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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Habu on July 14, 2004, 11:18:14 AM
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Just curious who owns or has a share in a real aircraft. Is there an easy way to get pictures hosted so we can post them here?
I started playing fighter ace 6 years ago and it lead me to get lessons and eventually buy a plane.
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habu try http://www.onpoi.net/ah if they are no longer accepting people you can email me the picture and ill host it for ya.
email (rob.featherstone@gmail.com)
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Thanks for the link Furball. They took my account.
Here is a picture of my Cessna 182. It is a classic 1958 182A Skylane. A very clean and original plane. It has a payload of 1000 lbs and holds about 320 lbs of fuel so it is great for taking passengers up in.
It has the original upholstery and panel but has a number of new upgrades such as the radio, some avionics etc.
I just bought it after looking for a plane all year.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/627_1089824643_kjwexterior1.jpg)
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I could never own or share my own aircraft, I'd get bored of it, I like hiring different types of aircraft (although the YAK-52 has to be my favourite;) )
I suppose I own a share in an ground running Avro Vulcan (http://www.avrovulcan.com/) and help maintiain it.
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My question is- Why havent civil aviation aircraft reached the performance of World War II aircraft yet? Were still in the 1930s in performance.
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Ok I don't own it, but there are only 3 people in the club who fly this beauty, so it's as it was mine :)
Pic of me landing.
(http://casal.upc.es/danig27/z50.jpg)
Moravan Zlin Z-50
Daniel
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Habu, nice looking plane. Hope you have many happy flying hours:D
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did the previous owner let you know how much the annual on it costs?
I have no idea how much it would cost, just curious.
I rent mine, dont make nearly enough money to own and maintain one.
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Ok I don't own it, but there are only 3 people in the club who fly this beauty, so it's as it was mine :)
Pic of me landing.
(http://casal.upc.es/danig27/z50.jpg)
Moravan Zlin Z-50
Daniel
Beautiful picture and excellent technique. You are just about to set the tail wheel down slightly ahead of the mains and you are flairing perfectly over the centerline.
A 10 out of 10 landing.
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Originally posted by Dnil
did the previous owner let you know how much the annual on it costs?
I have no idea how much it would cost, just curious.
I rent mine, dont make nearly enough money to own and maintain one.
On a plane like that the annual can be $500 if I find an AME who lets me prep the plane first (open all access hatches etc) or it can be $2500 for a big shop. In addition the engine needs an overhaul every 1500 hours and the prop gets overhauled every 10 years and every 3 overhauls it needs to get rebuilt.
It can get expensive. This plane has had excellent maintanance and I think the previous owner paid for most of the major worries to be corrected.
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One thing i really admire on the USA its probably more affordable as here in the netherlands.
gawd i'm jelous
:)
on overhauls i wouldn't get worried my father is fully certified to repair this type.
(Cessna)
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Originally posted by Habu
Beautiful picture and excellent technique. You are just about to set the tail wheel down slightly ahead of the mains and you are flairing perfectly over the centerline.
A 10 out of 10 landing.
Thanks Habu!
Actually, it's quite easy to make a 3-point landing with this plane. Much, much (much!) easier to land than the Pitts.
I love landing with this plane, but doing it in a Pitts or the Dornier 27 is what really gives you satisfaction :)
Daniel
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BTW Habu, does yours have a Lycoming or Continental?
Daniel
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It has the original engine which is a Continental O-470. It was overhauled 500 hours ago and the compressions are all over 72.
I think it was only in the mid 90's when Cessna started up production again on its light singles that they started using Lycoming engines. I think the same company owns both companies and that is probably behind the switch in engines.
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I also fly an ultralight. This is my first plane. I still keep it as it is much cheaper to fly (and much more fun).
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/627_1089849765_dscn8967.jpg)
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I like the runway lights, very professional I must say! So you guys can fly those things at night? Don’t you have to worry about telephone wires in such a low flying aircraft especially at night?
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Thats a private grass strip and the lights are for arriving home a bit late. They work well but I have never used them as I fly VFR only.
Many of the grass strips around here have lights like that and some are even registered airfields. One is particular has orange highway cones with normal lightbulbs on top and glass covers that look like old food jars. When the lights are on the whole cone glows orange. Very easy to see at night.
