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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ghosth on June 26, 2004, 08:15:06 AM
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Ya know in June when the gardens growing great. But you have to go out there & spend hours pulling all those little weeds.
AH2 is so much better, they pull themselves out.
This is a good thing IMO. What we have left are people who can stick it out.
Me i plan on being the last one out the door when dale turns out the lights. 15 years from now. Anyone care to join me????
HTC
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Bah Johny come latelys, get to the back of the que.
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Saved me a post Ghost.
After 16 years of PC gaming all this drama is amusing. When you've stayed up until 3:00am manually rearranging the autoexec.bat and config.sys files using himem to try and free that last 5k of low 640 memory in DOS to get Aces of the Pacific to load without a boot disk... well, perhaps some are more suited to the console gaming universe.
AH2 rocks so far, and it will only imrpove.
Charon
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Ghosth..you know I, a soldier for the cause....Im not throwing the towel in anytime soon :)
reguardless of my financial state as of right now :P
BTW...you are aware,correct?
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Originally posted by Charon
Saved me a post Ghost.
After 16 years of PC gaming all this drama is amusing. When you've stayed up until 3:00am manually rearranging the autoexec.bat and config.sys files using himem to try and free that last 5k of low 640 memory in DOS to get Aces of the Pacific to load without a boot disk... well, perhaps some are more suited to the console gaming universe.
AH2 rocks so far, and it will only imrpove.
Charon
Dunno bout you guys but I actually miss some of that.
Setting it up with multiple configurations at boot up you could choose from for whatever game it was you wanted to play.
As frustrating as it was at time I actually had almost as much fun setting up my machine to run a game as I did actually playing it.
Sometimes more LOL
Had a blast setting up for "Strike Commander" which I found after all the air to air rockets were fired simulated human flying habits in a dogfight better then most other sims
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and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Ya know in June when the gardens growing great. But you have to go out there & spend hours pulling all those little weeds.
AH2 is so much better, they pull themselves out.
This is a good thing IMO. What we have left are people who can stick it out.
Me i plan on being the last one out the door when dale turns out the lights. 15 years from now. Anyone care to join me????
HTC
After riding the Kesmai rollcoaster anything HTC does is fine with me, I'll adapt. The nature of these games is change, complacent designers get left in the dust. HTC is doing what it has to do to remain viable and retain its market share long-term. There will be inevitable bumps along the way, but in the end we will have affordable, quality entertainment...Unless EA buys out HTC that is... :eek:
Zazen
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Ahhh... but when they can afford to upgrade enough to play, those little weeds are going putting you in a parachute. ;)
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Dunno bout you guys but I actually miss some of that.
It could be a ***** to work around the limitations with that low 640. Once the memmangers came out that got a lot easier - ended up a QEMM fan myslef.
It was the last OS I really knew how to get dirty with and if you knew it, it was cleaner and easier to work with than any Windows OS. Delete or add hardware an have a problem? A quick look at autoexec. or config would take care of it. No leftover registry crap 20 layers in to worry about. Want to change your directory organization -- just move the apps where you want them to go and change the bat file/menu text to reflect the change. I'm tempted to set up a nice DOS 6.22 box now :)
Charon
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Ya know in June when the gardens growing great. But you have to go out there & spend hours pulling all those little weeds.
AH2 is so much better, they pull themselves out.
This is a good thing IMO. What we have left are people who can stick it out.
Me i plan on being the last one out the door when dale turns out the lights. 15 years from now. Anyone care to join me????
HTC
You plan on being the last on his knees, regardless what happens, and I don't care to join you.
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Originally posted by Lazer
Ahhh... but when they can afford to upgrade enough to play, those little weeds are going putting you in a parachute. ;)
LOL..you mean shrecker
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
Yup I remember that. Old C-64's. Computers sure have come a long way since then.
