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Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Hans on November 26, 2000, 08:35:00 PM

Ok, the Germans invented the Finger Four formation of flying.

However, their standard squadron size is nine aircraft.

What gives?  The squadron leader is flying alone with two flights behind him?

Hans.

Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Wingnut_0 on November 26, 2000, 08:39:00 PM

where'd u get 9 AC at?  Standard size was 12 AC.  Now all throughout the war with AC availibility and such they could of been forced to fly a different number but otherwise no.



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Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: eagl on November 26, 2000, 08:48:00 PM

Maybe the 9th was bait?



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Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 26, 2000, 09:29:00 PM

just FYI...

A Geschwader usually consists of 150-200 aircraft.

Then it is split up into 3 or 4 Gruppe of 35-40 aircraft.

Each Gruppe is broken down into 3 Staffel of 12 aircraft.

A Staffel contains 3 Schwarms of 4 aircraft each.

Each schwarm is then devided into 2 Rotte of 2 aircraft each. (Rottenfuherer and wingman)

Added to the Gruppe is a Stab (Staff flight)

Also, each Gruppe consists of 3 Staffel and the staffel number starts with the first Gruppe (example I Gruppe of JG 54 would contain 1, 2 and 3 Staffel.  III/JG 54 would contain 7, 8 and 9 Staffel)
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Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Westy on November 27, 2000, 08:18:00 AM

 Is the ninth intended as an auxillary or spare aircraft? No squadron, in any airforce, ever found themselves with "100% available for combat use" aircraft at any time.

-Westy

Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: fats on November 27, 2000, 04:13:00 PM

..ahem.. it's the Finns who invented finger four.

Theoretical staffel strength was from 12 to 16 later in the war.


// fats

Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Staga on November 29, 2000, 05:32:00 PM

I was looking some "old" AH pics when I found this.

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Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: hblair on November 30, 2000, 11:25:00 AM

Nice pic, wrong plane though!

Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: juzz on November 30, 2000, 11:34:00 AM

"..ahem.. it's the Finns who invented finger four."

Care to elaborate on that fats?

Title: If the Germans fly the "finger four"...why 9 AC per squadron?
Post by: Staga on November 30, 2000, 02:51:00 PM

 http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/FAFhist.htm (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fta/FAFhist.htm)