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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JG26-Ditch on July 13, 2004, 02:26:14 AM
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I used to play AW3 (in Big Pac full realism, SFRT then JG26 squadron flying for country B) a loooooong time ago. Had a blast with it. Won a few camps, met some awesome people, got killed way too many times... Ran into an old squad mate recently and after reminiscing about the good old days he recommended I check out Aces High.
Any AW vets here who could maybe give me a run down on how the two games are alike/different? Would appreciate much!
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I think about 99% of us have played AW.
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heh Well that answers my first question. :)
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The flight models are different. AH is not an arcade game like the AW RR arenas. More of a forgiving full reality. Lots more bells and whistles here, too.
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Nice to have you here JG26
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air warriors been gone for years how did u play after AH1 went down?
AIR WARRIORS--PJBOY
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Hey Ditch!!
I still remember those days with JG26 :)
Iko and Filth have joinmed here recently. And EYE was playing here last year and Gman.
I have been playing AH since AW dropped.
Lots of difference between AW and AH. Change was hard but now I got used to this game.
Give it a try...but be patience man.
Most of ex-JG26 are in Rooks team.
Nice to see you around DITCH (S)
ZAMO
¿What were your favorite rides in AW? FW190? Cant remember
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My friend has the cd of AW3
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Originally posted by jay1988
My friend has the cd of AW3
I have every version, except the DOS version,
Including 1.5
Anim
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welcome Ditch. ~S~
(AW handle>FTBS)
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Originally posted by jay1988
Holy Crap that game sucks.
If it wasn`t for AW you probably would not be here now. AW rocked for it`s time.
Considering your youth now, I suspect AW was a little over your head at the age you would have had to of been then.
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Hi Ditch! :) I played AW (FR and RR) from July 1998 until the end in December 2001. CPID was Flos, member of the Krait Squadron (famous for SAC) and played for Cland. Welcome to Aces High - I think you will recognise a lot of the names, though some may be changed slightly like mine. ;)
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Hi Ditch.
AH is; to all intents and purposes; AW4.
As in all updates; there's some pro's and cons.
Pro:
Much more stable software. Even as a new release; AH2 is less buggy than AWME was.
More features: Rockets; torpedo boats; more ground vehicles; moveable CV's; better vox and radio; beautifull clouds, terrain editor and films can be exported to AVI etc. etc.
Cons: Iffy help files; clumsy interface; poor comunity mangement and while a lot of training is done by some committed trainers there's nothing at all like AW's training cadre.
There's an active and commited events group; although events themselves don't have quite the same draw in AH that they did in AW.
Additionaly; while the planes seem to be modeled a bit more accurately in AH (depending on who you believe); the flight model is actually easier than AW FR was. There's a host of new things to get used to, such as torque and trim; but flying on the edge isn't the knife edge experience that AW FR was.
If/when you first log on; I think you'll be amazed how much better the software is than AW was; and appalled at the general behaviour. There's no AWARs around to keep things in check; and AH has never seemed to develop any ethos of it's own the way AW did. There's nothing quite so annoying as a whiney teenage voice blaring out your loudspeakers complete with obscenities about the american elections; and you can't turn it off!
Don't forget that there's a two week free trial; and even after your trial period; should you choose not to subscribe to the online arenas; the 8 player "head to head" version of the game is still free to access and play.
There's no offline element to AH as there was to AW; merely practise drones.
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Welcome, Ditch. I was "Oldma" in AW FR. I echo what Seeker says. Flight model is very close to what the last Beta we were sampling in AW ("Ultra," or something like that).
You'll like it here. Come visit us in the CT for what is probably the closest thing to the old FR Fightertown.
- oldman
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Yo Ditch! Many old AW players here.. From all sorts of times and places.. haha Been a long time man! Glad to see you again.. Hollar at me once you get here! 8)
kappa
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Many of us Ex-AirWarriors here. The AOL WidowMakers are alive and well flying with the Knights. Expect at least a six month learning curve in AH. You will find, (eventually) that AH surpasses AW in almost every way.
The major differance is of course community. The bond just isn't there. You will find many dis-respectful kids here (*cough*Jay) who will annoy you, but thank goodness AcesHigh has a squelch feature. (as in .squelch Jay1998)
What made AW special was the people in it. It didn't have the best graphics, or even the best flight model, but the PEOPLE made it special. To this day I refuse to purchase anything by ElectronicArts because they killed the dream. (sniff)
Welcome home. I am in the Training arena usually every day at odd times. Give me a shout and I will help you shake off the rust.
OH, and Jay, AW is older than you are. It was the FIRST online multi-player game of any size. All online multi-player games owe AW a dept of gratitude (you'll understand what that means someday hopefully) and AW helped shape ALL other WW2 sims.
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Ditch bud!
How ya been? I think the last I heard from you was about the time you got some promotion to Aid to the King or something :P
Good to see ya! Jag15 just joined too. Usually on around primetime. Rooks.
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Originally posted by flyingaround
OH, and Jet, AW is older than you are. It was the FIRST online multi-player game of any size. All online multi-player games owe AW a dept of gratitude (you'll understand what that means someday hopefully) and AW helped shape ALL other WW2 sims.
Pssssst! Jet hasn`t posted, that`s Jay. :D
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Agree. Probably 90% of us have an AW background.
Perhaps a better question would have been.
What was your AW Handles?
For me it was in order
qg123
PORNO
/IT\
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Pssssst! Jet hasn`t posted, that`s Jay. :D
LOL OMG i'm so sorry JetB! please accept my humble apology! All I looked at was the avatar!
(durn. off to edit my post)
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I played AWFR, I remember you I think. I was also Bz in AWFR from AOL to Gamestorm, until the bitter end....:mad: Most AWFR Bz are now Rooks in AH.
Zazen
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Ditch tons of AW people here. As said Filth is here now and iko and several just came over who used to be in the Mighty Fluff.
I was and 3747 in AW .. with the Nightmares VMF-898. They are the Nightmares VMF-101 here.
You will find several AW squads scattered about .. NightHawks, CAF, Flying Tigers AVG, DAMNED, etc., etc.
As for the differences. Well there is a lot and will take you a bit of time to get used to them but after a few weeks it is no big deal.
FM:
Flight Model is different but when I came over from AW FR I did not find it a massive change. AH2 probably a bit more of change since it models 8 points of contact/force/whatever you call it enacting on the plane as it flies. Unlike AW AH1/AH2 the planes do not act as they fly on rails and several of them actually suffer from engine torque pulling them to a specific side.
You can fly with combat trim on or you can turn it off and manually trim your plane. Didn't have trim in AW.
Probably the stall characteristics of the plane will take a bit of getting used too. Several of the planes are real beast when you get slow and push the envelope. F4Us and 190s tend to roll and flip on their backs for example.
Could right alot more .. but think this will be the easiest to adapt too.
GM:
Gunnery model is a whole different ball of wax here. The hit shell / area of a plane is very tight on the exact shape of the plane itself. It got a lot tighter from AH1 to AH2. Not sure if is now exactly the shape of the plane or not but is very tight (small).
Many people have found that they have to get within 350 yards to actually hit enemy planes. Very big difference from AW long range sniping. Couple this with having to set gun convergence and you really have something different. Basically you have to select convergence points for your guns. Which is the point where all the bullets from your various guns intersect. Hit an enemy closer or farther out from that convergence point and your grouping starts to spread out .. making it harder to take down an enemy plane since you are not putting all bullets on one spot.
Also several of the guns are not as accurate as others .. 20 mm Hispanos are very accurate and produce tight groupings. Several of the German cannons are not very accurate and don't produce tight groupings (meaning you need to get closer and open up). Also different guns have different rates of fire and their shells drop off differently.
In LA7s you need to get close to have a decent chance of hitting for most people.
DM:
They just redid the damage model and damage applies more exactly to where your bullets hit. Meaning you can shoot out engines, shoot off wings, etc.
Also it makes it harder for snap shots .. if you hit the enemy outside of your convergence range you might put say two rounds on a wing, two round on the tail, and miss with two rounds. The damage is applied to where is hit .. which makes it more important to get a good hit and keep a burst on target for a bit. Or several bursts.
