Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 01:36:00 AM

Title: Movie "AH2" for HTC and Community
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 01:36:00 AM
My first moive with AH2... Play it with the music cranked....

*disclaimer* it's a big file... 65mb

http://www.colstream.neptune.com

Tell me what you think...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Box1 on July 04, 2004, 03:29:40 AM
Very cool.....a large part of that was better than the AH commercial on TV.....nice job:) :)
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: 6GunUSMC on July 04, 2004, 04:11:23 AM
Excellent!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Citabria on July 04, 2004, 06:03:19 AM
can't help but notice how much the water in ah2 looks liek a blue shag carpet haha.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Mugzeee on July 04, 2004, 09:17:02 AM
WOW...that was very cool indeed. It was also as telling as it was cool.
First let me say Great Work.
A few thoughts/findings.
 #1 The film is a tad out of focus for me...It is noticeable in Full Screen mode as well as in Normal view mode. Not greatly...just enough to be kind of annoying. Maybe a setting on my end will change it. I will mess around with it a bit. I did change the res on my monitor a few times. But i will check a few more things out.
#2 I was expecting to see the Gear Raising Sequence of the F4U after clearing the deck of the Flat Top. In the transition from the takeoff clip to the climb out clip the gear rising was lost i guess?
#3 The music selection could be re-considered.
While i have no problem with it personally, < 43 year old Musician that appreciates almost any style of music>the selection might be a little.....well lets just say that it only appeals to a select group of people. There are OLD PPL that play AH2 too! :D
You might consider something that will appeal to a larger audience. Of course i am looking at it from the marketing standpoint.
Now for the part that was telling of AH2.
#1 the tires on every plane on the runway are submerged into the concrete nearly to the rim.
#2 the damage model/sequence of AH2 is revealed here, and i might say...it is lacking. One example is the damage taken by the P51 i think it was. The hit sprites are the same size/amplitude no matter where the hits are recorded. Also when the left wing fuel tank is obviously hit there is no explosion/plum/or any defining sequence that differentiates a hit producing a hole in the plane vs a hit that destroys the fuel tank. Just looks cheesy to me. Ever see the fuel tank damage sequence of other ww11 sims?
There is one sim that has a very cool fuel tank damage model. When a wing tank is hit it usually has a small plum of flames and smoke and an audible explosion sound followed by the wing bursting into flames and slowly burning off the plane till it finally separates/melts off the plane followed by the plane spinning to the ground. And a nice little explosion is audible when the plane strikes the ground too. Now this is true emersion and adds to the joy of a game.
It just seems a little less than i was expecting in relation to other Sims i have played recently. Cant wait for the next film. Overall it was very cool. Thanks for sharing.  Salute
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Morpheus on July 04, 2004, 09:50:46 AM
LMAO MugZ... Too much!

Love the K0rN!

One of my fav songs :)

Finally someone put some kick prettythang tunes to some good film! wtfg man!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: nopoop on July 04, 2004, 11:51:12 AM
Your a master, great stuff !!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: 6GunUSMC on July 04, 2004, 12:23:49 PM
I am 40 and I thought the music was GREAT to set the tone!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Mugzeee on July 04, 2004, 12:52:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 6GunUSMC
I am 40 and I thought the music was GREAT to set the tone!

I thought the music was fine too. Just making an observation. Thought maybe  the movie producer/director/ whatever. Would like it better if an even larger audience would shoot him the Kudos. Heck maybe someday he could even make a movie that HTC would use for a television add.How awesome would that be? :)  But maybe he dont really give a rats butt about it? I dont know. Now about the Focus? Anyone else? Did it look a bit outa focus? Fuzzy?
Kudos Stream.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 01:13:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mugzeee
WOW...that was very cool indeed. It was also as telling as it was cool.
First let me say Great Work.
A few thoughts/findings.
 #1 The film is a tad out of focus for me...It is noticeable in Full Screen mode as well as in Normal view mode. Not greatly...just enough to be kind of annoying. Maybe a setting on my end will change it. I will mess around with it a bit. I did change the res on my monitor a few times. But i will check a few more things out.
#2 I was expecting to see the Gear Raising Sequence of the F4U after clearing the deck of the Flat Top. In the transition from the takeoff clip to the climb out clip the gear rising was lost i guess?
#3 The music selection could be re-considered.
While i have no problem with it personally, < 43 year old Musician that appreciates almost any style of music>the selection might be a little.....well lets just say that it only appeals to a select group of people. There are OLD PPL that play AH2 too! :D
You might consider something that will appeal to a larger audience. Of course i am looking at it from the marketing standpoint.


