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Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 14, 2004, 01:50:33 PM
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040714.w2kaze0714/BNStory/National/
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: AKIron on July 14, 2004, 01:56:49 PM
Interestin', wonder what Iran wants to hide?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: mora on July 14, 2004, 11:17:31 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Interestin', wonder what Iran wants to hide?


They arrested the woman for photographing and beat her to death.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 14, 2004, 11:26:14 PM
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So they're not co-operating with us."

Mr. Graham recalled Canada's Ambassador to Iran Wednesday in protest.

He said he plans to take the matter to the International Court of Justice.


LOL!

No watermelon they are not going to co-operate! And taking the matter to the ICJ?  LOL!!! Like that will do anything.

Man is and always will be governed by the use of force...nothing will change this basic lesson of history. Words and threats mean nothing .
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Octavius on July 14, 2004, 11:39:23 PM
um, Nuke, so why shouldn't Canada follow the rules already put in place for just such a situation?

I dont think they have the resources (or willingness) to invade Iran... not worth threatening force over one journalist.

Maybe they can decide the outcome via a Hockey game?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Gunslinger on July 14, 2004, 11:44:28 PM
How dare Canada withdraw their embassador?????  Dont they know how important diplomacy is?  Iran is just a poor developing 3rd world country who neeks nukes to provide power for its citizens.  Man the nerve of them.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Yeager on July 14, 2004, 11:44:59 PM
Oh Canada..........
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 14, 2004, 11:48:30 PM
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Originally posted by mora
They arrested the woman for photographing and beat her to death.


yeah, but they are a part of the world community of nations and we have to respect their laws and sovereignty. Who are we to judge them?

We can't expect to force our values on them.

The US is the true criminal here, Im certain.


and it's their right to have nuclear weapons too....they are a resonable, sovereign nation and all :lol  
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Gunslinger on July 14, 2004, 11:51:09 PM
sounds to me like Canada is intollerent of Arab and muslim peoples.....
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Nash on July 14, 2004, 11:57:20 PM
wha? what're you guys on about?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: DJ111 on July 14, 2004, 11:57:58 PM
(http://www.ncaabbs.com/newgraemlins/canada.jpg)
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Nash on July 14, 2004, 11:59:04 PM
Oh I get it!

You are BASHING Canada!

Whaaaaa Oh stop it HURTS! lols
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: RTStuka on July 15, 2004, 12:02:53 AM
Well since our job is finished in Iraq our troops have gotta go somewhere, and since its a short hop I heard Iran is nice this time of  year. :aok
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: AKIron on July 15, 2004, 12:05:18 AM
I'm wondering if the guys defense will be that he was just following orders in beating that woman to death. While it might be acceptable to treat their women in this fashion, the Iranians know that western countries aren't so understanding of the need to keep a woman in her place, especially when that place is six feet under. Or, maybe since Saddam is gone they figure that the burden of mooning the west has fallen to them.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 15, 2004, 12:06:39 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
LOL!

No watermelon they are not going to co-operate! And taking the matter to the ICJ?  LOL!!! Like that will do anything.

Man is and always will be governed by the use of force...nothing will change this basic lesson of history. Words and threats mean nothing .


No they would ignore it just like America routinely does.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 15, 2004, 12:07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Oh I get it!

You are BASHING Canada!

Whaaaaa Oh stop it HURTS! lols


Not me Nash...I have never bashed on a country.

The thing that struck me was the "Im gonna tell the world court" and "they're not co-operating with us" statements.  Made me laugh out loud for real.

Nothing to do with Cananda, everything to do with understanding how the world operates...... and it's not diplomacy or words that are respected, only the credible threat or use of force......otherwise might as well not even bother with the "world court" What's the world court gonna do, right a ticket that will nevr be paid?
Title: Re: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: storch on July 15, 2004, 12:10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040714.w2kaze0714/BNStory/National/


Send in the francofones and some bed linen, it'll only take a coupla seconds.  Here dear, this won't hurt a bit.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Jaxxon on July 15, 2004, 12:19:37 AM
Lest We Forget
Title: Re: Re: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 15, 2004, 12:23:01 AM
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Originally posted by storch
Send in the francofones and some bed linen, it'll only take a coupla seconds.  Here dear, this won't hurt a bit.

Its funny but I dont get it.
That takes some skill..Saying something that is funny even when its over your audiances head..I wonder how funny it would be if I got it? I would probably be on the floor.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 15, 2004, 12:25:09 AM
plus guys. We dont know what they are going to do. They may lob his head off for it.
They are prosecuting him. They just arnt letting us watch.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Thrawn on July 15, 2004, 12:30:58 AM
Dear ****sticks,

Amazing how forgetful you are.  How many countries headed the call after 9/11 and sent thier men and women to fight and die in Afghanistan?  Better men then you, that happen to be Canadian fight along Americans still in the war against terr.  And yet you mock us.  You who have no idea what the story is behind the story.  How have not followed it at all, but make rash stupid comments anyways.  I have been following it for many months now.  And I have watched my government make careful, well though out calulate steps that has lead it to here.  

I imagine that a few of you have a poor understanding of diplomatic parlience.  The Government of Canada has been building a case piece by piece, which I'm sure (or at least) hope will sway the international community.  Which I imagine is a much better plan than say trying to rely on obuscation and bull**** intelligence intrepretations.  Our government has pulled our embassador from Iran.  

This is a message, a signal not just to Iran, but the entire internation community.  Canada does not see any futher benefit through dipolmacy with the government of Iran.  And although some of you think that this is mock worthy, many others I'm sure will not.  