Also there is more types of damage available in AH2 that in AW. You can shoot out rudder, elevators, aierlons, wing tip, wing, oil, engine, fuel tank(s), specific guns, and wound the pilot.
Obviously there is a lot more difference but it would take a bit too write. Some planes have multiple fuel tanks, you have have drop tanks, rockets, different bombs (sizes), bombers can be upped in formations of 3 and the bomb model is massively different here from AW. etc., etc.
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I flew with the Nomads for a long time in AW, under the name +Dizy.
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Slim, here, from the 69th Shepherd's Fold in A-land, then flew with the {WildCards} in B-land.
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Useful differences to know:
(1) The AH 190 series is different from the AW 190. For one thing, you can't frisbee the 190 like you could in AW. For another, the AH 190 can actually dogfight.
(2) The AH Corsair series is different from the AW Corsair. The AH Corsair is noticeably slower and bleeds energy faster than the AH Mustang, whereas in AW the stang and Corsair were about the same except for ammo loads and durability.
(3) AW had the N1k1; AH has the N1K2. I didn't fly either one so I'm not sure what the FM and gunnery differences are.
(4) AW had the wirblewind; AH has the Ostwind. Both serve the same purpose, just different rates of fire.
(5) In AW you captured a base by dropping troops on the runway. In AH you capture a base by levelling the town buildings and dropping troops on the city.
(6) In AH the aircraft carriers move.
(7) AH has amphibious tanks.
(8) AH has more control over length of gun burst.
(9) The AH 109F isn't as fast as the AW 109F, in comparison to the other aircraft in the MA.
(10) You can win a map in AH. In AW it was the same map all the time depending on which arena you were in.
(11) Better stall and blackout warning in AH.
(12) There's no way to deprive your opponent of Spitfire production.
(13) Only one gunner per bomber. No more deathstars or bloodpigs.
(14) AH has two main types of tanks (not counting the LVT tank); AW only had one.
(15) AH has better terrain.
(16) You can customize your sounds in AH.
(17) Two types of vox radio in AH - range and tunable.
(18) AH has clouds and smoke.
I still have CDs and boxes from Air Warrior 1.something, Air Warrior 1.5, AW2, and AW3. I flew RR for 6 months on AOL (AW4Windows) then jumped to FR with the 24th Fighter/Bomber Group ("The Skulls") where I was CO. We flew FR Euro and FR Pac up until the bitter end (and beat the Shillelagh in the AOL squad vs squad duel), then I spent a year away from the hobby and got back into it a couple of years ago. The Skulls are divided up amongst various countries and squadrons now so that we can exert unseen influences on the game like an invisible hand. Bwahahaha![/i]
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The biggest and most important difference is the owner of this game gives a ****.
AW 1997-2001
ergRTC and Rizzo before 1999
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I was tj101 and than jaxxo i believe
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Biggest difference to me:
The Yak can fly with any plane in the game here. (late war U model, not the D we had in AW).
-Sik
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I remember the squad vs. squad duel..ohhh yah...we won it all :) I still have gun camera footage of that somewhere lol. Marcy, BigT, JDawg, and I. Biggest difference for me between AW and AH was that I was good at AWFR but I suck at AH haha. I still remember the first time I played with my suncom POS joystick in the RR arena on AOL. Subby and NoBaddy (he went by Fidel on AW4W) used to like to fly their A26s from the lake area, east to where us Seals were. They killed the crap out of us haha. After a while I caught on and NB showed me a few tricks in the P38 in RR. I got pretty good and eventually went to FR. Subby kind of took me under her wing in FR and that’s when I got really good. From there it was just practice and figuring out some things on my own. I went to a couple conventions and met a lot of great people. Those were some fun days. Airwarrior is the grand daddy of pretty much every massive online multiplayer game, and is probably the best one I ever played in terms of community and just pure fun. (And I've played them all....sad huh?)
356th to the Mighty Fluff
Oh and I was in the Nomads for one day on their very first mission. Not many people know that they started out as a bunch of people from other squads in alternate names to hide thier Identity. I cant remember my nomad name tho lol.
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BigR!!! Hiya bud, dint know you were here :). Drop me an email.
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Originally posted by Delirium
I flew with the Nomads for a long time in AW, under the name +Dizy.
I did not know that Delirium.. I remember +Dizy though. 8)
Anyone know what happened to Subby?? lol that arp diva!
How about Moss?? Think he flew AH abit?
AH recently, if memory is right, just got another old AW player... 'Pal' Pretty sure i'm right.. 8)
Ditch bro, it has been a long time though! hehe Wow time gets by... ;)
What about Badz, i know he flys AH, but whats his handle now??
kappa
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Pssssst! Jet hasn`t posted, that`s Jay. :D
Eh .... 6 of one ... a half dozen of the other. They're both basically idiotlings working on growing into the full size version one day. ;)
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Hiya Ditch!
Most of the JG26 are flying Rook as well as a big chunk of former Bz squads. We do have some Az and Cz squads as well, but we got lucky and got the finest that each country had to offer.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Biggest difference to me:
The Yak can fly with any plane in the game here. (late war U model, not the D we had in AW).
-Sik
Oh yeah, that and the P-47 are contenders in the MA now instead of the "I've beaten you with everything else, let me fly the clown planes now" rides that they were in AW.
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Anyone know what happened to Subby?? lol that arp diva!
Last I heard Gail was playing games like EverQuest and tooling around the lake in her racing boat :).
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
How about Moss?? Think he flew AH abit?
What about Badz, i know he flys AH, but whats his handle now??
kappa
MOSS showed up in the MA a week or so ago, not sure if he is gonna stay..he plays IL2-FB
Badz is badboy here...he frequents different arenas from time to time and post alot here on the boards........
outstanding prop hanging the other night kappa....
welcome to AH2 Ditch...........
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Played AW since late 95 free on aol till it went poof. Been to 4 AWCons including the last one in Seattle 2001.
I MISS KOREA!!!!!!
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Originally posted by flyingaround
It was the FIRST online multi-player game of any size.
First online multi-player with graphics game. Text-based MUDs were already out. Just a little bit of nerd gaming history.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by rpm371
The flight models are different. AH is not an arcade game like the AW RR arenas. More of a forgiving full reality. Lots more bells and whistles here, too.
I find AH2 reminds me quite a bit of RR AW, at least with the P-38.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Pssssst! Jet hasn`t posted, that`s Jay. :D
They're not the same person? All this time I thought Jay/Jet was the same kid with a severe case of multi-personality disorder.
ack-ack
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& Welcome aboard!
h
(LongHorn #4495--AW Camp 2, 1987 til they kilt it, onna Mac)
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Welcome Ditch,
I played AW Classic, AW2 and AW3 spanning across free AOHell to it's demise with Gamestorm.
Squads :
Dawn Patrol (Swish, Ruff, Rocket & others)
SKT's squad :
Flying Skillets \____________/============
My Macro:
Kill! \____pony style_____/====Muhahahah! Suck it dowwwwn!
AW cpid:
Sun
Sundowner
Aces High handle:
Sundownr
If you liked AW you'll love this game!
Big learning curve but well worth it!
Hitech and crew are top notch.
Aces High is constantly being improved.
See ya up!
Sun
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Air Warrior Spam Hole (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6688&perpage=50&pagenumber=1)
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Primary difference between AW and AH was arena design and setup.
In that regard, AW was superior.
"AW had the N1k1; AH has the N1K2. I didn't fly either one so I'm not sure what the FM and gunnery differences are. "
The plane that AW called the N1K1-J in no way resembeled any real plane by that name. The AH version is FAR more accurate.
The AW version was more like a J2M than an N1K.
J_A_B
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SloHD in Aw3
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AW for AOL
wwIIace
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just got aw3, im a sucker for classics, if anyone wants to play AW3 lan style give me a ring at eilifalmighty@yahoo.com
or eilifknutson via aim
would be fun to get an aw night going again!
now if i could just get aces of the pacific to work on xp.....
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In addition to the above comments, there are alot more plane managment options in AH. From which type of armament you want to use, or even fire, to manually selecting what fuel tank you want to draw from. You can use a feature to automatically trim your plane, or do it manually. Some former RR players did not enjoy the greater attention that needed to be paid to actually flying the plane. With your FR background, you'll probably find it adds a greater depth to gameplay.
