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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wanker on July 06, 2004, 08:26:41 AM
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Cya, Dubya.
:aok
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don't you belong to the teachers union? He coulda picked himlers ghost and you would still vote for him.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
don't you belong to the teachers union? He coulda picked himlers ghost and you would still vote for him.
lazs
:rofl
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Originally posted by lazs2
don't you belong to the teachers union? He coulda picked himlers ghost and you would still vote for him.
lazs
LOL, nice try, Lazs. I do not belong to a union. But, I do believe in and support the concept of unions.
What do you think about Kerry's choice of Edwards?
Are you starting to bury your guns yet?
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A rich Northeast liberal life-long politician and a Southern trial lawyer. The perfect Democratic ticket.
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Oh boy a trial lawyer who made his fortune suing doctors and hospitals.
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I think that edwards was might be a smart pick for him. I don't believe that a win by kerry would be the end to the second amendment because he is too cowardly to do much. He is a real politician and when he sticks his wet finger out and sees that gun owners and the American people son't want to be subjects he will back away from the real rabid groups (stab em in the back) like the brady bunch.
I do believe that he will be bad for the country if elected. He will pander to the poor and further class warfare and socialism every way he can. fortunately I belive he will probly lose... even if he wins... I don't think he is courageous enough to really ruin the country. He is no roosevelt or johnson.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I think that edwards was might be a smart pick for him. I don't believe that a win by kerry would be the end to the second amendment because he is too cowardly to do much. He is a real politician and when he sticks his wet finger out and sees that gun owners and the American people son't want to be subjects he will back away from the real rabid groups (stab em in the back) like the brady bunch.
I do believe that he will be bad for the country if elected. He will pander to the poor and further class warfare and socialism every way he can. fortunately I belive he will probly lose... even if he wins... I don't think he is courageous enough to really ruin the country. He is no roosevelt or johnson.
lazs
I'll have to get me some more of that CorBon 230 +P+ ammo.
Karaya
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Lazs, you mean he is no Johnson, as in the Johnson who pushed through civil rights for those uppity Negroes? Is that what you mean about not being brave enough to ruin America?
BTW, you going to the con this year so we can smoke a cigar together?
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Originally posted by Krusher
Oh boy a trial lawyer who made his fortune suing doctors and hospitals.
John Edwards is a part of the problem with our health care system.
MARIETTA - After 24 years practicing general surgery at WellStar Cobb Hospital in Austell, Dr. Don Campbell plans to call it quits.
The 54 year-old physician says he will retire in two weeks, largely because of the rising cost of medical malpractice insurance that he and other surgeons are now forced to pay. Campbell now pays $68,000 a year for up to $2 million in insurance coverage per year - more than four times what he paid four years ago for half the coverage."A lot of physicians my age have moved up their retirement date," he said. "I would have easily worked well into my 60s if things had been more predictable."
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Unleash the hounds! lol
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Cheney and Edwards in a VP debate :rofl
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You really think Cheney is gonna beat this guy in a debate? I really wonder sometimes at the bubble some folks are living in. Edwards is gonna make Cheney feel like the whole things a premature trip to the mortician.
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Didn't Kerry call Edwards "Inexperienced" or something to that effect earlier this year?
I remember reading that....
"I thought John Edwards was inexperienced before I realized I needed the "Soccer Mom-Vote-for-the-Cute-one-Vote".
Do you suppose Kerry is after the Frivilous Lawsuit Scumbag Lawyer Vote, or is simply trying to counter balance his Herman Munster Appearance with a guy who looks like he came off the set of General Hospital?
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Originally posted by Nash
You really think Cheney is gonna beat this guy in a debate? I really wonder sometimes at the bubble some folks are living in. Edwards is gonna make Cheney feel like the whole things a premature trip to the mortician.
Well, Sure...Edwards has the experience...
What's Edwards trying to do here...Take away Cheneys House and Livelyhood...
Pretty much what this scumbag Lawyer has been doing his whole career.
Should'nt he be out suing a drive thru or something?
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Originally posted by Nash
You really think Cheney is gonna beat this guy in a debate? I really wonder sometimes at the bubble some folks are living in. Edwards is gonna make Cheney feel like the whole things a premature trip to the mortician.
Why do you think so?
Because Cheney is older?
Because Edwards is a young man and an intersting public speaker?
Have you ever seen Edwards debate? Delivering a good stump speech is one thing, but a contested debate is a whole different animal.
So basically what exactly are you basing this conclusion on?
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I've seen Edwards in a number of debates. I've seen Cheney in a couple. So that's what I'm basing it on.
This is Edward's territory believe me.
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The Democratic primary debates?
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Lets see what Mr. Edwards Stand for....
