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Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 05:02:50 PM
Seems great all...what would be real nice is to have visable gunners on the b17s..in each position from a standoff point of view..as to see them when your making that gamble of a gunpass on them...


Or..to make it seem that your in fact not alone in a bomb run...when you look back to your right or left..and see"other" pilots in the drones..as they have done in the ju88...


oh yea..and make the flak have more of a intimidating presence...the puffy kind that is....you know..have the plane shake a lil bit when the shells explode around you...oh man i can dream up a storm  
One more thing..lol


Its silly having "pilots" take a base in AH...you are supposed to load parratroopers in a c47 in a capture attempt ..no?

its a lil funny that the fly boys have grabbed hold of that responcabilty...storming map rooms with 45s and suchAh YES!..i see now...

you know what?..the skys the limmit bro..shreck IT...let them give us option to be lil infantrymen as well..with the dynamics of Call of Duty..and equiped with high caliber bolt action rifles..such as the one you posted on that WW2 trivia thread(Very nice BTW  )


Man can you imagine that?..base defence would be a whole diffrent story...having to actualy "run" to your AC as your field is being pumbled by the oposition..or better yet...having the option to be a parra trooper in a c47..when you capture a field...

With all of that in play..having armor and infantry defending the base as you and your platoon of AH paratroopers try and capture the map room..eh?..taking a base no longer a walk in the park  

AND!..the stuka's pea shooters would have some use now....rake the floor when givving close air support to friendlies on the ground


And!!!...in a b17 for example....Having the abilty to have a full crew...A man for every valid postion where there is a man needed..like the real deal...

(will come up with more...hopeless ideas)
Another!.... holes in the fuselodge...its killing me when my plain gets peppered in every spot BESIDES the planes body..


serously...its killing me when flying back from a sortie with a gaping hole in my canopy having took a 20mm in the sholder...and rifle caliber rounds in every place BUT!..the fuselodge

(all of this was deleted from a different post,then i copied how it was and pasted..to save me the trouble)
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 05:35:54 PM
I think asking for infantry is a bit much as of right now.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 05:41:20 PM
understood.. but still.. you have a fighter based sim...with the objective being to capture bases...somthing a group of fighters alone couldnt manage by them selfs..well in RL...

youre right though.. one can only imagine at this point bro..

as for the future?? who knows...

possibly a much needed spark to the fuel for that fire to burn.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: J_A_B on June 25, 2004, 05:49:34 PM
"I think asking for infantry is a bit much as of right now."


It was actually something that was discussed by HTC as an eventual addition to AH.   Eventually it sort of fell through the cracks though as other items took priority.

J_A_B
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 05:51:34 PM
no kidding?.....
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 05:52:12 PM
:p  raptor...lol
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 05:54:54 PM
I think it would take alot more people than in the AH community to use infantrymen to capture fields. it would take anywhere from 10 to 50 guys to take a field depending upon its defenses. If you have tanks helping that reduces the number as long as VH is down. Then how would you capture the field? climb the stairs on the tower and get in the tower?

Plus there are people wanting to fly, bomb, etc. Would take lots of organization. I cant see it happening soon... maybe by the time AH4 comes out:aok
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Stratocaster on June 25, 2004, 05:58:39 PM
able to have a full crew in ur bomber would be cool
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 05:59:31 PM
I also thought of it as you did raptor....IF the organization factor improves with the advent of Tour of Duty... possibilty of this happening before AH4..:aok

But still..there isnt enough people willing to organize in such a way...Had there been so...It would be a hell of alot of fun....dont you think..??
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 05:59:56 PM
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Originally posted by doolitle
no kidding?.....


True, was talk of submarines, artillery and alot of other stuff that you can find if you google for an interview with HT that was done a year or more ago. Don't remember the spesifics and i may have mixed it up with bbs talk.  Subs would be nice tho.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:02:16 PM
in your sig..."the me410"..that would be a monster of an addition to AH... and subs would be friggin great!!..man this is what i was aiming for..keepem coming people.!
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 06:03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Stratocaster
able to have a full crew in ur bomber would be cool
or if you had someone joined to you, you can use a gun while they are. Have the position they are in show as orange, damaged ones are red, something like that.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 25, 2004, 06:03:13 PM
Subs was a big topic a while back. I heard much talk and people commenting on it. No one came up with a "worthwhile" solution on running them. Some debated using them like task fleets (with waypoints), or making single individual mini-subs that deployed like PT boats from a CV group. I don't think the individual mini-sub idea ever made it to HT. Until someone creates a way of implementing subs into AH. *All eyes on HTC* J/K.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:03:47 PM
in your sig as well: the bristol beaufighter...oh man classic...


the Do17 would be cool..as well as HE111
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
or if you had someone joined to you, you can use a gun while they are. Have the position they are in show as orange, damaged ones are red, something like that.



also in additon to all of this...seperate bomb sight control option...have some one use the norton bomb sight while some one guns...another pilots..that sort of thing...to make the variety in what people speacialize in very diverse...good bombers..good bomber pilots...good gunners..ect
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 06:09:21 PM
I think you could be able to take a sub like a U-boat. not a mini sub. If subs ever do come into the game, maybe we can spread out the destroyers a little bit? The destroyers then automatically drop depth charges when a sub is within  a certain range. A single depth charge wouldnt destroy a sub. But severely damage it and force it to surface, where the ack would eat it alive.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: rpm on June 25, 2004, 06:15:59 PM
I like that idea Raptor!
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:18:40 PM
many is the time where a ww2 pilot(allied) would be shot down..and have to make it back from behind enemylines by way of the french resistance...

