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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on July 13, 2004, 04:39:26 PM
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Hey banana...
How about mastering another game? I know you just finished one. I've not played in months and you ran a good game.
Hint hint nudge nudge...
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Sure, why not. But give me until next week to start the game, this week is a busy one for me. In the meantime, how bout you rounding up the potential diplomats and explaining how it works? Fair enough?
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I would love to join another one.....my last foray was a too quick. I stepped in as Austria after someone dropped out and was quickly trounced by pre-arranged alliances. Spent the last 3 months getting emails about a game that I was no longer involved in. That sucked.
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I'll be home until Saturday and them I'm off to Texas for a week. I won't be back and ready to sign on until July 25 or so.
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I'm up for a game starting in late July.
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Email me Sandman....you are going to be here in the Dallas area, right?
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'll be home until Saturday and them I'm off to Texas for a week. I won't be back and ready to sign on until July 25 or so.
Where at Sandy? Be glad to buy you a beer if you are near Ft.Worth or the HTC mothership.
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Late July sounds great to me.
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i would like to try. Be someone needs to explain how to play.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
i would like to try. Be someone needs to explain how to play.
http://www.diplom.org
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Originally posted by sling322
Email me Sandman....you are going to be here in the Dallas area, right?
Originally posted by rpm371
Where at Sandy? Be glad to buy you a beer if you are near Ft.Worth or the HTC mothership.
Hey guys... I'm coming in on Saturday. Will be there until the following Friday.
I'm attending a conference in Grapevine (HTC home town, IIRC).
We should get beer and the charred flesh of some cloven hooved animal.
:)
email me at sandman935@yahoo.com
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Originally posted by SOB
I'm up for a game starting in late July.
Can you be England again? I like it when you're England. ;)
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LOL, screw you, ya big Nazi!
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ok i wanna play!!! sounds like fun.
btw i want germany :)
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Skull, you'll have to register an account with the DPJudge. You'll see the links at the diplomacy site.
Once the players have signed up, the country assignments are done at random.
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Interested and willing to join (finally) :)
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One word of advice I'll give you guys, is to communicate at once with everyone, and remain in contact.
Also, have an ally. People who choose to not make alliances are destined to become former rulers of their country.
One thing to remember about alliances, however. Today's ally can be tomorrow's enemy, and vice-versa. If you don't believe me, just ask King Tarmac of Italy how his alliance went with Sultan banana of Turkey in the last game of Diplomacy. :)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Hey guys... I'm coming in on Saturday. Will be there until the following Friday.
I'm attending a conference in Grapevine (HTC home town, IIRC).
We should get beer and the charred flesh of some cloven hooved animal.
:)
email me at sandman935@yahoo.com
Saturday, eh? I am brewing the fabled Hellfire brew for the con with Natedog that day, but should hopefully be done fairly early.....if I can get him to wake up early and get it started at a decent hour that morning. Planning on taking the girlfriend and her younger siblings to the Rangers game Sunday night, but depending on how early you get in Saturday, maybe we could find a place to get a beer or 3 Saturday evening. Big Buck brewery right there in Grapevine has decent food and they make their own beer so thats a possibility. I am really open almost any night of the week except for Thursday which happens to be bowling night.
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Originally posted by banana
One word of advice I'll give you guys, is to communicate at once with everyone, and remain in contact.
Also, have an ally. People who choose to not make alliances are destined to become former rulers of their country.
One thing to remember about alliances, however. Today's ally can be tomorrow's enemy, and vice-versa. If you don't believe me, just ask King Tarmac of Italy how his alliance went with Sultan banana of Turkey in the last game of Diplomacy. :)
Don't pat yourself too hard on the back Sultan.
I could have taken you out in the first 5 moves of the game. I decided to leave you alone to make the game more interesting. The problem was that the weaker players would not form alliances nor would they agree to gang up on the biggest threats until it was too late.
I tried to get Austria to defend against you and he refused until you and Italy attacked him.
I was after Germany to take out England with me so we could turn our attention on the south of the map. He wanted to be neutral until you had time to get the strength to attack him. I warned Italy about you but no one seemed willing to listen until they were too beaten. I wanted a good game and wanted you to get big and become the big threat and then attack you with some of these other players.
But many rounds I did not even get a reply to repeated emails.
You won but in the process you stabbed everyone in the back. I predict you will not do so well next time.
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Tsar Habu, I beg to differ. You wouldn't have been able to take me out of the game in the first five turns without help from Austria, which you were unable to aquire.
But you're right, the small countries failed to recognize that King Tarmac and I had an alliance going from turn one, and that was what killed them in the long run.
I did not stab everyone in that game. I remained faithful to my last Ally, King S.O.B. of England. I believe I ended up stabbing Russia, Austria, Italy and Germany.