Aol AW4W
AW2
AW3
AWMV
CPIDs
Murdr
TDale
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Originally posted by Deth7
Played AW since late 95 free on aol till it went poof. Been to 4 AWCons including the last one in Seattle 2001.
I MISS KOREA!!!!!!
Roger that. Oh the thrill of dispatching a Sabre with the YAK O' Death... rare thought it was.
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Originally posted by Jasta
AW for AOL
wwIIace
another exists! gawd, AOL .
I was "maz". Didn't fly anything from 96' - 00' though.
Only remember flying for the C country and having one successfull B17 mission with a ton of gunners. That game rocked - It barely played on my 486
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Omg! :o
lol Unbelievable! Flo, Oldma, Zazen, Kappa, Zamo, Grimm, iko and more and more and more. So many great people and squads I know or knew by their reps! And Filth and Jag15, man you guys made that squad into the best online group I've ever been a part of.
heh Filth, I tried to come back after like a year off back then and got frustrated because my skills had degraded so much. Now I think I'm gonna have to start with a jeep and move up.
Zamo, I remember starting out as an annoying sort of flea in the FW-190, then the Spit and then settled down to flying the Hellcat.
And ty to the folks here who took the time to write out some detailed answers! It does sound like AW4 which is good.
Crap, now I gotta go buy a joy stick and a head set. :)
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I was JAG. Flew with the Black Roses for A-land.
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Did anybody here play AW 1x on the Australian server (OzHost) ?
I recall that we had a handful of guys from the USA and Canada, and several from Japan.
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Originally posted by J_A_B
Primary difference between AW and AH was arena design and setup.
In that regard, AW was superior.
J_A_B
To a certain extent yes.
Furball Island (fightertown)in particular With its uncapturable bases set aside for the furball cowd AW had the dead on exact right idea.
Implemented here I think would go a HUGE way in alleviating the moans and groans of both the furballers and the landgrabbers reguardless of map size.
I would love to know the reasoning behind refusing to impliment such a system here.
To me it makes much more sence then setting things up to force players to play one way or the other.
And with such a system in place everyone gets what they want and no changes have to be made to the strat system.
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"arena design and setup."
I agree too, if an AOL chat room with WWII aircraft as the decore' was what your preference was.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Biggest difference to me:
The Yak can fly with any plane in the game here. (late war U model, not the D we had in AW).
-Sik
Dunno. I was resonably successful with it in AW andI didnt have too many problems with my AW Yak against any of the planes in AW.
There were a few pilots however that seemed to have my number no matter what plane I, or they were in.
Yak in AW was by far my favorite ride along with the Vader
/IT\ KILLS!!! ///oo\\\
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I played the oz host.
HiTech
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Dunno. I was resonably successful with it in AW andI didnt have too many problems with my AW Yak against any of the planes in AW.
There were a few pilots however that seemed to have my number no matter what plane I, or they were in.
Yak in AW was by far my favorite ride along with the Vader
/IT\ KILLS!!! ///oo\\\
I was pretty much at the mercy of any E-fighter when flying the Yak. It was the Zeke of the ETO for me lol.
-Sik
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I was +Dead, DeadF, and Cilk in AW4W/AW2/AW3.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Nostalgia
(http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/AW/ZERO-HIT.gif)
(http://www.itga.com.au/~gnb/AW/P38-1.gif)
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Post newer AW pics plz ... Or less old.. haha
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:eek: The memories of playing AW in AOL circa 1996 flooded back when I saw those screenies, Etch. Brought to mind launching the game only to get the reminder to lower the color depth to 256 colors. The second pic reminded me how the instrument panel would always be in view even when you turned your head.
I see AK-AK's point of how the AH FM seems more like RR than FR with the P-38 in particular. I flew RR because FR seemed too, I don't know, harsh (I called it "Sur-Realism"). One moment you were making a turn, and the next you're in some weird backward spin with no in-between. Or in a fight, suddenly black out for 5 seconds for the fatal mistake of pulling over 6 g's. The tunnel vision in AH was very welcome after that.
I was Tbsco in AW to the bitter end. Split my time between Pac and Euro arenas about 70/30.
Welcome, Ditch!
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I loaded up SVGA AW, and was going to take a few screen captures. I *thought* it would be easy. The program ran well in WinXP, though it didn't recognize the usb control devices. I could fly it with the mouse though (flew with a mouse all the time on an Atari512ST):) Anyway, I could find no program that could capture the screen. I ran across those pictures looking for one.
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Originally posted by JG26-Ditch
I used to play AW3 (in Big Pac full realism, SFRT then JG26 squadron flying for country B) a loooooong time ago. Had a blast with it. Won a few camps, met some awesome people, got killed way too many times... Ran into an old squad mate recently and after reminiscing about the good old days he recommended I check out Aces High.
Any AW vets here who could maybe give me a run down on how the two games are alike/different? Would appreciate much!
Ditch! Voch5 here
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Post newer AW pics plz ... Or less old.. haha
Some shots from the Final Flyby on the last night of AW.....
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby1.jpg)
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby2.jpg)
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby3.jpg)
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby4.jpg)
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby5.jpg)
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby6.jpg)
May notice a few familiar names there..... ;)
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Originally posted by Sikboy
I was pretty much at the mercy of any E-fighter when flying the Yak. It was the Zeke of the ETO for me lol.
-Sik
For me it was the extramly diciplined E fighter Fortunatly most werent.
I figured if I could dodge em long enough to frustrate em into turn fighting. or in getting the fight ot go down and not up.
They were mine.
A Large portion of the time I was right
I find the FM2 can fly alot like the AW Yak
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Originally posted by Flossy
Some shots from the Final Flyby on the last night of AW.....
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/finalflyby4.jpg)
May notice a few familiar names there..... ;)
There I am!
More then a few look familiour
Bless you Flossy ::sniff sniff::
Damn I miss that Handle
Tried getting it here when I first came here.
Wouldnt let me have /IT\ or even IT
(woulda much rather had /IT\ though)
So I hadta settle with Drediock
Hey Hightech. Any particular reason I couldnt have either of those handles?
OR what are the chances of me being able to get them or perhaps a slightly modified version of em?
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Notice, in the OLD AW pic (it looks circa 1992), how the ICON wasn't actually on the screen but off to the side.
I miss it being that way.
I miss the colored rudder stripes, too
And euro/pac arenas (choice? what is that?)
I never cared for the 3-D version of AW. I flew it in 2D mode up until AW was shut down.
AW's planes were always easier to make out than in AH for some reason, despite the game running at 1/2 the resolution that AH does and the planes having 1/5 the poly count. I could always "see" better in AW than in AH.
J_A_B
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I think its 1995 or so. With SVGA AW, came new shapes and things like propellers. Also, real time instead of half-time :)
I have older versions of AW but they're platform specific - in my case Atari.
Here's the release notes dated 7-18-95. Believe it or not, the program runs in WinXP
New features of the 1.20 DOS release:
Front End/Artwork
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1. Advanced aircraft shapes, complete with propeller and landing gear
animation, and country markings.
2. The N1J2 Shinden Kai “George” - a late war Japanese fighter airplane,
complete with cockpit artwork
3. Updated Miles sound library.
4. Native support for the S3 family of video cards (i.e. Diamond Stealth).
5. Bug Fixes
Terrain
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1. Redesigned zones to support a greater number of simultaneous players
in our terrains.
2. Additional forward airfields in World War I to allow players to get
to the action quicker.
3. A new Vehicle City arena for armored warfare amidst three large city areas.
4. Strategic bombing and resupply in the production real-time terrains.
5. Improved real-time Pacific layout to prevent central Atoll crowding.
Host
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1. Support for new terrain and strategic bombing
2. Bug fixes
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Originally posted by Flossy
Some shots from the Final Flyby on the last night of AW.....
Oh my GOD !!!
Flossy... thanks for the nostalgic look back...heh heh...
You had special terrains and/or runway "highlights" loaded didn't you ?
Most of our squad made it over from AW. The 81st Krewsaderz flew for Country A in RR. I think it started on AOL, but I was there for AW3 and AWMV playing through Gamestorm (screw EA...).