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_Edwards.htm (http://)
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions
"This legislation, if enacted, would ban the abortion procedure in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. "
Roll back the Bush tax cuts and address real priorities.
"We need to balance the need for fiscal responsibility against the need to invest in areas like education and help for working families. I have proposed a series of measures to restore fiscal discipline. We need to roll back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest and restore a tax code that honors work, not wealth."
More on website....no time to post.
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Ayup.
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Just curious why do yu follow us politics so closely?
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Lets see what Mr. Edwards Stand for....
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/John_Edwards.htm (http://)
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions
"This legislation, if enacted, would ban the abortion procedure in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. "
Roll back the Bush tax cuts and address real priorities.
"We need to balance the need for fiscal responsibility against the need to invest in areas like education and help for working families. I have proposed a series of measures to restore fiscal discipline. We need to roll back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest and restore a tax code that honors work, not wealth."
More on website....no time to post.
Muck, I agree with you that partial-birth abortions need to be banned, but in this election the most important issue is going to be where we are going as a nation in the war on terrorism, and how that war is going to be fought, wouldn't you agree?
Based on that, Bush is a menace to our country's pretige and reputation, and must be removed from power, at almost any cost.
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Do you want to give me a phone call and discuss me for a while? It's got nothing to do with this thread...
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Originally posted by Nash
Do you want to give me a phone call and discuss me for a while? It's got nothing to do with this thread...
Why not.
Whats the number?
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the only cards Edwards can play against Cheney is physical appearance and that good old boy southern drawl. Or if Cheney has a massive heart attack.
Edwards is a good guy, hell.......I pefer Edwards over Kerry by a long margin but put Edwards up against Cheney and, unless Cheney has a really bad day, Edwards will be totally owned.
just my opinion......of course.
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Originally posted by banana
Muck, I agree with you that partial-birth abortions need to be banned, but in this election the most important issue is going to be where we are going as a nation in the war on terrorism, and how that war is going to be fought, wouldn't you agree?
Based on that, Bush is a menace to our country's pretige and reputation, and must be removed from power, at almost any cost.
Our reputation and prestige in Europe?
The war on terror is the most important issue and I'd rather not leave it in the hands of a Freshman Senator who's previous job was a trial attorney and Jane Fonda's Biatch who voted to gut the intelligence community, and voted against every major weapon system we employ in said war on terror.
I could care less what the French think about us.
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lol... I'm at work.
... but to be honest, I only open myself up to chicks and that's only if there's a chance for sex.
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Originally posted by banana
Muck, I agree with you that partial-birth abortions need to be banned, but in this election the most important issue is going to be where we are going as a nation in the war on terrorism, and how that war is going to be fought, wouldn't you agree?
Based on that, Bush is a menace to our country's pretige and reputation, and must be removed from power, at almost any cost.
Are you saying then that going after the terroists where they live is a bad thing? Perhaps an emotional round of Kumbaya would convince the terroists that we are really the same as them and we'll all live happily ever after.
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Ok.. And the point of all this was?
So again, why do you follow US politics so closely?
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Originally posted by AKIron
Are you saying then that going after the terroists where they live is a bad thing? Perhaps an emotional round of Kumbaya would convince the terroists that we are really the same as them and we'll all live happily ever after.
That's just it, Iron. Maybe had we picked a country where the terrorists live, my feelings would be different. I don't think anyone disagreed with going into Afghanistan. But the link between Saddam and Al-Quaeda has not proven to have been true.
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banana, regarding you're statement about prestige and reputation, the "real world" isn't a college campus where "free thinkers" are respected and admired for their rebellion against the system. Power isn't bestowed, it is taken, often violently, always forcefully. The liberal utopia so many dream of can only exist in a society protected by violence.
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Originally posted by AKIron
banana, regarding you're statement about prestige and reputation, the "real world" isn't a college campus where "free thinkers" are respected and admired for their rebellion against the system. Power isn't bestowed, it is taken, often violently, always forcefully. The liberal utopia so many dream of can only exist in a society protected by violence.
That sounds a lot like how Kaiser Wilhelm II thought. He was always talking about how it was Germany's might which would place her in the spotlight of history and give her her rightful place at the top of nations. I'll look and see if I can find some of his quotes.
My point being, that we don't live in a vacuum, and we should consider the ramifications of totally ignoring what the global community of nations thinks of our actions. I do agree with you, though, that sometimes we need to do what's right, regardless of what other countries think.
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Originally posted by lazs2
don't you belong to the teachers union? He coulda picked himlers ghost and you would still vote for him.
lazs
LOL.
Man, my week is complete. TY in advance. (LOL Hoopty thing added here)
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the world has always been ruled by the bigger weapon....from sticks and stones to ICBMs.
