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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on July 03, 2004, 05:35:22 PM
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Just had a quick question for our norther neighbors. Bowling for Columbine was just on TV as I was flipping channels. It was at the point were Moore was asking people if they lock the doors on their house.
Is this true. Do Canadians really not lock their doors?
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What leave them unlocked and end up getting mauled by a mountain lion?
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Theres a bowling for Canada?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Is this true. Do Canadians really not lock their doors?
Most people I know don't during the day and do at night. Just like everywhere else I'm sure.
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Like anywhere, it depends where you are I guess. In Vancouver? No way. Here in Calgary it's pretty much unneccessary but I still do it out of habit. I'm sure there are areas in the states where folks don't lock their doors.
My theory is that 20-30 years ago most people weren't very hung up on locking their doors. When property crime started to hit it was a wake-up call of sorts and the doors became locked. In areas not really affected by property crime, the doors remain as they were 20-30 years ago.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Most people I know don't during the day and do at night. Just like everywhere else I'm sure.
Ditto......
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My buds in central Kansas never lock their doors and leave their keys in the ignition.
I'm about 50/50 on locking doors where I live. Of course, the dogs are probably better than locks.
It just depends on what's going on in your neighborhood.
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KEWL thanks for the INFO.
I live on a military installation and my doors stay unlocked during the day but deadbolted at night.
I've even left my jeep keys in the ignition several times by accident but thankfully it was there in the morning.
I dont want to get in an argument here but in the show he lets it seem that Canada is the safest place in the world that you dont even need to lock your doors.
I realize crime there is probably alot lower but figured its just like the suberbs or rural communities here.
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well most U.S. cities are pretty much bigger then what we got here.....
plus you gots many more people then us.....
we got more territory but less people.....
your quote....
I realize crime there is probably alot lower but figured its just like the suberbs or rural communities here.
thats dead on....
also its pretty much common knowledge that you do have more guns then us per person....
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Originally posted by SLO
also its pretty much common knowledge that you do have more guns then us per person....
Wich I dont have a problem with one bit :aok
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my brother lives in vancouver and it is a cesspool. I can't imagine not having a gun in the house there for the zombies.
lazs
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I live in GA, I dont lock my doors or take the keys out of my truck.
My wife comes behind me and locks the doors around midnight,
saying someone might come in and get my lil girl. I have a great
dane in the yard tied to a concrete block. she CAN tow that block wherever she wants to go, if she wants to. I also have a small ratdog who guards the inside of the hootch ;->
Its pretty safe around here.
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Originally posted by lazs2
my brother lives in vancouver and it is a cesspool.
lazs
aye
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Leaving doors unlocked is IMO retarded, unless you have other safety mechanics, like your granpha sitting at the porch with his shotgun.
It could be also because your doorlocks are from 2000bc and require attention to get them locked.
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why is vancouver a cesspool? it has a "racialy diverse" population that doesn't even speak english so being all white like most of canada can't be the problem... It has very strict handgun laws so that can't be the problem and... drugs are readily available and cheap so that can't be the problem... It is, like all big cities... liberal socialist so that can't be the problem..
People who live in big cities should not be allowed to vote on anything that affects people who don't.
lazs
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Here's a sad story from the US. I moved into a nice neighborhood 15 years ago. It was so safe I used to leave my car parked with the windows rolled down, and leave my front door open to let fresh air in through the screen door at night. Then it went to hell after the government started subsidizing rent in the area. By the time I moved out I was locking my front door even during the daytime when I was home, and I had a loaded shotgun leaning against the livingroom wall.
There are plenty of places in the US where it is safe to leave your doors unlocked. Just hope the government doesn't find out about them.
ra
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Lazs - what a confusing bunch of sentences....
But no, it's drugs.
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yep ra... the section 8 zombies have made me lock my doors too. they live in houses that people who work for a living can't afford to rent. I was told that if I rented to them, joined the "program" I would be paid my rent by the program like clockwork and could rais rents any reasonable amount (some have raised rents 50% over mine) I was told that any damage (there is allways massive damage) will be cheerfuly paid for by the "program".
I told em to shove it.
lazs
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I told em to shove it.
Way to go. I could have taken the same offer, but I chose to sell the house instead. The buyer will probably end up renting it out to the program. I'm just glad to be out of that failed socialist experiment of a neighborhood.
It was a real heartbreak to watch some of the struggling familiies forced to move out of the neighborhood for their kids' sake. All they had was a decent house in a decent neighborhood, and the government took that away in the name of fairness. No wonder the Dem pols are having a tough time holding on the their jobs.
ra
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so nash... you are saying that all of vancouvers problems are drug related? If so... I would think that people in vancouver would need to be able to defend themselves against the zombies no?
Druggies are criminals in the purest sense.. they will do $1000 dollars (real dollars not canadian money) to your property to get $10 for drugs... they will commit violence against you and each other and... minorities see drugs as a way to get ahead... they form gangs.
How would you solve all this?
I don't claim to be able to solve it but... I would like the ability to defend myself against it until someone comes up with an answer.
and... I certainly have no interest in living in a big city.
lazs
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Igloos have doors that lock?
What is the point? You could just melt a hole with a lighter and reach through and unlock it.