I miss the "deathstar" excursions when we had every gun manned in the B-17 capping a field by ourselves.... LOL !!!
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"Considering your youth now, I suspect AW was a little over your head at the age you would have had to of been then."
Heh heh heh. Considering he wasn't even born yet when AW first came out, that is petty much a sure thing.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
There I am!
More then a few look familiour
Bless you Flossy ::sniff sniff::
Damn I miss that Handle
Tried getting it here when I first came here.
Wouldnt let me have /IT\ or even IT
(woulda much rather had /IT\ though)
So I hadta settle with Drediock
Hey Hightech. Any particular reason I couldnt have either of those handles?
OR what are the chances of me being able to get them or perhaps a slightly modified version of em?
Yep, the Nightmares weren't able to carry over their trademark brackets , so now I'm just plain old BFD. Ditch, welcome back, many of the old Bz are flying Rook.
Cya Up!
Dawg
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Brings a tear to the eye....
Welcome Ditch.
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Did anybody play around with Crack 21[?] (SVGA AW)You could modify the cockpit art (within the confines of the allowable dimensions) and swap sounds. I modified and rearranged the gauges somewhat to make the G-meter more visible, narrowed a few of the cockpit frames and at one point substituted Beavis and butthead and Simpson’s sounds for some of the game sounds.
Firing the MGs was Beavis maniacally laughing
Getting hit was "you handsomehunk... or Doh... or of course... Fire Fire!"
It got old, but before it did it was hard to fight for laughing. It helped that my roommate Yyrkoon had the same files on his system and we played in the same computer room :) I have it all on a zip disk somewhere.
Charon
4261
Chrn
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Originally posted by Dawggus
Yep, the Nightmares weren't able to carry over their trademark brackets , so now I'm just plain old BFD. Ditch, welcome back, many of the old Bz are flying Rook.
Cya Up!
Dawg
Yea I know and that kinda sucked but they wouldnt even let me have just plain old "IT" either though it kinda looses something without the / and the \.
I have another idea for the name which I like very much but barring a responce from the powers that be I will haveta wait till I can get another system together that is capable of running AHII so I can open a second account so my son and I both can play at the same time instead of sharing.
and god nly knows how long thats gonna be.
Its not a huge thing as I use Drediock everywhere I belong to on the net. so if you see that name its probably me. and if it isnt its just some cheap wannabe imposter :)
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And speaking of AW.
Ho3w many of you managed to complete
"The 24 hours of Airwarrior"
I know much to my wife displeasure I tried several times and managed to do it once.
That is play the game for 24 hour straight, nonstop.
and by "play" I mean actually play and not just stay logged on while ya go to bed.
And do it without the use of amphetamines
LOL
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I pulled a 24 hour once,but it wasn't playing a game - working on a program. Its a freaky feeling, and then you realize you haven't eaten either. Too much hex causes brain damage :p
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(http://FilthysForum.homestead.com/files/aw_collage.jpg)
Thanks for posting Flossy!
Ditch..I feel like a day1 player even after a month of playing now.
Gunnery is pretty tough. But the biggest problem for me is the wobbly rudder. I have a twisty stick (same I had in AW). Ive tried analog pedals but still wobbles. I dont know if USB would make much of a difference. And I really am leery of spending alot of money to try that.
Come on in and fly bud..I'll be lookin for ya!
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yea I know and that kinda sucked but they wouldnt even let me have just plain old "IT"
You should have been able to have IT okay, as there are other two-letter names in the game - like LW and NB! Unless it was already taken (by you trying the game out previously?), in which case drop an email to Skuzzy asking if it can be released. Of course, if you changed to IT now, you would lose any perk-points you have on Drediok.....
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Thanks for the pics Flossy! Your truely one of our communitie's greats!
U2 FiLtH! Man.. been so long since I had seen those textures (sky, sea, land) I had forgotten what they looked like..
Great post all!
Hurry back in Ditch! Dont get to fly as much as I would like most times, but will be looking for you!
kappa
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Hiyas Voch5! :)
Thanks for the welcomes all!
Should have a stick and be installing it by tomorrow.
Now this might be a really dumb question but I've seen reviews of and people here mention Aces High 2. I'm gonna be dl'ing this:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/startnow.html
Is that Aces High 2?
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yes Ditch :)
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Was Flit in aol AW, Flew with, among others, Nads,It,Wind, Boz, Douce ( anyone remember him lol)
Still flyin with the first 4:)
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I remember Douce... He still stops in AH on occasions.. Prolly be maybe 2 months ago I saw him in AH...
Saw him in WW2ol a few years ago.. hehe
I cant remember the name he was using in AH last time.. But he did pm me... Said, 'So your still playing this game, eh?' lol What can I say??!?!
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I played AW1 on AOL with a 14.4
I WAS DAMN HAPPY WITH IT!
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Speaking of old AW days, can amyone give me some updates on some of the people that were a big part of AW in the beginning years like... (I know what HT, Pyro, and Superfly are doing :D)
BlueBarron
Homes
Quarters
GrayEagle
Vossman
Ghostrider
Stiletto
DeadDuck
Eyeballs
DokTaGonZo (sp?)
I know some may be deceased (if so my condolences), but just curious if they play anymore. Last time I ran into any of them , the were working for Kesmai. Guess they maxed out the credit cards and were sold into slavery:eek:
Sorry to name drop, but I am curious.
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i dont know what happend to any of those people, but i met most of them at conventions and they were all super nice...even some with badboy reps in the arena . Guys like DeadDuck were who you wanted to be with during scenarios. Ill never forget one scenario (i actually forget which one exactly) where we were a p38 squadron the whole time, and we didnt lose one stinkin plane...we had tripple the amount of kills of any other squad. Scenarios were so awesome. That was the absolute best thing about AirWarrior. I remember being so nervous as I dove on 2 262s limping home low on fuel....i got both of em as the ack ripped my plane apart and i barely made it home, smoking on the deck. Or the time some Doras tried to tangle with our P47s at 30k. They dove out to try to escape . I havnt played an AH scenario yet...i can only hope they are half as fun.
NB, glad to hear from you! I'll never forget the time you let me use your computer at the 96con because mine decided not to work until i got back home without me even touching it lol. I owe you a Moggy's Low Vulchin Lager =). (Which i still have BTW)
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<----SouLz....Flew in Euro with Inner Circle and in Pac with -DB82 and Heuer. Ahh, memories.
Dam you EA *shakes fists violently*
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
I remember Douce... He still stops in AH on occasions.. Prolly be maybe 2 months ago I saw him in AH...
Saw him in WW2ol a few years ago.. hehe
I cant remember the name he was using in AH last time.. But he did pm me... Said, 'So your still playing this game, eh?' lol What can I say??!?!
was still douce in AW....
saw em in AH a few months back(was duelin Wildthing)...then me and him had a few goes....haven't seen em since
thx for the memories FLO
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Originally posted by BigR
iNB, glad to hear from you! I'll never forget the time you let me use your computer at the 96con because mine decided not to work until i got back home without me even touching it lol. I owe you a Moggy's Low Vulchin Lager =). (Which i still have BTW)
Still got one of those myself (kind of afraid to open it :D).
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Yea Dok, at the time, had a bad boy persona. I think he came up with the phrase "bite me" :) But he put a whole lot of work into scenarios. He was great for the community.
Talking like this is ancient history - its wierd that was only about 12 years ago (when 386x was a dream machine :D).
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Boozer checking in,
Dok flamed me as being one of the first of 1000 dweebs when AW went SVGA and full real came live. I used to be impressed by Axman and JG26 in half-time. I remember htat very first exposure when I was lost on a silly 8 field map. Went straight to real time and Got trained by Grok. I started spending my time trying to fight Rocketman in his high hog, NB when he wasn't looking, DD in his 38, Merch his low swooping FW... man I miss those days, I miss them a lot.
And even then some of the best I had heard of already retired.
My best times back then were Saturday mornings, Mute and Popeye on my wings fighting out of 87 with us all playing a 10k alt rule.. I'm pretty sure that's where the "Men of Leisure" name came from, waste a whole saturday...
I outflew DD in one of those con competitions, HE was too drunk and blew a high merge , lol. I thought I had arrived then :)
I used to worship him and all the other high scorers. The guys are still magic in my eyes, I'm one of the first 1000 dweebs. There's so many handles I admired...
