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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wanker on July 15, 2004, 09:35:33 AM
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I'm not going to vote for Bush, but in fairness to him, could someone please point out what is in their opinion some of the good he has done for this country while in the presidency?
Personally, I think his going after the Taliban in Afghanistan was a smart move. And, I think he does love this country and he means well. That's about all I can think of now. How about some others?
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President Bush has ...
liberated two countries,
crushed the Taliban,
crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
dago
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Originally posted by Dago
President Bush has ...
liberated two countries,
crushed the Taliban,
crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
dago
AND thoroughly annoyed every panty waist limp wristed kowtowing to women homoloving money stealing bad breathed inbred liberal (pretty much decribes them all) on the globe. He's my hero!!!
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Originally posted by Dago
President Bush has ...
liberated two countries,
crushed the Taliban,
crippled al-Qaida,
put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
dago
Aside from Dagos points-
I think more than anything else, he has set an example in the Middle East who's fruits may not be realized for a few generations, but will be looked upon as the beginning of a new Middle East.
I believe the tax cuts he made stimulated the economy earlier then it would have recovered on it's own and led to record tax revenues that are just being recorded this month.
Now, since we're being honest, I plan on voting for Bush. Does he have downside? Sure.
Things I disagree with:
I believe we should have stem cell research
I believe a woman should be able to choose.
I believe the government should not Subsidize the NEA.
I'm sure there's more I agree and disagree about but I can't think of them now.
Here's my bottom line:
Is George Bush the best president we've ever had? No.
Is he a better choice in my opinion than the John Kerry? Yes.
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Too many to list. Lets see if banana will read just a few I've posted below:
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=29
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=34
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=35
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=36
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=31
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=16
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=4
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=10
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=7
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=12
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=13
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=14
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=15
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=18
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=20
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=21
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=22
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=23
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=24
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=27
http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=28
(Source= http://www.pagop.org/BushAccomplishments.asp )
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Good list, Muck. I would add that we've not had a single successful terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, due to his leadership to a great extent. While some have decried the Patriot Act, it has been instrumental in this. He has been a big supporter of our military (being retired AF, this is important to me), and pretty consistant in his positions and policies.
Down-sides: I vehemently disagreed with the prescription drug entitlement that has passed; there were better, more targeted ways to handle this issue. I would have liked him to veto it and send it back to Congress for more work. I also believe he could have provided better leadership in keeping Federal spending down over all. Having said that, I do believe Kerry would be worse on all these issues.
Over all, I approve of his handling of the Presidency, and will vote for him this November.
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well he hasn't killed ron jeremy....yet :aok
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I'm pretty pissed a dubya myself. He has taken the one campaign slogan that the conservatives have owned for the last ~30 years and negated it entirely. The conservative branch of American politics has claimed to be for the reduced size/authority/spending/intrusiveness of the federal government. That is ALL GONE under 43's watch.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not voting for Kerry, and the message it would send to the Islamic extremists to vote out Bush and put someone in his place that thinks our war on terrorism is on the wrong track would only encourage them to step up their assaults on western civilization.
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His main accomplishment is that he isn't kerrie and he doesn't pose with finestien or the brady bunch...
oh... and that liberating countries and making the world safe stuff is sotra important too I guess.
lazs
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Originally posted by Sabre
I would add that we've not had a single successful terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, due to his leadership to a great extent.
I wouldn't cite that as an accomplishment just that - there are escalating fears of an attack later this year around election time.
Not to mention, were any terrorist strikes really thwarted - or have there just been no attempts? Oh, and lets not forget the DC "snipers", that was terrorism.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
I wouldn't cite that as an accomplishment just that - there are escalating fears of an attack later this year around election time.
Not to mention, were any terrorist strikes really thwarted - or have there just been no attempts? Oh, and lets not forget the DC "snipers", that was terrorism.
-SW
Attacking Afghanistan and taking the fight to Al Qaeda thwarted alot of plans, I assure you.
Was'nt the former gang member in Chicago part of an Al-Qaeda plot? I cannot remember names here
If anyone thinks for a second Al Qaeda has not tried to hit us again in the past 3 years, you're crazy.
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he also tried to pass legislation that would make a a very wealthy industry (wedding industry) have to operate with half the potential profits...
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I wouldn't cite that as an accomplishment just that - there are escalating fears of an attack later this year around election time.
It's my understanding that many terrorists and terrorist cells have been captured and or put out of business on our own soil.
