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Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 01:12:12 PM
What do you fellas think?

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm)
Title: Re: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on June 25, 2004, 01:17:41 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What do you fellas think?

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm)



SSSHHH! Don't mention that. The truth might be dangerous.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: ra on June 25, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
It depends what the meaning of "linked" is.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 01:23:50 PM
I can define "Linked". Can you define "Is"?
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: AKIron on June 25, 2004, 01:34:31 PM
I think that those who hate Bush (and America in some cases) will completely ignore this (it's not new news afterall) in their single minded condemnation of him (and us).
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Toad on June 25, 2004, 02:50:59 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

I'm not sure this is worth breaking out the lawn chairs, cooler and hibachi.

Like Iron, I don't think very many of Bush haters will show. It's kind of like when Clinton keeps repeating he thinks Bush made the right decision on Iraq. Clinton suddenly becomes "unhearable" when he says that stuff.
Title: Re: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Krusher on June 25, 2004, 03:24:10 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What do you fellas think?

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm)


not to mention this

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20040623.htm


why bother It is simple and plain to see but the "anyone but bush" crowd simply wont believe any of it.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sixpence on June 25, 2004, 04:38:21 PM
I think I mentioned several times of the debate I saw(actually heard) on either the history channel or discovery. In it I believe it was Hillary saying that saddam needed to be addressed and that he posed a threat to peace. She was shouted down and chants of "no blood for oil" rang out. I was surprised because I had never seen that footage before, probably because at the time it would have been bad press for them.

So does this mean Clinton no longer did nothing?
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Red Tail 444 on June 25, 2004, 04:49:01 PM
William Kristol, Chairman


'Nuff said.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: -MZ- on June 25, 2004, 05:10:02 PM
I wonder how much Lexis time it took them to come up with those two examples?

I didn't know until recently that the Washington Times is owned by the wierd Moonie Cult.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Lizking on June 25, 2004, 05:13:44 PM
MZ, even though they may be riding around in their Lexus, using a wireless network, I think they searched the NEXUS data base for the links.  That is, after all, what it is for.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: -MZ- on June 25, 2004, 05:35:08 PM
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Originally posted by Lizking
MZ, even though they may be riding around in their Lexus, using a wireless network, I think they searched the NEXUS data base for the links.  That is, after all, what it is for.


Actually, its LexisNexis (http://www.lexisnexis.com/)
Title: Re: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 05:38:23 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What do you fellas think?


I think you fellas make much ado about Clinton being a liar unless it suits you.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Krusher on June 25, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
surprise, surprise, the usual suspects don't believe it.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 05:57:10 PM
Doesn't matter whether we believe it or not. Clinton is not the president anymore.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 06:12:09 PM
Sandman,

That was pathetic. I've come to expect better retorts from you.

So if George Bush is a Liar and took us to war for no good reason, Clinton would be a liar as well, but lacked the conviction to actually do anything about the threat.

That's how this reads to me. The uber-politician, who is most interested in covering is arnold gets re-elected, but the man who stands by his principles and does something about the problem loses the left wing vote.

They both made the same statements, and both relied on the same basic intelligence community. But one is a liar and the other is the greates president we ever had, according to the left.

There's just something terribly wrong about this to me.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 06:13:59 PM
Quit trying to use Clinton as the yardstick by which you measure Bush.

The buck stops at the Oval.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Gunslinger on June 25, 2004, 06:19:12 PM
its no different than Putin telling Bush that Sadam was planning to attack America.

Its obvious to the librals we need to just sit back and wait to die before we do anything.  Not to mention that Saint Sadam.  He was such a swell guy.  We are such bullies ;)
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 06:21:45 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Its obvious to the librals we need to just sit back and wait to die before we do anything.


Well... you can believe Saddam was a threat to the U.S., but the evidence doesn't support it.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 06:22:03 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Quit trying to use Clinton as the yardstick by which you measure Bush.

The buck stops at the Oval.


Not using a yardstick here.

He was president before Bush and Bush inherited Clinton's Sucesses and Failures.

So why is Bush a Liar and went to war for Haliburton, but Clinton is not when they said the same thing?

I jsut don't understand the uneducated left. You might not be able to answer this Sandman, because you seem much smarter than most Liberals I've talked to.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 06:22:56 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Well... you can believe Saddam was a threat to the U.S., but the evidence doesn't support it.


Apparently, we are not reading the same article.:rolleyes:
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 06:30:13 PM
Okay... so Clinton lied about sex and his administration either lied (or was possibly mistaken) about a link between Al Qaeda and Hussein.

The decision to invade came from the current admin. Right, wrong or otherwise, the ultimate responsibility belongs to the CINC.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 06:35:18 PM
So his ADMINISTRATION lied, but Clinton did not?

Which member of his staff had his hand up ol' Bill's arnold, making his lips move?

Of course, the final burden weighs on GWB. But you give Clinton a pass on it, but hang GWB out to dry for acting in what they both believed would have been our best interests!

How ridiculous is that?

And they were both right. Clinton was right. John Kerry was right. Ted Kennedy was right. Hillary was right. And GWB was right. There were ties between Saddam Hussein and terrorism.

He did represent a grave threat to the US. But the left won't face up to it because it's an election year, and regaining power is more important to them than protecting the United States!
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 06:46:43 PM
That's why he's president.

Responsibility and authority go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.

Blaming the Clinton admin is a weak excuse.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: muckmaw on June 25, 2004, 06:55:27 PM
I am not BLAMING Clinton.

I;m asking why the left loves to scream BUSH LIED and all the other crap they've been programmed to say when they're beloved Former President said the same thing, but No one says a word about it.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Sandman on June 25, 2004, 06:59:16 PM
Has I stated eariler, because it does not matter. Clinton is no longer president.

First rule of leadership... You cannot delegate responsibility.
Title: Re: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: lada on June 25, 2004, 07:00:49 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What do you fellas think?

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm)


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He said he could not take the risk of Iraq's weapons falling into bin Laden's hands.


What weapons are they speaking about.... those very well hidden on my toilet ?


Fact is that nothing what this link contain were never ever confirmed. Its all based on sci-fi inteligency, whitch reported pure BS in past years.


Im wondering that they arent able to find some Iraqi who could confirm that Al-quaida did cooperate with them....


US`s inteligence agency doesnt have any credit from world wide public.

I do not see anything special in that text..... ok well, Clinton had some crappy informations as well, but he may be realized that they could be crappy so he didnt do any BS.

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and you did what? And you did nothing?' Is that a responsible activity on the part of the secretary of defense?"


SofD were lobotomized or he knew a bit more about source of informations that guy who asked.
Title: Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
Post by: Lizking on June 25, 2004, 07:08:29 PM
Doh!