So yeah, the world split and I got a trainer slot in AW AOL
Did trainer in gamestorm for a while
Found AH, here the spark is still alive...
Think of your days past and who you really thought highly of. There are some new guys out there today that feel that way now, the magic, the wonder, lets bring them along and encourage them to kill us :)
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Originally posted by Boozer2
Boozer checking in,
Dok flamed me as being one of the first of 1000 dweebs when AW went SVGA and full real came live. I used to be impressed by Axman and JG26 in half-time. I remember htat very first exposure when I was lost on a silly 8 field map. Went straight to real time and Got trained by Grok. I started spending my time trying to fight Rocketman in his high hog, NB when he wasn't looking, DD in his 38, Merch his low swooping FW... man I miss those days, I miss them a lot.
And even then some of the best I had heard of already retired.
My best times back then were Saturday mornings, Mute and Popeye on my wings fighting out of 87 with us all playing a 10k alt rule.. I'm pretty sure that's where the "Men of Leisure" name came from, waste a whole saturday...
I outflew DD in one of those con competitions, HE was too drunk and blew a high merge , lol. I thought I had arrived then :)
I used to worship him and all the other high scorers. The guys are still magic in my eyes, I'm one of the first 1000 dweebs. There's so many handles I admired...
So yeah, the world split and I got a trainer slot in AW AOL
Did trainer in gamestorm for a while
Found AH, here the spark is still alive...
Think of your days past and who you really thought highly of. There are some new guys out there today that feel that way now, the magic, the wonder, lets bring them along and encourage them to kill us :)
Hey Booz,
Was that Axeman the same one who was flying with JG54 in
HT? Cause he's been showing up in the MA recently :)
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Stiletto
Stiletto is here in AH, playing for Rooks.DeadDuck....DokTaGonZo (sp?)
Both recently made an appearance in a very long thread currently going on in the OC forum..... :)
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Originally posted by BigR
I havnt played an AH scenario yet...i can only hope they are half as fun.
Hope you try one soon, BigR! Have you signed up for the Battle of Britain scenario starting on August 1st? If not, come along anyway and walk on, you'll be very welcome and I think you will find AH scenarios are as much fun as the AW ones were. :)
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Originally posted by Rino
Hey Booz,
Was that Axeman the same one who was flying with JG54 in
HT? Cause he's been showing up in the MA recently :)
Yes PH, that is Will. Which reminds me that I need to drop him a note. Cya :).
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Originally posted by Flossy
You should have been able to have IT okay, as there are other two-letter names in the game - like LW and NB! Unless it was already taken (by you trying the game out previously?), in which case drop an email to Skuzzy asking if it can be released. Of course, if you changed to IT now, you would lose any perk-points you have on Drediok.....
Hmmm You do have a point. Not that I use my perks much.
Maybe I'll just wait a bit longer
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Dam Ditch how the hell are ya. You better get your butt in here and say hello and come fly like old times. Good to see ya we are are the Rooks
iKo
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Speaking of old AW days, can amyone give me some updates on some of the people that were a big part of AW in the beginning years like... (I know what HT, Pyro, and Superfly are doing :D)
BlueBarron
Homes
Quarters
GrayEagle
Vossman
Ghostrider
Stiletto
DeadDuck
Eyeballs
DokTaGonZo (sp?)
I know some may be deceased (if so my condolences), but just curious if they play anymore. Last time I ran into any of them , the were working for Kesmai. Guess they maxed out the credit
cards and were sold into slavery:eek:
Sorry to name drop, but I am curious.
Did'nt Vossman get a brain tumor or something ?:rofl
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Originally posted by Flit
Did'nt Vossman get a brain tumor or something ?:rofl
Flit that's NOT the same guy.
culero
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But feel free to drop by the O club thread on the REAL voss.DocGonzo and +brat posted in there
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Originally posted by DrDea
But feel free to drop by the O club thread on the REAL voss.DocGonzo and +brat posted in there
LOL So did Gary Coleman and the cast of Gilligan`s Island. :D
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Speaking of Gilligans Isle, did you know the professor Russell Johnson was a Liberator crew member, and recieved the purple heart in WW2?
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heh Ok, got it installed and running. Got my new joystick.
Logged in. Got in a plane. Started the motor and then proceeded to move along the ground unable to turn or take off since the stick wasn't doing anything. Right before I crashed into a hill, boom, I think the map changed. Or I pushed a button and dumped myself. Anyways,,, Whooo! I'm back! And got my orig handle too; Ditch.
Saw COORS,,, anyone know if that's the old COORS who used to fly the P-51 in AW3? Couldn't seem to raise him.
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Was Joc back in AW,though it took AH to fully develop my wool fetish......and Skuzzy.........:D
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I started playing AW more than 10 years ago when it was VGA only and nme a/c were represented by a little 'T' whose orientation on the screen indicated their direction relative to you.
I'm not kidding.
Trip
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
BlueBarron
Homes
Quarters
GrayEagle
Vossman
Ghostrider
Stiletto
DeadDuck
Eyeballs
DokTaGonZo (sp?)
Quarters and DD both post regularly on BigWeek. BB was last seen there about a year ago. Likewise GE. I last remeber EB complaining that AH (or was it CK?) wouldnt let him use his handle because it contained the word 'balls'.
Trip
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Originally posted by JG26-Ditch
heh Ok, got it installed and running. Got my new joystick.
Logged in. Got in a plane. Started the motor and then proceeded to move along the ground unable to turn or take off since the stick wasn't doing anything. Right before I crashed into a hill, boom, I think the map changed. Or I pushed a button and dumped myself. Anyways,,, Whooo! I'm back! And got my orig handle too; Ditch.
Saw COORS,,, anyone know if that's the old COORS who used to fly the P-51 in AW3? Couldn't seem to raise him.
Ya bro. Hes the same one.. 8) Call him a dirty muppet next time and see if that works.. hehe
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Originally posted by Seeker
Additionaly; while the planes seem to be modeled a bit more accurately in AH (depending on who you believe); the flight model is actually easier than AW FR was. There's a host of new things to get used to, such as torque and trim; but flying on the edge isn't the knife edge experience that AW FR was.
It's interesting that others have this view too. For some reason which is not easy to identify the really sweat-inducing turn fights of AW dont seem to happen in AH. In virtually every respect AH is the better game, except in respect of how much I actually enjoy playing it.
As for the community, I think it's just bigger. I felt the same way when AW went onto AOL.
I still really enjoy scenarios though.
Trip
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Originally posted by Flossy
Some shots from the Final Flyby on the last night of AW.....
May notice a few familiar names there..... ;)
Anybody seen Fin'E or ssnif?
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Was RHIN0 Last letter zero, when AOL introduced AW. Took a few years off after GS died. Played for AZ land in RRE. Have been back one year now.
RHIN0
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The Flying Fin was up Winging with the JG27 and the CAF a couple weeks ago.
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Originally posted by kevykev56
Was RHIN0 Last letter zero, when AOL introduced AW. Took a few years off after GS died. Played for AZ land in RRE. Have been back one year now.
RHIN0
Kev, is that "Hank The Cowdog" in your avatar?
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sorry, hit the submit button twice.
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Kev, is that "Hank The Cowdog" in your avatar?
Nah, He is just a plane ole, "Sick Puppy". I believe he is just a mutt that had a few too many cervezas last night.
RHIN0
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Not sure of exact date when I started in AW or which version.....have vague recollection of flying in late '94, but was more into playing Battletech on GEnie than AW.
Flew mainly in PAC RR with the 247th Wildcats: handles-
dblems
Duke:
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Hey hey hey... Lots of old names in here.
Kappa,flit, IT, SLO and everyone else. This is Douce from Airwarrior.
I haven't been in AH in months, been too busy with real life and my other gaming addictions hehe. How's AH2? I need to come check it out someday. Just managed to roam into the AH forums tonight to see if AH2 was out yet or what and caught this thread.
I've been playing IL-2FB/Aces for my Air combat fix, WWIIOL for my ground combat fix, Freehost warbirds due to some old airwarrior friends that hate aces high and insist on living there..i can't figure it out either. City of Heroes, Everquest, Dark Age of camelot, Anarchy Online, hell just about every MMORPG for my fantasy fix and some other assorted box games like Blitzkrieg/the combat missions etc etc.