#1.  The file that I made it was 65mb the quality was the best I have ever done.... I think it might have been the net that was causing it to be a little out of focus.... some sences were done with a blur to it... just for an effect...the spit and the A6m5.... From what I have heard was that neptune isn't the greatest means of hosting... but because of the file size, it's the only hosting site I can find...  I am running a 256mb 9800xt , the film viewer was playing it a little choppy, that is why there were a couple breaks in it...

#2 The F4u scene,  I wanted to show the launching off the carrier from a full stop... becuase of the break in the music I used that as a transition point... the gear did come up... but it would have been out of place if I had made the transition later...

#3 The music I selected was to be a driving something that would push the the vid along... I was going to use something else but I felt that it was the best I could use with the effect I wanted to portray.... I will be making these from time to time... there will be other music to them...  

Thanks for the honest input... that is the only way I can get better...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 01:18:00 PM
I hope HiTech and those guys take a look at it.....
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Berra85 on July 04, 2004, 02:05:12 PM
I cant seem to watch it, it says i dont have WMP9 when i clearly do :confused:

:EDIT: just used IE instead of FireFox and worked fine.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Embark on July 04, 2004, 02:32:57 PM
I like the Historical Gunplay one. But then again thats IL2 FB.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Morpheus on July 04, 2004, 03:52:41 PM
what programs did you use to create this movie stream?
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Mugzeee on July 04, 2004, 04:48:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by o0Stream140o
I hope HiTech and those guys take a look at it.....

I knew you did. cause i remembered you asking HTC for this.

Quote
Originally posted by o0Stream140o
I know this isn't as important as other matters in AH2, but I thought I would put in a request.  I know we have the Film Viewer Program,  but it is limited in it's ablilties in making films.  What I am asking is to have the viewer in the game have the same option as in the film viewer with the "ignore recorded views"

I make movies with these sims,  not many people do it with AH.  Now with the new skins and other things I think that something better can be done.  

This post is more for HTC...  Here is some of the stuff I have done with IL-2 but would love to do it with AH.  

http://www.colstream.neptune.com

Thank you for your time.

See..Im not a jerk guys. I just knew that stream has his sights set higher than just to creat a movie so we can pat him on the back. Thats why i made some suggestions for better or worse. Just observations.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: nopoop on July 04, 2004, 05:28:02 PM
Col Stream, anytime you need an extra or two on the weekend for some filming Email me.

With the skins available online, especially with the 51's ( there's a few B's and D's ) you could do some sweet startup/tactical takeoff/formation stuff with different skins.

Peel offs as in your example would be SWEET with different skins.

I thought the music rocked. Your transistions are top notch.

Let's play !!!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 06:16:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
Col Stream, anytime you need an extra or two on the weekend for some filming Email me.

With the skins available online, especially with the 51's ( there's a few B's and D's ) you could do some sweet startup/tactical takeoff/formation stuff with different skins.

Peel offs as in your example would be SWEET with different skins.

I thought the music rocked. Your transistions are top notch.

Let's play !!!


Only problem Nopoop is that other than your own skin in the film viewer no one elses shows up... so when you see the new skins in my vid... that's me... the F4u that peels off was actually in a skin... but if we can get something like that going... that would be great...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Morpheus on July 04, 2004, 07:44:27 PM
I would like to make a request that your next video use the band
Adema - How you like it.

Kik *** song ;)
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 04, 2004, 07:50:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
I would like to make a request that your next video use the band
Adema - How you like it.

Kik *** song ;)


If you guys want one... I can make it for you... just send me your ah vids in ah form.... and give me an Idea what you want... I can put something together...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: acepilot2 on July 05, 2004, 08:31:40 AM
Hmm...I can't watch it, says i need media player 9 when I already do.

can someone send me the direct URL of the movie?
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Mugzeee on July 05, 2004, 08:34:22 AM
Ace....i just recieved a Update message for my MSMP9 a week ago. Maybe it would help you to update it?
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: 68DevilM on July 05, 2004, 12:05:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Box1
Very cool.....a large part of that was better than the AH commercial on TV.....nice job:) :)


hell that video should be the ah commercial......awsome job sream....

god i wish i had that kind of resoloution:(
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 05, 2004, 02:08:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MoRphEuS
what programs did you use to create this movie stream?


