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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 68DevilM on July 15, 2004, 01:56:13 PM
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whats the deal here? you guys fricken amaze me with your scores of like 1 (metatron) i know theres a system to lowering your score but how the hell do you guys have like 1 for total deaths??? dont you ever fricken auger
:eek:
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It's not worth it.
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The trick is to sacrifice fun in a compulsive attempt to raise your score, doing nothing but that which will guarentee sucess.
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It also helps to have a second shades account that you can vulch repeatedly without contest
Because of that, score is WORTHLESS. You'd do best to ignore it.
J_A_B
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the only score i look at is Kill to death but i only look at my own i dont care about other people because i dont know if they realy fight or just vulch fly 190d-9s and only get easy kills then run like madd when there is a chance they could get shot down
so i dont realy care about others score
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Originally posted by simshell
the only score i look at is Kill to death but i only look at my own i dont care about other people because i dont know if they realy fight or just vulch fly 190d-9s and only get easy kills then run like madd when there is a chance they could get shot down
so i dont realy care about others score
good point
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Originally posted by simshell
the only score i look at is Kill to death but i only look at my own i dont care about other people because i dont know if they realy fight or just vulch fly 190d-9s and only get easy kills then run like madd when there is a chance they could get shot down
so i dont realy care about others score
or you just can't do it the right way....
too actually go in there and survive....
do you actually think everyone that flies a D-9 will run away?
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Originally posted by SLO
do you actually think everyone that flies a D-9 will run away?
haven't met one that didn't at least try to.
:D
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Originally posted by Shane
haven't met one that didn't at least try to.
:D
how many times have i fought you in my d .. always fought it out. you know that.
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There is nothing wrong w/ trying to never die. Maybe Metatron enjoys trying to reach certain goals and thus he derives his pleasure from the game this way. I've fought him once or twice and yes, once I negated his rather high alt advantage, he ran. I would have liked him to stick around long enough to expire, and I probably tried to taunt him into fighting but it's his $14.95.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104840&highlight=high+rank
Thanks to Rod367th
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How to get a high rank
Since we had a 2 hour chat on channel one about rank. Thought I would give tips to all.
1. You must do 1 pt boat rocket attack. spawn to a port or gv base get near base fire 1 rocket it hits don't shoot again you get 100% hit rate in gv bomb %.
2. Use ju87 on strats drop on biggest cluster of targets. Zig zag out of ack ( ack has harder time if you evade it) Do a hot pad go back repeat this over and over till strat dead.
3. Drive a gv to a strat base ( i use panzer flaks lose turret to fast) use he kill buildings 2 shots or less takes out targets. after HE gone. Use your pintle guns to kill buildings this will increase your gv hit % don't for get to use turret machine gun. if no buildings left shoot rubble of a building hit % still counts.
4. Learn high alt bombing live live live hitting strats. 30 k bombing is same as 10k its easy. use 1000's 3 bombs 1 direction then 3 coming back this will give you a hit % for bomber of over 1000. Now if using bombers to hit nearby strat retund to base land bombers rearm lead bomber go back hit strat again. this improves your damage per sortie as rearm doesn't count as a sortie.
5. you must do at least 5 goon s in tod
6 same 5 for m3 secret here taking gv base and your safe use pintle gun to hit fuel increase hit %
7. to be real score ho kill ack at strat land plane at strat taxi to building shoot entire p47 ot p38 load into a building dead or up. this increases your attack hit % seen Guy hitting his own hangers like this before bug fixed. now it must be enemy target.
8. best way I find to get fast kills is to wait over a fully up strat. someone will be along shortly
9. once you get a good k/d in fighter do the rest of your sorties in attack mode.
now keeping your rank don't try to shoot a gv with plane you hit % goes to crap and flaks will eat you and k/d goes in the drink.
