to appeal to many people who enjoy the fact that they have learned a plane(s) fairly well and have gotten extremely comfortable in it. Just the fact that their beloved Spit IX now actually stalls (gasp, horror)was bound to drive many away.
I knew the really upper level uber pilots would stay because they know they'll master the new system as well and be owning truly talentless dweebs like myself again in no time and because they tend to enjoy the challenge.
3) Disappointments: Some, I knew would bail simply because I knew that after years of waiting they'd be disappointed at the end product.
But I also knew that if HT simply perseveres eventually the losses will be made up with new player subscriptions. So hang in there HT. Hey, if I can keep playing sims for 20 years knowing full well that I'll never be any better than Ham the flying chimp no matter how many hours I log, you can fly through the turbulance.
- SEAGOON
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LeadGen AND Darksun? Noo! Guys come back!
Well I can't really make you guys come back. It's your money, your choice and I respect that. If someone is not happy with what they're paying for on a monthly basis for whatever the reason, then so be it. People shouldn't be like "keep playing it" or "you haven't played it long enough".
to you both, I hope I'll see you guys in the future.
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Originally posted by LeadGen
A quick note to say goodbye to all my friends, and foes..
Aces High II just isn't fun any more, the program clearly wasn't ready to be forced on people, and I just don't enjoy AHII like I did AHI. The icons suck, the trees suck, the frames rates are rediculous unless you reduce your vis range to so close you can't see the enemy firing on you ( GV and PTs). Whats with a 17 frame rate sitting in the tower?? Screen flickering, and yes I downloaded all the new video drivers..I have a very decent computer too not some Emachines piece of crap. Joystick calibration in AHII is a step back from AHI.. and I had hoped too that HT would do something about 2-account cheating bastages by now but they don't seem to care.
I wasn't much of a fighter pilot or a very good bomber but I did enjoy flying drunks around ( #1 rank for field captures with a goon last 4 tours ). In AHII its just not the same, and it's definitely not better, and no longer worth paying for.
I will definitely miss alot of you, especially my squad but also those of you I flew with the rest of the time. I probably won't miss getting shot down by Taki
Maybe I'll check back in 6 or 8 months and to see if HT ever gets it right.
Salute Rooks! ok nits and bish too..
LeadGen
yea whatever
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Quitters are Losers
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Alot of you have said in this thread that it would be impossible to run both versions of AH...
Uh, Malarkey.
We did it just fine for months on end during beta testing, which in my opinion we are still testing and debugging. I agree with what Moil said earlier, I'd like to see AH1 back up and running at least until AH2 is 'finished' and ready.
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Originally posted by twitchy
I'd like to see AH1 back up and running at least until AH2 is 'finished' and ready.
Well you'll have a long wait for AH1 to come back up. :p :)
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Originally posted by twitchy
I'd like to see AH1 back up and running at least until AH2 is 'finished' and ready.
I doubt AH2 will ever be Finished, I would expect Patchs, improvments and game play adjustment right up till the next version of AH is in the works.
In fact, they never really finished AH1, They kept working on it right till they Started AH2
Doesnt anyone remember the progression of AH??
I am Sorry that some of you are Frustrated with the new version, but if you roll with it, it will do nothing be get better and better.
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I agree with what Moil said earlier, I'd like to see AH1 back up and running at least until AH2 is 'finished' and ready.
AH2 is finished and ready.
Not that AH2 didn't need a graphics engine upgrade, but it might have been a good idea to be a little more conservative in setting the typical specs necessary to play the game.
AH has been conservative enough. It's still lagging behind at least 2 years worth of tech curve. How more 'conservative' you want it to be? Just lookit what other contendors have to offer.
I knew the really upper level uber pilots would stay because they know they'll master the new system as well and be owning truly talentless dweebs like myself again in no time and because they tend to enjoy the challenge.
Actually its the upper level of pilots who are leaving - or at least, the loud ones. Obviously the fact that they couldn't land 15 kills in one sortie hurt their pride more than the newbies being more or less the same in their limited success.
3) Disappointments: Some, I knew would bail simply because I knew that after years of waiting they'd be disappointed at the end product.
And the end product is so limited, because HTC is still keeping the user specs as low as possible. Your points 1) and 3) are mutually incompatible.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Actually, I figured that regardless of how bugless the AH2 was a large number of players would end up leaving
1) Hardware issues
2) Flight model
3) Disappointments:
But I also knew that if HT simply perseveres eventually the losses will be made up with new player subscriptions. So hang in there HT. Hey, if I can keep playing sims for 20 years knowing full well that I'll never be any better than Ham the flying chimp no matter how many hours I log, you can fly through the turbulance.
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Pretty much hit the nail on the head Seagon. I will be hanging in there and enjoy the improvments as they come.