Glad to see you guys are all doing well. I might sign up again and come wing up for old times sake. I've never really been addicted to any game for any long period of time like I was addicted to Airwarrior, so I just bounce around and play whatever i feel like playing on any given day. That's why I'm a MIA in this game. Keeps me and my credit card happy though ;).
I pop in and out of AH from time to time and just catch a flight here and there and usually shout at people I know...like that Kappa dweeb :D. Last time I played for any length of time was when I was flying as Unholy I think it was (I got like 20 names in this game) like 2 years ago hehe.
Anyways, Feel free to drop me an email if anyone plays any of the games I listed, we'll hook up. Pyroth@thekillingfield.com
That's enough rambling from me. Glad to see some of you guys remember me, I haven't forgotten you yet.. Can't remember what I ate for breakfast this morning, but I still remember almost every minute of Airwarrior lol.
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Oh and IT, I had MANY of those 24 hour days back in airwarrior, Bombing spit factories with you guys in our fully gunned b17's and just bull****tin about everything and cuttin up.
Ahh them were the days.
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
What about Badz, i know he flys AH, but whats his handle now??
kappa
Hi Kappa,
I fly and post on the boards with the same callsign thesedays, and I came over to AH about a year before AW closed.
I'm enjoying AH as much as I ever enjoyed any online game, and it just keeps getting better.
I also heard today (from TC) that Snowman was thinking of coming to AH! That would be cool.
Badboy
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Originally posted by Badboy
Hi Kappa,
I fly and post on the boards with the same callsign thesedays, and I came over to AH about a year before AW closed.
I'm enjoying AH as much as I ever enjoyed any online game, and it just keeps getting better.
I also heard today (from TC) that Snowman was thinking of coming to AH! That would be cool.
Badboy
>I also heard today (from TC) that Snowman
> was thinking of coming to AH! That would be
>cool.
That WOULD be cool, hope he makes it over. Snowman would be a great addition to AH
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>>Did'nt Vossman get a brain tumor or something ?<<
No relation to the Voss in a thread in the OC. Vossman of early AW was all class and a great teacher.
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I played from the free AOL days and then went to gamestorm with everybody else.
That game about got me a divource,but damn,no luck. Still married.
I went by msll through AOL and II then in AWIII I changed to stEVIL. I was always aCz and most of the time a lone wolf.
Doubt very much anybody remember my sorry arnold.....
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I got in around 96 on free AOHELL.Flew with a Doc someone as a blue knight buff gunner for starters and then formed /*IRONMEN*\ with Dburt.4th ACW as a CZ,was a BOP for awhile and Expertein with +Fang.After it went to AW3 I kinda moved away from it.
AW had a smokin community.Never saw or have seen anything like it since.:aok
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I started in AW back in the SVGA DOS box version but didn't fly online then. I went online back in 2/96 in AWClassic and was an RR dweeb until it's demise at the hands of Electronic Farts. I was DOC1 back in AW. I mainly flew ETO in RR2 and flew in the following squads:
1. The Intruders (a Buff squad)
2. Confederate Knights (an all cop squad)
3. The Flying Skillets (a great bunch of nuts)
All the Best...
Jay
awDOC1
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LOL. You're all dweebs.
Flew AW campaign 1, It was MACINTOSH only on GEnie. $12/hr. The only guy on your lists I can remember being there was Dok Gonzo, who got banned like, immediately, and started an endless (and highly entertaining) feud with Kesmai.
Earliest player still here I can remember is NoBaddy (NB), although we had no alpha cpids (I think he was 2227).
A nice month of gameplay was around $1000. A great frame rate was 12. I think arena held like 20 players max.
Crowd was very light until it ported to Amiga, then DOS, then GEnie went $6/hr. I remember when the bulletin board went flat-rate, got more active than the game.
You guys complain about bugs. The Ami port had wrong sign on fuel and ammo weights (weight was SUBTRACTED), so Ami guys flew around with full tanks and clips killing EVERYTHING. Took Kesmai a year to fix.
BlueBarron (BB) was a DOS player, then got hired-in after Robert Wolf finally got fired. He brought in more players to Kesmai, made it production-grade after they got bought-up.
Meanwhile HiTech showed-up - making this ancient history.
G-man (Rolf Penzel) and I setup the left coast convention in 1991 in Los Angeles. Was fun explaining to Hilton why we need 40 separate phone lines in a conference room, but can't use PBX.
That is where Kesmai announced they were porting to Windows and going onto AOL. GEnie got hostile but the players fairly slobbered themselves imagining 10,000 dweebs suddenly upping at A1.
GreyEagle (GE) was feuding with Dutch. Both of them were 'packing heat' at the con. Gotta love the hate.
HiTech's wingman (Heater) was a test pilot a Wright-Patterson. Very deadly. HT was a little slower on the learning curve. :p
Anybody here remember the first AOL squad? "Aggressors"?? :rofl
My # was 2112. Handle never changed.
Mullah
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Originally posted by RDSaustinTX
LOL. You're all dweebs.
Flew AW campaign 1, It was MACINTOSH only on GEnie. $12/hr. The only guy on your lists I can remember being there was Dok Gonzo, who got banned like, immediately, and started an endless (and highly entertaining) feud with Kesmai.
Earliest player still here I can remember is NoBaddy (NB), although we had no alpha cpids (I think he was 2227).
A nice month of gameplay was around $1000. A great frame rate was 12. I think arena held like 20 players max.
Crowd was very light until it ported to Amiga, then DOS, then GEnie went $6/hr. I remember when the bulletin board went flat-rate, got more active than the game.
You guys complain about bugs. The Ami port had wrong sign on fuel and ammo weights (weight was SUBTRACTED), so Ami guys flew around with full tanks and clips killing EVERYTHING. Took Kesmai a year to fix.
BlueBarron (BB) was a DOS player, then got hired-in after Robert Wolf finally got fired. He brought in more players to Kesmai, made it production-grade after they got bought-up.
Meanwhile HiTech showed-up - making this ancient history.
G-man (Rolf Penzel) and I setup the left coast convention in 1991 in Los Angeles. Was fun explaining to Hilton why we need 40 separate phone lines in a conference room, but can't use PBX.
That is where Kesmai announced they were porting to Windows and going onto AOL. GEnie got hostile but the players fairly slobbered themselves imagining 10,000 dweebs suddenly upping at A1.
GreyEagle (GE) was feuding with Dutch. Both of them were 'packing heat' at the con. Gotta love the hate.
HiTech's wingman (Heater) was a test pilot a Wright-Patterson. Very deadly. HT was a little slower on the learning curve. :p
Anybody here remember the first AOL squad? "Aggressors"?? :rofl
My # was 2112. Handle never changed.
Mullah
Wow! I get the feeling I'm in the presence of greatness...or at least something ancient. Ever visit an old-growth forest, say, up in Oregon, or there abouts? It's kinda like that feeling:p
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Late to the party but Flossy's screenshots got me digging around the hard drive.
A few screenshots for nostalgia sake.
Dan/Slack
+Tiff in AW
Spit V and P38 from the Italy Scenario. Fidd did the 417 Squadron Skin for the Spit
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1090863766_highcover.jpg)
Another Fidd done skin of and 18th FBW F51D Mustang. This one from the Korea Scenario when I got a Mig to over shoot and auger in trying to chase down my 51
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1090863736_augerkill2.jpg)
B17s and 51 escort during the Ploesti Scenario just as the flak started bursting over the target. We went deep without being intercepted leading to the infamous 'I call BS" flamefest. Ahh the nostalgia :)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1090863656_escort2.jpg)
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Heyas tiff
Ploesti! was great.
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>>Flew AW campaign 1, It was MACINTOSH only on GEnie. $12/hr. The only guy on your lists I can remember being there was Dok Gonzo, who got banned like, immediately, and started an endless (and highly entertaining) feud with Kesmai.
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Well I was just mentioning the *quality* players :)
j/k - I remember you too Mullah.
