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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: snapperhead on June 28, 2004, 09:50:49 PM
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Woh I wish my teacher looked like that when I was 14.
JUNE 28--Meet Debra Lafave. The 23-year-old Florida teacher is facing a host of felony charges for allegedly having sex with a 14-year-old male student. According to investigators, Lafave met the boy at Greco Middle School--where she taught reading--and had sex with him in her classroom, Isuzu SUV, and Tampa-area home. A probable cause affidavit prepared by the Marion County Sheriff's Office details Lafave's alleged involvement with the boy, who was interviewed by cops (as was his cousin, who was present for two of the auto encounters). According to the affidavit--portions of which were redacted by investigators--Lafave told the boy that she was "turned on by the fact that having sexual relations with him was not allowed." Since the incidents occurred in different jurisdictions, Lafave has been named in two separate criminal complaints. As such, she has posed for two booking photos: the below left mug shot was snapped at the Marion County lockup, while the picture at right was taken by Hillsborough County sheriff's deputies.
(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0628042teach1.jpg)
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Hmmm... ya gotta quote the source if you're going to rip and paste... :)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
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who made the complaint to the police in the first place?
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hmmm... ya gotta quote the source if you're going to rip and paste... :)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
was just about to put that up...........thanks for doing the work for me :p
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vort..didn't you nail her a couple years ago?:aok
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Hmmmmm....who can we blame THIS one on?
Hmmmm..............oh, I know!!!
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/demi_moore_2.jpg)
;)
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Originally posted by vorticon
who made the complaint to the police in the first place?
Mother heard rumors and confronted the kid, he told his mom everything. The teach is married.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hmmm... ya gotta quote the source if you're going to rip and paste... :)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html
saw this on 3 diff news outlets tonite. guess the source is right ;)
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Hmmmmm....who can we blame THIS one on?
Hmmmm..............oh, I know!!!
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/demi_moore_2.jpg)
;)
Can't fault AK there... I'd hit it.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Can't fault AK there... I'd hit it.
Well...
DUH!
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Just said on the 11:00 pm News - She could get 30 years if convicted...:eek:
Thorns
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Apparently I missed out on an aweful lot in junior high.
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Oh... and I'd like to take the opportunity to voice my adoration of women from the South. :D
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Oh god, I hope the poor child can find a way to recover from this. Maybe after long years of counseling he'll have moved on beyond the injustice done to him.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Oh... and I'd like to take the opportunity to voice my adoration of women from the South. :D
We grow em nice and naughty down here
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Originally posted by snapperhead
We grow em nice and naughty down here
Florida is NOT the south... more of a growth if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Florida is NOT the south... more of a growth if you ask me.
:lol
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This kid has got to be some kind of a legend or a god among his peers.
"Stand aside, guys. Make way for the MAN."
:D
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Her wedding pictures here
http://www.mjmorningshow.com/morning_DebraPics.html
(http://www.bapg.net/weddingsb/images/couple_01a.jpg)
(http://www.bapg.net/engagements/images/engagement_05.jpg)
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how could this possibly be a crime?
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only in the eyes of the law
I wonder what her Hubby has to say ?
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Originally posted by Thorns
Just said on the 11:00 pm News - She could get 30 years if convicted...:eek:
Thorns
Mary Latourneau only got 7, and she had two kids with a high schooler.
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In this day and age,Jennifer O'neill would do jail-time for what happened in the movie,"The Summer of 42".
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If the statute of limitations hadn't run out, you could bet your prettythang former Oregon Governer Goldschmidt would have had charges brought up against him for doing a 14 year old.
She (Debra) is not in trouble for doing a 14 yr old, she's in trouble for being an idiot.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
how could this possibly be a crime?
Yeah, we need to get rid of those child rape laws, they are so outdated.
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I bet he is trying to figure out how some 14 year old got to hit it and if he ended up with sloppy seconds after young gun got finished...well as Andrew Dice Clay said..."dropped his goo" then got put out at the next block.
