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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: brady on July 10, 2004, 09:21:48 PM
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Kawasaki Ki-100 Goshikisen
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And Japs from Jersey and Joplin.
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psst .. arlo, yer not allowed to say 'jap'. One of my squad members was banned for that, so prepare to be banned........
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Sure .... I'll give it a year then breathe again. ;) :D
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Ki-100, it is:)
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Ya, the "J__" word is not cool, although many use it still, kinda like the "N" word imo, not somthing I care to make use of, any way back to the regulary schedualed proframing, Nothing personal Arlo, generaly you crack me up.:)
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Hey Skernsk bet your working hard this summer ehh?, you get WiTP yet?, Has Daddog, or Cup?
Email me @: bradys5@hotmail.com
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i dont know why.. i have a japanese friend and he says its acceptable..
after all im british... also get called a brit
sigular of japanese is what ?
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That is what I thought. I guess it all depends on what context you use it in. I got an online buddy that says it is not considered derogatory. :confused:
LTARsqrl
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General consinious on other forums is that is considered deragatory, since it was used in that context during the war, and by those from that generation, the term "Jap" is a racest slur, used well before the war in such a maner and intensifed in it's use and negativaty during the war by Govement propaganda.
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Japs Jap Japanese Japan i don't see the offence.
call me dutch ducthy dutchman or what ever i'm born there.
can i say Jappy than?
is it the same as calling u yanks or yankees ?
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It's unacceptable because of it getting blown out of proportion by NON-Japs .... this thread being a wonderful example. :D
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How about "Yanks?" Is that a bad word? :p
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Being constantly labeled a canuck by my fellow Americans, I beg to offer some solice to those who think some country id terms are all slang... it's in the context.
"Hey, I heard Forskter's a Canuck." That's a country identifier.
"Forks' just a canuck". It's a negative connotation, that will ususally get a nasty glare.
"Stupid canuck" in a bar will get the shirt/jacket-pulled-over-your-head hockey fight style. :D
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Understand the context, but still illogical for any truncation of an acceptable official name to be considered derogatory.
Then again, Amers isn't very appealing.
Germans probably wouldn't want to be called Germs.
Or Brazilians Bras.
Or Chileans Chils.
Or New Zealanders Zeals.
Or Canadians Cans.
Or Chinese Chins.
Safe thing is to call people what they call themselves. And then smile when ya say that, pardner.
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Don't speak Japanese.
Japs. :D
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How many times have you said "Jap" in this thread Arlo....the black helicopters are en route man ...TAKE COVER!!!
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Are they Jap black helos? :D
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som time ago on this BB one of JPN members ask for not use "japs" as abusive word for his nation.
For him it was like call black men a niger or something.
Arlo can you respect this?
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Send him in and we'll discuss it. Until then, I don't really take your being offended for him in proxy too seriously. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Send him in and we'll discuss it. Until then, I don't really take your being offended for him in proxy too seriously. :D
Arlo, send me an email. I will keep this off the BBS.
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And you wonder why the rest of the world hates americans?
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Seems only people with a political agenda and time on their hands are offended by "japs". I said it on ch.1 a while back and got a few guys P.M. me. ...... I said "oh I'm sorry ....are you japanese? " .......... "well.. no...but Im sure they are offended" Words are insults depending on the context.
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"And you wonder why the rest of the world hates americans?"
What the heck is that supposed to mean?
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Ya, the "J__" word is not cool, although many use it still, kinda like the "N" word imo, not somthing I care to make use of, any way back to the regulary schedualed proframing, Nothing personal Arlo, generaly you crack me up.
BS. And Skuzzy can ban me again. It's just a shortened term for "Japanese." If you want to invent things and compare it to being the same as that N-word then you are doing so much disservice to what black people have suffered. So the shortened derivation "Jap" was popular before and then during WW2, it was never created as an insult. Heck, look at the Olympics years past and tell me what three letters were used for Japan. "Brit" is short for British, "Tex" is short for Texan and "Jap" is short for Japanese. Get over it. "KFC" is now the acronym for Kentucky Fried Chicken... it's just how language works. We try naturally try to shorten words.
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Safe thing is to call people what they call themselves. And then smile when ya say that, pardner.
Nips? Now tell me you wouldn't smile saying that.
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Originally posted by FDutchmn
Arlo, send me an email. I will keep this off the BBS.
Are you the supposed player in question that's upset over the casual use of the word "Jap" in any context whatsoever?