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Unless EA buys out HTC that is... :eek:
Zazen, wash your mouth out! ;)
Yep, Ghosth, I'm here for the duration! :aok
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never quit since 1.02
:)
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Oh yeah, I was the multi-config king, at one point I think I had 12-15 different ones to boot up in. Falcon 3.0 was the toughest since you needed 621k for some features (I forget what now). QEMM did rock, I still have a floppy (a 5 1/4 no less!) of it in my "archive".
I still have an old 486DX4-100 with DOS 6.22 on it loaded up with all those old games, AOTP, AW 1.13g, Red Baron, Falcon 3.0, Strike Eagle 2, Gunship 2000, and Tornado just for nostalgia's sake.
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Remember booting up with a DOS 2.1 disk in the drive bay?
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I remember my first flightsim box game. 1942 Gold. I messed with it for a couple of months in DOS trying to get it to run on my Amiga. I had upgraded it to a screamer with a meg of ram..
First time it ran I think I played it for 8 hours straight
Never gave up, and have been a flightsim geek ever since.
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My first flightsim: Red Baron on my Packard Bell in 94. 600mb, Pentium, 64k Ram, CD 2x Rom
Then came Aces of the Pacific and Aces Over Europe. What a game! I played those on my PB till it FINALLY died in 2000 of a harddrive failure. It was the only system I could play TIE Fighter on. :(
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Pssssssssssttttt --- > try Weed-B-Gone, I haven't "pulled" a weed since I can remember. :)
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Originally posted by Charon
Saved me a post Ghost.
After 16 years of PC gaming all this drama is amusing. When you've stayed up until 3:00am manually rearranging the autoexec.bat and config.sys files using himem to try and free that last 5k of low 640 memory in DOS to get Aces of the Pacific to load without a boot disk... well, perhaps some are more suited to the console gaming universe.
AH2 rocks so far, and it will only imrpove.
Charon
Good God!!!! I remember that oh too well.Aces over Euroup too and Fighter duel.:)
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
How about "Go Window" and hopeing the vampire didnt get you before the sun set.
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Originally posted by nopoop
I remember my first flightsim box game. 1942 Gold. I messed with it for a couple of months in DOS trying to get it to run on my Amiga. I had upgraded it to a screamer with a meg of ram..
First time it ran I think I played it for 8 hours straight
Never gave up, and have been a flightsim geek ever since.
Ahh good old PAW gold.That was a fun game too.
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I wonder, could Aces Over Europe work on todays systems?
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Originally posted by Hajo
Remember booting up with a DOS 2.1 disk in the drive bay?
Ahaha, pc dweebs :) at 87 we the Amiga dweebs was running
F 15 in two disks. Battle of britain, ROWAN was THE company then:), red baron, so many sims in 1 or 2 disks i forget them.
Also i was playing AW in a local BBS (40 players sat night) with
mouse (Amiga 500 AW was not suporting Joystick) at 1993.
At 1200 bps !!!. (and no lag :))
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
10 a$ = "AHII runs fine!"; a = 0
20 For i = 0 to 5000; Poke(646,a); ?a$; a = a+1;
30 If a > 256 Then a = 0
40 Next i
50 End
Run
:)
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I never player Air Warrior on the hourly instalment plan but I got in on the Free on AOL time zone.I guess as time goes on the community kinda loses the respect we all had to a degree.If you took a pole of everyone in here that played AW to an ammount greater than 1 year,I would think 60% would be a conservitive number.VERY conservitive.
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Noted and followed AH's progress from beta.
Been a subscriber since v1.03
Don't see any reason to leave and they haven't shown an inclination to kick me out, so I'll hang around.
HTC. Thanks for a great game.
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I've been playing Dale and Co. games since WarBirds 1.11. Did some alpha testing in this one. I don't plan on going anywhere. Dale's games have always run on my machines and none of them have been the latest and greatest. Most of the problems people are having I know relate directly to thier machine setup.
Charon, you brought back a lot of fond memories with your post :). Hours spent configuring that 640k to run games taught me a lot about operating a computer. I remember at first messing something up and having to reload everything because I didn't know how to fix it.
