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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: StracCop on June 24, 2004, 11:12:21 PM
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Okay guys, I have a serious question that I hope
will elicit some serious responses.
I cancelled my sub about a year ago because
I tired of the mind numbing monotony of
MA gameplay. I read some of the interviews
that HT gave regarding AH2 and was excited.
Still, I got impatient and, not enjoying the game
anymore, cancelled my sub and began to wait
for AH2. Well, its here now and I'm trying to
understand what changed from AH1 and whether
or not the changes reflect an improvement in the
game, gameplay, or whether its just AH1 with
a new moniker.
Specifically, I'm wondering what the benefits of AH2 are over
what was offered in AH1. Is there enough improvement
to justify downloading the trial and perhaps renewing
my sub? Just what is different in AH2? From the
screen caps I've seen things are pretty much the same.
The gameplay hasn't changed at all from what I can
discern. So what makes AH2 better than AH1?
Hope someone can help me.
Thanks!
David
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Havn't played it yet. But you better, ya bastage. Ill be there on monday (thats when puter arrives). :D
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Hi!
The gameplay didnt change much from AH1. Gangbanging, landgrabbing, furballing and swearing. Oh wait, channel 200 turned to channel 1. 1 Is only for exchanging salutes ;)
The FM changed, for the better I think. Gunnery as well, and the Icons. All for the better although I couldnt try out the new +/- thingy yet. Graphics are considerably better, but not up to par with Il-2 and the likes, but maybe in the future, the Engine seems to be capable of more than is visible right now.
The thing that got you excited about AH2, the Tour of Duty isnt here yet. It is said to be a mission based arena. Or something like that. Meaning, not so much furballing, some landgrabbing maybe but coordinated, but surely still much swearing :D
The Tour of Duty will be the next step for HTC, I suppose they will start as soon as AH2 is working (more or less) bugless.
So thats it. If youre not sure, try it out. I mean, just pay for one month and see if you like it the way it is now. If not you can still cancel the account and wait for TOD.
Hope this helped somewhat. Seriously :)
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I agree. The best think you can do is give AH2 a swing. If ya like it, good, if not, well then you suck. :D
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To be honest...
Improved:
Graphics
Gunnery
Damage model
Flight Model
Same / Worse:
Gameplay (sucks beyond belief) your choices being:
(a) Get vulched
(b) Fly into a horde of 15-20 timid pilets and get banged slowly by b-n-zzzzzzzzzzzzers
Maybe once every hour or two you can accidently run into a good 2 vs 2..... maybe.
Perhaps I'm just having a bad week, could be.
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My advice, download the freebie and see what YOU think. GL.
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Dont bother. The game is full of bugs and is a long way from done.
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Fish, I think you are being to negative. Your just angry, like I am, that your computer can't handle it. I'm upset that people like me got left in the cold with AH2.
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Being degraded to this cold dark place called the BB. :p
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LOL XJ. You miss flying as much as I do XJ?
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You have no idea... My puter comes on monday tho. Then I can finally walk towards the light. I've gotten enough politics for one life time. :D
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
You have no idea... My puter comes on monday tho. Then I can finally walk towards the light. I've gotten enough politics for one life time. :D
LOL! Been there... :lol
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Originally posted by DipStick
LOL! Been there... :lol
It's just so true. :D
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Originally posted by Xargos
Fish, I think you are being to negative. Your just angry, like I am, that your computer can't handle it. I'm upset that people like me got left in the cold with AH2.
Man that is such a load of bs, Fish & others are telling it like it is and your dragging him to your corner of the "your mad for the same reason I am"
Your system this, your system that.........blah blah blah:rolleyes:
Got left in the cold in more ways than one IMO
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I agree, the game is just AH with a graphics facelift...and its not even a good one, more like the dr. f**ked up and tried to cover his mistake. No one can honestly say right at this moment...that they would rather be playing AHII in its current state than playing AH in its last state...again, IMO
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Wrong RTD, I can and i will.
Left AH1 about 6 month ago, just didn't enyoy it anymore nad hated the looks. Started flying AH2 in Beta and guess what I love it :).
Just another opinion.
regards
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StracCop, There are many diferences. Most of witch are easily noted by the amount of whines on the BBs
A different FM that takes getting used to that i think is getting better and better
A differnt gunnery that involves different visual cues and loses others IE> cant see hit sprites thry dash
If you fly into a horde your still gonna get gangbanged
If you try to up from a capped base your still going to get vulched.