Don't UP A VULCHED BASE. be a vulcher not a vulch.
lastly going for a high rank is not the way to have fun. If your in this for fun then going for rank will make you hate game..............
again if you need to learn to bomb in bomber it takes me 5 mins to make you expert. JUST ask
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Originally posted by SLO
or you just can't do it the right way....
too actually go in there and survive....
do you actually think everyone that flies a D-9 will run away?
i always go in and just try to survive but sometimes i kill myself for the benifit of the mission, ie. hey we need a goon. and i never expect anyone to run away, that just happens, hell i'll run if the other guys on my six, how the hell else am i suppose to turn on him unless i have advantage in turning, i use the benifit of my type planes at the time to try to survive and that includes out running him:cool:
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Rod is a dweeb-queen.
68Dude, I up from bases under attack where there is a fast way into a fight, and kill everyone I can. Then land it (that's the secret). These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
In fighter mode, this tour, I haven't been above 8k in alt. I prefer 5k max, but sometimes you have to go higher to get buffs. Buffs are the gravy!
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Rod is a dweeb-queen.
68Dude, I up from bases under attack where there is a fast way into a fight, and kill everyone I can. Then land it (that's the secret). These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
In fighter mode, this tour, I haven't been above 8k in alt. I prefer 5k max, but sometimes you have to go higher to get buffs. Buffs are the gravy!
There Goes Voss again Mr know it all:rofl :rofl :rofl
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These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
In fighter mode, this tour, I haven't been above 8k in alt. I prefer 5k max, but sometimes you have to go higher to get buffs. Buffs are the gravy!
I so believe you.
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I'm sure as long as you don't let your shades account fly above 5K that would be believeable.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Rod is a dweeb-queen.
68Dude, I up from bases under attack where there is a fast way into a fight, and kill everyone I can. Then land it (that's the secret). These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
In fighter mode, this tour, I haven't been above 8k in alt. I prefer 5k max, but sometimes you have to go higher to get buffs. Buffs are the gravy!
Gee, thats funny, I've been playin 4+ years and have Never been killed by my own ack.
sounds like anouther "Vossism" to me
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Originally posted by simshell
the only score i look at is Kill to death but i only look at my own i dont care about other people because i dont know if they realy fight or just vulch fly 190d-9s and only get easy kills then run like madd when there is a chance they could get shot down
so i dont realy care about others score
As long as I kill more rooks and bish more often then they kill me. im a happy man.
I look at my rank only as a source of amusement really and dont take them too seriously as they really do not tell much of anything as there are all sorts of vaiables as to why someone rank is what it is.
For example if your a truely outstanding pilot but you couldnt care less about landing your kills but would rather be a a fly till ya die type your rank probably isnt going to be as high as a lesser pilot who only takes the safe route and only fights when he has total advantage
Formyself I figger if Im ranked lower then say 600-700 Im doing ok ad rank wise probably puts mesomewhere near or in the top 3rd which iin my opinion aint to shabby for the way I like to fly.
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Originally posted by Flit
Gee, thats funny, I've been playin 4+ years and have Never been killed by my own ack.
sounds like anouther "Vossism" to me
Me Neither. But we're in the same squad so we must be special :D
BTW IF I go into the game tonight and Minindoodoo is up Im gonna puke in your cockpit So whatch where you sit.
Just thought I'd warn ya :lol
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Well, sounds to me like you dweebs don't defend much. Try launching from your CV when there's low cons around. The CV ack will tear you a new chithole.
Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Well, sounds to me like you dweebs don't defend much. Try launching from your CV when there's low cons around. The CV ack will tear you a new chithole.
Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
Been there done that. CV ack never kilt me either
Perhaps its some kind of conspiracy against you.
Wouldnt surprise me based on the content of your last message
And considering neither Flit nor myself levied any kind of an attack on you but rather mentioned our experiances of never having been killed by our own ack
Its quite obvious your not "thinking" at all
You started this. not us.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Well, sounds to me like you dweebs don't defend much. Try launching from your CV when there's low cons around. The CV ack will tear you a new chithole.
Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
You have to keep better track of which account you are flying at the time. Sounds like your'e bringing your shades/vulchee account too close to the fields
You seem to have the same problem with BBS and usenet accounts as well. I can imagine keeping track of all those personalities could be a problem. Perhaps you could have separate rooms for them in your house to help remember which one you are at the time. You could be Meta in the red room , Oneman in the green room , Voss in the rubber room, - something like that.
Just a suggestion
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That's what I want, a good score.
I want to know the system. I want to have a GREAT score any way I can.
That's why I pay my monthly contribution, update my toybox, stay current with configurations and settings.
I don't want to become proficient with anything other than the in's and out's of having a good score.
Because THAT'S where it's at.
All the rest is so much pap for the fools.
You are all fools..
How was that ??
I was "in" charactor. I have a photo resume with a list of parts played available on request..
Email me.
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Originally posted by Redd
You have to keep better track of which account you are flying at the time. Sounds like your'e bringing your shades/vulchee account too close to the fields
You seem to have the same problem with BBS and usenet accounts as well. I can imagine keeping track of all those personalities could be a problem. Perhaps you could have separate rooms for them in your house to help remember which one you are at the time. You could be Meta in the red room , Oneman in the green room , Voss in the rubber room, - something like that.
Just a suggestion
For example it could prevent this type of thing happening.
From: John \"OneMan\" Birkes (oneman@nwark.com)
Subject: Re: Screensaver creator
View: Complete Thread (5 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.rendering.raytr acing
Date: 1997/07/28
Check http://www.freeware.com for screen saver programs. Nearly on a weekly
basis I see new programs cycle through. Usually, they offer the ability to
test drive before you buy. Also, usually, they have annoying messages added
within your animation. It is a good way to make you sure you are
comfortable with the particular system, though.
Good luck,
Paul Hinds
Darcy Johnston <93johnst@scar.utoronto.ca> wrote in article
...
: Does anyone know of a program that I could use to create screensaver
: files? I want to take an animation I made with povray and turn it into a
: screensaver file. I don't just want to be able to use as a screensaver,
: but actually save it as a .scr file.
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: Is there a program that allows you to do that, and if so, where can I find
: it?
:
: Thanks,
: Darcy
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Originally posted by Redd
You have to keep better track of which account you are flying at the time. Sounds like your'e bringing your shades/vulchee account too close to the fields
You seem to have the same problem with BBS and usenet accounts as well. I can imagine keeping track of all those personalities could be a problem. Perhaps you could have separate rooms for them in your house to help remember which one you are at the time. You could be Meta in the red room , Oneman in the green room , Voss in the rubber room, - something like that.
Just a suggestion
and this
From: John \"OneMan\" Birkes (oneman@nwark.com)
Subject: Re: How to reduce rcoket damage in LAN quake
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Date: 1997/07/31
sv_maxvelocity?
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Zenin wrote in article <5rbelq$7i4$8@nntp2.ba.best.com>...
: Jeffrey C. Gilkey wrote:
: > If you know how to slow them down, I want to know that too.
: >snip<
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: Hehe, I've always wanted to speed them up myself. :)
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: Quake Clan After Shock (Did you feel that?)
: The Bawdy Cast - Rocky Horror Picture Show (San Jose, CA)
: Zenin's Rocky Archive (http://www.best.com/~zenin/)
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Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
And you're still full of it.
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Played for score one Tour just for the heck of it. It really sucked, as in 'no fun'. Boring as all getout. That was before Rod's post or I could've done a little better.
I'm an average pilot and ranked 15th, I think it was. The ONLY guys ranked that high are gaming the game. They play for score and that's it.
Never done it since and I can tell you for a fact -- rank don't mean Jack!
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Quote:
"Never done it since and I can tell you for a fact -- rank don't mean Jack!"
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Sorry, I must differ with this point.
Ranks allows you to control the CVs.
Regards,
Sun
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If it's attention you want...
Upping "crappy" planes and landing kills will yield more insta-attention than any rank will ever do.
Try me.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
I up from bases under attack where there is a fast way into a fight, and kill everyone I can. Then land it (that's the secret). These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack
Im starting to believe the comments about that one :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Quote:
"Never done it since and I can tell you for a fact -- rank don't mean Jack!"