Man! Those were the days! (and I'm glad they are gone :) )
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Drediok: Can't place the system, but command seems to strikes a memory: was it a load from tape command?
HiTech
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
Was that a C64? ok - i read the enitire post now - somebody has already answered
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Wheeeeeeeeeeeee Urrrrrrrrggggggggggggggg Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Urrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggg ggg Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg ggggg - 5" floppies, an unattainable zenith.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
Yeah, Those were the days.
The load up for C-64s.
Anyone here remember Q-Link?
Thats what Got me online in the Mid-80s. Iv got Friends coming for the 4th that Iv known since those days, One was even an Alpha Tester for what became AOL.
Here is the History of AOL/Quantum
http://www.corp.aol.com/whoweare/history.html#1988 (http://www.corp.aol.com/whoweare/history.html#1988)
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Saved me a post Ghost.
After 16 years of PC gaming all this drama is amusing. When you've stayed up until 3:00am manually rearranging the autoexec.bat and config.sys files using himem to try and free that last 5k of low 640 memory in DOS to get Aces of the Pacific to load without a boot disk... well, perhaps some are more suited to the console gaming universe.
AH2 rocks so far, and it will only imrpove.
Charon
cool i just bought a copy of Aces of the Pacific off ebay, will take a few days for it to get here so i went to underdogs.org and downloaded it, along with AW3, got AW working but couldnt get aces of the pacific going, i think im gonna have to buy a 486 to play it since it came out in the late 80s. they should release a collector version for later OS.
Btw AW3 rocks, its just like ah just 2d cockpit. good thing i still use my sidewinder 3d pro. :D
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Ya know in June when the gardens growing great. But you have to go out there & spend hours pulling all those little weeds.
AH2 is so much better, they pull themselves out.
This is a good thing IMO. What we have left are people who can stick it out.
Me i plan on being the last one out the door when dale turns out the lights. 15 years from now. Anyone care to join me????
HTC
HEAR HEAR HEAR
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Creamo go soak your cork elsewhere.
As for the rest of you, its obvious that Ripsnorts been giving lessions.
Talk about your bald headed thread hijackers!
However I have to admit I too enjoyed tweaking the heck out of my config.sys & autoexec.bat's.
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You get a free hat at the con ghost, Congrats.
I didn't hijack the thread, but as I am, lemme say, put AH1 icons back, or better yet, just put the AH1 MA back in, and I will send in cash.
You can play AH2 Beta and tweak all your exe.bats, I'll enjoy what I played for 4 years. Pay for it again too.
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Originally posted by Charon
Saved me a post Ghost.
After 16 years of PC gaming all this drama is amusing. When you've stayed up until 3:00am manually rearranging the autoexec.bat and config.sys files using himem to try and free that last 5k of low 640 memory in DOS to get Aces of the Pacific to load without a boot disk... well, perhaps some are more suited to the console gaming universe.
Charon
OMG I though I was alone!!! Still have AOTP archived somewhere...
All the complainers should be forced to make 688 attack sub work dialup in a DOS environment...
I still have a DOS machine just for walking down memory lane once in awhile.. of course the DOS manual is sitting next to it just in case...
IKON
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688 attack sub work dialup in a DOS environment
You dimwits ought to have a CON. You are NOT alone.
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THE game that started it all for me was a sit down coin operated arcade game in the 70s. I tried to find an image on the internet but the only thing that came close was a description of a coin op "sim" that Chicago coin put out in 1975 and it had no image (and I'm not even sure if this is the right one because it seems a bit off):
Description
"You basically had control of a large lever which resembled the joystick on a WWI vintage airplane. A vertically scrolling movie would project in front of you, and you would shoot at it while it was shooting at you. You could move side to side a little and dive and climb. The best way to succeed was to pull up in a climb, see what was coming at you, then dive while aiming your gun. This gave you the most time to line up your shot for the kill!! "
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=4964
The one I remember didn't actually have a "vertically scrolling movie." It had enemy planes on transparencies that were reflected onto the viewing screen and moved around a bit. If you scored a hit it would superimpose an image of an explosion and drop away. I believe I was playing it before 1975 too. My pre-teen days. :lol
(Chicago coin apparently also put out a pinball machine in 75 called "Red Baron." Methinks one or two of their designers had a fixation with Richtofen.)