:p
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep ra... the section 8 zombies have made me lock my doors too. they live in houses that people who work for a living can't afford to rent. I was told that if I rented to them, joined the "program" I would be paid my rent by the program like clockwork and could rais rents any reasonable amount (some have raised rents 50% over mine) I was told that any damage (there is allways massive damage) will be cheerfuly paid for by the "program".
I told em to shove it.
lazs
Section 8 rents ruined my home town, but the people who participate are getting wealthy buying up property and either converting to ALF or section 8 rents. We moved out to the everglades about ten years ago. you can leave your doors unlocked and the keys in your car.
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Originally posted by Curval
Igloos have doors that lock?
What is the point? You could just melt a hole with a lighter and reach through and unlock it.
:p
I never lock my igloo...mind you, I have one of those machines that throws baseballs aimed at the entrance.... but I don't use baseballs; I have a stockpile of icey snowballs to pummell any intruder. So far, it's been very effective.
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Was a pretty assinine thing about Bowling for Columbine in my opinion. Not the only one. When we leave our house we lock it. When we go to sleep we lock it. The only time its locked when we are there is by mistake.
I cant imagine it is any different in a US town of the same size(300k) and the same demographic.
But moore of course doenst want to talk about that.
That is the worst thing about Columbine..it discredits F 9/11. People have seen the one and knew it was dishonest, so who can blame them for not seeing the new one to decide if it is dishonest.
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Originally posted by Pongo
That is the worst thing about Columbine..it discredits F 9/11. People have seen the one and knew it was dishonest, so who can blame them for not seeing the new one to decide if it is dishonest.
Good point.
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Originally posted by Pongo
I cant imagine it is any different in a US town of the same size(300k) and the same demographic.
But moore of course doenst want to talk about that.
Moore wasn't talking about some small town...he came to TO and opened doors...this is a multi-cultural city of between 4-5 million people (we've had concerts here bigger than 300k people)
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So whats the stat then? what % of Torontonains keep thier doors unlocked when thier in the house?
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep ra... the section 8 zombies have made me lock my doors too. they live in houses that people who work for a living can't afford to rent.
lazs
Are you not a city worker?
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Most people I know don't during the day and do at night. Just like everywhere else I'm sure.
Do that around here near Detroit. Heck, in July of 2001, I cryed until my stomach ached, had to be 15 minutes of uninterrupted laughter at work. What was so funny? Three guys jacked up a garage near Detroit City Airport. Why, to steal the Aluminum siding, they had it LITERALLYon a Pickup truck bed, but it got caught on the curb and they left it in the middle of the street. (I kept the link for ages and it now gone).
Found a link after posting, no pics on this one.
http://www.detnews.com/2001/metro/0107/23/c07-252165.htm
I lock my watermelon ALL OF THE TIME. Even up North, just out of shear habit.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Pongo
So whats the stat then? what % of Torontonains keep thier doors unlocked when thier in the house?
hmmm...pongo I don't know; I wouldn't even know what criteria to use to even make a guess
I can't ever remember anyone ever locking their door behind me when I visisted them. The exception may be if someone lives in a condo. It's very easy to get off on the wrong floor and walk into the wrong unit. I've done that and had it happen to me.
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Never lock the door when we're home, of course we lock it when we're gone. I still have a milkman who opens the door and leaves the milk inside.
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There are more people living in the state of california then live in all of canada.
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Wow interesting Yeager! The crime in California tops Canada's crime. Was this just an interesting fact you thought you'd point out or do you care to add some relevance to it?
I live in a city of a million. Slo lives in a city of 3 million plus. Xtoronto's city is bigger. We shared (as asked) what it's like for us.
How big is your city and do you lock your doors? Answer that one and congrats... you may just be venturing back on topic.
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I will lock my door on a hot day when my thirsty pals are near and the fridge is beerfull........
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The population of Canada is 31,852,416
The population of L.A County is 10,047,300
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The population of Botswana is 1,561,973.
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HARTMAN
Jesus H. Christ! Private Pyle, why is your footlocker unlocked?
PYLE
Sir, I don't know, sir!
HARTMAN
Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that, don't you?
PYLE
Sir, yes, sir!
HARTMAN
If it wasn't for ********s like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
PYLE
Sir, no, sir!
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The crime rate in vancouver is 20 times higher than in dixon California.
lazs
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That all?
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per capita.
lazs
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Dixon has a population of 16,000.
Vancouver has a population of approximatley 2 million.
Vancouver has well in excess of 20 times the population of Dixon.
That per capita figure is totally skewed lazs. It is meaningless.
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I think vancouver leads the world in stolen cars alone... nevermind the rest of it. Woulda thought higher.
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huh? can't follow you curval unless you are saying that small cities have less per capita crime than big ones or.. large population density areas have more per capita crime than low density ones.
If so.. we agree. The more people canada gets the worse it's crime problem... the more immigration the worse it gets.. the bigger the drug use the worse it gets.
lazs
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Originally posted by Nash
I think vancouver leads the world in stolen cars alone... nevermind the rest of it. Woulda thought higher.
Come to Detroit and say that, They'll carjack you just for chit's n giggles.
Also, in 2002, 1,246,096 cars were stolen in the US. I doubt a Canadian city leads the world.
Karaya
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as lazs said, per capita.
Again, that's just what I heard. If I get a free sec at work I'll see what google comes up with.
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While we're on useless stats...
chicago had more murders last year than the whole country of canada.
.....Mtl has the highest stolen car rate in Can.