My reputation as an ally is now obviously colored by which experience you had with me in the last game. To S.O.B., I may still be a trustworthy ruler. But to everyone else, I'm a back stabbing snake.
But that's what the game is all about. You have to know when to be a faithful ally, and when to stab your allies in the back when they're the most vulnerable.
I would wager that people have more fun when there is stabbing amonst allies, instead of when it's two allies vs. two allies. That gets tedious, IMO.
Regardless, I'll be mastering this next game, so you won't have to worry about me stabbing you. :)
Just remember, getting stabbed is nothing personal, it's just a necessary part of the game.
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You guys are talking about the game where I stepped in to take over Austria after Airhead or whoever it was quit, right?
I tried to ally with Russia but at the same time was trying to get Turkey to ally with me against Italy or at least have a non agression agreement going until I could get into the flow of the game, but Italy and Turkey both proved to be out to get me from the start. They dealt severe blows to me very quickly and put me in a situation where Russia and I couldnt work together easily. I was too busy trying vainly to protect my homeland to worry about trying to help the Russians defend against the Turks.
I tried to work something out with the Germans at one point but couldnt seem to make any headway there because he has his hands full with the Spanish at the time. I didnt have a good game but its hard to come in like that after the game has started.
My first game was going a little better....too bad we had to end that one when Nash dropped out.
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Yes that is the game.
I told you to attack Italy and I would attack Turkey if he attacked you or me (which he would since he was allied with Tarmac). However you kept wanting him as your ally so you were doomed.
You caught on about 2 moves too late.
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I guess I was too worried about the 2 front war. I was trying to secure an alliance with one of the two ( Turkey or Italy) and it just didnt work out. I had no problems allying with you, but from my perspective I had everything to lose bacause I was in the middle with Turkey and Italy and you on my borders. All you had to deal with was Turkey and the possible English threat from the north. Austria is kinda screwed because they are in the big middle of everyone and if they dont make friends quick they become the battleground that everybody uses to advance their own goals.
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Your conversation is proof of what makes this a great game. All the thinking and "what if's" make for alot of guesswork and having to trust someone.
You both started in bad positions because you were replacing drop-outs. It's very difficult to take over like that and come out on top.
You boys up for joining the next game?
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Habu, you put yourself in a bad position by throwing away the alliance I had with the previous Russian Tsar to share the Norwegian peninsula. In doing so, you gave up a peaceful Northern front for a single supply center in Norway. So you ended up with Turkey steamrolling you from the South, which was lightly defended while you were busy with me throwing everything I could at you in the North.
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Originally posted by sling322
My first game was going a little better....too bad we had to end that one when Nash dropped out.
d'Oh..... that's right.... I had completely forgotten about that. My sincerest apologies. I tried to keep up with the game and my erhm, various other activities. When it all came crashing down I'm not sure I was even aware that there was still a game on. I feel like a doofus.
Sling, you and I were gonna kick Hortlund's arse, no doubt about it, and prolly have sued for peace immediately after. Don't mess (or mess early) with the Jaugernaut!
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Yeah...it was fun while it lasted.
I am up for it banana. I want to try it again and make it through a whole game this time. Count me in!!
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Originally posted by SOB
Habu, you put yourself in a bad position by throwing away the alliance I had with the previous Russian Tsar to share the Norwegian peninsula. In doing so, you gave up a peaceful Northern front for a single supply center in Norway. So you ended up with Turkey steamrolling you from the South, which was lightly defended while you were busy with me throwing everything I could at you in the North.
You have to look at this from my perspective. I did not want a single English supply center on my northern flank. It could attack me at any time. My only alternative was to leave armys up there to prevent this and that would dilute any attack I could have mounted against banana.
I was sincere in saying if you let me have Norway I would have supported you against Italy or anywhere else. I did not stab one guy in the back in that game. I delivered on every promise. And I was honest with you as well. I only attacked you once you attacked me first.
If you had allied with me we could have driven all the guys below us to below the stalemate line and we would have controlled the game. Germany was not supporting any attacks and the real threat was always Italy and Turkey. As it was you survived only because I got tired of trying to get some alliances working and was not getting any replies from Germany or Italy at all. So the game was pointless from Russia's perspective. I decided to let you have the north rather than give banana the satisfaction of eliminating me.
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Actually, we attacked each other in the same turn, after negotiations failed. :) Although I did move my forces in for support when you made it clear you would attack Norway. I told you I would defend Norway to the ruin of England, and that's exactly what I did, dragging you down with me in the process. Thank Allah for Turkey, my savior in that game.
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Nerds!
(wish I could play, but things are way too busy around here. Hopefully next time)