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Originally posted by Grits
Oh yeah, I was the multi-config king, at one point I think I had 12-15 different ones to boot up in. Falcon 3.0 was the toughest since you needed 621k for some features (I forget what now). QEMM did rock, I still have a floppy (a 5 1/4 no less!) of it in my "archive".
I still have an old 486DX4-100 with DOS 6.22 on it loaded up with all those old games, AOTP, AW 1.13g, Red Baron, Falcon 3.0, Strike Eagle 2, Gunship 2000, and Tornado just for nostalgia's sake.
???... no Fleet Defender?? You suck :) (never did get to try Tornado... how was that?)
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Originally posted by Arlo
THE game that started it all for me was a sit down coin operated arcade game in the 70s. I tried to find an image on the internet but the only thing that came close was a description of a coin op "sim" that Chicago coin put out in 1975 and it had no image (and I'm not even sure if this is the right one because it seems a bit off):
Description
"You basically had control of a large lever which resembled the joystick on a WWI vintage airplane. A vertically scrolling movie would project in front of you, and you would shoot at it while it was shooting at you. You could move side to side a little and dive and climb. The best way to succeed was to pull up in a climb, see what was coming at you, then dive while aiming your gun. This gave you the most time to line up your shot for the kill!! "
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=4964
The one I remember didn't actually have a "vertically scrolling movie." It had enemy planes on transparencies that were reflected onto the viewing screen and moved around a bit. If you scored a hit it would superimpose an image of an explosion and drop away. I believe I was playing it before 1975 too. My pre-teen days. :lol
(Chicago coin apparently also put out a pinball machine in 75 called "Red Baron." Methinks one or two of their designers had a fixation with Richtofen.)
OH!!... I know exactly what your talking about. Geeez louise that was awhile ago lol. I wanted to like that thing but, it kinda sucked. I vaguley remember those things showing up at the fair, never could find one in a Mall kind of arcade.
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Originally posted by Tumor
OH!!... I know exactly what your talking about. Geeez louise that was awhile ago lol. I wanted to like that thing but, it kinda sucked. I vaguley remember those things showing up at the fair, never could find one in a Mall kind of arcade.
Mine was off to one side from the pinball machines at "Harmon's Hambuger Hut." Had me a roll of quarters, I did. Ate me burger while inspecting the beast. Sat down and spent that whole roll of quarters that afternoon holding my first joystick (heads out, fixated juvies!) and popping bad guys. The addiction had started. Damn thing got another roll of quarters from me the following week. The week after that it was gone. The manager said it got broken and he sent it off to get fixed. It never came back. Some other game took it's place.
SOME OTHER GAME!
Mr. Harmon! YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME! I'M HOOKED, DAMMIT! CaN'T yOu SEE?????!!!!!!
Eh .... went back to outdoor fun that got me through school and into the service. Then a guy onbase bought a comode-door 64 and a game called "Mig Alley Ace" and the fever came back.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
LOL, I think i can still type that in my sleep. My 2 commodor monitors are in my kids rooms, those RCA jacks make them great for hooking up the dvd, vcr, or game consol.
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Bought my first 486/66 so I could play Dark Troopers, and X-wing...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Tumor
???... no Fleet Defender?? You suck :) (never did get to try Tornado... how was that?)
Nope, no FLeet Defender, by the time it came out I was firmly in the grip of Air Warrior and didnt even know what box games were out.
Tornado was pretty cool for a box game, nothing like blasting along at 600kts 50ft off the ground.