I can honestly say that if something like this happened to me I would have a hard time even if the woman was proven not guilty simply because of the stigma that would be associated with her. I bet this chick never gets another teaching job even if she is found not guilty and acquited of the charges.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Yeah, we need to get rid of those child rape laws, they are so outdated.
If a teenager is sexually active with other teenagers, is it rape if he engages in the same activity with adults also?
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I soooo need to go back to skool.
BTW in NZ what she did would be legal. Its only older-male -> younger female/male thats illegal.
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That seems sorta unfair and sexist.
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Originally posted by Engine
Oh god, I hope the poor child can find a way to recover from this. Maybe after long years of counseling he'll have moved on beyond the injustice done to him.
Yeah. However it works both ways. What if the teacher would have been male and the student female? I don't see it more or less a crime.
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well I certainly wasted my school years.
The kid will probably be bragging about this for years while the poor woman will be in jail.
who made the complaint to the police in the first place?
Mother heard rumors and confronted the kid, he told his mom everything. The teach is married.
must have been a crime against the kid's mother then.
Bozon
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Her husband has to feel like a total frikkin tool.
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Originally posted by Toad
That seems sorta unfair and sexist.
No its more that guys think its cool if they shag their teacher and chicks get all mental and hung up on it if a girl shags her teacher.
Notice in the above article it was the MOTHER who dobbed them in. The father was probably patting his son on the back and boasting about it to his workmates :D
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Originally posted by Vulcan
No its more that guys think its cool if they shag their teacher and chicks get all mental and hung up on it if a girl shags her teacher.
No that kind of law would make too much sense. It's the chicks fault, not the teachers.:D
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Christ almighty, what a skank, I've seen better lips on western diamondbacks :lol
She doesn't get into the playoffs as a wildcard, forget the finals...
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She could get 30 years if convicted
The potato deserves it.
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Originally posted by Sandman
If a teenager is sexually active with other teenagers, is it rape if he engages in the same activity with adults also?
No. One does not become a rapist by being raped.
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Jeeezz.
How much jailtime would she have if she'd just shot him?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Florida is NOT the south... more of a growth if you ask me.
HEY!!!
I resemble that growth :)
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"Yeah, we need to get rid of those child rape laws, they are so outdated."
Would it have been ok then if it had been a 23 yr old man and a 14 yr old girl?
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This is part of the reason why I left the teaching profession. As you people so ably demonstrate, once a teacher is accused of a crime, she/he is guilty and her/his life and career are over.
No matter that she has not been convicted of anything. Even if she is aquitted, and is 100% innocent....she is, if you'll excuse the pun, f*cked.
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Originally posted by banana
This is part of the reason why I left the teaching profession. As you people so ably demonstrate, once a teacher is accused of a crime, she/he is guilty and her/his life and career are over.
While I agree that I never take anything a 14 year-old says for granted, read the police report.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
While I agree that I never take anything a 14 year-old says for granted, read the police report.
Mickey, I thought it was politik to allow a jury to decide guilt or innocence?
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, though. You continue to prove to me that I made the right decision to leave teaching so many years ago. A teacher in America is as good as guilty as soon as they are accused. Even if they are innocent.
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Originally posted by Slash27
She could get 30 years if convicted
The potato deserves it.
sure does, on another note whose gonna wipe the permanent smile from the kid's face?
There was a jr. high school teacher when I was in jr. high that was real flirty with many of the boys, hmmmmm. the possibility never occurred to me though.
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not sure if I got this straight...
you guys figure it's ok for an adult woman to have sex with a 14 year old male.
does that mean that it is ok for an adult male to have sex with a 14 year old?
or does it mean that men and women are not equal?
lazs
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Originally posted by banana
Mickey, I thought it was politik to allow a jury to decide guilt or innocence?
I agree with you. But what if you saw a video tape of one of the sexual encounters? Would you still say "Wait until she is convicted" before you allow us to call her a child-molesting potato?
Read the police report. The kids describe her tatoos, shaving habits, undergraments, her apartment. Police bugged her phone and she incriminated herself.
But like I said, you can't always believe what kids say.
http://www.newarkadvocate.com/news/stories/20040624/localnews/712204.html
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Yep, case in point about kids making things up.
