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Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Gixer on July 09, 2004, 08:07:34 PM
Good Job!

Iraq war is the US's biggest international blunder for decades. Anyone who thinks the Bush admin wasn't pressurising the intelligence community behind the scenes for finding information to backup their long pre conceived plan for the war in Iraq is kidding themselves.

Like the bad intelligence and no WMD"s this to will eventually come out in the wash over time just.

The Iraq war was unjustified and nothing more then a war of choice. The argument that " Saddam Hussein was a big enough threat in a post-September 11 world to justify toppling regardless of whether stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction existed."

Dosn't stack up as Powell himself earlier in 2001 said on record that Iraq was contained and no longer presented a regional let alone a internationl threat due to inspections and sanctions.

Sadam's trial will be interesting as  for the Bush admin it will probably prove to be even more of an embarrassment for them then it will for Sadam.

Maybe one day Bush will have his day in court as well. Or in the very least fired in Novemeber for stupidity.



...-Gixer
Title: Re: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: FUNKED1 on July 09, 2004, 08:20:27 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
DETH TO AMREEKA!!! DETH TO BOOSH!!!
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2004, 08:22:33 PM
If you don't like it Gixer, move out! Oh wait, you don't live here! Screw off then! :cool:
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Yeager on July 09, 2004, 08:25:16 PM
aint buying none of it gixer.  im sure some canadian will be along shortly to consecrate your opinion.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: FUNKED1 on July 09, 2004, 08:28:08 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
aint buying none of it gixer.  im sure some canadian will be along shortly to consecrate your opinion.


They wouldn't use the term consecrate.  Christians = EVAL!!!
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: SLO on July 09, 2004, 08:29:52 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
aint buying none of it gixer.  im sure some canadian will be along shortly to consecrate your opinion.


well someone has to make fun of you right wing nutcases:D
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: storch on July 09, 2004, 09:13:14 PM
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Originally posted by SLO
well someone has to make fun of you right wing nutcases:D


"Boom goes London, Boom Paree, more room for you and more room for me.  They all hate us anyhow so lets drop the big one now."

Randy Newman
"Foriegn Policy"
1972
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Gixer on July 09, 2004, 09:13:39 PM
So would you all have the same opinion if Bush wasn't a Republican? Maybe you should try looking further then just left and right wing politics.



...-Gixer
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: NUKE on July 09, 2004, 09:15:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
So would you all have the same opinion if Bush wasn't a Republican? Maybe you should try looking further then just left and right wing politics.



...-Gixer


I wished Bush Sr. or Clinton would have taken out Saddam actually. Makes no difference to me.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Slash27 on July 09, 2004, 09:50:53 PM
So would you all have the same opinion if Bush wasn't a Republican? Maybe you should try looking further then just left and right wing politics.

My number one concern for the upcoming election, is the complete destruction of terrorists. These people must be killed plain and simple. The problem is the rest of the world wont allow this. So I will choose the person that will stay the course as best as he can. Your a good dude Gix and I have respect for you, but i dont get why you and others have such a hard on for America.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 09, 2004, 10:02:59 PM
Because Amreeka is the Great Satan!
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Slash27 on July 09, 2004, 10:10:56 PM
So I hear Grun.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 09, 2004, 10:22:18 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
So I hear Grun.


Thanks be to Allah, Bush has not gotten to you yet!
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Sixpence on July 09, 2004, 10:25:44 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
My number one concern for the upcoming election, is the complete destruction of terrorists. These people must be killed plain and simple.


Which is why it disturbs me that GW does not consider OBL important anymore.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Slash27 on July 09, 2004, 10:32:43 PM
Which is why it disturbs me that GW does not consider OBL important anymore.

Other than you voting for Kerry, where does this come from?
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Sixpence on July 09, 2004, 10:39:41 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Which is why it disturbs me that GW does not consider OBL important anymore.

Other than you voting for Kerry, where does this come from?




"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI


"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: xrtoronto on July 09, 2004, 10:54:39 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI


"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)



I think sixpence is really M Moore:eek:

(there was a scene in F9/11 identical to this)
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Gixer on July 09, 2004, 10:55:49 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
So would you all have the same opinion if Bush wasn't a Republican? Maybe you should try looking further then just left and right wing politics.

My number one concern for the upcoming election, is the complete destruction of terrorists. These people must be killed plain and simple. The problem is the rest of the world wont allow this. So I will choose the person that will stay the course as best as he can. Your a good dude Gix and I have respect for you, but i dont get why you and others have such a hard on for America.



I couldn't agree more on your comment about terroists but there are two main issues.

1.  You can't destroy terroism at best all you can do is manage it, since it's an ideal not confined to one specific area or population. That's why you can't have a "war on terror" makes no sense.

2.  Invasion of Iraq was the best early xmas present OBL could  ever of wished for.


Oh and for those that say, he's not American what does his opinion count. Well terroism is global and Bush's actions amd reactions effect us all.



...-Gixer
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Sixpence on July 09, 2004, 10:57:30 PM
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
I think sixpence is really M Moore:eek:

(there was a scene in F9/11 identical to this)


I see being original is not his strong point.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: AKIron on July 10, 2004, 12:35:29 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Which is why it disturbs me that GW does not consider OBL important anymore.