If you go by yourself to pork all the fuel at a base your only going to get it down to 75%
As for Gameplay well it's going thru some growing pains right now.
IMHO I think it is HTC intention to promote more teamwork IE dont just pork the base take a mission and capture it with bombers to bomb, fighters for support and anti fighter stuff, jabbo's for the sugical strikes like the VH and goons to capture. AND Gv's to kill the GV's that got up.
i think it's just going to take a little bit till the dusts settles and folks get used to the new things and start working together more. I have found that when several players work together you get good fights, can capture bases and get a more emersed sensation in the game..
It's still got some bugs true but they are being ironed out every day.
I think the best thing to do is try it out and if you find a problem don't become part of the problem try and be part of the solution.
BTW I love playing AH2
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Same with Maik, I stopped flying AH1 a long time ago.
IL2/FB was enough to keep me busy. Tried the AH2 betas and found it quite fun.
I don't care for the +/- icons that were added in the last patch or the 2.0 fuel multiplier. Both only really are of "benefit" to Ami planes.
Allies High 2.0?
Just kidding of course...:p
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Totally. This is like the 2nd-3rd week AH2 has been out? People can debate that AH2 should or shouldn't have been released when it did, but guess what, it was and there is no changing that. Everyone realizes the there are many bugs and issues that need to be dealt with. ATM HTC is releasing 1-2 patches a week. They are addressing problems that the players find and are correcting them as necessary. I would'nt exactly agree that quitting at this point is the right thing to do. If you are going to quit after 2-3 weeks of bugs, I wonder why HTC hasnt quit manufacturing this sim since it took them 1-2 years to produce AH2. Well then I guess none of us would be here at all, would we? HTC is doing there best, and I think they are doing a damn good job thus far. My 2 cents.
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Originally posted by DipStick
LOL! Been there... :lol
am there :( :)
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Originally posted by MOIL
Man that is such a load of bs, Fish & others are telling it like it is and your dragging him to your corner of the "your mad for the same reason I am"
Your system this, your system that.........blah blah blah:rolleyes:
Got left in the cold in more ways than one IMO
Should I give up on trying to get my computer upgraded and find another game? Medical bills will keep me from getting an upgrad for at least 3-4 months. I was not trying to get Fish in my corner, I know he was having problems with his computer a few days ago. That's why I said that.
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If you fly into a horde your still gonna get gangbanged.
If you actually WANT to fight, this is your only choice. Ok there are occasional, although of VERY short duration, areas of fun fights. These are usually off a CV before it gets sunk by 50' Lancs or the CV ups so many the field gets vulched. Sometimes there's some between close fields.
If you try to up from a capped base your still going to get vulched.
Alot of times it's the only way to get a chance to fight less than 20 vs 1. Also in less than 10 mins flying time.
Don't get me wrong, the update was nice. I like the new stuff in the game it's the mindset of the players that is screwy. It reminds me of the old days in AW when you have to climb to 25k for 10 mins fly around some more and finally find a fight. Then if you get angles on them they dive to the deck so you can fly around some more (and your about out of fuel in AH2 now) or dive down and try to get that one kill before it's time to RTB.
For me that's not fun. It was ok I guess 5-6 years ago but old now. I would like to see folks grab to 5k and mix it up in between 'close' bases. It's just alot more FUN, that's what I'm here for. Me Levi and Wadke were trying to have some fun the other night. Best the rooks would give us was 20:3. They were all flying timid, keeping their alt and b-n-zing ad-nauseum. Verrry boring.
I hate to say this for the simple reason that I don't have a good suggestion to fix it. I really think closer fields helps, I do think the small maps are too small for 400+. People also think small maps mean closer fields but they don't.
Perks for reset probably doesn't help either. Anyway this should be enough to solicit endless flames, just really bored at work and thought I'd have my say. Flame away and cya up.
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Originally posted by DipStick
I like the new stuff in the game it's the mindset of the players that is screwy.
Flame away and cya up.
Isnt it abit wrong to tell others that they enjoy the game in a wrong way? :D
I do understand what you mean and i agree that it would be more fun if everyone played the game my way.
When i played i was kinda good at spotting the good fights from the maps so i enjoyed the game alot.