Cause hey, if you can't get along with those appeasing worthless Canadians who can you get along with?  ;)
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 15, 2004, 12:32:00 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
plus guys. We dont know what they are going to do. They may lob his head off for it.
They are prosecuting him. They just arnt letting us watch.


It's a woman.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 15, 2004, 12:33:22 AM
Needless provocation...
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Nash on July 15, 2004, 12:34:59 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
It's a woman.


Chicks are named Mohammed in Iran?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 15, 2004, 12:35:03 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
 The Government of Canada has been building a case piece by piece, which I'm sure (or at least) hope will sway the international community.  Which I imagine is a much better plan than say trying to rely on obuscation and bull**** intelligence intrepretations.  Our government has pulled our embassador from Iran.  



tell me what the "international community" will actually do to enforce anything the world court rules on? It's a complete joke in case you havent noticed.

The ONLY thing that matters in this world is force and the use of force. No words or "international" rulings mean anything.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 15, 2004, 12:58:46 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
It's a woman.


Did you read the post?
A male intelligence agent beat a female canadian of Iranian decent to death.
Shes dead.
Hes on trial.
The canadian consul had been denied access to the trial.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: NUKE on July 15, 2004, 01:08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Did you read the post?
A male intelligence agent beat a female canadian of Iranian decent to death.
Shes dead.
Hes on trial.
The canadian consul had been denied access to the trial.


Why would it matter if Canada had access to the trial?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: lada on July 15, 2004, 03:52:24 AM
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Originally posted by mora
They arrested the woman for photographing and beat her to death.


and later they ate her children, with bread and butter
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: lada on July 15, 2004, 03:56:19 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
wha? what're you guys on about?


they cry for this
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"Justice will not be done behind closed doors in Iran."


coz they still belive that
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 "Justice will be done behind closed doors in Kuba, Quantanamo."




typical... guys here  know absolutly nothing about this thing so they are whinning like a little boy...... rather that post some realted links.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: lada on July 15, 2004, 04:11:31 AM
actulay iran didnt promise to make this trail public, and coz member of inteligence agency is charged, i do not see any reason why this trail should be public

US claim to make transparents trails with soldiers who raped iraqi and they did nothing.....abused iraqi who made it to that trail were not allowed to speak there nor enter the trail.  Max charge for those soldiers were  1 Year.....  viva justice
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: VOR on July 15, 2004, 04:56:21 AM
You guys just can't let an opportunity pass you by.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Yeager on July 15, 2004, 08:05:02 AM
They are prosecuting him. They just arnt letting us watch.
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thats beautiful
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: SirLoin on July 15, 2004, 08:08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Chicks are named Mohammed in Iran?


Everyone is named Mohammed in Iran.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: WilldCrd on July 15, 2004, 08:13:41 AM
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Originally posted by lada
actulay iran didnt promise to make this trail public, and coz member of inteligence agency is charged, i do not see any reason why this trail should be public

US claim to make transparents trails with soldiers who raped iraqi and they did nothing.....abused iraqi who made it to that trail were not allowed to speak there nor enter the trail.  Max charge for those soldiers were  1 Year.....  viva justice


last i heard one of the soldiers was facing 36 or 38 years in prison. Lada ya might wanna check your facts there
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Nash on July 15, 2004, 08:17:26 AM
Just curious Yeager.... Whyssat?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: lada on July 15, 2004, 08:50:48 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Chicks are named Mohammed in Iran?


not Ch but D are ;)
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: JAGED on July 15, 2004, 09:43:14 AM
Newsflash:

Canada pulled out of Iran today...
A frustrated Iran could not be reached for comment...

j/k :D
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Pongo on July 15, 2004, 10:36:09 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Why would it matter if Canada had access to the trial?


I guess its protocall that when a foriegner is killed in your cournty you allow representatives of her country to observe the proceedings. In this case she was killed by an officer of the state in a prison cell. So I guess the silly canadians are worried that justice will not be done. They want to know if the state itself ordered her killed or was it just the usual "bad apple" that seems to often perpetrate these kinds of things.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Goth on July 15, 2004, 10:51:37 AM
Guys, I'm all for bashing a country when they snub the US or directly oppose justice, but bashing for this is just not right.

That woman did not deserve to be beat to death for photojournalism. Canada has every right in my opinion to monitor the farce of a trial that will occur in Iran.

This is all a shame and I sincerely feel for the family of the victim. I hope that Canada will take a tough stance on this issue and do their utmost to punish the injustice of this whole situation.

Like I said, snub us and I will protest loudly, but when it comes down to injustice even a silly redneck like me will stand next to our continental brethren.
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: storch on July 15, 2004, 12:04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Goth
Guys, I'm all for bashing a country when they snub the US or directly oppose justice, but bashing for this is just not right.

That woman did not deserve to be beat to death for photojournalism. Canada has every right in my opinion to monitor the farce of a trial that will occur in Iran.

This is all a shame and I sincerely feel for the family of the victim. I hope that Canada will take a tough stance on this issue and do their utmost to punish the injustice of this whole situation.

Like I said, snub us and I will protest loudly, but when it comes down to injustice even a silly redneck like me will stand next to our continental brethren.


So can I.  Can I pee on their legs if they ain't looking?
Title: Canada withdraws ambassador to Iran
Post by: Goth on July 15, 2004, 01:48:59 PM
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Originally posted by storch
So can I.  Can I pee on there legs if they ain't looking?


But of course! I thought that was a given.