I remember hearing stories of the "death valley" days (I guess late 80's) when there was no moutains and planes could climb forever inverted. But, remember - it was half time. You could make a cup of coffee while split-s'ing :D
Wasn't there a squad "Aggies?" that everyone used to joke about? If I remember right, they were Aussies.
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Originally posted by Vice
Oh and IT, I had MANY of those 24 hour days back in airwarrior, Bombing spit factories with you guys in our fully gunned b17's and just bull****tin about everything and cuttin up.
Ahh them were the days.
Rgr that, You, me Bozz,flit, Prg,Wrase, Reacher,Raw,
And a ton of others whose names I now forget
and a Guy that went by 6gun or something like that.
he was the only one I ever found that could accurately gun my Vader while I was flying/fighting in it. Made a great team. He just seemd to know what I was gonna do all the time.
LOL I'll still never forget the time I was piloting a fully gunned deathstar late at night and fell asleep at my desk long before we reached target. Geuess everyone bailed cause when I woke up the 17 had ditched far far off the map.
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Originally posted by tobor
I played from the free AOL days and then went to gamestorm with everybody else.
That game about got me a divource,but damn,no luck. Still married.
I went by msll through AOL and II then in AWIII I changed to stEVIL. I was always aCz and most of the time a lone wolf.
Doubt very much anybody remember my sorry arnold.....
I do seem to remember your name. Only cause I kept mistaking you for an Az that went by EvilX
Who happened to be my arch enemy and #1 sought after target at that time.
Learned alot from him.
Died alot from him too LOL
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Originally posted by Badboy
I also heard today (from TC) that Snowman was thinking of coming to AH! That would be cool.
Badboy
Maybe he can convince HT to start an AH flight training academy. Snowman did a hell of a job with the AW academy before it shut down.
ack-ack
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Ok. Got my joy stick. Got a working head set. Ty to JJ for helping me set up!
And on my first real combat mission, we get over an enemy base somewhere, I get in a turn fight with an enemy and begin accidentally shooting rockets at him. Damn I think that put the fear of jebus in the guy!
Managed to peel off, shoot the rest of the rockets in the general direction of the base then twisted and hopped all over the hillsides while 3 or 4 guys boom and zoomed me for a while. Then I got shot too much and spun into a tree.
@#$% I missed this.
:D
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
LOL I'll still never forget the time I was piloting a fully gunned deathstar late at night and fell asleep at my desk long before we reached target. Geuess everyone bailed cause when I woke up the 17 had ditched far far off the map.
:lol Yeah, I was gunning a SkyKnights B17 in FR once and fell asleep. We apparently landed on a carrier and after failing to get my attention to join up again, they took it back up. I woke up to find myself on the carrier with only the text to give any clue what had happened. The scrollable text which was available while on the ground is something I miss about AW. :)
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Originally posted by JG26-Ditch
And on my first real combat mission, we get over an enemy base somewhere, I get in a turn fight with an enemy and begin accidentally shooting rockets at him. Damn I think that put the fear of jebus in the guy!
LOL, sounds like you had fun. Glad you are enjoying AH. ;)
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Originally posted by RDSaustinTX
Anybody here remember the first AOL squad? "Aggressors"?? :rofl
Mullah [/B]
Mullah,
the aggies predated the move to AOL by several years.
Wasnt DD an aggie? ;)
Trip
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1090863656_escort2.jpg)
I was flying one of those bombers I think (or was escort I forget). AW was a heck of a lot of fun. Was first in a lot of things, note we had shadows way back then, and some things (like full crewed bombers) have never been done again.
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Originally posted by JG26-Ditch
Ok. Got my joy stick. Got a working head set. Ty to JJ for helping me set up!
And on my first real combat mission, we get over an enemy base somewhere, I get in a turn fight with an enemy and begin accidentally shooting rockets at him. Damn I think that put the fear of jebus in the guy!
Managed to peel off, shoot the rest of the rockets in the general direction of the base then twisted and hopped all over the hillsides while 3 or 4 guys boom and zoomed me for a while. Then I got shot too much and spun into a tree.
@#$% I missed this.
:D
Lmao bro.. it can be great cant it!!
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Originally posted by Badboy
Hi Kappa,
I fly and post on the boards with the same callsign thesedays, and I came over to AH about a year before AW closed.
I'm enjoying AH as much as I ever enjoyed any online game, and it just keeps getting better.
I also heard today (from TC) that Snowman was thinking of coming to AH! That would be cool.
Badboy
Excellent to see you again my friend! Hope all is well with you and yours, Badz.. With all this rememberance of AW, you were one of the ones I was planning to make a post about.. Still planning to do it.. More to come soon.. 8)
kappa
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Sorry it was so late Ditch...it was 130 am when I saw ya last night. Id been more helpful...glad you got it working. I hope you're gonna be on a little earlier though! Im usually on anywheres from 8-12 et.
You wont take long learnin! :)
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im trying to get the multiplayer working through the modem to modem play right now, he is hosting at the moment, and i am placing a call through the tcp/ip connection type, but after i enter the ip it gives me a window asking for connection type, its blank. Do i need to get dos working for this to work, im using xp right now, just assumed multiplayer would work since the rest of the game does.
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Sent msg's via this boards e-mail function to a couple people. Just wanted to make sure I reached them.
Enjoyed the free trial a lot! Will be subscribing once I'm back from my summer vacation at the start of September. Thanks much for the info and tips and cya all soon!
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Didn't play too much AW3 but I did fly alot of SVGA AW back in the day. Anyone else remember Munda Weekend? (aka 30 Seconds over the toilet bowl)..
There was quite a stink over something I did in the last frame ;)
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awdos geni (some number thingy think it was like 30## didn't fly much way to expensive not even sure it was geni or that P service thing)
aw4w aol MAHEM MAHYM (flew a bit till it aol went unlimited lived on it after that)
awII beta MAHEM
awII aol MAHEM, MAHYM
awII Gamestorm MAHEM (I think it was gamestorm and it was really short lived)
awclassic Gamestorm MAHEM, MAHYM
awIII beta MAHEM
awIII Gamestorm MAHEM, MAHYM
AWME EA MAHEM
Only did one AWCon, AWCON 98, San Fran best dam event Ive ever been to in my life (been to alot of gaming, computer, and anime conventions), Boa passed out in the bushes outside the hotel, Subby refused to wear her badge (ego), Lone Wolf swapped the sighns on the Men's and Women"s bathrooms. Stileto did 10 rounds with jose cuervo, Swift tormented the hotel managers job with a lazer printer, Torp got lucky (I think), Devi stole the Shill banner twice once from thier own hotel room with the security guard present, And the 33rd got a picture of a green mime holding the banner.
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I started right after AW moved onto AOHell. I didn't play much until AW3D, and really got into it on Gamestorm.
Originally posted by slimm50
Anybody seen Fin'E or ssnif?
Ssnif's doing well AFAIK. He's active on BigWeek also.
FWIW, my wife talks to GE's wife on occasion. GE and his wife both moved on to playing Everquest last I knew.
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It is indeed shocking that folks like Mul, Longhorn, and myself have been playing games like AW and AH since before many of the current players were even in grade school.
I wish I had screen shots from the old B&W Mac AW. It'd send you folks screaming into the night. At lowest level of detail it was just vectors for terrain.
Ah, the Regressors ... Never before have so many been shot down by everyone else.
Scorpia (who ran the games forum on GEnie) purely hated my squadron. At one point so many of us were on suspension we renamed the squad to "The Banned."
$1000/mo was not unusual, TC (Tango Circus) would post double that sometimes because he was dialing-in from Canada half the year. And some people logged in during business hours (@ $12/hr) at the end of a campaign to try to get that last bomb run in to win.
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Originally posted by Boozer2
Boozer checking in
Might be sharing a floor at a Con again soon. Not your floor this time though. :)
Heya Booz
Tex
968
5883
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Speaking of old AW days, can amyone give me some updates on some of the people
BlueBaron
Holmes
GrayEagle
Vossman
Ghostrider
Eyeballs
These are the missing, all the others have posted here recently. (wakey wakey)
BlueBaron is working in Austin. Holmes, no idea, I miss his wit and grace though (same for BB). GE is in AZ and playing EQ on the CT server. No word on Vossman (NOT Voss) though we played guitar together last time I saw him at the 1997 AWCon in Houston. No idea on GR or Eyeballs either, though EB had his own (damn, what plane was that he bought?) Aerobatic plane and was working on getting his ticket. Last saw EB in Dallas at SB's AWCon.