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Originally posted by DipStick
To be honest...
Improved:
Graphics
Gunnery
Damage model
Flight Model
Same / Worse:
Gameplay (sucks beyond belief) your choices being:
(a) Get vulched
(b) Fly into a horde of 15-20 timid pilets and get banged slowly by b-n-zzzzzzzzzzzzers
Hehe, guess what, Dipstick? We're in agreement again! Three times in one month! I don't think I can take it! I don't think YOU can take it! :lol
I don't play much in the summer months. AH is a winter game AFAIC. The graphics are better, but that was never a priority for me. I would rather have the old graphics and some more interesting gameplay than superdooper graphics and the same old same old P51/LA7/Spit crap gameplay. I said all along that the gameplay would not change with AH2. I also said that the pattern of gameplay might change because of issues like reduced fuel porkability. Looks like I was right on both counts.
But I LOVE the blow that has been dealt to the dweebiness/gaminess - particularly those guys who would respond to your acquired E advantage by pulling a helicopter job and spraying upwards from 800 yards, a tactic which was often rewarded in AH1, but not AH2. What this means is that a plane like an e-managed 109F can now compete with a turning-burning Spit.
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Give it a try. Why not?
After more than 2 years of constant playing I have taken a break. Some of it has to do with AH2 and some of it has to do with RL. If I really wanted to play I would but I just dont like certain things aobut the game right now. I know they wont be changed so I will have to just adjust to them.
Its like skuzzy said. Its like breaking in a new pair of shoes. I wore then a few weeks back but now my feet hurt so Im going to let them sit in the corner until I think Im ready to give them a try again.
But, for someone just coming into AH2 and not coming directly from Ah1 to AH2 I think you will like it very much. I am not one who likes change all of the time so I miss many things about AH1. I realy would have been happy with AH1 for another year. But Ah2 is a great game and it will take some time to get used to for me.
All in all... I say go for it. :aok
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Originally posted by RTDarksun
I agree, the game is just AH with a graphics facelift...and its not even a good one, more like the dr. f**ked up and tried to cover his mistake. No one can honestly say right at this moment...that they would rather be playing AHII in its current state than playing AH in its last state...again, IMO
Bzzzzt....wrong. The upgrade to AH2 is a welcome change. It will only allow greater things like the TOD arena to come along....not to mention new planes. You are making wild assumptions when you make statements like "nobody would rather be playing it than AH1".
I have noticed a pattern though on the folks complaining about the game "not being finished." They are all relatively new folks who werent here back in the days of AH1 upgrades. Relax....HTC knows what they are doing. Patches and updates are nothing new at the beginning of a release. Maybe if more of you had flown the beta there wouldnt be as many patches and bugs to squash.
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Originally posted by sling322
Bzzzzt....wrong. The upgrade to AH2 is a welcome change. It will only allow greater things like the TOD arena to come along....not to mention new planes. You are making wild assumptions when you make statements like "nobody would rather be playing it than AH1".
I have noticed a pattern though on the folks complaining about the game "not being finished." They are all relatively new folks who werent here back in the days of AH1 upgrades. Relax....HTC knows what they are doing. Patches and updates are nothing new at the beginning of a release. Maybe if more of you had flown the beta there wouldnt be as many patches and bugs to squash.
Very true. Until they started working on AH2 they released patches, upgrades and new planes every now and then so just play and enjoy it. Wish i could have been there to test the beta of AH2 myslef but framerates were at a stable 0 so there was not alot i could do :D
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I'm with Maik.
And I'm running a year & half old amd 1.67 with an elcheapo ati 9000 pro video that cost less than 100$ at the time.
Am I still frustrated with gunnery, yes, often. Then again some sorties I pull it all together & land 3 or 4.
Call me a fanboi if you must.
Its an honorable job & someone has to do it.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Call me a fanboi if you must.
you are not the only one :)
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If gameplay was what turned you off from AHI, I would probably wait a while before trying AHII. The MA is still the MA, with decent fights, if you can find them. We're working on getting Events back up and running, which offer a somewhat different gameplay aspect. Of course the big thing to look forward to is the Tour of Duty arena, but that's a ways off yet.
If I were you, I'd give AH2 some time to Gel before giving it another shot. Better to Maximize your trial that way.
