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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: 214thCavalier on July 07, 2004, 07:56:58 PM
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Official Cat 4.7s are out but real point of this post is to say that using them my 9800 pro 128mb now shows 128.8mb available in AH2.
Using all previous drivers it never showed more than 122mb as available.
Wrong thread i know but spammed it here as well to grab attention as it may help.
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Thnx Cav..Same card here and D/Ling now.:D
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Yes Sir! thanks. I would hope this kinda info is always welcome here.
Dracon
I would be intersted in your results? I use Omega Drivers so I have to wait a week.
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thanks cav :)
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I've been using the omega drivers with my 9700 pro and have been showing 130.9m available for some time now....
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Anyone notice the "Temporal Anti Aliasing" tick box?
Temporal = partial screen AA ?
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Originally posted by Octavius
Anyone notice the "Temporal Anti Aliasing" tick box?
Temporal = partial screen AA ?
From what I read, temporal AA is a kind of dynamic AA that improves as your framerate allows. The higher the framerate the sharper the AA improvements. As your framerate drops below 60 it auto-gimps AA to compensate.
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So which is better? The Omega or CAT drivers. I have the ATI 9800 Pro 256MB card. I'm using the CAT 4.6 drivers now. Curious as to which is better. and what the differances are.
Thanks
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My take...
There's a bunch of "tweaking" that can be done to the ATI CAT drivers so you would want "RageTweak" or some one of the other "Tweak" proggies.
Omega is on the ATI Beta Driver writers team. All he does is take the ATI CAT's and Pre-Tweaks them so you don't have to! In fact the only options you should touch on the Omegas are Anti-Aliasing, Anisotropic Filtering, and VSYNC. Omega also adds a proggie called "RadLinker" a profile program that allows you to set the above parameters by the individual program. Example: If you want AntiAliasing X4 on AH2 with VSYNC on you can do that. If in Halo you want no AA or AF and VSYNC off you can do that! RadLinker works off the Programs .exe only! Very very slick! Also Omega adds his own version of "DriverCleaner2", a program to completely remove all Video drivers if you want a "Clean Slate". Using his drivers it is un-necessary to remove his old drivers first! Simply install one version over the other. They auto-magically remove the old and install the new. If you want to return to older drivers the procedure is the same.
Of note! I have been using his drivers from the begining. He makes drivers for NVIDIA as well as ATI. I have used both. To date, I have never ever had a moments problem.
Go Omega!!
Regards and GL!
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Originally posted by Zazen13
From what I read, temporal AA is a kind of dynamic AA that improves as your framerate allows. The higher the framerate the sharper the AA improvements. As your framerate drops below 60 it auto-gimps AA to compensate.
not really
TAA has 2 modes
TAAx2 or TAAx3
these multiply the normal FSAA modes of 2, 4 or 6
for instance TAAx2 and FSAAx2 makes the AA look like x4, but it still performs like x2, which is great.
how it works is clever, but you need vsync on, and a fps over 60 (60 is too low i think, 70 works slightly better). Anyway, it starts by alternating the AA angle, so Angle A, and angle B go like this ABABABABABABA....TAAx3 would be ABCABCABCABCABC. The reason you need high fps and vsync on is because of the rapid flicking of the different AA angles. if using TAAx2 (ABABA...) @ only 60fps, you get 30fps of A's and 30fps of B's, but because its only 30fps you will see the rapid changing of pixels on the edge of objects, and it looks like your gfx card is broken! lol
TAAx3 makes this even worse, as at 60fps /3 = 20fps.
70fps min if you want to use TAAx2 and not see *much* flickering (i still see Some if i look for it, barly noticeable), 80+ would be better. TAAx3 needs about 120fps/hz to work without the flicker :(
the rapid flicking of different angles trick your eyes into thinking your using the higher FSAA mode, but the gfx card does less work
hardocp image showing how it works (http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTA4MzAzNjk0NGJ3UHFVM2NZQWJfN180X2wuanBn)
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YMMV of course, and many will argue otherwise, but I get better results overall with Cats than with Omegas.
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I am using an Athalon 1800 with Radeon 9000/128MB
and get consistent 30-40 FPS in the MA. ATI came out
with a new Catalyst this month (version 4.6) If you havent gotten
this yet you may want to. I'm brand new to this game, so
I can't compare how AH would run with earlier versions, but
I made sure I got this new catalyst before I joined AH. All
the graphics seem to be very smooth.
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Welcome aboard Ohio :)
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Read all about it here ...
http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=4533&head=1&comments=1
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Cavalear Thanks!!
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Where do you get omega drivers? Are they better? I have a 9800 pro 128 all in wonder, will they work on this?
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Where do you get omega drivers? Are they better? I have a 9800 pro 128 all in wonder, will they work on this?
Go here ...
http://www.omegadrivers.net/
and yes they will work with your card.
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why do so many people call althons althalons? :confused:
and what the hell is so good about omega drivers...all i see when i use them is terrible image quality, for SLIGHTLY more fps
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I personaly have quit using the Omegas.
Reasons...in my machines' case FR and image clarity appear better when I use the Cats.
Also....appears my registry seems less cluttered with the Cats.
I would assume that depending on ones' machine configuration driver performance would be dependant on that fact alone.
Using 9800Pro here with 128 vid mem.
Now shows 128.8 with the Cat 4.7s.
Also...a word to the wise.....If it ain't broke...don't fix it.
If you're maxed out on FR now...depending on monitor refresh etc. changing drivers isn't going to help...so I would suggest not cluttering up your system with useless video driver links.
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Originally posted by Overlag
and what the hell is so good about omega drivers...all i see when i use them is terrible image quality, for SLIGHTLY more fps
Overlag, I feel I gave a pretty good Overview on the Omegas in my post above!
As always, not everything works for everyone! Use what works the best for you. Thankfully there are choices out there.
Good Flying,
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Originally posted by dracon
Thankfully there are choices out there.
yup. :)
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I am getting a sapphire ati 9800pro 128mb. Will I be able to still get omega drivers?
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Yes.
http://www.omegadrivers.net/
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i quit using omega drivers when the last one corrupted my sys. and had to reformat, tried it again and same result :mad:
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Originally posted by Overlag
why do so many people call althons althalons? :confused:
and what the hell is so good about omega drivers...all i see when i use them is terrible image quality, for SLIGHTLY more fps
Why do so many people call Athlons althons or althalons? :D
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With stock Cat drivers I can alt-tab out of any game or program. With Omegas I can't , games will crash/lockup/create rainbow colors, any version. Go figure.