Would I believe it if I saw a video? Yes.
Do I believe you can convict before a fair trial has taken place? Nope.
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calll me peculiar but is it a crime if no one is hurt? if they are of consenting ability is there really a rape? Why is prostitution illegal?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
calll me peculiar but is it a crime if no one is hurt? if they are of consenting ability is there really a rape? Why is prostitution illegal?
Most in this country believe that someone is hurt when there is sex between an adult and a child. Prostitution is a different topic.
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Reading this thread I get a serious case of deja vu (not the minid variety tho).
Didn't we do this thread before?...another case, but I recall all the same arguements.
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Originally posted by lazs2
not sure if I got this straight...
you guys figure it's ok for an adult woman to have sex with a 14 year old male.
does that mean that it is ok for an adult male to have sex with a 14 year old?
or does it mean that men and women are not equal?
lazs
Hmmm... the way I see it, the "boy" was probably already sexually active with his peers. Having sex with an adult seems irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hmmm... the way I see it, the "boy" was probably already sexually active with his peers. Having sex with an adult seems irrelevant.
I may have missed something, where did you get the info that this kid was sexually active?
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According to what the radio said this morning the kid said he was a virgin before all this happened. I dont know what bearing that has on the whole situation.
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the woman was mental, or at least she needs to plead that way
I pity her husband and both their families - can't imagine the ragging they are getting
the 14 year old will be kicking himself in his arse for the rest of his life for blabbing...
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Originally posted by Engine
Oh god, I hope the poor child can find a way to recover from this. Maybe after long years of counseling he'll have moved on beyond the injustice done to him.
Any striaght boy that age would not be able to turn it down! :D
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Would any male here,at the ripe age of 14 "Just say no" if the offer had been thrown their way?
Maybe,but I know I'm not one of them.:D
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Wow. It's sexist and a double standard... but that is a fantasy come true for the 14 year old. He just had to run his mouth and FU that jackpot.
She's an idiot, but damn. [Hell, Eleanor Roosevelt would look hot to a horny 14-year old boy, and he gets Hottie Mc Babe throwing him some, damn. WTF didn't that happen to me, Damn!]
Wonder if the hubby was in on it?
Charon
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Originally posted by Sox62
Would any male here,at the ripe age of 14 "Just say no" if the offer had been thrown their way?
Maybe,but I know I'm not one of them.:D
Most here probably couldn't even say no at the age of 41. Still, the mother of that boy has a right and responsibility to protect her son and the law is on her side. Don't like the laws then change 'em. But everyone that believes it's ok for a 14 year old boy to have sex with his teacher better be feel the same way if it were a 14 year old girl instead or they will never be able to justify changing the law.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Most here probably couldn't even say no at the age of 41. Still, the mother of that boy has a right and responsibility to protect her son and the law is on her side. Don't like the laws then change 'em. But everyone that believes it's ok for a 14 year old boy to have sex with his teacher better be feel the same way if it were a 14 year old girl instead or they will never be able to justify changing the law.
I'm going with the state of mind of the individuals involved. Here, it seems it could be a crime but not necessarily. The law itself is often blind when it comes to what it's supposed to serve. Justice.
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To imply that a teacher having sex with a 14 year old is acceptable in any form is pretty odd. Statutory Rape is a crime for a very distinct reason, to prevent adults from taking advantage of the ignorance of youth. Consent and willingness have zero to do with it. It's simply a law to prevent those that should know better from taking advantage of those that don't.
I wonder how many would have "hit it" if they knew she'd be going to prison as a result of it. A 14 year old is not going to consider something like this.
MiniD
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Not sure what to make of this case. Abhorrent to take advantage of a minor, but let's face it, I think he enjoyed it.
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The kid gets some teacher 'tang and the parents most likely will get as good sized pay check.
I think in the long run both him and his parents will have "enjoyed it".