-Sik
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Strac
Why not get a 2 week account and try it and form your own opinion...
IKON
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Originally posted by RTDarksun
No one can honestly say right at this moment...that they would rather be playing AHII in its current state than playing AH in its last state...again, IMO
So it's your opinion that I'm being dishonest when I say that I would much rather play AHII in its current state than be playing AH in its last state? Because I would (and had been in the open beta before AHI was closed).
-Sik
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But I LOVE the blow that has been dealt to the dweebiness/gaminess - particularly those guys who would respond to your acquired E advantage by pulling a helicopter job and spraying upwards from 800 yards, a tactic which was often rewarded in AH1, but not AH2. What this means is that a plane like an e-managed 109F can now compete with a turning-burning Spit.
So VERY true Beet1e!!! The Flight model is way ahead of AH1. The gaminess of AH1 was my only complaint with the turn and never lose E FM. This is all corrected. The historical features of the aircraft here are IMHO as they should be. HTC has done a great job of recreating history. There are a few bugs still to be worked out, and something has to be done with the gameplay/strat. But all in all its a much better game even with the problems.
If your on the fence I will suggest you leave this BBS download the game and give it a shot. It going to become a very intense and fun game. You need to learn the gunnery/aircraft and stay ahead of all these vets that will soon be flocking back to the game after more changes are made.
RHIN0
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Flight model seems very similar to me. A lot of the LW planes seem to perform somewhat better than they did, but I am probably just running into less-skilled opponents.
On the plus side-
GVs. If you liked GVs before, you'll have a ****ing blast in them now. Forests full of rubber trees to hide under, tunnels, bridges, random little hills and valleys for cover. On the down-side Panzer IVs are still Hizooka-fodder, but I'm sure that'll be looked at sooner or later.
Graphics. Graphics are a lot better in my opinion. Sure, you won't see much of the neat little bullets holes (Hizookas still blow entire parts off planes, they don't just put a hole in things), but it is neat to see a hole in the cockpit glass or the wing. If you get a pilot would, blood sprays all over the cockpit, if you get your oil hit oil does. Rather interesting and fun.
Clouds and sun. Ever so much better, in my opinion. Some people complain about the way the sun is modelled... I don't get a headache from looking at it. But it is big enough to "hide" in now, which is cool.
Fuel Porking. It is gone. 75% is as far as a field can be dropped.
On the "down" side
Gameplay. Still stale. Nothing much has changed here. If anything, people have gotten even more timid than they were when you left. Typically, you won't find an enemy that will engage unless he has alt and numbers. TOD may change this, or the game may be to far gone, it is hard to say. And actually, I doubt if HTC even sees a problem with the gameplay, crowds in the MA are bigger than they have ever been, so unless they are all two-weekers, they are making more money than they were this time last year. So you'd probably miss actually fighting, but a lot of "vets" seem to have adjusted well and have taken on timid bore n zooming and ganging as their modis operandi.
Bottom line, in my opinion. If you left because of the stale gameplay, you'll be sick of the game in two weeks or less. But I'd say try it out for a month or so, you won't lose anything except 14.95.
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You wouldn't like it - the place is filled with Euro's, Canadians and Bush Haters - some of them are even pretty good!!!
It's a total scandal and little is being done about.
I suggest you subscribe at once and come and show us what retired American fighting men are all about!!
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If the post you write asking if you should play it takes longer then the download..its not for you.
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Hey Strac hows it going?
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This is a freakin family reunion. Heyas jEEZY. :)
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Originally posted by StracCop
I cancelled my sub about a year ago because
I tired of the mind numbing monotony of
MA gameplay.
That is why there's a Combat Theater. It's a well hidden secret, though.:D
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Not like the CT is any different from the MA, except as a matter of scale.
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It's different in alot of ways. Just not the ways the whiners would have it. :D
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all i can say is AH1 was dead in its tracks for about a year , AH2 will only go forward , i come to the board everyday looking for the latest update thinking that new planes are just around the corner. i havent had a reason to do this in along time
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Originally posted by Urchin
Gameplay. Still stale. Nothing much has changed here. If anything, people have gotten even more timid than they were when you left. Typically, you won't find an enemy that will engage unless he has alt and numbers. So you'd probably miss actually fighting, but a lot of "vets" seem to have adjusted well and have taken on timid bore n zooming and ganging as their modis operandi.