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Sorry, I must differ with this point.
Ranks allows you to control the CVs.
Regards,
Sun
Like I said it don't mean Jack.
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Quote:
"Never done it since and I can tell you for a fact -- rank don't mean Jack!"
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Sorry, I must differ with this point.
Ranks allows you to control the CVs.
Regards,
Sun
LOL your right about that.
they definately need a better system for controling of CV's as alot of these high rankers havent a clue as to how to properly deploy them and tend to send them to the position most likely to get them sunk. Like right between two or more enemy bases.
Orrr they insist on moving them to where they are needed least when there is a place where they are desperately needed most.
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Although I can appreciate the effort some guys show in staying alive in games, I will never have the interest to do it for long. I start a campaign with the intent, but around the 3rd death,or 5th day of the camp(whichever comes first) I go back to my old ways.
Im willing to bet most of the guys who do this as a regular way of playing, are accountants or something like that where the tidious is the norm. Not an insult, just an opinion..some guys are just wired different.
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Your ability to take a cv should be decided on your past history of CV command. If you cv command history is take a cv and it dies in 5 mins that weights your command as bad. If you take a cv and survive over time that weights you command as good.
Someone with a higher command rank gets to take over.
As for score. It's a joke, I used to think you could rely on it somewhat, but it is too easy to game and does not reflect those that take risks (i.e. upping from a capped base) into consideration. There should be a risk and time alive factor as well as outnumbered factor. If someone ups in a high risk environment (i.e. capped field) stays alive a while and shoots a few weenies down they should be scored appropriately. If someone is flying against the horde that should be scored appropriately. If someone is always flying where they constantly have numerical supremacy this should score less for them.
Until things like this are considered score means nothing.
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Well, sounds to me like you dweebs don't defend much. Try launching from your CV when there's low cons around. The CV ack will tear you a new chithole.
Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
Thats funny, I have never been able to kill anyone on the same team w/ cv ack either
Sounds like Red was right, you must be talking about one of your shade accounts.
BTW, how's the brain tumor ?
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By briefly looking at metatrons score tally..
One thing you should notice...
P51, That pretty much sums it up.. The p51 is best plane in the game for score whoring... How do I know, Ive flown it... extensively: fuel (most overlooked) SA and speed are a lethal combination.. (its carries bombs pretty good too.. high speed climb anyone..)
Also note the seal clubbing of the knits..
Note 1/4 of his kills are rooks.. He avoids us as he should.... (we got more aces)
The knits have been having numbers problems (not this week but in the recent past) in my opinion; so who does he club.. make your own deductions..
Be advised of the high degree of b17 kills; either all those 17 pilots are incompetent or something is wrong..
One bullet to his radiator and he's thru... his K/D vs the 17 is 38 to zero.. what gives.. IMO the b17 is most dangerous bomber.. either he blowing em up on the ground or again something is wrong..
Just my brief observations...
There is a art to this... shade accounts are far more effective than any skillset.. Voss/Metatron is shady to begin with. 2 + 2 = 4
DoctorYo
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Note 1/4 of his kills are rooks.. He avoids us as he should.... (we got more aces)
DoctorYo
snicker... 274-79 vs rook "aces"
but then, i'm not metavoss.
:D
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Be advised of the high degree of b17 kills; either all those 17 pilots are incompetent or something is wrong..
I've seen his B17 killing training video's he posted on squad forum, that score is not fake, i can assure you.
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
One bullet to his radiator and he's thru... his K/D vs the 17 is 38 to zero.. what gives.. IMO the b17 is most dangerous bomber.. either he blowing em up on the ground or again something is wrong..
im too lazy and at work to look up the stats, but i carried a 30+ to 3 k/d vs b17's alone for like 6 months, 1 month peaking at killing like 48 and dying only 3-4 times.
i guess im now voss
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Well, sounds to me like you dweebs don't defend much. Try launching from your CV when there's low cons around. The CV ack will tear you a new chithole.
