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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Spoons - SimHQ on January 05, 2001, 08:45:00 AM
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Think Aces High fans will be interested:
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/bestof2000/ (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/bestof2000/)
S!
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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It may be my browser, but when I go to the link, I get a blank page...anyone else getting this?
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Works fine for me Rip.
Just one question for those at SimQ: Do you guys host this BBS? Hehehehe
AKDejaVu
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Ripsnort, what browser do you use?
AK, not sure what you mean.
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Sorry spoons.. running joke from Dogfighter's similar evaluation.
AKDejaVu
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I like DogFighter and I like SimHQ. However the greater depth and variety of articles, great coverage of all sims/games (lol. wil they ever get Moggy to do his interview...) and the un-affiliated nature of SimHQ has made them number one for me for about a year.
http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/bestof2000/ (http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/features/bestof2000/)
A BIG WTFG AH!!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-05-2001).]
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Sorry spoons.. running joke from Dogfighter's similar evaluation.
AKDejaVu
Ah, gotcha.....the gerbil hasn't started running on the little wheel in my head yet this AM. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
And thanks, Westy.
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Using Netscrape 4.04 I draw a big blank.....wtf?
Someone paste it here.
Yeager
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You know, on my tombstone it will read "Netscape killed this poor webmaster" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I'm looking into NS problems right now. NS 6.0 worked fine, I was told.
Hopefully will work soon.....sorry!
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Yeager, go to http://www.simhq.com (http://www.simhq.com) and click on the link on front page.
-Westy
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Using Netscape Communicator here at work, I'll log into another PC and check it out with Internet Exploder.
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Netscape 4.04 has known bugs.
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Netscape chokes when there's a </table> tag missing. Not really a "bug" per se, but a problem, yes. MSIE does just fine with it.
Regardless, problem should be fixed now. I'm looking at it in NS 4.61 as we speak.
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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Congrats, HTC. You most assuredly deserve it
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! (http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/ruinkai/biggrinking.gif)
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John "SUPERFLY" Guytan - Art Director
HiTech Creations
"You fondle my trigger, then you blame my gun."
-=HELLFIRE=- SQUAD
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Nice to see that AH won it by a non-bias, unaffiliated sim website!
<S> HTC!
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<S> To HTC for getting the recognition they deserved for Aces High.
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WTG HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Congrats HTC!! Well deserved. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Well, now SimHQ is my website of choice. Ever since that sweetheart deal dogfighter.com pulled with Warbirds, I've removed their bookmark.
Interesting that #1 AND #2 were both WW2 online sims.
HTC, you deserved it.
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Congratulations to HTC, the CM's, the trainer's and the entire AH development team.... <S>
Badger
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it's good to be da king (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<S> HTC
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Well, looks some of your hard work is being recognized.
Congrats HTC.
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Well deserved HTC. Do it again next year (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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WTG AH!
Runner up: Warbirds .. you guys gotta love that (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Eagler
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Congrats, HT and crew. Well deserved (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
What's interesting is that in both the SimHQ and Dogfighter awards, AH and WB were neck and neck. I wonder which way Dogfighter would have swung if they'd had 1.05 to play with before making the call.
FWIW, I think folks trashing dogfighter as biased is lame. It's not like they trashed AH, people - they said it was almost too close to call. DF gives AH a LOT of positive press.
In any case, congrats, HTC!
Spitboy -SW-
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Right now Dogfighter's news briefs in left column have THREE Aces High newspieces, one WarBirds piece and three other pieces.
So, they're a WB magazine? Tilted towards WB?
FYI, AGW has always been independent forum. It hasn't always resided in Dogfighter and Dogfighter wasn't their only choice when they had to move to new location. Dogfighter's offer was accepted but aside that, they dont have anything else to do with AGW than providing some server space.
Some people here seem just plain stupid in their opinions. Sorry, IMHO.
And WTG people behind Aces High!
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VLeLv Icebreakers
Überfinns Perkele
http://www.compart.fi/icebreakers
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Grats to all HTC! AH really is a masterpiece (that keeps getting better!). I really love to see small group of hard working people come up with something incredible. Sometimes more is not better... and I really think the small HTC staff has *helped* the development of AH... would love to come up with an idea and run with it instead of sitting through 50,000 planning meetings where by the time the idea gets implemented it is irrelevant.... anyway... keep doing what you are doing HTC, AH is one heck of a sim. It shows that some very motivated people have poured their heart and soul into it and come up with a gem. Of course... we knew it all along... =)
<S>!
Paxil
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Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work
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Right now Dogfighter's news briefs in left column have THREE Aces High newspieces, one WarBirds piece and three other pieces.
So, they're a WB magazine? Tilted towards WB?
LOL! My guess that it might be because Warbirds hasn't changed squat.
BTW.. those three "articles" are simply the postings in the Announcements portion of this board. One reason they don't have to do that for iEN is because iEN posts them on AGW themselves. Of course... the last three weeks worth of output have looked like a prime example of "save as..." in action.
AKDejaVu
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Well. It is not a singular opinion and one I've had before AH was even about. DF is an E-zine begun by WBer's and maintaned by mostly WB'ers with nominal free lance input by other sim/game reps. Sure they give alot of press to AH, but they do also for WB's and many other sims/games. IMO, when Rafter left it created a hole at DF that Phaetn, bless em for trying, has not been able to fill single handedly. But Phaetn, Scop, Wily, Target - all of the regular staff and half the DF network are sites all connected to WB's or iEN one way or another.