Bottom line, in my opinion. If you left because of the stale gameplay, you'll be sick of the game in two weeks or less.
That's what I'm talkin' about.
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MOIL, if you rather play AH than AH2 something is wrong. Exactly why do you hate AH2 so much? I lefted AH maybe 8 months back came back about 2 months ago. And I am staying because of AH2 is so much better. Playing AH since 2000, AH2 is a really good change imho.
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Sounds to me Moil likes AH2. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
That is why there's a Combat Theater. It's a well hidden secret, though.:D
Hmmm, the last time I flew in there it was a mini MA. It started out evenly with a battle between F6F/F4U and ki61/N1K IIRC. The numbers became imbalanced, and my side - the USN side - became outnumbered 2-1. Last thing I remember was being chased back to base by no fewer than SIX ki61, who then hung around to vulch.
I can find that action in the MA, and have a wider choice of planes.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Hmmm, the last time I flew in there it was a mini MA. It started out evenly with a battle between F6F/F4U and ki61/N1K IIRC. The numbers became imbalanced, and my side - the USN side - became outnumbered 2-1. Last thing I remember was being chased back to base by no fewer than SIX ki61, who then hung around to vulch.
I can find that action in the MA, and have a wider choice of planes.
:lol BINGO! That's 4 times Beet with 4 days to go!
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Hey Xtreme,
Hows things out there in aces high land? I cancelled awile ago, but have been thinking about coming back.--maybe an excuse to buy a new box--that AMD 64 looks sweet.
I checked out the beta for 2 weeks, it looked good, even on my old 9800pro 128. Has the game play gotten any better or is it still a hamster wheel?
Anywho, if Strac comes back I may too.
J
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Originally posted by beet1e
Hmmm, the last time I flew in there it was a mini MA. It started out evenly with a battle between F6F/F4U and ki61/N1K IIRC. The numbers became imbalanced, and my side - the USN side - became outnumbered 2-1. Last thing I remember was being chased back to base by no fewer than SIX ki61, who then hung around to vulch.
I can find that action in the MA, and have a wider choice of planes.
Missing the point entirely, `ol boy. The difference between the CT and MA has never been a "refuge against being picked on." It's exactly what the current placeholder banner reads:
- 2 sides (What's a "Bish", "Rook", "Knight?" Heh)
- Limited planeset (Yes - that means fewer planes to choose from)
- Historical opponents (No Lalas vs Lalas or P-51s vs P-51s)
- Historical terrains (Looking fwd to map upgrades currently ... but you won't see pizza there ... even now)
The Combat Theater isn't the "Dueling Arena." But it isn't a three-sided pizza with chesspieces for toppings, either.
And yeah ... it's a great place for change of pace. But it's not an escape from what's integral in Aces High gameplay. So if someone's source of burnout is:
- Having more than one opponent to deal with at a time ....
- Having to constantly use SA to keep up with the situation ....
- Having to deal with odds that are less than "fair" on a regular basis ....
Then I can see where a break from the game is needed. And if they come back expecting the game to have changed to reflect the elimination of any of the above (in any arena other than the DA) .... then that person's just out of touch with AH's virtual reality entirely.
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Strac, Save yourself the embarassment:rolleyes:
Go protect a cheesesteak:p
flatfoot
you need to be waitin for Tour of duty to start
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Originally posted by MOIL
Man that is such a load of bs, Fish & others are telling it like it is and your dragging him to your corner of the "your mad for the same reason I am"
Your system this, your system that.........blah blah blah:rolleyes:
Got left in the cold in more ways than one IMO
Someone que the violins......
Widewing
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Originally posted by Arlo
Missing the point entirely, `ol boy. The difference between the CT and MA has never been a "refuge against being picked on." It's exactly what the current placeholder banner reads:
- 2 sides (What's a "Bish", "Rook", "Knight?" Heh)
- Limited planeset (Yes - that means fewer planes to choose from)
- Historical opponents (No Lalas vs Lalas or P-51s vs P-51s)
- Historical terrains (Looking fwd to map upgrades currently ... but you won't see pizza there ... even now)
The Combat Theater isn't the "Dueling Arena." But it isn't a three-sided pizza with chesspieces for toppings, either.