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Originally posted by nopoop
I remember my first flightsim box game. 1942 Gold.
-snippage-
Never gave up, and have been a flightsim geek ever since.
My first was F15 Strike Eagle, that must have been 1987. "BattleHawks 1942" did not come out until 1988, closely followed by "Their Finest Hour" in 1989. Ahh yes those were the days!
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I actually got to play the very first H2H online flight combat game called Air Fight, sometime around 1977 or so on the PLATO (http://www.thinkofit.com/plato/dwplato.htm) university network
I was 12 or so, and my stepfather was going to graduate school and had a friend in security at, I think, Loyola University Hospital (one of the university hospitals). He snuck me in about a dozen times to play games.
Air Fight was a modern themed (for the 1970s) jet fighter multiplayer game. it featured "planes" (dots that got larger and smaller and I think even had the + or -) with a very limited 3D landscape of a few wire frame mountains with no textures (monochrome as well). No missiles, just guns. It was very exciting launching in that F-104 and seeing that Mig-21 up on the map. Unfortunately, it was virtually unplayable (at least on that connection) since it operated at about 1-2 seconds per frame.
I spent more time playing the Star Trek game Empire, which you took command of a federation, klingon, romulan or orian cruiser, captured planets, fought other ships and eventually had a world reset. My first online kill was a romulan bird of prey I hit with three photon torpedoes (still remember the keyboard commands). 2d environment and it was quick turn based (I think) at the pace of the lag, so the lag didn't have much of an impact, as I remember.
Played a variety of apple games on my roommate’s Apple 2 system in 1986-87 (F-15 of course, a text vampire game, Bismark, and some missile attack boat game that was pretty solid, a good helicopter sim based on the Hughes 500) . Got into PC gaming when I played Interstels "Empire" (different from the PLATO empire) which was like Civ (and pre-dated it) but only the war, and was highly addictive. Then Falcon, and Finest Hour, Red Baron, Civ, Chuck Yeager's...
At the time I didn’t even think I was a geek :)
Charon
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I had the Interstel empire and recently puchased the lastest release of empire "EDIE" http://www.killerbeesoftware.com/
"empire deluxe internet edition"
IKON
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and actually my PC gaming goes back even farther. 20 years now
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
where'd I put my commodore 64? :aok
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I've checked that out KON, but haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. I have "Empire Delux for Windows" (1995 or so) from White Wolf that I play from time to time.
Charon
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Originally posted by Charon
I've checked that out KON, but haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. I have "Empire Delux for Windows" (1995 or so) from White Wolf that I play from time to time.
Charon
With EDIE and latest patches several players remote IP can hookup for the "Wargame of the century" LOL
Has been a lot of fun, better than beating the AI....
IKON
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Originally posted by Charon
It could be a ***** to work around the limitations with that low 640. Once the memmangers came out that got a lot easier - ended up a QEMM fan myslef.
I'm tempted to set up a nice DOS 6.22 box now :)
Charon
I learned to do it manually and had a blast doing it. Sometimes would be at it til the wee hours of the morning trying ot get it just right.
I have an old P100 floating around and Im thinking of doing the same thing.
then again I also have an Old Amiga 2000 both in working condition I've been wanting to reset up also.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Yup I remember that. Old C-64's. Computers sure have come a long way since then.
Yea but at the time the they were great.
I still wish some of that old stuff cheesy (by todays standards) graphics and all were ported over for todays machines.
Games like
"Ninja"
"Summer Games"
"Winter Games"
and one of my alltime Favs "California Games" LOVED Surfing
Spy Vrs Spy.
and on and on and on
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Originally posted by nopoop
I I messed with it for a couple of months in DOS trying to get it to run on my Amiga. I had upgraded it to a screamer with a meg of ram..
First time it ran I think I played it for 8 hours straight
Never gave up, and have been a flightsim geek ever since.
Me too As well as the "Fatter Agnus" chip
Played Falcon, F-16 combat pilot, Feindish freddy.