I am taking off. I don't normally fly below 1000 agl. The thermals are kind of rough down low and I usually find it smoother above 2 or 3 k agl.
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Anyone else?
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Originally posted by Habu
I also fly an ultralight. This is my first plane. I still keep it as it is much cheaper to fly (and much more fun).
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/627_1089849765_dscn8967.jpg)
AHH! its a giant ALIEN BEE!
You were lucky to survive!
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habu, how much is an ultralight like that?
does it take a long time to get the hang of flying it?
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Originally posted by JB73
habu, how much is an ultralight like that?
does it take a long time to get the hang of flying it?
You can get a very decent trike with a 582 engine for under 20k from airborne in Australia.
My trike is a DTA voyageur which has a 100 hp Rotax 912 s engine and a stainless steel (painted white) chassis and a really good wing. It cost about 45k US. Used trikes can be had for the low teen's.
It took me about 20 hours to finish my license. In the US you don't need a license but I recommend lessons to get at least 15 to 25 hours under your belt. If you fly GA aircraft it actually takes a bit longer at the begining to master the controls. Everything is reversed (push bar to climb) and there is no rudder so you end up pushing on your nose wheel controls to try and straighten it out on landing. Of course that does nothing. Also you push left to turn right on the ground which is reverse for taxiing a plane.
They are the most fun way to fly. They are not toys. I can fly at 10,000 feet agl easily and cruise at 100 kph. I can land in a couple of hundred feet. They out climb and out turn any 3 axis plane. They are cheap to run, mine used 10 liters an hour versus 14 gallons an hour for my Cessna 182. There is no annual required. You can change the oil and filter yourself which is the only real maintainance you need to do over a season. My engine has a 1200 hour TBO.
If you want to know where you can get lessons let me know what part of the country you are in.
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well considering a new car and house are before buying one of those, it gonna be longer than i though LOL.
was hoping maybe 10K US and i could look into financing something like that.
20K is a new car + new plasma TV for me (if i wanted one LOL)
TY for the info.
will just keep buying my $1 lottery each week and dream
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ill make you one for $10k JB :D i'm sure i have some balsa wood and cling film round here somewhere....
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LMAO .. get my email?
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nope! try sending it here (rob_f16@hotmail.com) instead. I will do it tomorrow, bed time now :)
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I fly a cessna 210 and a T337. I don't own them on paper, but sure do in my mind as I'm their only pilot:D
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How close can you fly to the parliment buildings?
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Well I sold it off 2 years ago...this count?
(http://www.checksix.net/mybd5.jpg)
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Until last month I owned a Piper Comanche outright. I also own half of a C172 and that portion is for sale.
Two happiest days in the life of an aircraft owner. The day he / she buys an airplane and the day that it is sold....... Definately true.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
My question is- Why havent civil aviation aircraft reached the performance of World War II aircraft yet? Were still in the 1930s in performance.
Lancair Propjet
Kit starts at 116,000, build it yourself in less than a year.
(http://www.lancair-kits.com/PropJet_images/PropJet_2_lrg.jpg)
Engine: Walter 601E turbine
Horsepower: 750 H.P. @ sea level
Takeoff Distance: 1500 Ft. (gross @ sea level)
Cruise: (typical) 370 Mph @ 26,000'
Rate Of Climb: 3800 Fpm
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Originally posted by SunTracker
My question is- Why havent civil aviation aircraft reached the performance of World War II aircraft yet? Were still in the 1930s in performance.
Liability....Lawyers...etc
I wish the exciting kitbuilt planes were available fully assembled, etc...the Cessnas and Pipers are the same old same old...great trainers and all....but boring (to me)
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Voss, let's see yer pics. (Couldn't resist)
Karaya
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Originally posted by LePaul
I wish the exciting kitbuilt planes were available fully assembled
They are...http://www.lancair.com/ (http://)
Columbia 400. 190 kts cruise, gear down and welded. Certified: ready to fly.
(http://www.pilotjournal.com/content/products/2003/julyaug/opener.jpg)
of course, you gotta pay for someone to assemble it. Kit builders invest sweat.
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Voss must own several by now.
I don't own one but HUM is my regular ride.