And yeah ... it's a great place for change of pace. But it's not an escape from what's integral in Aces High gameplay. So if someone's source of burnout is:
- Having more than one opponent to deal with at a time ....
- Having to constantly use SA to keep up with the situation ....
- Having to deal with odds that are less than "fair" on a regular basis ....
Then I can see where a break from the game is needed. And if they come back expecting the game to have changed to reflect the elimination of any of the above (in any arena other than the DA) .... then that person's just out of touch with AH's virtual reality entirely. [/B]
Week in CT is like a month in MA in terms of experience.
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Originally posted by jEEZY
Hey Strac hows it going?
Am I having flashbacks again? :confused:
Jeezy!!How's it goin bud? Long time .
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jEEZY. I just got an alienware 64 bit based system. You will like. :D I havn't been around AH since AH2 was released, I'll be in there monday. I'd say you should check out AH2 again, been see'in alot of the old members ofr 113th. VGhost just came back as well hehe. Well give me a shout if you decide to come back, cyas soon. (Hopefully) :)
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Week in CT is like a month in MA in terms of experience.
Huh?
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Not really. Usually (like 22 out of 24 hours) the CT is virtually deserted. The other two it is pretty much a mini-MA, perhaps with more emphasis on bombing (which I haven't really figured out).
You won't learn anything there you wouldn't learn just as fast in the MA. Of course, nobody is learning much of anything with regard to fighting in the MA lately.
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It's a mystery why you even still play Aces High, Urch. You've got to be one of the three most miserable people in the game. Hard to put ya'll in numerical order though. The song's the same in three-part harmony. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
It's a mystery why you even still play Aces High, Urch. You've got to be one of the three most miserable people in the game. Hard to put ya'll in numerical order though. The song's the same in three-part harmony. :D
Either way he is still right about the CT.
The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.
In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.
The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.
There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.
The only real difference was in the maps.
You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.
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Originally posted by Wotan
Either way he is still right about the CT.
The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.
In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.
The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.
There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.
The only real difference was in the maps.
You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.
That's what I said, although maybe a slightly shorter version. :lol
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Originally posted by Wotan
Either way he is still right about the CT.
The average players in the aren’t that great. In fact even based on total population there are better "sticks" in the main then in the CT. The CT certainly isn’t a place where you will learn anything more then playing in the main.
In fact with fewer people any lesson learned will take longer in the CT.
The CT could have offered an alternative to main game play. However, it never achieved that and for what ever reason it is just a mini main with fewer players and fewer aircraft choices.
There's gang banging, vulching, base porking, running, furballing, milkrunning, suicide jabo etc... Everything you find in the main except fewer players.
The only real difference was in the maps.
You may prefer the smaller pond but at least be honest about it.
You're one of the trio. :D
I am honest about it. What I'm not is delusional or unrealistic about what Aces High's "potential" is.
The CT is a gameboard just like the MA. The maps, the planeset ... worked up for immersion. A week-long walk-on flexible scenario for those who can't devote themselves to a more regimented one. An option away from pizza, rooks, bish, knights, resets and all that. We seem to agree on most of that. What we don't seem to agree on is whether or not the sky is falling if players fly how they want to ... just like in the MA.
Some players apparently once thought that the CT was supposed to be Aces High's version of Red Baron 3D or something and ran back to the main and told their buddies that it was safe refuge from whatever particular "gamey" tactic was their pet peeve there. And now it's "skills" ... players no got "skills" unless they fly their plane the way you want them to ... or fly WHAT you want them to ... or make sure the numbers balance never gets past the 55/45 mark for even a second ... or .... or ... or ...
Here's something you'll never see posted by Wotan, Urchin or Shane:
"Well I had a blast in Aces High today. I didn't worry about what the other guy flew or how he flew it or even if he was flying a fighter or a bomber or sitting in a gv or a gun. I just had fun. I didn't spend time thinking about how much everyone else sucks and how great I am. I didn't belabor how the game's gone downhill and reminisce about how much better it was back in it's earliest beta days. I even decided to be somewhat sociable and treat some guys to salutes and shoot the watermelon a bit. I even laughed at a joke I really didn't think was funny because everyone else besides me is obviously inbred.
It was the bestest day evar!" :lol
Things are pretty much what we make of them and you're part of the recipe too. But nobody takes constant complaining and criticism seriously, yaknow. :aok
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No, you wouldn't see me post it.