Oh, wait, your whole lives have been spent retaining watermelon in your heads! What am I thinking?
yeah met that sounds fishy to me too, might want to try and get film of that and sent it to ht
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Lets face it if someone is patient enough to do everything carefully and not take any risks, fly in the safest places etc these numbers are achievable. My hat is off to people who can do that. Personally I don't have the patience for this type of game. I like to push the edge and take risks. The current scoring system goes against this kind of mentality.
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The trick is to get some dude like myself to get an enemy con hung up in the air and just before you loop over and light the poor guy up, some guy with a low score comes along and gets the kill :D
That's how you get a low score :)
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Originally posted by MetaTron
Rod is a dweeb-queen.
68Dude, I up from bases under attack where there is a fast way into a fight, and kill everyone I can. Then land it (that's the secret). These fights have been few and far between lately. Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
In fighter mode, this tour, I haven't been above 8k in alt. I prefer 5k max, but sometimes you have to go higher to get buffs. Buffs are the gravy!
Not saying anything derogatory...But , I believe when you and I started to tangle the other day...you were at 15 to 20k...now you may have been in "attack" mode , but you were definatly above 8k. Nice fight BTW:)
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whats a score?
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Be boring
either with shades or alt monkey or flying around looking for the perfect kill.
Although some of the well scoring guys are terrors, many are not.
Don't even worry about score, it's fluff. Play hard, die often!
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Originally posted by DoctorYO
Note 1/4 of his kills are rooks.. He avoids us as he should.... (we got more aces)
DoctorYo
That should be (we got more asses) :lol
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I use score just as a measure of how I am doing compared to last tour in general. I usually carry high 30's or low 40's...all legit and hard earned.
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Usually I die to my own ack (IF I die) chasing a dweeb that wants to run in and hit a target first, because he knows he is going to die, and die fast. Yes, your own ack is more deadly to you, than it is to him.
Hmmm, perhaps the ack is actually shooting at YOU. Wouldn't surprise me if somehow it was... :lol
Rank sucks, but "clueless dolts" suck more. :aok
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hmm 39 posts and yet shane does not respond to the disputal of his original post.
why does that not suprise me.. shane backing down from a challenge to what he stated? kinda like michale moore, what shane says is fact.... end all be all ..... huh?
like i said no suprise. what a wuss. cant fess up when confronted with stating something incorrect so much like the MA,
whoops thats something called the ignore list i just clicked on
bye
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oh, i'm sorry. forgive me for my oversight, it's not so easy to tell FW's apart. they either explode or run away, can't get a close look at the new skins. And I can't be bothered to remember what's skinned as who.
:D
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Originally posted by mars01
Lets face it if someone is patient enough to do everything carefully and not take any risks, fly in the safest places etc these numbers are achievable. My hat is off to people who can do that. Personally I don't have the patience for this type of game. I like to push the edge and take risks. The current scoring system goes against this kind of mentality.
I originally flew for rank after Rude set me that tast back in 13th TAS days.
As for flying patiently, well, there's no need to. As long as your killing/hitting stuff you can die pretty much as often as you like as long as you kill more. Furballs are great for Fighter rank. Attack rank, well, must have something to do with actually being accurate at what you bomb or hit with cannons - i.e. VHs/GVs/Towns. Bombers are being used more for the huge towns or taking FHs down.
I believe some people think that flying carefully without taking risks is the way to achieve rank. It sure can be but it's what you make it. I've ended up being shot down several times experimenting with using rockets on fleets, afterall, it's the only way to learn. If a base is totally capped, no I won't up, perhaps a GV, but if a horde is inbound then I'll up something fast.
Only two things that catapult your rank high - base capture and PT Boat hitting something, rest of it should come naturally without the need for milkrunning.
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Rank is a strange thing that can - like explained earlier in this thread - be improved without improving your skills. (PT-boat attacks etc)
The two main things that I think is wrong with the ranking system, is that the more you play the better your rank gets. This is because of the "points" rank which is not affected by deaths, sorties, or time.
