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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: HABICHT on November 26, 2000, 03:56:00 PM
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...but we will meet in WW2OL.
HAbicht out
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and the beat goes on...
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Cya Habicht, <S>. Too bad to see an old hand leaving. Hope to cya soon.
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GATT
4° Stormo Caccia - Knights (http://www.4stormo.it)
Macchi C.202's sting (1,9MByte film) (http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/breda.avi)
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Yeah we know you left RAM...so you keep reminding us. Do you have to keep horning in on other people's grand exits though?...very poor taste. Maybe start your own thread once a week, just to make sure nobody forgets. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
bowser
[This message has been edited by bowser (edited 11-26-2000).]
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)(((
hab, making post in squad forum (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
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System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif), cya Squaddie.
Maik
P.S.: shuddup Bowser
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<S> Habicht. Hope WWIIOL lives up to yer expectations, and that you don't have TOO long a wait (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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See you in WWIIOL, squaddie.
Hals und Beinbruch !
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Cheerio... no doubt you'll see many AH people in WW2OL
Regards
'Nexx'
PS RAM, what are you trying to prove??? You're just making yourself look a bigger fool than what you are! Don't be silly! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Replicant:
You're just making yourself look a bigger fool than what you are!
If to remark that many people are leaving AH because bassically the same reason (Boooring MA with always same old nikhog story,etc etc etc) is to make myself look a fool.
Then damned fool I am. If I see the emperor nude I SAY it is nude. I dont insist in calling great a thing that it isnt.
So, call me restless fool (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) I dont mind (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Cya Hab! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Hopefully WW2Online will stand up to all our expectations... See you there or in another sim where JG54 will reassemble!
<S>
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note: I have to agree with RAM that we can see an ongoing trend here...
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RAM
You cant be that thick. Of the 5 guys that have left you keep assuming it because of AH FM or some rediculous thing like that. ! of them is allready back under another handle, some left because of money prob and others have been accepted as beta testers in other Sims.
So why you keep comin back here and insisting its because of the FM or HOing.
You have left because you consistantly whine about everything, you never post any positive. So please, if your gona go, bloody well go. You have know idea why some of these guys left .
Let the other 300 of us enjoy the damn Sim.
Dog out..........
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RAM, please go away. You had nothing positive to contribute to the game before, and even less now. Your infantile posts with excessive and annoying smilies just cause us to doubt your maturity, if that is anyone thought you had any.
Go play quake.
Dago
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Originally posted by Wardog:
You have left because you consistantly whine about everything, you never post any positive. So please, if your gona go, bloody well go. You have know idea why some of these guys left .
Curious, that most of the things I have done pro-AH have never been in the forums. I agree on that.
Wardog I'd like to know how many non-squaddies have you helped in the TA With no trainer title, of course. FYI I have lost the count of the ones I helped .Dozens.
I'd like to know how many times you have left the MA because someone was asking for help and there were no trainers online (or ,ahem, the ones there were said nothing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ). I lost the count, too.
I'd like to know,too, how many people have you told about AH, and how many of them have stayed after testing it. I can tell you about 5 of the first and 2 of the latter, where my intervention has been decisive.And a lot more already knew about AH and I told them good things about AH.
Heck yesterday I was talking with a friend of mine and I was giving him good references of AH!
I'd like to know all of that, and I'd like to know, too, if you think that to put what I think in the boards is a capital crime. Because most people seem to think it here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
I'd like to know, too, if you think that to disagree with the general way of thinking is always a whine.
But, of course I never did anything in favor of AH. No, that is crap, utterly crap, because I dare to say what I think on the forums. You are an example for all the rest, I am a crap because I say what I see. You know what?-------------> LOL!.
Turns out that, maybe (only maybe) I could have done more things proAH than you.
Happens, that I think that the board is not only to hug each other discussing what a great sim and what impressive FM the niki has. We can do that online (and I use to do it)
I always took the forum as a place to talk, and to remark the things we think need a good bit of work.