Email me morph... Stream (325th_colstream@comcast.net)
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: TweetyBird on July 05, 2004, 02:29:47 PM
I WANT YOUR VIDEO CARD. :D

Good film. Please tell me the motion blur is an after effect :)
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: MOIL on July 05, 2004, 02:49:09 PM
Very nice movie, great job:aok

Thanks for taking the time to put that together for all to enjoy!
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: mechanic on July 05, 2004, 02:52:53 PM
very nice film.

quality was perfect for me.

music was ace!

seems there is a small bug when looking back through the prop that effects graphics on smoke etc but this is obviously AH2 not your editing.


once again, sweet video mate!


batfink
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 05, 2004, 02:57:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TweetyBird
I WANT YOUR VIDEO CARD. :D

Good film. Please tell me the motion blur is an after effect :)


It was... it's something I stumbled on in production...  I thought it was a cool effect...

Oh the vid card I am running is ATI 9800 xt 256mb... with lastest drivers...with 2 gigs pushing it...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: 68DevilM on July 05, 2004, 04:05:43 PM
question?

how do you know if you have the latest ati driver updates?

i have a 9200 128mb
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 04:21:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
question?

how do you know if you have the latest ati driver updates?

i have a 9200 128mb


Well go to your my computer/properties/hardware/device manager/vid card click on properties then driver look at driver version xx.x.xxx or somthing similar then go to the ATI websight and see what number is the latest drivers.

Note: its best if your going to upgrade your drivers to TOTALLY uninstall your current drivers first
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 04:23:34 PM
o0Stream140o,
Everytime I try your link I get as far as album loading and it just sits there spinning ...never can get to a download
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: TweetyBird on July 05, 2004, 04:42:14 PM
>>It was... it's something I stumbled on in production... I thought it was a cool effect...
<<

Its a very powewful effect. In some other thread, someone brought up the idea of motion blur and how its starting to appear in some game boxes. Can't wait for it to appear on video cards. Your film gives an idea how it would enhance the game.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 05, 2004, 05:18:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by WilldCrd
o0Stream140o,
Everytime I try your link I get as far as album loading and it just sits there spinning ...never can get to a download


Do the two choices come up?
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 05:29:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by o0Stream140o
Do the two choices come up?


They have twice but it goes no farther than that.
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 05, 2004, 05:33:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by WilldCrd
They have twice but it goes no farther than that.


does the viewing screen come up...?  If so depending on your connection it is around 65mb for ah2
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 05:36:07 PM
well I have a cable connect and my speed is about 3.5 mb/sec so it should take approx. 25 seconds
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 05:37:16 PM
just tried it again and still only get loading albums, nothing else
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 05, 2004, 05:38:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by WilldCrd
just tried it again and still only get loading albums, nothing else


do you have flash installed?  You can try to reinstalling that...
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 05:40:11 PM
yeah i have all the latest flash stuff, i've been trying in mozzila so I'll try IE see if that does it
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: WilldCrd on July 05, 2004, 05:46:07 PM
ok I got it to work in IE.
Damn good movie
Hey I sent you an email too stream
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Stang on July 05, 2004, 10:38:30 PM
Dude that rocked!  WTFG!   :aok
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Stang on July 05, 2004, 10:38:31 PM
Dude that rocked!  WTFG!   :aok
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: Maniac on July 06, 2004, 04:15:40 AM
Very good!



:aok
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: TheBeeg on July 06, 2004, 08:55:00 AM
Nice video BUT I subscribe to the fact that the chosen music might not be appropriate.  Why?  Cause I'm 61 and fancy myself as a re-enactor rather than a gamer.  I also have somewhat of a lot of experience with digital video having fully shot and edited weddings up to 2 hrs. long in that format since '95  (not something I ever want to do again).  Anyway back to the music choice.  I recognize that people of all ages have their own music and my parents hated mine but making videos of a WW2 simulatinon utilizing a soundtrack of the present fails in helping the viewer immerse himself in what the main theme is; WWII combat.  However, this is a work of art and is subject to the interpretation of the artist.  I did check out the other video on your Neptune site and found it excellent.  Why?  Cause it was filtered in black & white and used "Praise The Lord and Pass The Ammunition"  I thought I was watching a WW2 movie.  Great work there.
The Beeg
Rampaging Rooks of Retribution in AH1
475th FG "Satans Angels" in WarBirds
JG2 "Richthofen" in WW2OL
and now back trying AH2
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: o0Stream140o on July 06, 2004, 01:21:41 PM
Punt
Title: Movie "AH2"
Post by: eilif on July 06, 2004, 04:51:23 PM
great job, one of the better ah2 vids. Good coordination between music and visuals. It could have used some more camera work tho, the actions and their timeing were very good just a little camera play would have made it that much better. Some closeups would have been cool, most of the shots seemed to consist of medium to far shots, and this isnt your fault since the chase cam's zoom is very limited, as well as most of the camera manipulation in aces high. All in all great job for the tools you have at your disposal. looking forward to more.