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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on June 29, 2004, 11:10:26 PM
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I dont see a difference in poor black kids or poor white kids wanting to go to college.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124112,00.html
Kerry Pledges Help to Low-Income, Minority Students
Tuesday, June 29, 2004
CHICAGO — Seeking support from minority voters, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (search) pledged Tuesday to expand educational opportunity and see that 1 million more students graduate college during his first five years in office.
Kerry's education plan has a particular emphasis on supporting minority enrollment in college through scholarships, mentoring and tutoring programs and other incentives. He told the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition (search) that although college graduates will earn $900,000 more over their careers, less than a third of all Americans and less than a fifth of black Americans have a four-year degree.
"My friends, we can't rest until all Americans, and I mean all Americans, white and black, rich and poor, people of all colors and all backgrounds, truly have the opportunity they need to make the American dream real," Kerry told the a convention of the civil rights group.
Turning out minority voters is essential if Kerry is going to win the election against President Bush. Blacks voted for Al Gore (search) over George Bush 9-to-1 in 2000, while two-thirds of Hispanics supported Gore. Among whites alone, Bush won 54 percent to 42 percent.
Kerry has been criticized for failing to connect to blacks the way Bill Clinton could. But he roused the largely black audience at the Rainbow-PUSH Coalition convention on Tuesday, frequently straying from his prepared text to toss out lines that would rev up the crowd. In the tradition of the famously long-winded Clinton, he spoke for nearly an hour.
"Don't tell us that it's the best we can do with the last election when 2 million votes weren't even counted," Kerry said, taking up the cry of those who felt disenfranchised when Bush won in 2000.
Jesse Jackson, head of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, introduced Kerry and reminded the audience not just to judge him by his Ivy League pedigree. Yale may have produced Bush and conservative Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas (search), Jackson said, but also Bill and Hillary Clinton (search) as well as Kerry.
"Yale is not all bad," Jackson teased. "Its reputation's being soiled."
Rep. Dick Gephardt (search), D-Mo., a former candidate for the nomination and reportedly a top contender for Kerry's running mate, also was scheduled to speak Tuesday. However, the Kerry campaign said Kerry and Gephardt did not meet during the convention.
Besides his education plan, Kerry promised to make health care affordable for all, make America energy independent, build a strong military, create good paying jobs, enforce trade agreements and fight for the right of workers to organize.
"I'm weary about standing up in front of you because I know there's a cynicism," Kerry said. "I know you're tired of the words. ... I got into this because we were all touched by those early years, by President Kennedy, by Martin Luther King (search), by the dream, by the possibilities of individuals making a difference in the lives of other people."
After his speech in Chicago, Kerry boarded his plane to fly to Phoenix and explain his education plan to the National Council of La Raza (search). Hispanics traditionally are more politically divided and are being targeted by both the Bush and Kerry campaigns.
Kerry's campaign says nearly half of the hike of 1 million college graduates will come from population increases, and he'll achieve the other half by bringing down the cost of education and creating other incentives to bring students to college and keep them there.
Nearly 10 million students are expected to earn bachelor's and associate's degrees over the next five years, according to statistics from the National Center for Education Statistics (search). That means Kerry is promising to oversee a 10 percent increase in people earning degrees.
Kerry has already promised to increase college enrollment by 1.5 million students in five years.
Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry's pledges to increase enrollment and graduation are "empty promises." Schmidt noted that Kerry already has said he'll have to scale back some of his earlier education funding proposals because of the growing deficit.
the "consider the source" additional links
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/29/kerry.education.ap/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5325437/
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IMHO, any form of affirmative action is racist.
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What I can't believe is the tolerance with which people react to Jackson's bigotry.
If his skin color were different, some of the **** that comes out of his mouth would have qualified him as a white supremacist.
F him and all his cronies. If he had any concern regarding the plight of Africans he'd start with the holocaust currently under way in the Sudan.
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Originally posted by Sandman
IMHO, any form of affirmative action is racist.
:aok
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IMHO, any form of affirmative action is racist.
:aok
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
F him and all his cronies. If he had any concern regarding the plight of Africans he'd start with the holocaust currently under way in the Sudan.
Why should he concern himself more with the Sudanese people over his fellow Americans?
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Why should he concern himself more with the Sudanese people over his fellow Americans?
I'm not saying he should have more concern for the Sudanese, I'm saying that if he's really the humanitarian he makes himself out to be, he might make a point of it amidst all his *****ing and moaning.
He did plenty of talking on behalf of Mandella.
I think it's curious that he's silent when there's a problem that doesn't involve white people, per se.
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just another freebie for the average dumbacrat paid for from the backs of the tax paying working class which the majority are Republicans
nothing new here
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I read an article a while ago about universities importing black students from other countries in order to meet their affirmative action quotas. IMHO there is no shortage of funds to send poor American black kids to college so long as they meet the academic requirements. The fact that Kerry and Jackson pretend otherwise is proof of what a couple of craven power-seekers they are, typical Democrats.
ra
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If I were black I would be embarassed by my people being so easily and completely bought and paid for. Republicans freed the slaves.. democrats pander to the worst in em. Republicans also fought the democrats and won civil rights for negroes. Democrats buy em.
lazs
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
What I can't believe is the tolerance with which people react to Jackson's bigotry.
If his skin color were different, some of the **** that comes out of his mouth would have qualified him as a white supremacist.
F him and all his cronies. If he had any concern regarding the plight of Africans he'd start with the holocaust currently under way in the Sudan.
Since the holocaust in southern Sudan is being perpetrated by muslims (The west's pandered to religion) against Christians (the only religion or group of people which is ok to insult, marginalize and even murder) coupled with the fact that they are also black, it becomes a non issue.