Happens, too, that most of the people here take any critic as a whine. I remember people as Lazs (as bad as I think about him) , F4UDOA etc etc etc, to claim and yell that the pre 1.03 FM needed a lot of work in turning things. 80% of the community (including me, and that made me think a lot about it) flamed them nonstop for DARING to say that AH FM had a problem.
You know what? they were right (not so lazs with his ridiculous statements about Fw190 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) J/K). But before 1.04 EVERYONE rejoiced and was happy with our accurate and realistic FM...Still, I never heard nor read a single word of apology towards those who fought against all of us...and where right. (yes I liked way more 1.03's FM. But turns out that this one is more realistic and I salute them for making AH a more realistic sim).
Ohh, and please stop the flame before throwing it...I dont pretend to play the prophet here...I have no idea on how did a real n1K2 fly...but still I say the FM of the N1K and Hog are screwed, not because I have any data on their RL counterparts, but because I FEEL it by what I see. I DARE[/b] to say that something in AH can be WRONG...ooohhhh...burn me in the fire ,please, for I have sinned. I have said that I think the AH¡s FM is porked...I am a WHINER!!! (ouch I wont sleep tonite).
I left AH because the boring MA. I can get over UFO FMs, but I cant get over seeing the same picture day after day...that is N1ks n1ks and more n1ks. And all for 30$ while the guys I met in the IRC are paying 15$ or even 10$.
Look, I dont know wich motives can have Pongo, zigrat or mitsu to go. I know why gatt went out (lack of early models, and boring MA), I know why Habicht go (more or less same) and I know why did I go (do I need to repeat it?)...
I know at least...let me count...7 other people who are thinking on doing the same and only are waiting to 1.05 to see if the N1K2 gets fixed once at all. And I know at least 10 that if the price doesnt change will go.
AS I said, I am the only one who, if I see the emperor nude I tell it. If you all like to say BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, I wont be a sheep because most are sheep.
In few words: few people like to see critizism in this board and regard any of that as a whine. He who dares to critice more than one thing/month is credited with the "official AH whiner", and its treated accordingly.
And now I ask you, who is the mature here?...the one who says what he thinks or the one who shuts up and says BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH when all the other sheep say BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
Of course I admit that my behavior online has been sometimes too strong for what it should be acceptable. My personal "problem" with Renfield was known all around the glove,for instance. I'm not proud of that, but ,yes, that is a part of RAM too. The hot blood and the deep immersion that I felt and made me love AH. That's RAM, a passionate player.
And I can't go against what I am.Mostly because, in fact, and in the end, I am proud of the person I am and all I have achieved in only 9 months online.
And now flame me ...I dont mind (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Dago... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I dont play quake (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[edit]Yes, I know that this post is long ,ironic, and with a bitter taste. But, really ,some people here **REALLY** have no idea on what are they talking about[/edit]
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-26-2000).]
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I'm waiting for my copy of B17II to arrive at my home so I can indulge myself into it, despite it's bugs and probably poor performance on my system. No matter, RAM is right though.. in that the MA is getting a little on the repetitive, dare I say boring?
No, I don't know what we can do to make it more interesting.. well I have ideas but they would be shot away in an instant.
AH is/was and can be fun, but there simply isn't enough variety to keep some/most of us entertained to a euphoric extent. Adding more planes obviously doesn't add variety.. some planes simply won't be flown unless they have a competitve edge in a few departments.
Anyway, I think you people are being a little hard on RAM. Afterall we're dealing with a g'damn computer, not real world so some planes if not all are invariably off from their real world counterparts. ANd since we aren't restricted to the country we would fly for, we can grab the easiest plane to fly if we like, or the hardest. Who cares, right?
-SW
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*thump* *thump* *thump* *thump*
Hang sits with his back against a tree, a pile of empty beer cans spread at his feet. A short distance away a former pilot is slowly and methodicly pounding his head against the ready rooms closed door.
*thump* *thump* *thump* thump* *thump*
Occasionaly, someone opens the ready room's front window, leans out to see who's making the dull monotonus noise upon the door.. and when they see the source, they laff and close the window again.