I would consider that an accomplishment, pretty much something not done by previous administrations.
dago
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he lowered taxes stopping the klinton born recession from slipping into a depression
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Originally posted by Dago
It's my understanding that many terrorists and terrorist cells have been captured and or put out of business on our own soil.
I would consider that an accomplishment, pretty much something not done by previous administrations.
dago
There was a collection of Middle eastern types in a subdivision where we were installing an access control system. One day the feds rolled in, rolled out and the house has been vacant since. Not a word in the press either.
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Originally posted by Dago
It's my understanding that many terrorists and terrorist cells have been captured and or put out of business on our own soil.
I would consider that an accomplishment, pretty much something not done by previous administrations.
dago
...'course he didn't actually do this until after a couple buildings got knocked down, but hey hero worship requires denial.
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Originally posted by storch
There was a collection of Middle eastern types in a subdivision where we were installing an access control system. One day the feds rolled in, rolled out and the house has been vacant since. Not a word in the press either.
And, as we all well know, all Middle Eastern Types just have to be rounded up...kind of scary to have anyone just disappeared like that, IMO.
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he gave me $300 of my own money back.
lazs
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He gave my three businesses enough of a tax break for me to put another fifty-seven people to work. When profits went up again I hired another twenty-three people. If this trend continues another one-hundred people will have jobs over the next four years.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
He gave my three businesses enough of a tax break for me to put another fifty-seven people to work. When profits went up again I hired another twenty-three people. If this trend continues another one-hundred people will have jobs over the next four years.
What business?
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MT
My guess would be boiler room marketing. Getting old ladies to send in their life savings for the next great thing coming to the internet.
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Why am I reminded of that episode of The Simpsons where "Bear Patrol" was put into effect.
Later, a full-force Bear Patrol is on watch. Homer watches proudly.
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
The absence of something doesn't mean something is working, there wasn't any attack on American main land soil by Al Qaeda after the 1993 WTC bombing until 2001.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Why am I reminded of that episode of The Simpsons where "Bear Patrol" was put into effect.
Later, a full-force Bear Patrol is on watch. Homer watches proudly.
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
The absence of something doesn't mean something is working, there wasn't any attack on American main land soil by Al Qaeda after the 1993 WTC bombing until 2001.
-SW
This type of baseless speculation is a waste of time.
No one here knows if AQ tried to hit us and was thwarted, or have simply been planning the next big thing for the past 3 years.
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Exactly my point - someone attempted to attribute the lack of terrorist attacks to the Bush admin... I'm saying there isn't any proof either way.
-SW
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I'm going to agree with Bush's detractors here. The fact that AQ has not yet hit us on American soil is a bad choice to use as a credit to the administration. They WILL hit us, it may be tomorrow it may be another 10 years. I "think" the administration has made it harder on them, and likely foiled at least one attempt or maybe even a dozen, and I definitely beleive they are on the run much more so than they were under Clinton. But it is specious at best to give the prez full credit for their inability to hit us so far.
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Yeah, that one is no acheivement. The others though are good. Of course he has done things from day one that piss me off, like steel tariffs, education bill, immigration, etc, but he is by far our best choice.
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I'm hoping he will give me even more of my money back this time and ignore the fact that I own guns.
That makes him..... not kerrie.
lazs
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Yes, we got it Lazs. As long as it isn't Kerry. But what if... what if Kerry voted on two ways on issues, and was elected on only one side of the issues across the board. Does that make him not Kerry?
-SW
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The conservative branch of American politics has claimed to be for the reduced size/authority/spending/intrusiveness of the federal government. That is ALL GONE under 43's watch.
This is incorrect! Other than the war, Bush has reduced spending each year he has been in office. During the Clinton administration budget increases were in double digits. During "W"'s adminstration, war aside, spending increase has been in the 5-6% range for the first couple of years, going towards a freeze of late.
Important: Govt revenues have gone up dramatically, due largely to the jump start the tax cut gave the economy. Poor Bush bashers, they have no where to go in an honest debate, they are left w/ "Bush lied" and things of that nature. When I asked specifically what he lied about, the line goes dead.
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If I beleived the kerrie that was on my side of the issues then I would be fine with him but... course the guys who believed the kerrie that was on the oppossite side of the issues would feel pretty betrayed but... Why bother? Bush has been at least as straightforward as any I have seen... He only takes one side and sticks to it better than most. He is too liberal for me but better than the other guy who has a chance.
lazs
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Exactly my point - someone attempted to attribute the lack of terrorist attacks to the Bush admin... I'm saying there isn't any proof either way.