We are territorial beasts who love to fart around with the neighboring tribe.
Might as well make sure your tribe has the most badass stick on the block.
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I bet someone gets fired.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040706/capt.nyr10107061606.post_gephardt_gaffe_nyr101.jpg)
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040706/capt.nyr10107061606.post_gephardt_gaffe_nyr101.jpg
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Cheney is a pretty good debater, but I'd give the nod to Edwards too. It won't be a slaughter, but Edwards will take him..... 3 falls out of 4.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Our reputation and prestige in Europe?
The war on terror is the most important issue and I'd rather not leave it in the hands of a Freshman Senator who's previous job was a trial attorney and Jane Fonda's Biatch who voted to gut the intelligence community, and voted against every major weapon system we employ in said war on terror.
I could care less what the French think about us.
Just some of the facts
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=209
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Kerry should have picked someone more suited to debate Cheney. Someone like Winston Churchill's Parrot:
"**** you!"
"No **** You!" "Bwaak"
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Originally posted by Silat
Just some of the facts
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=209
From your source:
"And while it's true that Kerry voted to cut intelligence spending in 1994, he did so as part of a much larger deficit-reduction bill at a time of massive federal deficits and growing agreement that military spending could safely be scaled back in the wake of the Soviet Union's collapse."
What year was the WTC bombed for the first time?
1993.
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The Democratic National Committe and John Kerry actually wanted a candidate who was a southern Catholic fundamentalist pro-anti-abortion lesbian immigrant steel-worker African-American female raised by middle-class whites...but they had to settle for Edwards.
Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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"Still my racing Heart......"
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Originally posted by ra
A rich Northeast liberal life-long politician and a Southern trial lawyer. The perfect Democratic ticket.
shack
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the dems got it arse backwards
should have been je for pres with jk for veep
but that is nothing new for the dems
LANDSLIDE BUSH!
(http://www.uiowa.edu/~policult/bush/bushgallery/image/liberty1-398h.jpg)
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Originally posted by Eagler
the dems got it arse backwards
should have been je for pres with jk for veep
I agree with you on this point:)
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
I agree with you on this point:)
Me, too. Flip these two around and Bush wouldn't have had a chance.
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Originally posted by banana
Me, too. Flip these two around and Bush wouldn't have had a chance.
:aok
But, in the meantime...
(http://www.johnkerry.com/images/home/070604_vp.jpg)
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ya know... I was wondering how they were gonna get the womens vote... Women vote based on looks and what the morning shows tell em to do.
even if all the tv shows tell em to vote for kerry tho they just wouldn't be able to vote for someone that ugly... you will be seeing a lot of that edwards on the morning shows.
the male lefties like ugly guys tho because they feel that he is "one of them". He's a freeking billionare morons.
lazs
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John Edwards made a personal fortune of $60 million in malpratice suits, that means he personaly raised YOUR health insurance costs at least $180 million.
an excellent choice for kerry who says he will LOWER health care costs.
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Originally posted by lazs2
ya know... I was wondering how they were gonna get the womens vote... Women vote based on looks and what the morning shows tell em to do.
even if all the tv shows tell em to vote for kerry tho they just wouldn't be able to vote for someone that ugly... you will be seeing a lot of that edwards on the morning shows.
the male lefties like ugly guys tho because they feel that he is "one of them". He's a freeking billionare morons.
lazs
Dead on, Lazs.
Ask anyone on the street what JE brings to the table..
Most folks say John Who, and the others say, "Young, Vivacious," in other words...you have no idea who he is or what he stands for. You just gave the woman's answer....
"Welll, He's good looking...tee-hee".
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by john9001
John Edwards made a personal fortune of $60 million in malpratice suits, that means he personaly raised YOUR health insurance costs at least $180 million.
an excellent choice for kerry who says he will LOWER health care costs.
Who needs doctors or hospitals, anyway?
Everyone knows that the insurance companies and med mal practice attorneys are the real heroes of healthcare.
Doctors should never earn more than $12/hour and should only get to breath oxygenated air when the insurance companies allow them. They are, after all, nothing but money-grubbing snakes who live off the blood of unsuspecting, helpless patients.
Just when I thought Kerry couldn't possibly get any uglier... It's a whole new day.
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Originally posted by john9001
John Edwards made a personal fortune of $60 million in malpratice suits, that means he personaly raised YOUR health insurance costs at least $180 million.
an excellent choice for kerry who says he will LOWER health care costs.
Are we really gonna vote for a god-damned ambulance chasing lawyer?
F***...let's just vote for Jacoby and Meyers for god's sake...
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Are we really gonna vote for a god-damned ambulance chasing lawyer?