Mostly because it is mindless drivel, which I'm not real big on.
I've actually been having a fair amount of fun in Ah2 since it was released. I've given GV's another chance, and posted about the one thing that I've found irritating since all the way back when I first started playing around with the GVs. I'll call Pyro next weekend and see what happens with it, all I've ever wanted to hear was their side of that particular issue.
I've had a few decent fights in the MA, if early war P-40/F4F vs A6M or 109E vs Spit I comes back around in the CT you'll see me in there like last time. I don't go in there for "immersion", and I doubt most others do to be honest. I go in because I enjoy taking a P-40/F4F and fighting zeros, and I enjoy both sides of the Spit I vs 109E fight.
Most of what you post is crap, pure and simple, Arlo. I've never quite figured out exactly what you have against the folks who flew with JV44 & 3/JG2, but you could probably stand to lose the chip on your shoulder. I don't feel real strongly one way or the other about you, find it curious why you seem to find any post of mine, wotan's, or brady's to be like a red flag to a bull.
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Originally posted by Urchin
No, you wouldn't see me post it.
Mostly because it is mindless drivel, which I'm not real big on.
I've actually been having a fair amount of fun in Ah2 since it was released. I've given GV's another chance, and posted about the one thing that I've found irritating since all the way back when I first started playing around with the GVs. I'll call Pyro next weekend and see what happens with it, all I've ever wanted to hear was their side of that particular issue.
I've had a few decent fights in the MA, if early war P-40/F4F vs A6M or 109E vs Spit I comes back around in the CT you'll see me in there like last time. I don't go in there for "immersion", and I doubt most others do to be honest. I go in because I enjoy taking a P-40/F4F and fighting zeros, and I enjoy both sides of the Spit I vs 109E fight.
Most of what you post is crap, pure and simple, Arlo. I've never quite figured out exactly what you have against the folks who flew with JV44 & 3/JG2, but you could probably stand to lose the chip on your shoulder. I don't feel real strongly one way or the other about you, find it curious why you seem to find any post of mine, wotan's, or brady's to be like a red flag to a bull.
Back off from the crack pipe, youngun and get over the persecution complex. This ain't got nuthin to do with whatever luftiewobble squad you think I'm pickin' on. It sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with Brady. I just flat called it as it is. You and Wotan love to whine and complain about all sorts of things. You certainly dont portray yourselves as anyone who's remotely enjoying the game as much as you claim you do.
There's two whole planeset matchups you like in the CT? Weeeell good for you. You'll still b*i*tch about it the entire time you play it because everyone else is .. this or that or whatever.
Hey .... the CT didn't end up your personal sandbox catering to your wants and desires. That means you either learn to be a lil more flexible and open-minded or you can just keep complaining that the CT didn't end up "the way it was supposed to be."
If you take this all personal-like and don't like the message ... well hell - THAT'S a surprise. But that's just the way it is. I'd love to show you how to get over it and get on with it but it would probably take up too much of my fun time. :D :aok
Don't worry about the other guy. Make your own fun. He is. ;)
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I used to enjoy the CT, with historical matchups instead of P51/LA7/Spit9... :rolleyes:
But the last couple of times I was in there, the MA mentality had taken hold: Vulch, gangbang, steamroller/horde...
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Originally posted by beet1e
I used to enjoy the CT, with historical matchups instead of P51/LA7/Spit9... :rolleyes:
But the last couple of times I was in there, the MA mentality had taken hold: Vulch, gangbang, steamroller/horde...
Well I'm sure if any one player in Aces High could dictate to other players their particular rules of decorum there would still be something someone would find horribly distasteful about it.
I pretty much find the unrealistic futility of such amusing.
There are realistic ways to deal with vulches, gangbangs, steamrolling .... whatever. But they don't involve asking the other player to stop. ;)
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I think you mistake disgust at all the sad pathetic sacks of **** playing the game for distaste for the game itself.
You may very well be one who sees 5 planes after a con and dives in to "help". If that is the case, well, you get your kicks the way you know how. But don't expect me to have any respect for you, or anyone else, that does it. If you think that means I'm "unhappy with the game" because "people won't play the way I want them to", you are mistaken. Like you claim to, I simply call it as I see it.
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But don't expect me to have any respect for you, or anyone else, that does it.
Then there is no way you will ever have respect from someone else.