Bialing in AcesHigh hasnt been anything but pointless...they should have border patrols (to say in a meager form before upgrade) operate in the same fashion as the convoys do that resuply ack in ABs.....why lets the fight stop when you get shot down...your SA goes far beyond the skys...lol..to the ground where you have to avoid border patrol...

and make capture interesting as well../ prison breaks..LOL..im going to far

im feeling the u-boat idea as well
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 06:20:57 PM
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Originally posted by doolitle
many is the time where a ww2 pilot(allied) would be shot down..and have to make it back from behind enemylines by way of the french resistance...

Bialing in AcesHigh hasnt been anything but pointless...they should have border patrols (to say in a meager form before upgrade) operate in the same fashion as the convoys do that resuply ack in ABs.....why lets the fight stop when you get shot down...your SA goes far beyond the skys...lol..to the ground where you have to avoid border patrol...

and make capture interesting as well../ prision breaks..LOL..im going to far

personally I wouldnt bail, just die so I can get back in the air faster.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:23:02 PM
ofcourse..becuase bailing is pointless so far in AH..had it been more interesting a situation to do so... i bet you would :)
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 06:24:03 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I like that idea Raptor!


yup....i agree.


Also..
There were alot of us here that wanted catalinas etc to pick up bailed pilots for perks etc if i remember correctly.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:24:47 PM
oooo i like that nilsen
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 25, 2004, 06:24:58 PM
I've been wanting a Catalina for a while. Dunno why I just like it.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Raptor on June 25, 2004, 06:26:49 PM
catalina could also be used against subs.. didnt it carry 2 or 4 depth charges?
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 25, 2004, 06:27:54 PM
Who wouldnt want one of these? :D

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/523_1088206028_zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.jpg)
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 06:28:34 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
catalina could also be used against subs.. didnt it carry 2 or 4 depth charges?


2 under each wing so you do the math (too late for me) :p

later in the war they had acusticly guided torpedoes as well
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:28:57 PM
indeed raptor...twas a shipping killer ,the cat
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 06:29:58 PM
we seem to want the same things doolitle so start some lobying and ill support you :D
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:31:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
we seem to want the same things doolitle so start some lobying and ill support you :D




you catch the post on the beaufighter??..i agree :)
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 06:32:55 PM
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Originally posted by doolitle
you catch the post on the beaufighter??..i agree :)


yup! nothing slips by me except things in real life :)
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:34:20 PM
Having it mean somthing to bail succsefuly or not to be captured, other than a message on the buffer..would be nice...extra perks perhaps?..that seems to be the muse of the crowd nowadays
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 25, 2004, 06:37:15 PM
think the idea was that you get a "bailed successfully" even in enemy territory if someone picked you up, and they guy getting you would get perks for it.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:37:24 PM
there also arent enough AC that took place in the BoB exsisting in AH that served under the RAF..the "beaufighter being one example....and the boulton paul being another..in a BoB scenario...it seems to be that the germans having more available aircraft to contend with then they actualy did in RL...Even though in RL they still had more to choose from
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:39:11 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
think the idea was that you get a "bailed successfully" even in enemy territory if someone picked you up, and they guy getting you would get perks for it.



yes ,good call
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 25, 2004, 06:40:48 PM
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Originally posted by doolitle
there also arent enough AC that took place in the BoB exsisting in AH that served under the RAF..the "beaufighter being one example....and the boulton paul being another..in a BoB scenario...it seems to be that the germans having more available aircraft to contend with then they actualy did in RL...Even thought in RL they still had more to choose from


You totally just contradicted yourself. :D
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: doolitle on June 25, 2004, 06:43:49 PM
XJ...what i mean is that...the germans have more an advantage in AC selection than the brittish do in Ah than they did in RL
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: XtrmeJ on June 25, 2004, 06:44:30 PM
There it is, that makes sense. Very true.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: rpm on June 25, 2004, 07:50:02 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
yup! nothing slips by me except things in real life :)

OK, had to wipe the Coke spray off the monitor. :rofl
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: GScholz on June 25, 2004, 08:06:38 PM
It would be cosier with crewmembers in the multi-crewed planes. The downside is having them splattered all over the cabin after being attacked.
Title: Tell me what you think
Post by: Nilsen on June 26, 2004, 03:56:14 AM
lol rpm

real life is just so big, but in the virtual one you can pretty much decide what size you want it to be :D