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ok sandie... sooo... in your opinion, it is ok for a male teacher to have sex with a fourteen year old girl if she was allready "sexually active"?
or would you say that men and women are not equal?
lazs
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I was 14 when I lost my virginity, I wished it would have been with her:eek:
:rofl
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but would you want your 14 year old daughter to lose her virginity to her teacher?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
ok sandie... sooo... in your opinion, it is ok for a male teacher to have sex with a fourteen year old girl if she was allready "sexually active"?
or would you say that men and women are not equal?
lazs
IN Hawaii and other states 14 is the age of consent. BUT, a teacher having sex with a student is wrong anyway you look at it...
NO I would not want my daughters teacher boning her no matter what age she is
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lazs, stop beating around the bush (so to speak). You want people to admit that this episode somehow backs up your belief that women are inferior to men. They aren't. Different, yes, inferior no. Clear?
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different? well, ok but.. if they are different then they are not equal... they should be treated differently not equally.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
ok sandie... sooo... in your opinion, it is ok for a male teacher to have sex with a fourteen year old girl if she was allready "sexually active"?
or would you say that men and women are not equal?
lazs
Let's just say that the situation isn't nearly as black and white as the law treats it, IMHO.
On one hand, I have difficulty seeing a fourteen year old as a victim (if they are already sexually active). On the other, regardless of the minor's sexual status, I think it's poor judgement for an adult to take advantage of a minor in this way. I'm just not certain that it should be considered criminal.
I think it's something to look at case by case.
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Originally posted by Mini D
To imply that a teacher having sex with a 14 year old is acceptable in any form is pretty odd. Statutory Rape is a crime for a very distinct reason, to prevent adults from taking advantage of the ignorance of youth. Consent and willingness have zero to do with it. It's simply a law to prevent those that should know better from taking advantage of those that don't.
Well said.
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Originally posted by lazs2
different? well, ok but.. if they are different then they are not equal... they should be treated differently not equally.
lazs
? AMD processors and intel processors are different...but for the most part their equal...its perfectly possible to be different and equal...and perfectly possible to treat them differently and equally at the same time...
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No one will approach my daughter unless she seem mature enought to understand the concequences/responsabilities of having sex.
If I had a boy, it's different, boys are usually sexually active way before girls as it's the only thing that runs in their head as soon as they have their first errection.
In both cases, it's all a matter of education. My dad taught me (as well as my sister) all about sex, how childrens are made and how sexually transmitted diseases are caught.
At least, when the situation presented itself, I knew what to do, and not to do. Without proper guidance, I could have ended up with a 18 year old pregnant girlfriend, that off course, my dad would pay for.
Choosing to scare teens with sex is not what I will teach my kids because when they ormones will kick in, they will do it anyway. And without guidances, they will do it wrong. To each it's own way for raising their kids, but what my dad did protected me from being in trouble, and didn't make my sister a slut either (She became sexually active with her 2 year BF in her 19s).:)
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you know that when that kid is about 18+ he will have a SERIOUS trauma.
He blabbed and lost the chance of being hummered throught all middle and high school.
If i were him, i'd shoot myself. ;)
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sandie..sooo... the whole sex with minors deal is a "grey area" thing that we should take case by case? Is 12 too young if the person is "sexually active"?
How exactly would you word that law? I mean... you wouldn't want to confuse anyone right?
curval... i never used the word inferior.. least not to describe an entire gender or race say. you could however, for example, say that womens upper body strength was inferior to mens. you could not use that to say that they were an inferior gender tho.
They have pluses and minuses... the minuses cause them to be poor voters.
lazs
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Poor upper body strength makes them poor voters?:confused:
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Originally posted by lazs2
sandie..sooo... the whole sex with minors deal is a "grey area" thing that we should take case by case? Is 12 too young if the person is "sexually active"?
How exactly would you word that law? I mean... you wouldn't want to confuse anyone right?
That's not the point.
Statutory rape laws are in place to protect all minors (regardless of sexual status) from adults. The fact that they all enjoy the same protection doesn't mean that they are all necessarily victims, IMHO. Certainly, as the age decreases, the potential for victimization increases.
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Lazs, are you serious?
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This thread is an example of what's wrong with America.
To answer an earlier question:
I would have said no when I was 14. I would say no right NOW even if I wasn't married. It's wrong to sleep with a married person regardless of your age.