TV spots football
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Originally posted by quig
10 a$ = "AHII runs fine!"; a = 0
20 For i = 0 to 5000; Poke(646,a); ?a$; a = a+1;
30 If a > 256 Then a = 0
40 Next i
50 End
Run
:)
:rofl
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Originally posted by hitech
Drediok: Can't place the system, but command seems to strikes a memory: was it a load from tape command?
HiTech
No it was the commodore command to load from the 1541 Floppy disk drive.
those were the days when with a hole punch you could knock out a little notch and use both sides of those big ol floppies.
and in those days they really were floppy lmao
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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
My first was F15 Strike Eagle, that must have been 1987. "BattleHawks 1942" did not come out until 1988, closely followed by "Their Finest Hour" in 1989. Ahh yes those were the days!
My first flight sim was "Gunship" on the C64 Even managed to win the MOH on it. No easy task
Also did "Dambusters"
then Came Amiga 200 and "Their Finest hour", Falcon.
F-16 combat pilot and a few others
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>>then Came Amiga 200 and "Their Finest hour", Falcon.
F-16 combat pilot and a few others [/B][/QUOTE] <<
You mean Amiga 500 :) My best was *Aces of the Sky* WWI sim.
What is amazing is that in Amiga we had complete sims in just
1-2 disketes.
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Originally posted by Hades55
>>then Came Amiga 200 and "Their Finest hour", Falcon.
F-16 combat pilot and a few others
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You mean Amiga 500 :) My best was *Aces of the Sky* WWI sim.
What is amazing is that in Amiga we had complete sims in just
1-2 disketes. [/B][/QUOTE]
no. actually I ment the Amiga 2000
Forgot a zero :)
Dont remember Aces of the Sky.
did have one called "Wings" that was pretty cool.
Followed a story line and everything.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Anyone remember
"Load "*",8,1"
Hmmm... that doesn't ring any bells.
But what I CAN remember is my late childhood traumas caused by:
"load error."
and
"syntax error"
Did any of you play "Project Stealth"? (the first microprose stealth fighter game errrr.... sim)
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I learned to do it manually and had a blast doing it. Sometimes would be at it til the wee hours of the morning trying ot get it just right.
Same here, using himem and I believe Loadhi (as the command in config.sys) sometime around, what, DOS 5 or so? It's been a decade or so :) QEMM just made it easier.
[my first "menu" was menu.bat in autoexec with bat files for the programs (A.bat, B.bat)] That was with DOS 3.
I was/am anal to the point that I don't like things like boot disks. Though, I did use a boot manager (system commander) towards the end to boot into windows or various DOS setups.
Charon
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Back on subject...
No, I've already quit and closed my account.
Did I mention that the clouds are realy cool ;).
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Originally posted by jodgi
Did any of you play "Project Stealth"? (the first microprose stealth fighter game errrr.... sim)
Maybe I am not thinking of the same one but Microprose had a stealth fighter game in 1988-89 called "F19" IIRC. It looked NOTHING likt the F117 either :D
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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
Maybe I am not thinking of the same one but Microprose had a stealth fighter game in 1988-89 called "F19" IIRC. It looked NOTHING likt the F117 either :D
I loved that game "F-19". That was my first introduction to flight sims. Before that I played quite a few space sims and my all time favorite was "BattleZone" (hover tanks).
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Project Stealth came a few years before F-19 on the C64, 1986 I believe.
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The first Flight Sim for me was this one on the Commadore that had almost no graphics.
It was All instrument flying at night. all there was, was a black screen with white analog type dials. Then you also recieved a paper map with cooridinates of this large canyon you had to fly thru and line up on the runway and land.
You had no visual references.
First time I saw AW, I believe was in the Mid 80s at GENCON Gaming Convention in Milwaukee. They had a computer hooked up on display and you fly H2H with another guy that wasnt in the same room. This may have been the very original version of AW, Im not really sure.