The second is that what kind of plane you are flying have no effects on rank - only on perk points. Everything else equal, it is easier to get 5 kills in a spitIX, than in a C202. So if you like to fly the "underdog" planes, your rank will be worse than if you fly "good" planes.
That said I still think that ranking is fairly good to show how good a pilot you are. At least if talking about fighter rank. The good pilots tends to have a good ranking.
Regards
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disputal?
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Originally posted by LLv34 Teufel
That said I still think that ranking is fairly good to show how good a pilot you are. At least if talking about fighter rank. The good pilots tends to have a good ranking.
Wrong.
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Yesterday I upped from A30 when it was under attack from both bish and rooks and isolated. Landed 3 or 4 sorties and a fair number of kills in a 109G-10, it was chaos and bandits in the air and GVs on the ground some of the most fun I've had in this game yet. The hard part when you fly alone (no wingman/squad) under such circumstances is to keep watching your six and maintain a high enough SA to spot attackers while still focusing on your target and maneuver to shoot him down.
Anyway, I play and fly for the kill, as simple as that, and the only stats I look at are fighter rank, kill/death ratio, # of kills and hit %. That's all I'm in in for. I love upping from a defending base in a 109 to take on the fighters, people tend to get sloppy when they think they have the upper hand, or they are just trying to bomb the base out and care less about being shot down.
As for the 190, if you don't run from a fight that you know you'd loose you're stupid imo. The only plane I fear when flying the 190 is the P51, it's faster, turns better and the only disadvantage it has really is climb rate, but that's rarely a factor.
Running from a 51 though is almost sure death for a 190 because he will catch you and he can turn better as well. So my advice to 190 pilots is fight the 51s and wait for his mistake, still he could run from you but hey that's a victory too. :)
=S=
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Originally posted by LLv34 Teufel
That said I still think that ranking is fairly good to show how good a pilot you are. At least if talking about fighter rank. The good pilots tends to have a good ranking.
I disagree. Fighter Rank is scored mainly by how many kills you get per hour, hit percentage and damage. Death isn't a real issue. Someone who HOs everything in sight could have a high fighter rank but I wouldn't call them skillful.
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True Nexx not to mention I'd be willing to put Levi / Drex or a few others up against any of the top ten. They are all ranked low but some of us (not that I'm in their catagory) play for fun and the fight, not score. It's simply two completely different things.
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Originally posted by Replicant
I disagree. Fighter Rank is scored mainly by how many kills you get per hour, hit percentage and damage. Death isn't a real issue. Someone who HOs everything in sight could have a high fighter rank but I wouldn't call them skillful.
I agree. It is very possible to get a good rank even though you are not a good pilot. But like I said I still think that the good pilots tend to have a good ranking - at least they do in my squad. Mind that this does not mean that if you have a good ranking you are a good pilot. It does not go both ways.
*The good pilots tend to have a good ranking.
*The high ranking pilots tend to have any kind of skill (from bad to good)
Regards
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after i created this post i realized that i may have given the impresion that all i care about is a perfect score, it's not.
i hover around the 300's,400's and by the end of the month sometimes 500's for my overall score and im content with these, it just amazes me when im in a dogfight with a good pilot and you know when he's good! and either you get him or he gets you ill check his score to learn more about him and ill see a 1 for overall and if i got him it makes me feel like i shot down an ace or if he got me i feel like i went up against the best and died ohh well right, i need to get better!
but then again there is always ways to get your score down to 1 and not be any better that the rest of us right? so there goes my theory
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Originally posted by LLv34 Teufel
I agree. It is very possible to get a good rank even though you are not a good pilot. But like I said I still think that the good pilots tend to have a good ranking - at least they do in my squad. Mind that this does not mean that if you have a good ranking you are a good pilot. It does not go both ways.
*The good pilots tend to have a good ranking.
*The high ranking pilots tend to have any kind of skill (from bad to good)
Regards
LOL... Maybe it's a language thing but that makes absolutely no sense to me. :lol
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Ah Hell,
Im ranked 4th and I SUCK! So what......................... .......