That thing most people don't seem to have any more? You know, self-control? I still know what it is. I always have.
I don't drink, I never touched drugs, don't "party", don't smoke and won't sleep around. It's all pointless and catches up with you in the end.
One career de-railed, two families drug through the muck in this case. That's what you get when you have no self-control. The teacher should have known better. The kid also should have known better. They're both stupid.
If the kid "brags" about it and becomes a "hero" in his school, it is only because of people like those in this thread who encourage such behavior instead of comdemning it.
J_A_B
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Jeeze...I want to party with JAB.
not.:p ;)
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Self control in teenagers? I've yet to witness it.
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Originally posted by Mini D
To imply that a teacher having sex with a 14 year old is acceptable in any form is pretty odd. Statutory Rape is a crime for a very distinct reason, to prevent adults from taking advantage of the ignorance of youth. Consent and willingness have zero to do with it. It's simply a law to prevent those that should know better from taking advantage of those that don't.
I wonder how many would have "hit it" if they knew she'd be going to prison as a result of it. A 14 year old is not going to consider something like this.
MiniD
true, thats why it's there. In case of abuse but is this abuse?
but what will the consequences be for all involved? Just pondering while the lines are out..>
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It's not there in case of abuse. That's what normal rape charges are for. Statutory has nothing to do with someone saying "no".
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
It's not there in case of abuse. That's what normal rape charges are for. Statutory has nothing to do with someone saying "no".
MiniD
30 years for consenting sex? It's not that she will get that much but should she get any if it's true?
it seems like a statute designed to make an "example" out of someone as opposed to fixing a problem.
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No reason at all to treat her differently than you would a male teacher doing the same. What if the 14 yr old was gay? Still ok?
She deserves the worst they can give her. She has damaged at least 3 lives counting her own.
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So you're all for pædophilia if it comes from a position of authority?
You all catholics or something?
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Originally posted by Seeker
So you're all for pædophilia if it comes from a position of authority?
Statutory rape and pædophilia aren't the same thing.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
it seems like a statute designed to make an "example" out of someone as opposed to fixing a problem.
I had a grand reply to this all typed out, but then figured I'd just let the lunacy of this speak for itself.
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and you follow the speed limits too eh JAB.....
Laws to control Hormones.....too funny
you cannot control Mother Nature.....90% of teenagers would of banged that teacher....including me
the other 10% are too stupid like Laz or they are gay
30 years....talk about ridiculous
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Laws to control hormones? The teenager was not charged with a crime.
And where the hell are you guys getting "30 years"? From a "could receive up too...." sensationalistic quote in an article?
MiniD
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Originally posted by Sandman
Statutory rape and pædophilia aren't the same thing.
This is true, all though many people choose not to make the distinction.
Pedophelia involves sexual actions with a pre-pubescent child(a child whose sexual functions have not yet matured). You can argue it any way you want, but that's the clinical definition.
Statutory rape is what I would be guilty of if I tagged Hillary Duff.
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"and you follow the speed limits too eh JAB..... "
The vast majority of the time. YES. It would be rather embarrassing for me to get a speeding ticket!
"the other 10% are too stupid like Laz or they are gay "
I would venture to point out that, given the consequences, the 10% would consist of the smart ones. But I know I know, in this day and age in America if you aren't a promiscuous loser, than you "must be gay". I've heard that line before to justify all sorts of irresponsible behavior. Sorry, but it's just a load of BS and you know it.
Like I said....symptom of what is wrong with America.
A lot of people say "Can't win why try". Well....I'll try.
J_A_B
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The kid fkd up his best best biology lessons he could ever had.
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I don't think the woman should do hard time (maybe a year or two in minimum security) but her career as a teacher should be permanently over.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
Statutory rape is what I would be guilty of if I tagged Hillary Duff.
Fortunately, we can think about it without being charged with a crime. :D
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Originally posted by Westy
Would it have been ok then if it had been a 23 yr old man and a 14 yr old girl?
Ahh, I was being sarcastic, I have kids.
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Lazs/MiniD did you masturbate at the age of 14 or less?
If so who did you fantasize about, was it:
- older females?