Jesse Jackson is a thug, conman and a bagman for the democratic party. He is a Black supremacist plainly and simply stated. His actions and methods show him to be more closely aligned with the nation of islam than any form of Christianity.
Sandman is 100% correct in his statement regarding affirmative action
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lol@lazs. The guy is a gemstone in a bed of gravel :D
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The Democratic creed of "Entitlement" has seriously undermined the economic and educational progress of African-Americans for the last thirty years. It's amazing that their middle class has expanded as much as it has, under the circumstances, since successful "pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps" people such as Colin Powel and Clarence Thomas are vilified by less capable and worthy "minority spokesmen."
Entitlement programs, no matter how noble their intent, create large dependant classes, and their growing financial costs act like a sea-anchor for the economy. The day is coming when government outlays for these programs will make up over 2/3's of the Federal Budget. Given the right incentives, the problems they are designed to solve could be better handled by the private sector.
But there aren't any votes to be garnered from that approach...are there?
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Kerry is a racist
Nothing in that story indicates he's a racist, just a pandering twit like most politicians. Strange, I didn't think you liked the Michael Moore style of presenting an issue.
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Affirmative Action remains a necessary evil in our racist society. Too bad.
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MT,
If it is "necessary" how can it be "evil?"
How do you convince a dependant class, whether it is white, black, hispanic, elderly or whatever, that it is no longer "necessary?"
What type of "litmus test" will be used to determine when racism no longer exists, and therefore these entitlement programs can be done away with.
It's almost impossible to end them once they're in place. The only event that could terminate them would be the bankruptcy of the Federal Government. There is little doubt that Social Security will go belly up within the next 30 years. My two sons will pay through the snoot to keep it afloat but will probably never draw a dime of it in their old age.
That's because these programs, despite their avowed purpose, depend on their support on two of the oldest human emotions...envy and greed. As a result, these programs are inevitably corrupted, and subvert the very purposes for which they were created.
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People who believe that AA is solely based on race, do nothing more than illustrate a complete failure to comprehend the complexity of the issue.
White women are by far the greatest benefactors of AA.
People that think AA works against them, use that as an excuse when someone else is hired over them. chances are, they would not have been hired / accepted in the first place.
The michigan case is a perfect example. Students got pissed at 6 students of color? There were scores of white kids with similar scores as the blask students, yet no one made an issue of them...
interesting...
yeah, keep fannig the flames. Instead of thinking the world is against you just work harder next time, and stop blaming others for your shortcomings.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Affirmative Action remains a necessary evil in our racist society. Too bad.
that's why qwami didn't win, Trump is a racist!! :)
I think you can't see the forest for the trees brother
maybe at bubba's auto garage in Plant City color is an issue, not at any professional level position at any decent size city
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
yeah, keep fannig the flames. Instead of thinking the world is against you just work harder next time, and stop blaming others for your shortcomings.
could be a quote for the removal of AA - thanks RT
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Affirmative Action remains a necessary evil in our racist society. Too bad.
Damn, and I thought you were a pretty bright guy!
I dont care what color your skin is, sexual preference, creed and so forth...let the best applicants performance decide.
Affirmative Action is a more politically correct form of the word "prejudice".
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
People that think AA works against them, use that as an excuse when someone else is hired over them. chances are, they would not have been hired / accepted in the first place.
"Think"? I'm a white male, tell me exactly how AA does not work against me.
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Originally posted by SOB
"Think"? I'm a white male, tell me exactly how AA does not work against me.
yah know changing sex is easier than changing skin color ?
think about it :D
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
F him and all his cronies. If he had any concern regarding the plight of Africans he'd start with the holocaust currently under way in the Sudan.
You mean the one begun by a Canadian oil company?
http://www.iabolish.com/news/global/2002/talisman03-05-02.htm
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"People that think AA works against them, use that as an excuse when someone else is hired over them. chances are, they would not have been hired / accepted in the first place.
The michigan case is a perfect example. Students got pissed at 6 students of color? There were scores of white kids with similar scores as the blask students, yet no one made an issue of them... "
I live in Michigan. Yes, michigan has already changed their "recruiting standards". I know, I live in the state. Affirmative Action is assisting "racial suppression" whilst beating down other doors. You obviously have never taken the Civil Service exam? +10 points for being Black, add +5 if you're a black woman, a paltry 5 points for being a woman. So tell me again Red Top?
I suppose you agree with the proposed settlement for paying out "slave descendants"? I heard the figure $5,000 per descendant, including deceased members.
Affirmative Active is a perfect example Reverse Discriminatory applications.
Karaya
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Originally posted by straffo
yah know changing sex is easier than changing skin color ?
think about it :D
LOL, thanks Straffo, at least I know the post-op French contingent are looking out for me! How did your operation go...would you recommend your doctor or should I look elsewhere?
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Originally posted by SOB
LOL, thanks Straffo, at least I know the post-op French contingent are looking out for me! How did your operation go...would you recommend your doctor or should I look elsewhere?
eeerrrr ... what about asking Saw ?
As he is not posting I think he his recovering from surgery :)
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Originally posted by SOB
Nothing in that story indicates he's a racist, just a pandering twit like most politicians. Strange, I didn't think you liked the Michael Moore style of presenting an issue.
I figured I'd drop the line and see what would bite. Looks like one of those days were you dont catch anything over the weight limit.
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Hey Gunslinger YOU are a racist.
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Originally posted by Nash
Hey Gunslinger YOU are a racist.
Nope.....I hate everyone equally! :aok
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Dang... can't even fish the fishermen nowadays.
:)
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looked at the bait.....took a sniff....opened wide.....decided I wasnt hungry :)