How would you, or I, know how important Bush considers getting bin Laden? Wouldn't be prudent to reveal your plans to your enemy, right? Not gonna do it.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Sixpence on July 10, 2004, 01:55:39 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron

How would you, or I, know how important Bush considers getting bin Laden?

Ahh, by what comes out of the horses mouth?


Wouldn't be prudent to reveal your plans to your enemy, right? Not gonna do it.

Didn't he announce it to begin with? Or did you bother to read the quotes?
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Yeager on July 10, 2004, 04:20:00 AM
If BILLY CLINTON would have had the balls to do what Georgie has done I would have supported that dumb stupid southern bastard through thick and thin.  I would have driven over canadians in studded snow tires if thats what it took.  Didnt happen.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: storch on July 10, 2004, 07:35:09 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
If BILLY CLINTON would have had the balls to do what Georgie has done I would have supported that dumb stupid southern bastard through thick and thin.  I would have driven over canadians in studded snow tires if thats what it took.  Didnt happen.
:rofl
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: lazs2 on July 10, 2004, 09:59:59 AM
I am one of the over 50% of Americans that feel the sadman had to go..

I also noticed that a lot of wild eyed pistol wavers and despots have become more polite since.

lazs
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: AKIron on July 10, 2004, 10:06:12 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
How would you, or I, know how important Bush considers getting bin Laden?

Ahh, by what comes out of the horses mouth?


Wouldn't be prudent to reveal your plans to your enemy, right? Not gonna do it.

Didn't he announce it to begin with? Or did you bother to read the quotes?


He did and I did. Doesn't mean he hasn't changed his tatics. Maybe Osama will get a bit careless if he believes he isn't being sought with as much vengance. Or perhaps he will be goaded into the open becuase he isn't getting the attention he wants.


Maybe I wasn't clear enough earlier. What I'm saying is that the president doesn't, and shouldn't, reveal all of his plans. Of course it would be nice if he could reveal them to Americans only and not the enemy but that just isn't possible.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Sixpence on July 10, 2004, 10:37:34 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
If BILLY CLINTON would have had the balls to do what Georgie has done I would have supported that dumb stupid southern bastard through thick and thin.  I would have driven over canadians in studded snow tires if thats what it took.  Didnt happen.


He tried to get support, and if 9/11 didn't happen, GW would not have got it either.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: demaw1 on July 11, 2004, 02:54:42 PM
gixer  re cant destory terroist.

    I totally disagree, this is not new,only differance is we now live in a political correct inviroment and to many people support not dealing with evil.

   example; late 1800s, the british encountered much the same thing.It was causing as much havoc then as now.They decided to use their religion against them. They took 100 arabs killed in battle, some where terroist much like today.They killed 100 pigs and wrapped the pigs around the bodies of the arabs,the arabs were dumped into a mass grave. They then made a proclamation that any terroist killed would be buried in same manner.Within 3 months[ communcations were slow then] all terroism stopped completely and many many lives were saved on both sides.
  Would I do this? Ya in a heartbeat,but to day most people in the world believe evil is equal to good.That what is good for 1 is evil for another,who are we to judge.
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 11, 2004, 03:09:30 PM
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Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Gunslinger on July 11, 2004, 03:40:45 PM
what this report lacks is real credible blame.  Of course the congress will never blame itself....

it does not explain the lack of human intellegence.....congress tied the CIAs hands

It does not explain how underfunded our intell agencies were....congress slashed their budgets repeatedly

If you think that this admin has just given up on OBL remove your head from your bellybutton and take a real good breath of fresh air.  The hunt is still on.

Iraq is now a central battle ground to fight terrorists.  They've (terrorists) fluffied up here by targeting muslims when they couldnt effectivly kill Americans.  Arab countries are now taking notice that this way of life must stop.  They are blowing people up at religious gatherings while we are building schools and hospitals.

Arabs are getting a taste of democracy and liking it.  Regeims like Iran and the house of Saud are now quaking in their sandles over this fact.  

We've killed numerous terrorist and terrorist leaders through our actions

And we managed to piss of Europe and the UN all at the same time.

I'd say things are good! :)
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Masherbrum on July 11, 2004, 06:25:29 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
He tried to get support, and if 9/11 didn't happen, GW would not have got it either.


He chose to pull out of Somalia.  Give it up.  Clinton was/is a p***y.  He'd rather commit adultery than have to deal with Al Queda.

Karaya
Title: Report slams Bush administration
Post by: Gixer on July 11, 2004, 11:34:25 PM
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Originally posted by demaw1
gixer  re cant destory terroist.

    I totally disagree, this is not new,only differance is we now live in a political correct inviroment and to many people support not dealing with evil.



Well England was fighting IRA for a long time and now look at Israel. And Israel isn't very PC about it. Terrosim is an ideal spread around the world  not confined to one country or one race that  can be destroyed. There will always be terroism, like there will always be people that comit crime like murder.

Best you can do is manage it, to reduce terrroism as much as possible. Declaring war on Terroism and saying you will destroy it is like the police saying they are going to declare war on Murder.

Isn't possible, just sounds good for the press and PR. Like "Mission Accomplished" And "Hunt down kill or capture".  LOL



...-Gixer