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Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Hirosaki on June 25, 2004, 04:15:53 PM
Doesn't have to be soon... but it would be rather worthwhile to say... fly this one in AH.

http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/ju87g.html

a lovely armament, would make me forget I'm flying one of the slowest planes in the game. :)
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Jasta on June 25, 2004, 04:22:18 PM
i believe this has been brought up already.. check me if im wrong...

Also, if im not correct, there werent many of those 87Gs that saw front line service. Its been discussed...
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 25, 2004, 09:54:58 PM
Quite a few Ju87G models saw extensive action on the Eastern Front as tank busters.  That was the primary tank busting plane the Germans used on the Eastern Front when they converted the Ju-87D-3 into the Ju-87G-1 in spring of '43.

I still think the Ju-87D-5 would be a better choice with its dive bombing capabilities and wing mounted 20mm cannons.  IIRC, it was the last Ju87 variant to be equipped with dive flaps.  You'd still get the benefit of being a tank buster and still retain the ability to dive bomb.



ack-ack
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Virage on June 25, 2004, 10:32:25 PM
I'd like to c the anti armor stuka too.

And can't we have a siren option for the one we have?  Stuka without the siren just ain't the stuka.

make it a hanger option.

pretty pls.
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Urchin on June 26, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
Actually the G could carry either the 37mm underwing gunpods, or bombs.  

It just didn't have any divebrakes.

I'd use the guns anyway :D.
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Wotan on June 26, 2004, 07:10:35 AM
12 rounds, why bother when a p5run or any hizooka planes can easily destroy gvs....
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 26, 2004, 07:39:37 AM
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Originally posted by Wotan
12 rounds, why bother


For the same reason we will likely never have the Ju87G in AH2, because with nearly 150mm penetration with the best ammo it would make every conceivable perk GV almost useless.
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Urchin on June 26, 2004, 08:12:47 AM
Actually it had 24 rounds Wotan, 2 6 round clips per gun.

I've read it in a few books.
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: culero on June 26, 2004, 08:34:54 AM
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Originally posted by Virage
I'd like to c the anti armor stuka too.

And can't we have a siren option for the one we have?  Stuka without the siren just ain't the stuka.

make it a hanger option.

pretty pls.


SECOND THE EMOTION!

I can remember many a time in Air Warrior of myself and others flying Stookas just to make the siren scream :)

culero (hey, sometimes yer bored and want a fun diversion ;) )
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: SELECTOR on June 26, 2004, 12:13:35 PM
this was a last ditch effort to extened the life of the j87.. it was a total flop except for a couple of pilots.. it was so slow the tankers had time to dig a hole for the tank, cook the evening meal and have a shot of vodka before the ju87 made its turn, and usualy by the time it had it was shot down by a lady pilot..

but it would make and interesting addition..
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: RTSigma on June 26, 2004, 02:52:51 PM
I love divebombing in a Stuka here in AH2 against GVs. I recommend if you have IL-2, practice with those Stuka missions as they'll help you cope with the Stuka's problem but it's high points of pinpoint boming.
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 26, 2004, 03:46:52 PM
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Originally posted by Urchin
Actually it had 24 rounds Wotan, 2 6 round clips per gun.

I've read it in a few books.




standard loadout was 6 rounds per gun due to the design of the pods but I'm sure some front line units modified them a little to carry more.



ack-ack
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 26, 2004, 03:48:36 PM
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Originally posted by Virage
I'd like to c the anti armor stuka too.

And can't we have a siren option for the one we have?  Stuka without the siren just ain't the stuka.

make it a hanger option.

pretty pls.



The siren was taken out with the introduction of the D-3 model.  The siren was deemed to no longer have the psychological effect that it once had and removed.


ack-ack
Title: Can we have a new Stuka?
Post by: MetaTron on June 26, 2004, 04:31:03 PM
I'd rather have the P51 version that had dive brakes. P51 is an awesome tank buster.