It's natural to lean towards what one likes.
-Westy
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Just have to throw my $.02 in. I'm not a huge online player or in either "camp." I like AH. I like WB. I know there are strong feelings in both camps about the other, and we knew that this award would generate heat.
But I want to publically say that I have a lot of regard for Gian and the rest of the guys at Dogfighter. There's a fraternity (dysfunctional family? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) of sim news/feature/forums sites, and I have a lot of respect for them and like their content a lot. I've emailed back and forth with both Gian and Dave Ethell from time to time about different things and have respect for them both as a competitor site to mine and as a fellow simmer.
We came up with differing results for the same basic competition....no big sign to me that one or the other has sold out. That's why there's three flavors of ice cream in the box.
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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OK its Yeager time.
JS, I dig what both you and the editor of DF have said but I gots to tell ya this and I really dont see myself being out of the ordinary here:
There is a substantial and marked difference of both content and quality of product between 1.05 and 2.76....I am amazed that some people think that theres this really close competative edge between these two products.
There isnt.
Only difference is the historical community at iEN is more mature. Thats it from everything my experience has shown me.
Yeager
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and Yeager don't forget that the developement life cycle is dead for WB2.xx and has been for the most part since the original ICI members parted for bigger and better things. Some left for WW2Ol, some are here, others I have no idea about?
Giving a product a good review, award or not, for future modifications that have been due out for over a year and a half but still aren't out IMO is not the way to write a review or anything along those lines.
Whether HTC won this award or not or won dogfighters or not doesn't make much difference to me because the award is for them not for me to say "I'm playing a better product." I know which one is a better product, it'd be the one I'm playing. That's the way it goes for everyone out there.
It's really rediculous for either side of the fence to be harping at one another about who's game is better. HTC staff worked on and built WarBirds. So to say the current WarBirds is worse than Aces High is redundant. Same for someone playing WBs to say that AH is some how inferior. The same developement team that built WB is now building AH, I have yet to understand how it can in anyway be inferior than it's predecessor. Afterall, that's what WB2.xx is.. it's AH's predecessor. If you think otherwise, you are very mistaken. iEN's programming magic I have yet to see, so my faith in WB3 is nil right now. Screenshots look nice, but all WB3 is going to be is a facelift while leaving the same underlying code that HiTech & his band of mega-dweebs( ;-) ) wrote several years ago. Dogfighter's award for WB should be directed to Hitech and his current band of goonies at HTC, which incidently worked on WB, and the other staff members HT worked with before the split. Afterall, it was they who wrote the code that the WBers are playing on.
AH and WB are the same, but they are different and making an attempt to convince the next person which one is better is just as futile as trying to wipe your bellybutton with a pine cone. It's annoying, hurts like all hell and you'll still have klingons circling uranus.
Anyways, that's just my opinion and you don't have to agree with it.
-SW
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Spoons....ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you sleep at night knowing that Battle of Britain was picked as the runner-up to flight sim of the year. Oh geez, I almost fell out of my chair after reading that one. Tell me, exactly how much is Rowan paying you? That game was the absolute worst PIECE OF SHAT I have ever played. B17 was clearly better than it and even that was a let down.
BTW, if you were wondering about whether or not to get Battle of Britain, in my professional opinion it's the worst WW2 sim I've ever played...all I can recommend it for is the nice footage they have from gun cams. Otherwise it's total crap. The graphics are so dated and ugly and unpolished that I couldn't believe it.
Frosty out.
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EDIT: Oh and do not get me started on the Best Hardware of 2000, oh geez, looks like someone might have been paid...having benched several Geforce 2's against a V5...bah, nevermind.
EDIT #2: I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but WTFG HTC, you guys definitely deserved that award. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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[This message has been edited by Frosty1 (edited 01-05-2001).]
[This message has been edited by Frosty1 (edited 01-05-2001).]
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Congrats to HT and the gang. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
finn
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(Spoons comes downstairs in his 3dfx bathrobe, sits in his promotional Rowan's Battle of Britain chair, uses his 3dfx mousepad, and reads this thread, all the while looking at the pile of crisp $100s that Rowan has provided, which I'm using to light my 3dfx promotional cigars)
NOTE TO AUDIENCE: That's sarcasm. No $100s were hurt in the making of this post.
Frosty, tell me my writing sucks, tell me my personality sucks, tell me I wouldn't know a good flight sim from a dead Emu, but don't ever tell me I'm paid off. Otherwise, thanks for your insightful comments....duly noted.
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
[This message has been edited by Spoons - SimHQ (edited 01-06-2001).]
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WTG HTC and AH.
they did their task in 2 years..other needed
much more time.
BTW,
the WB community concratulates AH too, on AGW...even HOTSEAT.
wastel(wb) aka HABICHT(AH)
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Spoons, the paid part was sarcasm on my part, but it seems that it got mixed in with my anger. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Hope it wasn't _that_ bad.
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===>Frosty
====>Exposure2k.com
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Fuggedaboutit. I probably just took it wrong. Truce.
(animated bluebirds fly around in the background.....calm is restored to the world (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ).
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John Sponauer
Senior Editor, SimHQ.com
jsponauer@simhq.com
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We all love happy endings. Group hug guys...guys why are you looking at me that way...? (http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/big/eek3.gif)
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====>Exposure2k.com
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