- females of the same age?
- younger females?
- sheep?
If you fantasized about older females were any of them married?
No one is saying what she did is right, we're just saying we'd like to be the victims of this hideous crime.
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Originally posted by lazs2
different? well, ok but.. if they are different then they are not equal... they should be treated differently not equally.
lazs
The only differences are those you percieve to be there Lazs. As long as society tells its sons to "go out there and get some" while we teach our daughters to "never give it up" we're the ones who cultivate gender inequality.
I never had a son, but if I had I'd like to think I'd give him the same message I gave my daughter. What message did you give YOUR daughter, Lazs? I hardly doubt you told her to go party, knowing you.
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Originally posted by Airhead
As long as society tells its sons to "go out there and get some" while we teach our daughters to "never give it up" we're the ones who cultivate gender inequality.
You say that as if there are no solid evolutionary biology reasons for these things.
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wow some story.
Guess the boy is prolly a local hero, and now he is gonna get her money too :D
Stupid if you ask me, the 14 year old boy first get sex and then he prolly get some money from her too.
If Im not wrong you can arrest and sentence kids at aged 14 to jail if they do a criminal act, but when he have sex with a older women he has been abused by some reason.
weird,weird Its all about the money here I guess.
but ofcourse the woman should never teach again, shes not fit for it.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Lazs/MiniD did you masturbate at the age of 14 or less?
If so who did you fantasize about, was it:
- older females?
- females of the same age?
- younger females?
- sheep?
If you fantasized about older females were any of them married?
No one is saying what she did is right, we're just saying we'd like to be the victims of this hideous crime.
What we fantasize about as a kid is one thing... Note I never said the kid did anything wrong.
What we decide as adults is another...
Would you do it now, knowing the teacher would go to jail as a result of it? As a 14 year old, you wouldn't even think about that. That's why it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a 14 year old... because of all the things they are simply incapable of considering.
MiniD
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" the woman should never teach again, shes not fit for it."
Absolutely. IMO there is something seriously "wrong" with the mind and mental state of a 23 yr old woman who finds a 14 year old boy sexually appealing. She is as dysfunctional and "damaged" as any man who finds a 14 yr old girl a turn on.
"Ahh, I was being sarcastic, I have kids."
My apologies Sixpence. I missed that completely.
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sandie airhead.. the law is there to prevent adults from having sex with minors. if you excuse some and not others then the law would be worthless. pedophiles would use the "gray" area that you agree to. If you feel that 14 is too old to be penalized for then that is one thing but to use the 14 year old standard and then take each situation case by case is dangerous liberal drivel.
curval... perhaps lacking upper body strength is what has formed the female way of thinking leave that for the shrinks ... whatever it is doesn't matter... nuturing criminals and not being criminals themselves and being nesters and more concerned with security over freedom and their dominated place in society all make their vote counterproductive.
lazs
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crap wrong post.
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It's all the fault of the Internet...Al Gore, they are coming for you.
Thorns
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Ya... there is something wrong with that woman.
Why would she pick a 14year old kid. If she's having problems with hubby's chubby.. there's plenty of adult guys that would have helped her out.
This police report says that she told the kid that she's turned on to the taboo of it... this women has NO concept of what consequences are. I bet she's lived a perfect life and got everything she ever wanted and never had to suffer a serious consequence before. Stupid stupid stupid
here's a joke that she should have heard and considered.
This guy is on a cruise and the ship goes down. Amazingly, Monica Bellucci was also on the cruise and they were the only survivors. Stranded on a deserted isle with Monica Bellucci starts having some serious benifits... he's ( let's call him Mosgoo ) hit'n it all the time. this goes on for a few months and the guy starts becoming depressed. He goes to Monica and says "dont get me wrong... i'm having a blast with you on this isle... but I really miss talking to my buddies. Could you pretend that you were a man for a few minutes so I can talk to a guy again?" She agrees and he gets all excited and say "Hey buddy! Guess who i'm **ckin!"
I know thats an old joke but it says volumes... especialy for a 14 year old boy... there was NO WAY that kid wasn't going to tell someone.