If you want me to send you an email then I need your email addy other than that, I see no reason why it can't be discussed in public. :)
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Well if you want to say I have a yeb (yellow eyed batard) or a slant at 3 o'clock, then that would be called racist.
There is a simular discussion going on over at UBI right now.
BTW, JAP is a single cylinder motorcycle engine.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Are you the supposed player in question that's upset over the casual use of the word "Jap" in any context whatsoever?
If you want me to send you an email then I need your email addy other than that, I see no reason why it can't be discussed in public. :)
Arlo, the address is in my profile. You can send me a message from there.
The topic has been discussed before, therefore I'd rather not re-open the issue for myself as it provokes emotions which I'd rather not display in public again. I am offering you an offline discussion
Originally posted by Puke ver. 2
look at the Olympics years past and tell me what three letters were used for Japan.
BTW, the abbreviation for Japan in the Olympics is JPN according to the International Standards Organization.
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btw, let's not highjack this thread.
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"KFC" is now the acronym for Kentucky Fried Chicken
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No it isn't. That's the actual name of the chain now.
Some years ago greedy politicans in the Commonwealth of Kentucky decided to trademark their name so as to force everyone using it to pay royalties.
Instead of bowing to such an unreasonable request, the fast-food chain formally changed its name as a matter of protest--thus giving up a name it had been using for several decades.
For this same reason the Kentucky Dery horse race is called "The Run for the Roses" now.
In one of the few cases of people getting their just deserts, all the greedy politicans of Kentucky succeeded in doing was permanently removing its name from the national scene.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Being constantly labeled a canuck by my fellow Americans, I beg to offer some solice to those who think some country id terms are all slang... it's in the context.
"Hey, I heard Forskter's a Canuck." That's a country identifier.
"Forks' just a canuck". It's a negative connotation, that will ususally get a nasty glare.
"Stupid canuck" in a bar will get the shirt/jacket-pulled-over-your-head hockey fight style. :D
What if I called you a [SIZE=8]kay-becker[/SIZE] :D
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Nips? Now tell me you wouldn't smile saying that.
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That's a truncation of Nipponese, i.e., Japanese.
In a war, opponents are often called derogatory terms.
Even then, truncated abbreviations of longer legitimate terms are probably the least offensive.
In peacetime, makes no sense to call anyone anything they don't like.
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Why does it make sense to call someone something they don't like in war? Well. Unless you're fostering hate, which has been done. Personally I'd rather kill the poor bastard and go home; no time to hate him, too.
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Originally posted by Puck
What if I called you a [SIZE=8]kay-becker[/SIZE] :D
Now that is an insult, since Fork is from Alberta.;)
Sorry that should be Mister Fork. Must stop that abreviating of names.:rolleyes: :p
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Point of order. Not a single person in this thread has been actually singled out and called a "Jap", "Kraut", "Nip", "Yank", "Wank", "Ruskie", "Commie", "Canuck", "Chowderhead", "Poopyhead, "Jerry", "Imperialist pig" or "Gay Supremacist." So far. :D
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Originally posted by FDutchmn
Arlo, the address is in my profile. You can send me a message from there.
The topic has been discussed before, therefore I'd rather not re-open the issue for myself as it provokes emotions which I'd rather not display in public again. I am offering you an offline discussion
BTW, the abbreviation for Japan in the Olympics is JPN according to the International Standards Organization.
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btw, let's not highjack this thread.
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How do I pronounce "JPN" as a word? :)
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Arlo you are a... Jap, a Kraut a Nip a Yank a Wank a Ruskie a Commie a Canuck a Chowderhead a Poopyhead a Jerry an Imperialist pig a Gay Supremacist and a women's rights activist. Not to mention you voted for gore.
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I'd be offended if I wasn't laughing so hard. :lol
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Originally posted by Arlo
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should be enabled now, sorry about that.
gentlemen, this is a "name this..." thread. topic being discussed now is waay out of scope!
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looks like ki-100 with P-39 or P-63 painted on side.
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And a stapler superglued to the fuselage.
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no, thats just a JPNinian.. a JPNun... a JPNer.... a JPNana...... pointing to the side of the fuselage. i know they are small, but how can you confuse him with a stapler?
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"Touch it."
"Ok, I'll touch it."
"You're not touching it yet."
"I'll touch it! I'll touch it!"
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many many men died fighting a war they didnt want so that arlo can abreviate japanese in what ever way he wants.