-SW
Whoops!~ :)
Al Qaeda's communications network was severely disrupted, he said. Operatives could no longer use satellite phones and had to rely on couriers, although they continued to use Internet chat rooms.
"Before September 11, we could dispatch operatives with the expectation of follow-up contact, but after October 7 [when U.S. bombing started in Afghanistan], that changed 180 degrees. There was no longer a war room ... and operatives had more autonomy."
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040330-120655-9785r.htm
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(http://The government moved on several fronts to counter the threats. The CIA launched "disruption operations" in 20 countries. Tenet met or phoned 20 foreign intelligence officials. Units of the 5th Fleet were redeployed. Embassies went on alert. Cheney called Crown Prince Adbullah of Saudi Arabia to ask for help. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice asked the CIA to brief Attorney General John D. Ashcroft about an "imminent" terrorist attack whose location was unknown.
"The system was blinking red," Tenet told the commission in private testimony, the panel's report noted.
[b]In this context, Bush "had occasionally asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States," the report said. Or as one U.S. senior official more intimately involved in the summer reporting paraphrased the president's question to the CIA: "This guy going to strike here?"[/b]
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4734564/
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Whoops!~ :)
Not so much. There is no timeline for the second of the airliner attacks. Then there is also the question of, were any of his statements truthful? May never know.
-SW
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Originally posted by Steve
During the Clinton administration budget increases were in double digits. During "W"'s adminstration, war aside, spending increase has been in the 5-6% range for the first couple of years, going towards a freeze of late.
But non-war-related spending is still up accross the board. The Clinton administration used to ask for a 20% increase and then get a 15% increase and call it a cut. Its all smoke and mirrors. Spending is up. The authority of the feds versus the states is increased. Wire-taps, and internet spying by the govt is up. Habeas corpus has been suspended. I could go on and on.
Again, don't misunderstand me, I'm voting for Bush because I know Kerry will be worse. I just regret that I have not been able to vote FOR a president and can only vote AGAINST one since 1988.
PS...I have been a registered Libertarian since 1988.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
And, as we all well know, all Middle Eastern Types just have to be rounded up...kind of scary to have anyone just disappeared like that, IMO.
I'll concede that point.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
He gave my three businesses enough of a tax break for me to put another fifty-seven people to work. When profits went up again I hired another twenty-three people. If this trend continues another one-hundred people will have jobs over the next four years.
Mr.Black!!!! welcome back I personally have so missed you!!! Please do tell of these marvelous three businesses. Need any investment money for a fourth?
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Originally posted by MetaTron
He gave my three businesses enough of a tax break for me to put another fifty-seven people to work. When profits went up again I hired another twenty-three people. If this trend continues another one-hundred people will have jobs over the next four years.
You must be a genius. How did you manage to recover so quickly after "divorce and the poverty that you found yourself in as a result"?
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Originally posted by MetaTron
He gave my three businesses enough of a tax break for me to put another fifty-seven people to work. When profits went up again I hired another twenty-three people. If this trend continues another one-hundred people will have jobs over the next four years.
Sell some of those vintage warbirds and give everyone a raise.
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Spending is up
War aside, there is practically a freeze on spending..I just don't know how to be any clearer than that. :)
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Originally posted by Furious
...'course he didn't actually do this until after a couple buildings got knocked down, but hey hero worship requires denial.
And...the extreme measures taken since the buildings were knocked down required extreme circumstances for public tolerance. It's a catch 22 if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Furious
...'course he didn't actually do this until after a couple buildings got knocked down, but hey hero worship requires denial.
you guys are cryin about "lost freedoms" now AFTER the two largest buildings in NYC came crashing down and how many dead? can't image the wailing and hand wringing from the left bush haters if anything would have been enacted without such an attack on our soil....
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Was'nt the former gang member in Chicago part of an Al-Qaeda plot? I cannot remember names here
His name is Padilla. He was labeled as an enemy combatant, and imprisoned without trial or even formal charges against him. The Supreme court probably has some more to say about this case.
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Well, he convinced me to restart my Navy career when he gave that speech at the WTC. No, it wasn't 9/11 that did it, it was listening to his speech that motivated me. Now, almost 3 years later I definitely don't regret my decision.
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course he didn't actually do this until after a couple buildings got knocked down, but hey hero worship requires denial.
I am glad that we agree then that Bush has made some major advances against terrorism.
I bought a book about Clintons achievements against terrorism, all the pages were blank.
dago