*thump* *thump* *thump* thump* *thump*
An FDB passes by; spies the beer; then spots Hang, wanders over and liberates one owed on a bet. "How long now??" inquires Mason22. Hang looks at the calander nailed to the tree, and back at the spreading pile of empties. "Dunno. Longer than I thought, but apparently not long enuff."
*thump* *thump* *thump* thump* *thump*
Mason smiles. Takes a long pull; adds the empty to the prodigious pile. "Think he'll fold soon??" Hang grimmaces. Shakes his head sadly. "Nope. Not till his head flattens out or the door collapses."
*thump* *thump* *thump* thump* *thump*
Mason chuckles and snags another cold one from the cooler, pops the top and bends his elbow. Hang watches with unabashed envy.. "Mason, thats magic.. the way every time that elbow bends, yer mouth just falls right open... do me a favor will yah??" Mason, burps with feeling, tosses the debris into the pile. "Sure, Hang; name it."
*thump* *thump* *thump* thump* *thump*
"Show RAM where the fediddlein door knob is."
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Now now Hang, no matter how funny that is.. it's still wrong and you know it!! :-)
Aw hell, with this crap everyday we need a little comic relief. :-)
-SW
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...and the beat goes on...
*snicker*
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Try out the h2h.
Its free and its fast paced.
Sry to see you go good luck in life.
EYE
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Well said AKSeaWulfe, some of you guys should always remember english is RAM`s 2nd language and take into account his posts may *sound* like whining due to this. He makes some good points too IMO. Does he piss me off at times....absolutely-but I also know he`s a good stick,calls six if at all possible,and is a great guy to have on your wing.My highest scoring sorties ever were winging with him in JG2 and I never worried about my six when he was there. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Habicht,I hope you will keep up with AH updates,1.05 is right around the corner.
Based on the past I`m confident HTC will refine the FM as the game progresses,I`m surprised at how well *most* of the planes perform in relation to each other after such a drastic change in the FM.
<S>
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i love ram , he says what he wants . right or wrong . hes got nuts and loves realistic flight sims . the game is feelin wacky to alot of people . mayby they will fix it . assumin its broke .
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2486 times you have gave us your negative opinion, please RAM, just let it go, get involved with real life.
ammo
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Why don't all you whining amazinhunkS just leave(quietly) go get your diapers changed. AH is better off without you.
Ram I was there the day you ranted over channel 1 about the Typhoon what a dork, cork your friggin toilet. The only thing bigger than your mouth is your ego.
I'm proud of the HTC crew for AH. They must be shaking their heads like a parent does when dealing with an ungrateful brat child.
BTW RAM 5-6 ppl left and 30-40 newbies arrive so what's your point other than feeling sorry for yourself.
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BTW RAM 5-6 ppl left and 30-40 newbies arrive so what's your point other than feeling sorry for yourself.
And I wonder how many of those newbies will stay.
Once upon a time there was a squad in AH that had 40 members.
Now it's 1.
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Gentlemen, please ....
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GATT
4° Stormo Caccia - Knights (http://www.4stormo.it)
Macchi C.202's sting (1,9MByte film) (http://web.tiscalinet.it/gatt/breda.avi)
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Originally posted by Torque:
Why don't all you whining amazinhunkS just leave(quietly) go get your diapers changed. AH is better off without you.
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Torque you are lovely (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
BTW that day I wasnt talking about tiffie's FM. I was saying that the reduction of the torque had made the tiffie a ridiculously easy plane to fly. A plane that in R.L. used to crash against the hangars of the airfields because the rudder couldnt overcome the torque, now feels like a P47 regarding torque.
And few people won't agree in this board, even if that means agreeing with the Official AH Whiner (tm) RAM, That torque has suffered a serious turning down last version, beyond what it can be seen as realistic (Still have to see tiffies yawing hard to the right on takeoffs (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ).