Hughes 500
Engine: Allison C20
Max Power: 400 SHP
Max Speed: 130 Knots
Cruise Speed: 115 Knots
Max Weight: 2550 Lbs or 1157 Kgs
Max Fuel: 64 US Gals or 242 Litres
Fuel Consumption: 21 US Gals/Hr or 80 Litres/Hr
...-Gixer
(CPL-H)
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I fly a cessna 210 and a T337. I don't own them on paper, but sure do in my mind as I'm their only pilot:D
Post a pic Frenchy. I want this thread to grow to show all the planes that are flown by guys in here.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Well I sold it off 2 years ago...this count?
(http://www.checksix.net/mybd5.jpg)
Wow a BD-5 fuselage and it looks like you were almost done. Why did you sell it off? Were you going to put a piston engine in it?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Lancair Propjet
Kit starts at 116,000, build it yourself in less than a year.
Engine: Walter 601E turbine
Horsepower: 750 H.P. @ sea level
Takeoff Distance: 1500 Ft. (gross @ sea level)
Cruise: (typical) 370 Mph @ 26,000'
Rate Of Climb: 3800 Fpm
I think the finished price for that plane with the turbine would be well over 350k and probably over 400k. Don't let the cheap price for the fiberglass fool you. Figure 100k for the panel alone if you go deluxe radios, collision avoidance radar, storm scope, glass panel display with GPS full IFR etc.
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Habu, wings were in the next room...it was roughly 80% done, I bought it from a A&P Mechanic who was on the road to divorce if he didnt sell it fast.
I had it for 2 years, did some improvements and mods to it and was saving up to send it to a firm that could complete the major engine installation and other fabrication I didnt have the time or talent to do.
Then I had a 747 pilot look me up, drooled to see the plane in person and when he did, made a fabulous offer that was, well, substancially profitable! So off it went!
The Lancairs are nice...I didnt know some were certified and ready to go. The ones folks posted pics of were minus the engine prices (which are mucho bucks)
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Originally posted by SunTracker
My question is- Why havent civil aviation aircraft reached the performance of World War II aircraft yet? Were still in the 1930s in performance.
Just a question of cost and insurance. Beside if you have enough money you can buy a jet like a Citation jet and fly it on a Private pilot's licence. Plenty of performance there.
(http://flyinginireland.com/register/aircraft/EI-AUC.jpg)
I had a share in that aircraft for a while. A Cessna 150 Aerobat. Someone pranged it since by running out of gas in the circuit. Idiot It had just been repaired after being blown over in a storm. Prior to that a student pilot flew it through the top branches of trees and somehow survived with a flattened leading edge. But it's luck ran out finally. It was part of a club of five aircraft where all the members owned a share of one aircraft but could fly any of them. Great club and a nice aircraft RIP(ieces)
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I owned a Powered Parachute when I was but a young lad and flew that starting at age 12 (dad bought it, but I had to purchase that high priced 83 octane at .99c a gallon back then)
I'm really looking into making the purchase of this work, a Focke Wulf FW-149D. Luftwaffe basic fighter trainer before their transition into jets. This was built in 1960...I think I've got a good chance on making it work out (it will be for sale the minute I have the title...but like all airplanes, I will fly it until I sell it) This is a Squaddie, Pitts1c, standing next to it after an emergency landing on his way to Sun 'N Fun this April. One piston had a hole in it and it caused an oil leak which resulted in none-oil being left. Smoke, the whole bit, engine seized as he made the turnoff. It's got a brand new (300hr) engine on it now.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/621_1089574380_fockewolf.jpg)
I'll either own this or a Pitts S1C within the next few months.
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Hey, what are my options when it comes to buying or sharing my own plane?
Obviously I'm only 21, so it's way out of my league to own my own plane at the moment. What kind of costs does sharing a plane with a club entail?
I'd really like to look into this
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I'm gonna punt this one up to see if more people show up with pics! :)
(http://casal.upc.es/danig27/bimotorecggf_01.jpg)
Pic of the EC-GGF, PA-23 Piper Aztec from the club a friend of mine took while I was renewing my ME rating.
Daniel
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Very nice plane. A little out of my budget to run though.
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You just have to find people who want to go for a ride ;)
For medium to long trips, it's on par with a 172 or 182.
We pay approx $230/hour and it has a cruise speed of 160 KIAS
Daniel