HiTech
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Originally posted by WilldCrd
If you go by yourself to pork all the fuel at a base your only going to get it down to 75%
As for Gameplay well it's going thru some growing pains right now.
IMHO I think it is HTC intention to promote more teamwork IE dont just pork the base take a mission and capture it with bombers to bomb, fighters for support and anti fighter stuff, jabbo's for the sugical strikes like the VH and goons to capture. AND Gv's to kill the GV's that got up.
i think it's just going to take a little bit till the dusts settles and folks get used to the new things and start working together more. I have found that when several players work together you get good fights, can capture bases and get a more emersed sensation in the game..
It's still got some bugs true but they are being ironed out every day.
I think the best thing to do is try it out and if you find a problem don't become part of the problem try and be part of the solution.
BTW I love playing AH2
=Hord like never before?
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I got a question.....how come the people getting jumped 5 to 1 don't have any wingmen? I mean if I went out alone, I'd expect to get jumped by others who went out as a squad, isn't that wat happened in the war, regardless of what year it was and which planes they were flyin?
Just a thought.
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Originally posted by Urchin
I think you mistake disgust at all the sad pathetic sacks of **** playing the game for distaste for the game itself.
You may very well be one who sees 5 planes after a con and dives in to "help". If that is the case, well, you get your kicks the way you know how. But don't expect me to have any respect for you, or anyone else, that does it. If you think that means I'm "unhappy with the game" because "people won't play the way I want them to", you are mistaken. Like you claim to, I simply call it as I see it.
Hey .... don't get all sensitive because I once again said you complain too much about the silliest things. I don't tease you about often enough for it to rub off that much skin. Unless you're a really slow healer. :D
Would you feel better if I told you I don't really expect you to change and I don't hate you for it? I'd just like to innoculate the community against this from time to time to keep it from catching.
Your call don't neccesarily make it the right one. I got my call too. :aok
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I can live without the respect of folks like that.
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Thats not what I said urchin. I said from anyone.
HiTech
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Respect. Now theres a word.
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Hitech, Urchin. Could it be that there is some missunderstanding between both of you.
I like to add I don't jumping on a con who is already chased by 5 of friendlies already.
regards
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Originally posted by Urchin
You may very well be one who sees 5 planes after a con and dives in to "help". If that is the case, well, you get your kicks the way you know how. But don't expect me to have any respect for you, or anyone else, that does it.
Urch,
I'd have respect for you for not having respect for those that dive in to help the other 5 trying to kill the 1...........if that is what you meant.............:cool:
I'd never saw what one could accomplish doing that except for trying to score a kill, steal a kill, rob a kill, point whoring...shows no respect for/to the 1st 1 or 2 planes that actually engaged the opponent to start with...IMHO....YMMV
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Originally posted by Arlo
There are realistic ways to deal with vulches, gangbangs, steamrolling .... whatever. But they don't involve asking the other player to stop. ;)
:rofl
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I didn't spend time thinking about how much everyone else sucks and how great I am.
:rofl
I'd choke if I ever saw that in text from Shane. but then, he wouldn't be Shane anymore.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
I've been away from AH for almost a year now and I had great hope for AH 2. Unfortunately, after playing it, I can't see much of a difference. The graphics are better, but other than that, looks like the same game to me. I'm very dissapointed to say the least.
Sad to say but it looks like I'm sticking with World War II online. It's not perfect, but it's a hell of alot of fun.
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I pay 15.00 a month for my time on Aces High. They released a game with questionable playability to say the least. Mass disco's, hobbled versions of planes, enemies upping disabled fighters, text and clipboard bugs, they are all part of daily gameplay.
Bugs were being identified and fixed when this program was in the test arena so they did not need to release it in this state.
I just want to know why they are working out bugs on my time? I used to enjoy flying but it's quite discouraging when you shoot down a plane with no one else around, see him crash into the sea, and you get nothing. No kill, No assist, nothing. Maybe it's just me but it's not worth it without the kill. I enjoyed aces high, I cant say the same for being an online ginea pig.
And just for the record, it's just bad tactics to have 5 on 1 when I'm sure that there are far more constructive things you could be doing. I'm sure that enemy came from somwhere, go there maybe? Bomb something, hell do a milk run. Anything.
It's not a matter of decorum, it's just common sense.