You say that 40 newbies are in the place of the people who has gone. And that AH gets better without the people who has left . I will tell you something:
1-Most of those newbies are paying less than you. Some 20$, some 15$, and some, yes, 10$. So economically, those 40 newbies will be more or less like 20 for HTC's economy, while the people fleeing are full-rate 30$ paying customers.
2-Most of those newbies are HO-lovers right now. We all know you use HO as a mortal weapon, but many of that people use HO as a way of life.
3-Most of those newbies will fly the Dweeb-plane-o-week. In this case of the version. THat meanse an average of 20-30 more Nikis online.
4-All the guys are leaving are experienced sticks with good ACM knowledge. Look at Gatt. Heck, look at Habicht, he is (was) one of the best and most effective pilots in AH. That means that you lose the chance to get good fites in the MA. With that lose, the MA will be even more boring and eventually more people will leave. An exodus that in fact could be easily stopped.
5-In short: The newbies probably would be here anyway without the problems that have made so many of us go away...(paying less, heck, why not?). So, in fact you win what you would've won anyway, and you lose much more than what you get (if you want to see good fights online, that's it).
Regarding my ego...Look Who's talking (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif). Anyway, I don't think I have bigger ego than any other on this sim. But happens that when I feel bad about something I say it. That includes to die in some weird ways, if you follow me. Others get a firm grip and make force with the teeth and say nothing.
We all have big egos here, not only me. So, well, maybe in that way you are right (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang...as always ,very funny (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Yes, sometimes I feel like I'm thumping my head against a wall, and sometimes that depressed me a bit.
Not so now...Seems that most people here doesnt understand that I, over any other consideration, love AH and want the best for it.
ANd seeing all those experienced sticks fleeing is of course, not the best for AH.
Jihad...you are right, there have been times I've been mistook because of my poor english. Some other times not. But my english tends to sound way more harsh that what I intend to be (Was talking about just this the other day by E-mail with a good friend of mine who reads this BBS), and that leads people to answer in harsh ways.
There is little I can do about it, apart of trying to improve my english. But truth is that sometimes I have been completely mistook due my english.
Many others not, but,well that's another story (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) <<S>>
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 11-27-2000).]
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Funny toejam man....funny toejam.
Yeager
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Base on one squad your point is what Jek?
How many squads have grown
Ya don't like it leave, cork it and leave don't stand at the door whining just leave leave leave leave.
Being Xmas time now I really don't have the money for AH $45 CDN but I'm not leaving or whining.
HTC needs all the support they can get and I'm gonna give them all I can!
Ya don't like AH go round up some venture capital and start your own Flight-Sim Buh Bye!
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No Ram the day I'm taking about was the day a Typhoon kill you when you were on it's six. Ya ranting for a good while on channel 1 and then I saw the big "I quit" post on BB. The internet plays many funny things but yet you seem to rant about every little one. Me I take it with a grain of salt and replane and I don't whine over common channel and come to BB the state I quit like a dorknut.
This exodus you talk about Ram is what 5-6 out of what 1000 subs oh geeze the sky is falling. These Hoing newbies you talk about that was me when I first started. The other point about good sticks leaving well I see new ones that excel in ACM very fast give them a few month they'll hold there own against any of these that have left. I think your making a lot out of nothing, your an hysteric and you need the attention.
Just like when HT had that recent family tragedy and you try to up it by posting the stupid tidbit about that other tragedy. That explains your whole stupid problem which is your fragile ego and big mouth.
Anyhow you've waisted enough of my time and are a big repetitive YAWN
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 11-27-2000).]
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Yes, Rip is right. Too bad to spoil Habicht's goodbye. <S> again and come back!
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 11-27-2000).]
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ROTFLMAO Hang that one is a classic !
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Cya Habicht! Sorry someone had to spoil your good-bye thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) <S>
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not sure i got that.... did the ol head butter just apolodgize to me? BTW.. what have I ever said about the 190 that was false or athe very least... not amusing.
torque i know of a few new squads that are doing ok. I agree with ya... leave quietly... it makes your coming back so much less embarassing.
lazs
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<S> Hacicht, ill be there, here too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
to the rest off you whiners (http://www.favewavs.com/misc/mad.wav)
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Originally posted by Torque:
Just like when HT had that recent family tragedy and you try to up it by posting the stupid tidbit about that other tragedy. That explains your whole stupid problem which is your fragile ego and big mouth.