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While I abhor what this teacher did... airgaurd had an interesting point. Florida has no problems convicting 14 year olds for murder as adults. Is the State being hypocritical here?
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If she is convicted, then she should have her teaching license revoked permanently.
But jail time? I don't think that she's a threat to society. I'd let her off with probation.
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Originally posted by banana
If she is convicted, then she should have her teaching license revoked permanently.
But jail time? I don't think that she's a threat to society. I'd let her off with probation.
These words of wisdom from the guy who has has a ron jeremy pic. lol
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Apparently I missed out on an aweful lot in junior high.
Lucky 14 yr. old.
Karaya
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Originally posted by midnight Target
While I abhor what this teacher did... airgaurd had an interesting point. Florida has no problems convicting 14 year olds for murder as adults. Is the State being hypocritical here?
Of course they are, hardly headline news anymore.
She'll get off (legally) and all the guys on this BBs who think the victim deserves a medal and a pat on the back can download her Adult DvD wack off to it for all I care.
She's a sexual predator and earned the right to be locked up. You clowns that think that 14 year old's a stud? He's a victim of a crime, you tools.
She'll be on Howard Stern in no time..count on it.
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isn't this the norm in most parts of Europe?
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Sounds like some of you guys have had your brains migrate south.
Hyuck yuck...Sex is so cool...snickergiggle...he's so lucky...wootwoot...it's only natural biology...hawhaw...we all woulda hit it...harhar...self control, what's THAT!?..tee hee
No wonder nearly a third of all Americans have some form of venereal disease.
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Chased the poontang all through HS and college. Wow, now I'm married with a 2.5 yr old son, never had VD, never will. What ever happened to humor? Friggin holier than thou, straight laced people.
Karaya
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Originally posted by banana
This is part of the reason why I left the teaching profession. As you people so ably demonstrate, once a teacher is accused of a crime, she/he is guilty and her/his life and career are over.
No matter that she has not been convicted of anything. Even if she is aquitted, and is 100% innocent....she is, if you'll excuse the pun, f*cked.
How old was she banana? :)
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What makes you think it was a "she", Saw? :D
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the actual age of consent is not the point. If you don't like 14 then say it.
the point here is that most of you see nothing wrong with sex with minors so long as it is a minor male having sex with an adult and.... my guess is that it has to be an adult female before you give your snikering blessing tho.
lazs
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the actual age of consent is not the point. If you don't like 14 then say it.
the point here is that most of you see nothing wrong with sex with minors so long as it is a minor male having sex with an adult and.... my guess is that it has to be an adult female before you give your snikering blessing tho.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
the actual age of consent is not the point. If you don't like 14 then say it.
the point here is that most of you see nothing wrong with sex with minors so long as it is a minor male having sex with an adult and.... my guess is that it has to be an adult female before you give your snikering blessing tho.
lazs
this is a lighter story... thats probably why most folks are having some fun with it. There is something wrong with "abusing" a position of authority to foster an inappropiate relationship however, it will go down as urban legend instead of child abuse to most folks.
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Originally posted by banana
What makes you think it was a "she", Saw? :D
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww wwwwww..... sorry honney :D
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This is small potatoes compared to what happened here in AZ yesterday. a 24 year old man was arrested for repeatedly having sex w/ a 9 year old. He impregnated her.
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There are alot of horny teachers outthere. I just know it.
:aok
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montag,
You're right there. But we don't do it with class.
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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Originally posted by Steve
This is small potatoes compared to what happened here in AZ yesterday. a 24 year old man was arrested for repeatedly having sex w/ a 9 year old. He impregnated her.
That little girl must have been an early bloomer. Didn't know that 9 year olds could get pregnant.
Not arguing, just ignorant.
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Originally posted by Mini D
What we fantasize about as a kid is one thing... Note I never said the kid did anything wrong.
What we decide as adults is another...
Would you do it now, knowing the teacher would go to jail as a result of it? As a 14 year old, you wouldn't even think about that. That's why it's illegal for an adult to have sex with a 14 year old... because of all the things they are simply incapable of considering.
MiniD
Ummm actually what she did is NOT illegal in NZ right now.