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I'd never heard the reason why KFC changed its name, that's quite interesting. Still, KFC stands for you-know-what.
I'm really stumped as to the passions of this one little abbreviated word. That's all it is, an abbreviation. But if we want to go overboard with the PC, we need to call "Americans"...oops, "US citizens" what they correctly are too. Also, try and type the word with the correct tone or inflection because people have really become quite sensitive and we don't want anyone crying on the BBS. America is a continent and "Americans" cover quite a lot of peoples from varying countries. So since we all have to be so formal and afraid of everyone's feelings, we need to be clear in that it's USN/USAF/USMC for a reason and substitute the often used "American" with "US citizen" or "US warplane." Woops, "US" is an acronym and we can clearly see how people get ticked off by not being so formal so it has to be "United States citizen" or "United States warplane." I would think it fair that all plane-sets or campaigns are correct and messages on the BBS heretofore show proper respect. I know this is silly, but I also think this entire thing is ridiculous. "Jap" is an abbreviation and no more. But I'll be watching!
However, I did learn today that Yankee is actually and originally a derogatory term. According to my dictionary, it was originally a derogatory term for Hollanders and Dutch and later the Dutch in New York started calling English settlers in Connecticut "Yankees" as a derogatory term. So there you have it, it actually is a bad no-no wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap word and the hammer should fall swift and heavy on anyone who uses it. In contrast, "Jap" is just an abbreviation. Uh ohh, now I know I can't go to the AH Con...Yankee is gonna beat me up!
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You could put a period after "Jap." if you wanted to use it as an abbreviation...
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I was told I can't say Jap. (period)
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owever, I did learn today that Yankee is actually and originally a derogatory term. According to my dictionary, it was originally a derogatory term for Hollanders and Dutch and later the Dutch in New York started calling English settlers in Connecticut "Yankees" as a derogatory term. So there you have it, it actually is a bad no-no wash-your-mouth-out-with-soap word and the hammer should fall swift and heavy on anyone who uses it. In contrast, "Jap" is just an abbreviation. Uh ohh, now I know I can't go to the AH Con...Yankee is gonna beat me up!
USA history starts in europe sometimes it's forgotten.
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My favorite part of this thread beyond the "Name This" is how it moved from Racism to fried chicken. Thats why I love the BBS :D
Personally I'm from Illinois, and instead of Illinoisian, I prefer "Redneck" :aok
I look forward to shooting down some kraut, jap, ruskie, brit, and yank planes tonight online. When the civil rights discussion is over, you guys are free to come online and we can all shoot the crap out of each other and watch some Fox News in the process :aok
Have a good one everybody!
--Mike/Howitzer
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Originally posted by Howitzer
Personally I'm from Illinois, and instead of Illinoisian,
you are a FIB
or to be nice Flatlander
hehehehhehehe
that from a admitted Cheesehead
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This has to be the longest name this thread I have ever seen.
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(continuing the hijack)
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America is a continent and "Americans" cover quite a lot of peoples from varying countries. So since we all have to be so formal and afraid of everyone's feelings, we need to be clear in that it's USN/USAF/USMC for a reason and substitute the often used "American" with "US citizen" or "US warplane."
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True, in the sense there are Asians and Africans and Europeans and Australians (dual continent/country) and Americans in the more specific sense of North Americans and South Americans and Antarcticans in the sense of penguins.
But unless there are other nations with "America" in their name, the only Americans based on national name come from the United States of America. It's really USA, not just U.S.
Fun to see official entire names of nations, e.g.,
United States of America
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Kingdom of Belgium
Canada
Republic of Finland
French Republic
Principality of Monaco
Union of Myanmar
Sultanate of Oman
State of Qatar
Most Serene Republic of San Marino
Swiss Confederation
Russian Federation
Federal Republic of Germany
Japan ...
and that's where the thread got hijacked (taking fingerprints)....
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Originally posted by Arlo
How do I pronounce "JPN" as a word? :)
It is pronounced "Jap".... :D
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Thank god I 'm from TEXAS :D you can call us Sir.
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I believe anyone who fought and indured the savagery of the military person from japan in ww2 has a right to call the military person from japan anything he or she wants.The rest of us maybe should call them what they want to be called within reason.But not put down just saying jap.If this skuzzy tried or did ban a ww2 vet for saying jap at least without several warnings.I would like to personally like to track him if it is a him down and kick his butt or at least try.So far as the rest of us goes if skuzzy is part of the mangement of ah than guess he has a right to do what he wants.