I wont waste any time in answering your other words, but this one MUST be answered...
the "stupid tidbit about that other tragedy" was a bus accident where 25 kids of ages ranging from 12 to 19 were killed in an accident. Spain as a whole was shattered, and our queen herself went to the offices for the souls of the dead kids, to give any comfort she could to the people who had just lost their children.
If you are so stupid to base your arguments on such a big tragedy (and a disfortunate conicidence with HT's tragedy, that I didnt notice on the time and so I edited my post), then you dont deserve any more time from me nor any other in this forum.
To play with 25 Kids' deaths only for an argument...such a bastard...<SIGH>
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ROFLMAO! Hahahahaha. Hang you kill me.
And the beat goes on. hahahahahahaha.
Lephturn posts a sign over on the wall with a target on it and the words "Bang head here" for RAM's benefit.
Hey, now he'll move to the wall and we can get back into the ready room guys. I've got a fresh keg tapped. <G>
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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
(http://tuweb.ucis.dal.ca/~dconrad/ahf/lepht.gif)
"My P-47 is a pretty good ship, she took a round coming 'cross the Channel last trip.
Just thinking 'bout my baby and lettin' her rip, always got me through so far."
- Steve Earl
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Originally posted by -lazs-:
not sure i got that.... did the ol head butter just apolodgize to me? BTW.. what have I ever said about the 190 that was false or athe very least... not amusing.
I remember when F4UDOA and you were insisting that the planes in 1.03 were turning way less than they should. I remember me making jokes at you for stating such a "ridiculous" thing.
I remember my face and feeling when Pyro admited that the FM had a serious problem regarding E retention in turns.
So, yes, in a way that is an apology. You were right and I yelled BAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH with the rest of the sheep on that one.
BTW the 190 thing is a joke about your statement that the A5 in 1.03 had the same FM as in the 1.04... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) you could be right about the FMs in 1.03...but not about the A5 in 1.03-1.04 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I can't wait for WWII online and WBIII to get going. Then these quitters will all take their whiney arses there and free up our forum for meaningful dialogue. I will avoid both of the above mentioned sims until they have whined their whines over there and are back here. It's all a matter of timing.
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GronK
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Some flying buddies and I were just talking about when RAM might show up again. He certainly knows how to raise some hackles.
We thought he might actually be flying under a different name.....
Sour
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Well, RAM you finally had left, and thats great. If you decide to come back, well, that's great too.
As far as ww2online is concerned, if you knew the true mindset of the developers there, you wouldn't even be wasting your time with it. In time, you will understand what I just said.
In the meantime, if you don't have anything nice to say, well, be quiet pls.
Hab....
Hope you find true happiness somewhere else...doubt that you will, but give it a go! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ice
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well, 70% of the post here are 1 reason i went out.
hab
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Hab...
Now that reason I can fully understand and appreciate. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
You shouldn't leave tho...just don't read the fodder and squelch 1 when flying...it is liberating (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cyas!
Ice
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Originally posted by Ice:
Hab...
You shouldn't leave tho...just don't read the fodder and squelch 1 when flying...it is liberating (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cyas!
Ice
Bingo, we have a winner. Listening is not required when flying AH (except within squadron)
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Cya Hab <S>
What A buncha butteren losers.
[This message has been edited by JoeMud (edited 11-27-2000).]
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Cya hab ,
try WW2 + come back if you like
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
blitz
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Oh no! another RAM thread!!!!!
It was supossed this guy has LEFT?.
RAM you are overmodeled.
Tune down yourself a bite pls.
AND GO AWAY AT LAST!!!!!
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Ram is a celebrity
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pauka pauka, Habicht (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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BTW sorry HAB l8tr.
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Lordy how I miss kill files.
Cya Hab.