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in some places the age of consent is 14 or younger. In Steves example how many of you would excuse the man if it could be proven that she had been sexually active or instituted the sex?
Is 9 too young? should there be laws to protect 9 year olds or should it be a gray area and taken case by case?
lazs
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Outside of mental issues, a 14 year old knows damn well what they are doing. I am IN NO WAY condoning this.
Karaya
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Wow!
Lucky girl!
Right, guys?
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Of course. She scooped a 24 yr old man! That's every pubescent girls dream. I bet she's doing the high five and getting a lot of "you GO girl" from her friends as they play with dolls and baby furniture. Dayamn. She almost had the real thing to show off in show-n-tell at school.
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sooo... is an adult getting a 9 year old girl pregnant right or wrong? How bout 10? maybe 11 is where the "gray area" starts to kick in? 12?
perhaps a male having sex with a 14 year old boy is a "gray area"? 13? 12?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
sooo... is an adult getting a 9 year old girl pregnant right or wrong? How bout 10? maybe 11 is where the "gray area" starts to kick in? 12?
perhaps a male having sex with a 14 year old boy is a "gray area"? 13? 12?
lazs
might want to check your local regs before trying anythingn lazs...:p
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Outside of mental issues, a 14 year old knows damn well what they are doing
Then again, young minds are easy to manipulate. Maybe this 14 year old will grow to feel a betrayal of trust between teacher/student and grow to be unable to develop relationships w/ other adults/women because of this.
Or, maybe this 14 year old will figure he can scope every woman in sight and grow to be a habitual sexual harrasser who cannot keep a job as a result.
Or, maybe he thinks he is in love with the teacher and will become despondent over the "breakup" and he will become depressed and his grades will suffer.... maybe he drops out.
My point is,
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14 year olds are easy to dupe/manipulate, ergo they don't always "know damn well what they are doing"
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This scenario may very well have long term, negative effects on the victim.
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Originally posted by lazs2
... and more concerned with security over freedom and their dominated place in society all make their vote counterproductive.
lazs
Wait, I thought more concern with security over freedom was a rightist thing?
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Originally posted by Steve
Then again, young minds are easy to manipulate. Maybe this 14 year old will grow to feel a betrayal of trust between teacher/student and grow to be unable to develop relationships w/ other adults/women because of this.
Or, maybe this 14 year old will figure he can scope every woman in sight and grow to be a habitual sexual harrasser who cannot keep a job as a result.
Or, maybe he thinks he is in love with the teacher and will become despondent over the "breakup" and he will become depressed and his grades will suffer.... maybe he drops out.
My point is,
1:
14 year olds are easy to dupe/manipulate, ergo they don't always "know damn well what they are doing"
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This scenario may very well have long term, negative effects on the victim.
He is 14. He could have said "No".
Karaya
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Originally posted by Sandman
I have difficulty seeing a fourteen year old as a victim (if they are already sexually active). On the other, regardless of the minor's sexual status, I think it's poor judgement for an adult to take advantage of a minor in this way. I'm just not certain that it should be considered criminal.
Try to remember that when some 40 year old starts boning your 14 year old daughter / niece / granddaughter.:D
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Originally posted by Steve
Then again, young minds are easy to manipulate. Maybe this 14 year old will grow to feel a betrayal of trust between teacher/student and grow to be unable to develop relationships w/ other adults/women because of this.
Or, maybe this 14 year old will figure he can scope every woman in sight and grow to be a habitual sexual harrasser who cannot keep a job as a result.
Or, maybe he thinks he is in love with the teacher and will become despondent over the "breakup" and he will become depressed and his grades will suffer.... maybe he drops out.
My point is,
1:
14 year olds are easy to dupe/manipulate, ergo they don't always "know damn well what they are doing"
2:
This scenario may very well have long term, negative effects on the victim.
Or, maybe this 14 year old is going to have a lot of oppurtunities in life to have his head screwed up (like every other kid) and deal with it... like every other kid.
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not to me hawker. to women it means socialism and big brother making sure that their men don't have any toys that might put out an eye.
lazs