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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on June 28, 2004, 01:19:12 PM
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Are such wages common in American IT industry?
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/77/342948
I read it in Russian newsgroup. A person who posted it said offered wages are 3-5 times more then usual.
I wonder did they get enough volunteers?...
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Only if there's a chance of getting your head sawed off by some maniac.
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Originally posted by AKWeav
Only if there's a chance of getting your head sawed off by some maniac.
Please check the date the offer was issued.
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1000 US per day. No thats alot of money even for a systems expert.
You realize that means the contract vendor(haliburton) is probably billing the goverment 2000 per day for those postitions?
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How much money would it take for you to go work in Iraq today? Hell... even 6 months ago? The "rebels" were killing engineers from the get-go.
"hazardous duty" does not even begin to cover it.
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A US SECRET clearance IS REQUIRED for ALL positions listed below.
Incumbents must also be able to obtain a US Top Secret clearance.
PLEASE DO NOT APPLY WITHOUT A MINIMUM US SECRET Clearance. YOU MUST
include the statement at the top of any Resume / CV submission OR as
the 1st line in your cover letter:
"I have a CURRENT and VALID Secret or Top Secret US Clearance.
Um...Boroda, I don't think you're going to get the job.
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
A US SECRET clearance IS REQUIRED for ALL positions listed below.
Incumbents must also be able to obtain a US Top Secret clearance.
PLEASE DO NOT APPLY WITHOUT A MINIMUM US SECRET Clearance. YOU MUST
include the statement at the top of any Resume / CV submission OR as
the 1st line in your cover letter:
"I have a CURRENT and VALID Secret or Top Secret US Clearance.
Um...Boroda, I don't think you're going to get the job.
Ravs
I doubt I'll apply :) Only Soviet "Form 3" classified materials access here. And I try my best to avoid any classified materials of any kind.
Does secret clearance add significant sums to your wages in the US?
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Considering the experience they are looking for, US$800-$1200 a day is not unreasonable.
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beyond the secret clearance I would be qualified.. wonder if "Used to have a secret clearance " would count?
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Originally posted by Boroda
I doubt I'll apply :) Only Soviet "Form 3" classified materials access here. And I try my best to avoid any classified materials of any kind.
Does secret clearance add significant sums to your wages in the US?
Need to be a US Cit to receive a clearance, and no there is not a big wage increase with a clearance.
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A buddy of mine, who I fly with on weekends, just retired from US Customs and took a job with a "private" company to fly a "modified" Dash-7 (probably a "private" RC-7) in a middle eastern country (he would not be more specific). His salary for the next year...$11,500/week.
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Originally posted by crowMAW
A buddy of mine, who I fly with on weekends, just retired from US Customs and took a job with a "private" company to fly a "modified" Dash-7 (probably a "private" RC-7) in a middle eastern country (he would not be more specific). His salary for the next year...$11,500/week.
:eek:
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I turned down a position 3 months a go to work on heli's in Iraq. Position compensation was $42,500 a month....
Last person to occupy the position is on the missing rolls from the scuttlebut.
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TS/SBI with SCI Access... But a Clearance isn't worth dieing for.
Keep the money.
:p
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Originally posted by Boroda
I doubt I'll apply :) Only Soviet "Form 3" classified materials access here. And I try my best to avoid any classified materials of any kind.
Does secret clearance add significant sums to your wages in the US?
No, secret clearances add little to ones' salary. Also we don't try to avoid classified information; indeed, we seek it out and expose it. Basically the difference in our two systems of Government is that in the (former) Soviet Union, and every Nation like it, the people fear their Government; in America our Government fears us.
An example is what happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was at a Community Events party and ran into my State Legislator behind the scenes as she was enjoying a private moment with a cigarette.
Her political personna is anti-tobacco, and she asked I keep her "getting caught" private.
Had I been a Soviet citizen, and had I seen a party member engaging in something that might discredit them, I would never be "asked" to keep quiet; indeed, the KGB would show up at my two room State owned cement block apartment I was sharing with my parents, three siblings, five children and eighteen nieces and nephews and drag us all into the woods where we would be shot and buried in a shallow grave.
Seriously, I don't blame you for avoiding classified information. In your position I would too. ;)
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Originally posted by Airhead
No, secret clearances add little to ones' salary. Also we don't try to avoid classified information; indeed, we seek it out and expose it. Basically the difference in our two systems of Government is that in the (former) Soviet Union, and every Nation like it, the people fear their Government; in America our Government fears us.
The main reason for avoiding classified information in Soviet times was that signing a "form" made you stay inside country, with no possibility to go abroad until your clearence expires. In my case - I signed "Form 3" in 1990 it meant nothing. It included all the crap like "not talking to foreigners" but noone cared, I exchanged letters with my American friends and even worked as a guide for students from Netherlands. "Form-2" could be a little worse. My Father had all possible access clearance, and it was expired 5 years after he retired from the Army.
Originally posted by Airhead
An example is what happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was at a Community Events party and ran into my State Legislator behind the scenes as she was enjoying a private moment with a cigarette.
Her political personna is anti-tobacco, and she asked I keep her "getting caught" private.
This is an example of rotten and hypocritical bourgeous political system! :D If only we could have problems like yours! ;)
When I say "classified information" I mean defence. Not political crap, but details about weapon systems, defence plans and data. I had to sign "Form-3" on my second year in college because I studied "conventional warheads", supposed to be a weapon engineer. I also needed clearance to study in a "military department" of my institute, where we studied to became a reserve SAM officers.
Originally posted by Airhead
Had I been a Soviet citizen, and had I seen a party member engaging in something that might discredit them, I would never be "asked" to keep quiet; indeed, the KGB would show up at my two room State owned cement block apartment I was sharing with my parents, three siblings, five children and eighteen nieces and nephews and drag us all into the woods where we would be shot and buried in a shallow grave.
Seriously, I don't blame you for avoiding classified information. In your position I would too. ;)
Beautiful! :rofl Do you have other stories like that? :aok Don't you think you watched too much TV or something?
I find it amazing that intelligent people believe all that propaganda crap about life in USSR.
Now the times have changed, and people who have highest access can leave the country any time. I have friends who work for defence and travel all over the world and even have some additional contracts with Western hi-tech companies. I simply don't like all that classified stuff - it's difficult to work when your materials are all kept in "secret library" and you can't take them home. When I studied one of the worst things was working on a project that I had to draw (3 A1 sheets) only in special rooms in my institute.