Tex
968
5883
ps miss a lot of folks not on your list
Bingo and maque just to name two
found a pic of Eyeballs plane, can't recall how to post attachments here though
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I've used several CPIDs;
Crowwe
+Dizy
+Loot
and now, Delirium.
Generally, I change as soon as I get bored with the one I have. Speaking of which...
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Originally posted by Seeker
Additionaly; while the planes seem to be modeled a bit more accurately in AH (depending on who you believe); the flight model is actually easier than AW FR was. There's a host of new things to get used to, such as torque and trim; but flying on the edge isn't the knife edge experience that AW FR was.
That depends on what part of the reality engine your talking about AW stayed pretty much the same from AWDOS to AWMV except the graphics plane set and some small features like VOX. AW stalls and spins had less of a warning and seemed unrealistic. take offs where a joke just start your engine and throttle up and you where in the air without touching your stick (they tweaked that part a little bit at the end of awIII). I think in just about every way AH is more realistic. More believable stalls and spins, you actually have torque, linked flight surface interaction = one control has slight effect on others such as torque, throt, aralon, rudder, elevators use one and it has a small effect on others AW had no linking at all War birds had/has it but it wasn't that good AH seems to do it the best I think this effect is also called p-factor and no that’s not pucker factor I’m sure some one can explain it better. better hit bubble aw had a pure randomizer on damage you shoot out a guys left engine and his right engine would come die. then again AW was a dated game even AWMV if you strip away the interface and eye candy the game engine has been perty much the same as it was in 1987 when it first came out. that’s a very very old game. AW was good for it's day but it was time to lay it rest. would have been nice if some one had rebuilt the game from the ground up but due to some poor mismanagement (Jetwarrior Vietnam) and bad business decisions (EA) it was pretty much over with for the old gal. So In all honesty I think AH has a harder reality engine then AW did. Thats if you turn off autotake off and the stall limiter. the only thing that was really harder in AW was the onset of a spin and getting out of one seemed a bit harder at times but aw only seemed to have 2 or 3 types of spins. AH seems to have alot more difrent charactoristics to its spins. AW had stall buffetting and controll freaze ups AH only has a stall buzer. Thats perty much the only thing AW has over AH and Warbirds. They both beet AW in just about every other way in reguards to the reality engine.
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There are at least six of the old AW 555th currently flying with the 1st Nasty. HB555 still carries his old AW handle.
Fun times!
:aok
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My memories of AW were usually in the PAC arena and quickly figuring out when my hellcat was going against AB2 and his dang Corsair. Man he lit me up alot with that plane. I was gpel back then.
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whatever happen to skt
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Biggest difference to me:
The Yak can fly with any plane in the game here. (late war U model, not the D we had in AW).
-Sik
Oh, the old YakD in AW could too, you just had to treat it right. Brought home lots of pelts in that one.
Along with the Jug, there wasn't much need for any other planes. ;->
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Originally posted by AWRaid
whatever happen to skt
Ahhh my old bud SKT... the things he could do with just a skillet. He got married or bombed or something. Actually he did get married and when AW was put into the grave he was playing ILII I believe. I sure miss that old scoundrel!
All the best...
Jay
awDoc1
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I guess I'm late to this thread. I played AW since the Genie days with old CGA graphics. I was "RfDog" from C-land. You may remember shooting me down again and again.
I recently reinstalled AW3 on my childrens PC because my daughter is always asking for permission to fly and shoot down planes, but with the language in the MA there is no way I'm letting a 4 year old go online.
Anyway... After the install, I was amazed, I had to ask "did I really play this game all the time?" The pong pong pong flash kerpow red screen kills, the older than dirt graphics, and so on. What really amazed me was how little development $ EA put into the game and yet how devoted the community was to it.
Anyway, my assessment? No comparison, AH is a quantum leap forward. The only thing AW really had going for it was the user community but compared to even contemporary games, the engine and graphics were dragging. The only thing I can think of that I might consider a slight advantage over AH was:
A) The ability to turn off a country's ability to generate Spit 9s
B) The ability to easily get the range to the nearest friendly base
C) Multiple gunners on buffs (I'll still take 3 buffs over multiple gunners however)
I expect to get flamed for the above [bYou r teh wr0ng, AW is the k00lest evar game[/b]), but thats just the way I see it, as time continues its going to be more and more like comparing ATARI 2600 Barnstorming to the latest model of Microsoft Flight Sim.
- SEAGOON
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me
The best macro I heard:
"excuse me I thought you were my ex-wife, A kill has been recorded"
ATC
AW 1996 till it died
Damned Air Group
\/\/ido\/\//\/\akers (The first widowmaker squad)
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Originally posted by Vortex
Oh, the old YakD in AW could too, you just had to treat it right. Brought home lots of pelts in that one.
Along with the Jug, there wasn't much need for any other planes. ;->
Ya, Yaks were fun. It was always fun hitting the YAK ATTAK macro on ch1 after blasting someone with it :) Kinda like rubbing salt into the wound.
Not that I was all that good in it by any means, I think I barely managed to stay over 1:1 in it. Of course, I usually never paid much attention to k/d, since I like to try to get up from vulched fields, augered to grab new planes, and other such fun :)
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Originally posted by Shaky
Ya, Yaks were fun. It was always fun hitting the YAK ATTAK macro on ch1 after blasting someone with it :) Kinda like rubbing salt into the wound.
The AH Yak ain't your grandfather's Yak....it's UBER! :D
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I am trying to see how many people would be interested in coming to Indianapolis, IN during the summer of 2010 for an Air Warrior Pilot Reunion. I hosted the 2000 AW CON and I feel that getting as many ex-AW Pilots together would be a great thing to do.
Mike "Jordi" Bowman - AW DAMNED Squadron
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Survey page
http://airwarrior.wufoo.com/forms/air-warrior-pilot-reunion/
Please fill it out if you think you might be interested in coming.
If I can get enough interest now I can start making real plans for next summer.
Please pass this onto anyone else you know who might be interested in attending.
Thanks for helping out.
Mike "Jordi" Bowman
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wait for it.......
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For those of you who doesn't know, check out www.airwarrioronline.com
Lots of people stop in there by stumbling onto the site or whatever.
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For those of you who doesn't know, check out www.airwarrioronline.com
Lots of people stop in there by stumbling onto the site or whatever.
...and if any of ewe guys still do NNTP, check out news.bigweek.org
(Just a lurker myself).
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MOSS showed up in the MA a week or so ago, not sure if he is gonna stay..he plays IL2-FB
Man this thread digs up some old times.Moss along with TC and others showed me how to get my head out of it when I was just getting started with this online flight sim stuff.That was over 10 years ago!
Ditch I played as Pipz AWII,AWIII...had the same name all these years...I played on Gamestorm FR arena,I was a BZ.I think I remember you I know I remember the squad names.I cant remember where I put my keys down five minutes ago but I can remember this stuff from a decade ago <G> I am sure you will see plenty of people you hung out with back in the day.
Pipz
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there it is
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wait for it.......
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/NecroBumpBatman.jpg)
there it is
LMFAO!!
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I wasn't aware that so many AH players go back to air warrior times, and now I understand why I get owned so much.
I will always be a newb :cry
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Pipz!?
I think I remember seeing your name a LOT back in the AW2 and AW3 days. Do you remember me? (Peabody). I wrote and published a lot of offline missions for AW2 (all in P38s).
BTW: I recently published a movie of my all-time favorite AW3 mission, in which my (then) teenaged son flew with me and we returned, wounded and out of fuel, to land safely with a pocketful of scalps. Find it here:
www.TechVideoReview.com/FlightSimMovies
Click on the "Air Warrior" link. I hope this brings back some good memories
-Peabody-
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What's a P-38?
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Well, Shuffler, a P-38 is what we used to call a "PJ", back when we all used to cavort around in our pajamas.....
-Peabody-
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PB&J <<<<< is that the second version?
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G4MAW
AW in Game Storm
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I actually came here from FA.