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i hover around the 300's,400's and by the end of the month sometimes 500's for my overall score and im content with these, it just amazes me when im in a dogfight with a good pilot and you know when he's good! and either you get him or he gets you ill check his score to learn more about him and ill see a 1 for overall and if i got him it makes me feel like i shot down an ace or if he got me i feel like i went up against the best and died ohh well right, i need to get better!
Overall rank means nothing when it comes to skills in a fighter.
The only things I am concerned with when looking at a players rank is, well, nothing at all. Its pretty cute when I hear someone congratulate another player on being ranked #.... It makes others around, New players, think thats all that really matters in the game, rather than being a better stick in a fighter.
If these people think rank will get them through a fight, be it 1v1 1v2 1v3 ect, they are greatly mistaken.
Its been said 1000 and 1 times before in the past, but I will say it again.
If you look at some of the best sticks in the game, their over all rank sucks. And sometimes even their fighter rank sucks along with everything else. But if you meet them in the air, they will ruin your pereption of just how important/good a top ranked player is.
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I'm sick of this rank crap. If the best sticks in the game decided to go for rank every camp they'd run away w/ the whole thing and it wouldn't even be funny. Some of the best decide to do it from time to time, but my experience is that the best sticks enjoy the challenge of fighting the hard fight against superior odds winging w/ their buddies and slinging it out to the end to try to have as much fun and make as much a difference in the air as they can. When you hang it out on the line like that, it's hard to get a GREAT rank (noticed I said great, cause through their skill they'll still have a decent one) cause yer most likely gonna get popped a couple more times than you would like and you're not gonna build up the uber-stats some achieve. Sure, they could buzz around the back of the furball and cherrypick 10+ kills quickly every sortie, but the majority do not. What challenge, or what fun, would that be? If that's yer idea of fun, or "skill," then maybe I just don't get it...
:D
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We had a long thread on this. The point I was getting at in that thread was inline with what Stangs initial comments. The rank system only accounts for players that are trying for rank, or do all the things needed for a good rank. If the most skilled players always tried for a good rank, they would easlily rise to the top.
The difference between the mediocre pilot with a low rank and the hot stick with the high rank, is the mediocre pilot is playing Aces High as defined by scoring, and the hot stick is not.
Originally posted by hitech
This discusion is like 2 guys golfing. 1 guy wins (hence better at golf) the other argues that he is realy better because he can hit the longest drive.
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The system would still accuratly provide a measure of golf skill. But your players are no longer playing golf they are now playing a different game. And since your players are not interested in their golf score, they wouldn't even keep track.
So are you interested in playing golf, or do you just want to head to the driving range. Both are perfectly acceptible, but don't try tell the golfers they should forget about it and just go to the driving range instead, because in your view distance is the only TRUE method for messuring a golfers talents.
And since when did playing the game as designed become "gaming the game"?
HiTech
As far as accumulating points=good rank, look again. Point accumulation is only 1/5th of your score. "Death isnt a real issue"? Lets see kills per death thats 1/5th. Kills per sortie, if you die before you get many kills thats another 1/5th. Kills per time, if you die alot you have to be spending more time in transit, thats another 1/5th. Points, with the death multiplier you only get 25% points for killed, crashed, or discoed, another 1/5th. That makes 4/5th of your score affected by deaths.
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Just do away with it already:D
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Overall rank means nothing when it comes to skills in a fighter.
ahh but fighter stats change if you get bored with allways being in the air
;) :p
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Originally posted by LLv34 Teufel
*The good pilots tend to have a good ranking.
*The high ranking pilots tend to have any kind of skill (from bad to good)
Originally posted by DipStick
LOL... Maybe it's a language thing but that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Well, it is kind of like swans in Denmark: they are all white, but that does not mean that all white birds are swans.
(Swans representing good pilots and "White" representing high ranking)
Hope this clears things out
Regards
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lol voss still making friends
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