F***...let's just vote for Jacoby and Meyers for god's sake...
It's okay Muck, just think about it this way... Get a head start on collecting dirt on this piece of ****, and if he and Lurch win, you can make millions on an award winning documentary in 2008.
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"We know that for at least 20 years, Saddam Hussein has obsessively sought weapons of mass destruction through every means available. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons today. He has used them in the past, and he is doing everything he can to build more. Each day he inches closer to his longtime goal of nuclear capability a capability that could be less than a year away.
I believe that Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime represents a clear threat to the United States, to our allies, to our interests around the world, and to the values of freedom and democracy we hold dear...
The path of confronting Saddam is full of hazards. But the path of inaction is far more dangerous. This week, a week where we remember the sacrifice of thousands of innocent Americans made on 9-11, the choice could not be starker. Had we known that such attacks were imminent, we surely would have used every means at our disposal to prevent them and take out the plotters. We cannot wait for such a terrible event or, if weapons of mass destruction are used, one far worse to address the clear and present danger posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq."
- John Edwards on Iraq, September 12, 2002
"In the Senate four years and that is the full extent of public life no international experience, no military experience...When I came back from Vietnam in 1969 I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers."
- John Kerry
"One evening while he was campaigning for the Senate in North Carolina, Edwards was faced with a choice of several events he might attend. An advance man suggested, 'Maybe we ought to go to the reception for Leah Rabin.' Edwards responded, 'Who's she?' 'Yitzhak Rabin's widow,' replied the aide. 'Who was he?' asked Edwards"
- Charles Peters, Washington Monthly, June 2003
...The untold story of Edwards's candidacy is that Edwards may have built his fortune in part by relying on the very sort of "junk science" medical-malpractice lawsuits that have created a health-care crisis in no fewer than 19 states. Some of Edwards's biggest wins including a jury verdict of $6.5 million (reduced to $2.75 million on appeal) and a settlement of a reported $5 million came from cases suing doctors, hospitals, and insurance companies over infant cerebral palsy allegedly due to botched deliveries.
Yet as my Manhattan Institute colleague Walter Olson has documented in the Wall Street Journal and on his website overlawyered.com, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, in a comprehensive study released last year, determined that delivery problems were not to blame for cerebral palsy in the "vast majority" of cases. Cerebral palsy is instead typically caused by factors beyond the doctor's control, such as maternal thyroid problems, genetic abnormalities, or prenatal infection. The ACOG report was peer reviewed and endorsed by, among others, the Centers for Disease Control and the United Cerebral Palsy Research and Education Foundation....
...Presumably, Edwards's rivals have been loath to attack his unsavory accumulation of wealth at least in part because of their fear of and ultimate dependence on cash contributions from the litigation industry. Plaintiffs' attorneys, whom we dubbed "Trial Lawyers, Inc." in a report on the industry last fall, have poured funds into the coffers of their political allies to gain unprecedented influence at the national and state levels. The Association of Trial Lawyers of America routinely ranks among the top five donors to federal campaigns; in the last full political cycle, ATLA was the largest PAC contributor to the Democratic party.
ATLA's PAC contributions are merely the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Trial Lawyers, Inc.'s political influence. Through individual and soft-money contributions, as well as PAC donations, the lawsuit industry has surpassed all others in political giving in every electoral cycle since 1990. All told, the litigation industry has contributed a half billion to federal campaigns since 1990. Some of this money of course came from defense firms who split their contributions between the parties. But the largest givers have consistently been plaintiffs' firms; in the last political cycle, each of the seven firms giving over $1 million to federal campaigns was a plaintiffs' firm, and each gave at least 99 percent of their money to Democrats.
Edwards himself has been particularly dependant on his fellow trial attorneys' largesse. When first campaigning for the Senate in 1998, Edwards received more than half his total outside contributions from his friends in the lawsuit industry. The sprightly senator began his 2004 presidential run by topping all Democratic candidates in fundraising for the first quarter, with almost two-thirds of his take coming from trial lawyers, their families, and their staffs. As noted by the Wall Street Journal, "even political professionals seem[ed] stunned by the degree to which his candidacy ha[d] become a wholly owned financial subsidiary of the national tort bar."...
cont: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/copland200401260836.asp
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PS:
Citing the non-partisan journal Congressional Quarterly, the RNC said, From 1999-2002, Edwards voted with Senator Ted Kennedy 90 percent of the time and Senator Hillary Clinton 89 percent of the time.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5377813
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Senator Hillary Clinton 89 percent of the time.
Not bad. He was only wrong 11% of the time then.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not bad. He was only wrong 11% of the time then.
LOL
a lefts wrong is really a right :)
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Congrats to Edwards.
:D